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I hate to do this, but I am looking for a stock style rom for the N4 with the following
root
deodex
Facebook contacts Sync
Enhanced Quick Settings
Enhanced Power Menu
Patched Google Wallet (to allow root)
t9 dialer
I'm happy putting this together myself, but to speed things along does anyone have links/suggestions on where to get the above features or a ROM with all the above?
I get my N4 today if shipping works well from TNT so hope to have this flashed tonight and have loads on at work so this is why I am posting a Q&A for help locating this
All very good Features i would like to see in a "Stock"-Android ROM. :good:
the wallet apk is floating around here somewheres. there is also an unsupported gapps with it.
t9 dialer. i just noticed one with it the other day. i thing it was xylon or codefirex.
i dont do facebook. but everything else you mentioned should be in just about any rom. cm10.1 seems to be the one rom around here that is closets to stock.
phermey said:
the wallet apk is floating around here somewheres. there is also an unsupported gapps with it.
t9 dialer. i just noticed one with it the other day. i thing it was xylon or codefirex.
i dont do facebook. but everything else you mentioned should be in just about any rom. cm10.1 seems to be the one rom around here that is closets to stock.
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I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
Lothaen said:
I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
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could be. i havent looked at that rom.
Rascarlo is another very minimal rom
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Lothaen said:
I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
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zephiK said:
Rascarlo is another very minimal rom
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i started thinking... what makes a minimal rom? i have never used a rom that was considered 'minimal' so questions are coming up. as more and more time goes by would the rom not get further and further away from stock? or do they stop adding features and only update as code for what they have is further optimized? i guess what im saying is you could always try to hunt down a rom that started with all of the features you are looking for. then flash an early build of that before they loaded it down with stuff you dont want.
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i started thinking... what makes a minimal rom? i have never used a rom that was considered 'minimal' so questions are coming up. as more and more time goes by would the rom not get further and further away from stock? or do they stop adding features and only update as code for what they have is further optimized? i guess what im saying is you could always try to hunt down a rom that started with all of the features you are looking for. then flash an early build of that before they loaded it down with stuff you dont want.
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That's a good question. Never thought it about that way. I guess it's rom that stays relatively close to stock without pushing out all these features coming out of aokp and cm. Just the minimal additional features that the ROM creator feels necessary.
I personally don't see a reason for these roms and why some people must stick to stockish custom roms. Nowadays all roms are fast that you can barely tell the difference. The difference comes from the kernel in my opinion.
I just don't want to use a rom that barely gets updated because I'm addicted to flashing stuff and without garbage code wasting space on my phone with unnecessary apps like performance control when I already have a app to use for controlling the cpu frequency etc. Things like that.
I guess my definition of minimal is very little tweaks just enough to tease our temptations without being too disappointed. It's defined differently by all
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I'm looking for a rom that I only need to think about flashing every few months really - want something ultra stable (so stock like as that should be the most stable rom )
just wanted a few nicer features thrown in without all the clutter of CM/AKOP
Paranoid android is closer to stock than CM/AOKP if you ignore the tablet settings. It's more about having a beautiful UI and near stock interface.
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Paranoid android is closer to stock than CM/AOKP if you ignore the tablet settings. It's more about having a beautiful UI and near stock interface.
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lol what are you talking about. all ROMs for N4 look like a stock interface, they're all built upon the Holo theme introduced in ICS.
the whole Paranoid Android is all about changing DPI and integrating the status bar on the bottom with the nav bars instead of having a status bar up on top.
I'm looking for a rom that I only need to think about flashing every few months really - want something ultra stable (so stock like as that should be the most stable rom )
just wanted a few nicer features thrown in without all the clutter of CM/AKOP
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That's not a definition of a "minimal" ROM then. You're looking for a stable ROM. At this date, I feel that every ROM is stable and it's practically up to you on what kind of additional features you want with your phone. That's all it really comes down to.
New ROM versions come out because they want to put out newer features (yes they are stable). No one forces you to update them, you can flash it once and leave it. When you want to, you can dirty flash up upon it.
If you don't want to update your ROM then why did you flash custom ROMs in the first place?
According to your OP Post,
root
deodex
Facebook contacts Sync
Enhanced Quick Settings
Enhanced Power Menu
Patched Google Wallet (to allow root)
t9 dialer
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Root: All ROMs have it
Deodex: All ROMs come deodexed
Enhanced Quick Settings: most ROMs has this. some ROMs use tiles only. CM10.1 has both
Enhanced Power Menu: most ROMs have this.
Google Wallet: no such thing as patched google wallet. google wallet from the play store works fine with root.
t9 dialer: most roms have this again.
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it all comes down to YOU as an individual going to the forum and looking at your options. they're all fantastic choices and all stable roms. read the last couple of pages for feedback. its not that hard man. its like you asking the question, "what is the most minimal house" you want something stable... each rom has its own uniqueness, its up to you to decide what you want.
with my biasm, id go towards cyanogenmod10.1 + franco kernel for the cleanest code and has everything i want.
Try out maddogin's stock ROM, he built it from stock ROM and he added few things on it, such as reboot, battery icon changer, theming and stuff. So that's basically stock ROM with few added extras. Maybe u could make a request on his forum about Facebook sync etc. It is in nexus 4 original development.
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lol what are you talking about. all ROMs for N4 look like a stock interface, they're all built upon the Holo theme introduced in ICS.
the whole Paranoid Android is all about changing DPI and integrating the status bar on the bottom with the nav bars instead of having a status bar up on top.
That's not a definition of a "minimal" ROM then. You're looking for a stable ROM. At this date, I feel that every ROM is stable and it's practically up to you on what kind of additional features you want with your phone. That's all it really comes down to.
New ROM versions come out because they want to put out newer features (yes they are stable). No one forces you to update them, you can flash it once and leave it. When you want to, you can dirty flash up upon it.
If you don't want to update your ROM then why did you flash custom ROMs in the first place?
According to your OP Post,
Root: All ROMs have it
Deodex: All ROMs come deodexed
Enhanced Quick Settings: most ROMs has this. some ROMs use tiles only. CM10.1 has both
Enhanced Power Menu: most ROMs have this.
Google Wallet: no such thing as patched google wallet. google wallet from the play store works fine with root.
t9 dialer: most roms have this again.
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it all comes down to YOU as an individual going to the forum and looking at your options. they're all fantastic choices and all stable roms. read the last couple of pages for feedback. its not that hard man. its like you asking the question, "what is the most minimal house" you want something stable... each rom has its own uniqueness, its up to you to decide what you want.
with my biasm, id go towards cyanogenmod10.1 + franco kernel for the cleanest code and has everything i want.
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Possibly because I came from a HTC world where ROMs (non-stock) would be built to aim towards AOSP based roms and would come with instabilities.
All ROMs do come deodexed, but some have options for odex too - I guess it was a bit silly really to put deodex and root on the list, but to be honest it was a copy and paste from a conversation I was having saying what I wanted to gain from my Nexus 4 in addition to stock
EQS and EPM are probably the _first_ things a dev/modder does with a ROM - to be honest I don't know why Google don't add this in to stock. Same with t9 dailer - again coming from a htc where it was built in to their stock roms I got used to it.
In the end I just flashed MCR because it has most features out the box (missing t9 dialer and facebook sync unless you go premium) and it'll do for now.
i'll reconsider again in a few months when I have had time to settle in and life has calmed down over the xmas rush.
I used to flash once per month but I found I dont have that much free time recently so thats my reasoning behind saying that I was looking for something stable that I can leave alone for a few months
I have seen threads pertaining to apk's from specific roms to specific roms, but not one like I'm thinking. Because a lot of roms are AOSP based, are the apk's therein able to be installed/restored to another AOSP rom? i.e. from AOKP to the GE roms floating around. Or from TW based to TW based. What determines the compatibility? I'm sorry if this is a noob question, but I am humbly that.
Thanks
What is it going to hurt to push a apk from a different source into the rom you are running, if it does not work it will just f/c. That's all the testing you need.
Okay. Well this is what I did, I pulled the MMS.apks from a few Roms on carrier, kernel, and JB. One of them ran with SOME on the menu options I was looking for. However, the other one which I know has what I'm looking for in it installed and then FC. I tried fixing the permissions as well as a few other things.
Right direction?
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You are in the right direction, now I didn't mean they all would work, some will though, I hunted and pecked until I found ones that I could use, and they work.
Along the way I found a few that refused to cooperate with what I wanted. You're ok.
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Okay. Well this is what I did, I pulled the MMS.apks from a few Roms on carrier, kernel, and JB. One of them ran with SOME on the menu options I was looking for. However, the other one which I know has what I'm looking for in it installed and then FC. I tried fixing the permissions as well as a few other things.
Right direction?
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One thing to keep in mind regarding system APKs, many depend on the framework found on the phone. APK's based on touchwiz for example may not work properly on an ASOP based ROM. For example, you can't take the stock samsung MMS app and port it to cyanogenmod and expect it to work. needless to say, this also means you can't take an MMS app from an HTC phone (using sense UI) and expect it to work in a touchwiz based rom.
System APK's also often require additional libraries to work. If you take just the camera APK from touchwiz and use it on a google edition (the frameworks match) the camera will still not work. If you take all the system libraries needed for that app, it will work (the samsung camera app has been successfully ported to the google edition).
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One thing to keep in mind regarding system APKs, many depend on the framework found on the phone. APK's based on touchwiz for example may not work properly on an ASOP based ROM. For example, you can't take the stock samsung MMS app and port it to cyanogenmod and expect it to work. needless to say, this also means you can't take an MMS app from an HTC phone (using sense UI) and expect it to work in a touchwiz based rom.
System APK's also often require additional libraries to work. If you take just the camera APK from touchwiz and use it on a google edition (the frameworks match) the camera will still not work. If you take all the system libraries needed for that app, it will work (the samsung camera app has been successfully ported to the google edition).
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School time, you now have my attention, can you give an example what to pull over for lets say, the camera apk. It would be very useful to me in the future with other apks. I did not know this. Thanks, seriously.
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School time, you now have my attention, can you give an example what to pull over for lets say, the camera apk. It would be very useful to me in the future with other apks. I did not know this. Thanks, seriously.
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here is one of the major threads going on regarding google edition and bringing in pure touchwiz features. I've not done it personally so i can only go by what's been reported.
For example, the camera, look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43054051&highlight=camera#post43054051
I will give it a try, most interesting for sure.
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Is there any way to get some of the stock apps from the VZW LG G2? I have tried flashing a couple of different ROMs and I always end up missing the weather widget and the keyboard. Even if someone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.
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Is there any way to get some of the stock apps from the VZW LG G2? I have tried flashing a couple of different ROMs and I always end up missing the weather widget and the keyboard. Even if someone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.
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Even CleanROM?
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Reginald476 said:
Even CleanROM?
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Clean ROM had the apps I liked...seems that deodexed ROMS May not play well with the weather widget and prior seem to think they are losing some large amount of screen real estate with the stock keyboard. It is what it is. I could always learn to build ROMs myself. Not a deal render not having the couple of things i miss though.
I have clean ROM and the Creator had removed Q Translator calling it BS bloat. I used that app daily and would like to have it back. Where can I get the apk?
This is a quick little question. I haven't been able to find a ROM that was just a smooth minimal debloated ROM. X-Note is full of a tonne of crap I don't need and it doesn't look like someone has made a 'stock close to AOSP' ROM. No offense meant, they're just not for me. Anyone have any good news? I might have to make one then...
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This is a quick little question. I haven't been able to find a ROM that was just a smooth minimal debloated ROM. X-Note is full of a tonne of crap I don't need and it doesn't look like someone has made a 'stock close to AOSP' ROM. No offense meant, they're just not for me. Anyone have any good news? I might have to make one then...
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Use debloater on a normal stock ROM, or just flash Cyanogen. Cyanogen is as slim as your girlfriend in thirty saunas.
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Try Jackyaway. I have a pretty decent battery life on it. I also remove the bloatwares using Note 3 Cleaner by CoOoL_BoY
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Try Jackyaway. I have a pretty decent battery life on it. I also remove the bloatwares using Note 3 Cleaner by CoOoL_BoY
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Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.
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Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.
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I would suggest flashing alexndrs Rom. I have manually debloated this, very heavily.. all with root explorer followed by a data wipe. Over 850mb free in system.
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Cyanogenmod is very slim and has the potential to be great if they iron out the bugs.
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celderic said:
I would suggest flashing alexndrs Rom. I have manually debloated this, very heavily.. all with root explorer followed by a data wipe. Over 850mb free in system.
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Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard
AmberLynn said:
Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard
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Id rather not upload over 1gb, took me about an hour on the phone to get it set up like this, Trial and error.
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andjohn said:
Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.
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Most of the time I also debloat manually but I give a try on the note 3 cleaner of cooolboy since most of the apps that can be debloat on his mod is just the same as my debloated apps.
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AmberLynn said:
Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard
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How about before installing the custom rom that you will use, check the apps that will be installed on the zip file. Extract it first and check on the system/data. You can delete some apps but be sure you know what to delete.
debloating threads are really user unfriendly and have nearly no research on.
A lot of apps that are removed cause incompatibility with other apps. You can remove the non-sense My Magazine, and the built-in Email will go havoc, and you cant just offer an alternative mail client in that case.
If somebody slimmed down the stock firmwares, that would do a lot of ppl favours.
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Id rather not upload over 1gb, took me about an hour on the phone to get it set up like this, Trial and error.
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Hello, maybe you could just post the content of your system directories (file listings, especially app, priv-app and framework)?
Thanks,
best regards
Amber
AmberLynn said:
Hello, maybe you could just post the content of your system directories (file listings, especially app, priv-app and framework)?
Thanks,
best regards
Amber
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How is this possible without manually typing out 175 - 200 apk names ? No way i have the patience for typing them all out haha.
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I think the reason there are no "slim" roms is because you will lose some of the features that make the Note range unique. Touchwiz is vital to those features.
By going AOSP - it will basically be a big Nexus.
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actually, there are cyanogen mod for n9005. but you will loose samsung apps and its feature such as s note etc.
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There are alternatives such as Papyrus instead of S-Note (I like it better). I think the only reasons this phone is unique is the Pen (works in CM) and the size. So, a slim ROM makes sense as there's a lot of crap that Samsung adds that is not very useful.
I am using this ROM, like the OP I wanted all that crap of my phone. So found this here. I'll let the thread speak for itself...
I'd love to have a ROM like that as well. It would be especially great if you could decide for yourself what you install. Basically I want it as slim as possible so that the OS itself runs without errors but I don't want basic stuff like email, calculator and all that stuff either because the stock apps are usually crap compared to apps from the play store. I use a different calendar, email, calculator, music player, video player... so I just want a clean base OS to build on without all that stuff I never use anyways.
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I'd love to have a ROM like that as well. It would be especially great if you could decide for yourself what you install. Basically I want it as slim as possible so that the OS itself runs without errors but I don't want basic stuff like email, calculator and all that stuff either because the stock apps are usually crap compared to apps from the play store. I use a different calendar, email, calculator, music player, video player... so I just want a clean base OS to build on without all that stuff I never use anyways.
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That would be nice but some applications rely upon others so you cannot remove some stuff because other things won't work.
there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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Count me in, I'm interested.
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any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
dougiefresh181 said:
any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
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I don't have any requests, yet. I usually modify roms, to my liking anyway, but I'm definitely interested in your rom, and I'll help anyway I can.
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Im interested, too
What I would like to see are some features I know from cyanogenmod:
Close apps with long press back key
Customizable pull down menu
Screenshots via on/off menu
Maybe a better music player
I have lots of ideas
Very interested! How about a dark theme? All black backgrounds instead of the ugly touchwiz white???????????
Its realy not that easy to change from wihte to black BG. Also tekst switch needed.and the fun part comes now...basicly for best result needed for ALL systemapps.
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As i said guys, im new to this, but il, try my best. It might be a while before i get all of your features in, but it will happene eventually. Ill start it soon :fingers-crossed:
SM-P601 If you interested
i only have a p600, sorry
A good minimal rom debloated and with just a few tweaks sounds perfect!
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What about active display, could it be implemented "natively" like some aosp roms (Omni's is superb) ?
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A fully debloated kk-Rom was great with a good tweaked Kernel with OC/UV-features. Than the ability to chance the screen-resolution to fullHD for better gaming-performance like in SDBAGS Cromi-X Rom for Asus tf701t. ES File-Explorer, Xposed Framework as system apps. Than the old webkit-android-browser(aosp) with bookmark-sync, like in Scroslers Clean-Rom.
And I think there is a lot more to make KK better.
sorry guys, project is cancelled. hanspampel made a 4.4 kat rom which is almost exactly what i would have done. i highly recommend checking it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725121
i might take up the cause again if i have time, but im not sure when that will be