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Incredible on Sprint Network?

I have a Hero currently and would love a faster phone. The EVO is ok but too big for me. I would prefer the Incredible.
I know i can buy one for about $600 price does not matter. However I can not leave sprint. is there anyway known way to get the Incredible to work on sprint with full internet/MMS?
Just to be clear I DONT WANT THE EVO. I want the Incredible. ;-D
Please stay on topic. Im not looking for phone advice.
Thanks in advance!

No. Sprint won't add any ESNs that aren't native to their network.

hazard666 said:
No. Sprint won't add any ESNs that aren't native to their network.
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getting them to register the esn is not an issue.

I would venture to say that if getting sprint to register the esn, your next task would be to flash a sprint prl.
Other than that I would imagine the phone will function with the currently available roms.
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I would also need mms settings and internet settings and perhaps apn settings. I know nothing about how to do this yet.
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Of course it is possible and not really that difficult although it does take a few hours to figure it out.
You will have to google for info and it will be scattered throughout the forums.
Good luck!

So if I copy all the NAM1 Settings with something like QPST from my hero And find a way to get them to use the new ESN/MEID Ill be golden..
I guess its time to talk to the Sprint rep.

Why can't you leave sprint? Might be cheaper to just pay the etf ($250 I think, or less depending on how far you are into it), and get the incredible at $200 on contract with VZ instead of the $600 for the incredible to put on sprint.

Welp
If you can stomach Sprint, then grab an EVO 4G and be done with it.

How I miss the days when you could use other cdma phones in vzw (not that i knew how to do it personally, but what are friends for?). Lucky you if youhave someone who will clear the esn for you. If i had connect like that at Verizon I'd totally have an EVO right now
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I would Like to Do this also
I want to run an Incredible on sprint also... I am thinking about wiping the Incredible's ESN and replacing it with my Hero's ESN. If I accomplish this then do I also have to flash the PRI on the Incredible ?
Thanks,
Jay

I have an Incredible running flawlessly in Mexico, with Iusacell. It took me probably 5 minutes to get it running, following a Hero guide. You just have to dial ##PROGRAM and input all the changes there, the Incredible has no settings locked down.
I don't know if replacing the MEID(ESN) of the Inc is currently possible, you should check with the CDMA Workshop guys...

Has this been accomplished?
Has this been accomplished yet? I am interested in this as well. Perhaps we can get some steps? I know I don't want to get the EVO for two reasons: 1) the Incredible has an awesome form factor 2) I don't want to pay the extra $10 for 4G when I can't use it/don't need it.

This can be done, like "lamerto" I also have an incredible fully working on the Iusacell network(Mexico) and maybe the most difficult thing to do on this case is activate the meid on sprint(on Iusacell this things are easy) and maybe get the prl (in my case I can even download OTA way)
so the all the rest is a piece of cake, you have a hero, so you only have to read it with qpst, save or just copy all the parameters and then write it to the incredible (even the drivers are the same) and the only thing that is different is the meid (guessing that you're going to use the line that you have on the hero, on the dinc)
that's all this way you can have an incredible working on sprint(maybe you have to copy the mms parameters later, but that can be done even from the phone)
greetings
PD: sorry for my bad english

awesome thread. couple of guys on #htc-evo on freenode
have recommended the hong kong batteries.
I mean really, sprint batteries originate from that part of the world
anyway
luckily i have a spare 1500 battery (official) anyway. need a charger
solution though.

HTC Knight sounds like the Option...

Moto Atrix (Dual C) vs Epic

Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.

Atrix makes sammiches tho

Atrix? Meh.

NoSoMo said:
Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.
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i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms

Good.luck with the custom kernels on the atrix.
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Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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ghostrid3r said:
Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.
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i am in denial but I cant wait till cm7 gets here for my girls phone

My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?

heathmcabee said:
My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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Not the first moto device with a locked boot loader, anything and everything is hackable. Period.
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heathmcabee said:
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Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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XOOM is a "flagship device" all of google's flagship devices are the first to ship with the OS and are VERY developer friendly so far the list is G1,Droid,Nexus 1, Nexus S, XOOM

Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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LOL -- ATT....did someone just defend ATTs service???
Sprint's CLEAR division has LTE in Phoenix running 100Mb down and peak 47Mb uploads.........ATT probably runs their whole network off of one of the LTE connections.
There will always be someone who lives in a dead zone. WiMax ins't there yet, but between Sprint and Verizon's networks, Phoenix couldn't be covered any better. Roms allow for forced roam, which I had on my WinMo 6.5 phone.....and could switch between networks and roam 3G if I had a Sprint issue. It made for the most robust phone I've ever seen anyone in possession of (TP2 was quad band).

dcowboys2184 said:
That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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Their 'enhanced' 3G is quite fast....Got over 5Mb on my sisters Samsung Tab sitting 100ft in front of the tower....2Mb up. Damn't Sprint, unlock our WiMax UPLOAD already.......bandwidth is clearly available up and down, it won't do jack to the network if they let us full duplex. I mean, it's a phone..... I couldn't imagine FB pic uploads swamping the network with just a fraction of the HD YouTube streaming

Overstew said:
Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.
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Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.

lviv73 said:
Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.
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sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon

brian2220 said:
sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon
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Almost all store employees are dumb at any carrier.
What counts for sprint and tmobile is that they dont disconnect your service if you dont pay wkthing 2-3 days.I can be 2 weeks late with sprint and not get charged extra and not even have a warning from sprint.
Plus on sprint and tmobile I can download 80gb of movies a month,they dont have data cap.So if you use your phone as your primary internet then tmo and sprint is only choices.
I just wish I dint leave tmobile for sprint because speed was way faster on tmobile,and my promised sprint's 4g never came.

Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
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musclehead84 said:
Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
Sent From My Evo Killer!
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Lol at swype fail . Jk
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The atrix is a far more powerful device, but the first true dual cores will be powered by omap4 and perhaps 3rd Gen snapdragons or tegra3's. That's when it all really begins.

AT&T buy's T-mobile, whatcha think?

I'm not sure if this is good or bad.
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-buys-t-mobile-2011-3
On one side I think it's great because it'll allow AT&T to better compete with Verizon and hopefully bring down prices. Right now Verizon has a huge hold on customers because of their fantastic coverage, but after this move AT&T won't be too far behind- maybe even a little ahead.
On the other side it's lowering the number of big players, so it's possible AT&T and Verizon with both decide to jack up their rates together instead of better competing for prices.

No offense but look around for the other 15+ topics about this.
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I jumped ship at the right time. I couldn't be happier with the service. Never a dropped call, fast consistent data. Att was charging me the same price for what Verizon is and Verizon simply just offers more. I was with att for six years and finally had it. When I called they didn't even want to keep me. I think this is going to push some long time customers on both sides to leave and find a different provider.
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Its good and bad.
The Bad:
ATT monopoly has just grown even bigger than it was before.
(from experience) With each take over it does, service quality gets worse
Higher prices on little service
The Good:
More towers
Now has a wider spectrum (frequency 1700 & 2100)
Now tmobile and att devices will truly be interchangeable.
I was going to move to tmoble on the 15th of may when att cuts my service due to me being on the legacy (mmode) network. That sux cause now they are one in the same. Thats BS and Verizon sux in my area as well as Sprint. The two best were... believe it or not Att and T-mobile.

That exact topic is why im typing this from a droid x kb on my dinc. I hate at&t. I hate what they do to thier customers, i especially hate the fact they raped what little sanity the gsm market had in it. T mobile. Once i heard about the buyout i called one of my buddies at verizon and he set me up. Its not all bad. Im on verizon now. No at&t for me.
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To be fair, this is all speculation at this point. It will be quite some time before we find out if AT&T will even be allowed to acquire T-mobile.

Its not speculation, att world never come out with this news if it was not a pretty sure deal. Yes, they do have some hurdles to jump, but I can guarantee att has been talking to various government regulators for quite some time so none of this is a surprise to anyone but us who are on the outside. Unfortunately for tmo customers like me I'll be dealing with the horrible customer service, limited internet, and higher prices that att has to offer in a few months
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Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
DINC // CM7 RC2 // SLAYHER#9

wildstang83 said:
Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
DINC // CM7 RC2 // SLAYHER#9
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That would be one hell of a monopoly.

I think its good and bad. The bad now people have only one really ****ty service provider to choose from. The good maybe at&t will realize we need to fix some **** and might actually be something that others can say hey at&t is good. Now that verizon has the iphone at&t has only one edge and thats the atrix. However i guarantee you it wont be long until htc releases an atrix like product on big red.

Tmobile closing 7 of 24 call centers in the nation!!!

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/t-mo...untry/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
What provider is next best for upgrades , decent phones, pricing and customer service?? Feel free to rant and rave.
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IMO, Sprint sucks... I refuse to deal with AT&T.. my next carrier if Tmobile were to collapse would be Verizon.... but it really depends on your area

vinterchaos said:
IMO, Sprint sucks... I refuse to deal with AT&T.. my next carrier if Tmobile were to collapse would be Verizon.... but it really depends on your area
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Agree, verizon seems like the next best choice. Our good magenta is not the same :-(
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

I used to have Verizon like 5+ years ago. They gad good coverage. I always turned to Tmobile though because of their cheap plans and customer service plus they had a good selection of phones. Not to mention wifi calling.
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They're all horrible. Unfortunately I can't stand CDMA and not having a SIM card so... I'm stuck with the blue deathstar or T-Mobile who compresses the crap out of my images.

Yeah. Ill have to stick with sim card.
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They're all horrible. Unfortunately I can't stand CDMA and not having a SIM card so... I'm stuck with the blue deathstar or T-Mobile who compresses the crap out of my images.
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IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)

magiconthetire said:
IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)
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Also makes it easy to swap upgrades among accounts and quickly switching to a backup if your phone breaks

magiconthetire said:
IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)
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zander21510 said:
Also makes it easy to swap upgrades among accounts and quickly switching to a backup if your phone breaks
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Exactly why I won't use CDMA. I enjoy having a much broader range of potential devices--especially unbranded devices. And if my phone breaks or I brick it out of momentary stupidity, I can quickly swap it for one of the other phones I have.

What's funny to me about this is they 1900 people will be relocated. I call bs on that. All they will do is have them far away to fire them. The center here (where I used to work) had 700 employee's about 2 years ago. Since the announcement of the AT&T buyout they started firing everyone they could. The same center now has about 200 employees or less. If they're struggling for $$ so bad why aside a bunch of money to pay the executives. T-mobile executives have screwed thousands of employees. I was lucky enough to find a better job before most of this started but I've had a lot of friends to just come in one morning and for no reason walk right back out. The unemployment office here doesn't ask any questions anymore once you say you worked for T-Mobile. They know they're firing everyone. Awful situation if you ask me.

unlvmike said:
Agree, verizon seems like the next best choice. Our good magenta is not the same :-(
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
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You should look at this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel
And tell me they are the next best choice. If I have have to use it as a phone for data, I pick up my SGS 2 GT9100 on AT&T. If I don't care about if works or not I use my razr for the bit faster data speeds.)

VZW supersupport vs everyone else

Ok. Most of the team's and members in this community or on xda either know me or have least seen my name. Whether that is my perception or a fact I am hoping you understand the spirit behind this post.
Foe the past 2 years I have either used a vzw gnex or vzw gs3. I loved the support that the gnex had and the almost google experiance of the galaxy nexus.
One thing I always noticed was the amount of roms that the gsm community had over gnex. It became understood that while many devs and teams tried support both only a hand full or two kept with it. the ones that did were very generous and I am grateful f or all your work and time!!!?
So when i was consideringmy next phone it seemed that a gsm phone would be the way to go to get access to the most devs talent.
So I told vzw to go skip!!!$$$$&&:;;;
Now I broke my contract, paid the fee and signed up with tmobile. Now I have this beast of a phone and the first half dozen aosp roms are built but for verizon not a gsm variant,
I am shocked how the switch happened and fast. I am not complaining just wanted to see the community way in on this. Obviously the development is picking up and might balance out. I also am aware that vzw variant came out earlier in US, however over seas gsm g2's have been out for just as long or longer than vzw.
So please give me your thoughts,
Thanks again to all tje devs and teams no matter if u are currently supporting our not!!!!!
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I had the VZW GNex for almost 2 years and had it unlocked and rooted on day 1. I can't speak to the number of GSM ROMs available, but there was certainly no shortage of development for the LTE variant. I had 4.3 on it 6 months ago. The G2 just got that yesterday...
Just my opinion, but the root-head needs to consider WAY more than past developer support when deciding on a new device. Device popularity fuels development. Like it or not, VZW phones tend to sway the market pretty heavily. The VZW variant of a given device is bound to be one of the most numerous on the planet. Add to that the fact that the previous VZW Nexus devices started falling off contract last month and you have all those people looking to move forward...and likely intending to stay with VZW.
Last I read, The Nexus 5 wasn't likely to be seen any time soom on VZW...but the big brother (the G2) is already out. That puts the VZW G2 in the bulls eye for hot development.
IMHO...

Thanks for your opinion!
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The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.

Toro support was good but compared to gsm thread not even close. The network coverage here is better for my home and work. At work 3g sometimes with vzw or nada. Which kills battery. T-Mobile 4g all day, so there is no universal better, that depends on your location. So i had the best network with no data at work all day.
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fr4nk1yn said:
The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
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You mean substandard for where you work/live/play, right? I don't think you'd be dumb enough to suggest that T-Mobile is substandard for everyone, right? Right? I mean, I have 3 lines, unlimited everything, with 30Mbps LTE everywhere that I work/live/play, and I pay 140 dollars a month. I always have service, I always have data, and I don't drop phonecalls. Is that considered substandard to you?
Let me give you a pro tip, that you should follow at all times. Network service is location dependent. I completely understand the need to justify paying 250 dollars for 3 phones with limited data, etc, on VZW by saying at least the network is great, but lets face it. The vast, vast majority of people don't wander too far from home that often. The vast majority of people are not traveling the countryside from coast to coast all year long, and they don't give a rat's behind that bumstick Idaho has LTE coverage on the VZW map. I used to think I needed VZW, I'm glad I broke the spell that they hold over their customers about how every other network is garbage, because it's simply not true.