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Hi,
I earn the normal amount of money so I don't have the expenses to go out and buy a new phone every time one comes out. I got the S4 like a weeks ago and now I read that AT&T is extending their upgrade periods to 24 months not 20 months so I am asking if you guys think the S4 will last 2 years? I had the S2 prior and got a upgrade 18 months in to the period.
Thanks!
any phone will last 2 years if you take care of it. Will it keep up with new software and hardware? Unknown, but it depends on your requirements. My wife is happy with a Motorola Bravo - she likes the size and it does what she wants.
I have Q9M that works too, so if you are asking about will it physically last 2 years, then I don't see any reason why it won't - if you take care of it.
I see the S4 lasting more then as 2 years aslong as you are happy with it. I still have a htc tilt and wizard that are still kicking. They are slow but still gets the job done.
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The G3 and G4 will be supported for awhile...count on it.
TheAxman said:
The G3 and G4 will be supported for awhile...count on it.
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they will be supported by Samsung but what about AT&T? At&T S3 is still on 4.1.1...and no premium suite...all the carriers have released it.
Especially since the phone is so high end, I don't see any major breakthroughs that could really make this phone outdated for a loooong time. The only reason I upgraded from my S3 is because I could
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they will be supported by Samsung but what about AT&T? At&T S3 is still on 4.1.1...and no premium suite...all the carriers have released it.
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They'll likely be supported by developers on XDA.
viny2cool said:
they will be supported by Samsung but what about AT&T? At&T S3 is still on 4.1.1...and no premium suite...all the carriers have released it.
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Come on man
We're on XDA here. There is no zero chance that the two most popular Android phones (S3/S4) will be ignored. Who cares if AT&T doesn't support it? I have faith in the devs here. :good:
Your upgrade will roll out about the time I expect to see super batteries and if we're lucky, OLED displays also.
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Source Sammobile!
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Early 2015 my friend. My note 4 needs a lollipop
"fighting as one hand one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares"
nano303 said:
Early 2015 my friend. My note 4 needs a lollipop
"fighting as one hand one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares"
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Looks like who ever told you that is wrong. They said the same thing about the s5 now look over at their forum. I'm putting my money on sometime in the next 2 weeks
The carrier S5 wont receipt lolipop for quite a while longer, just because the international one got it doesn't mean we will.
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The carrier S5 wont receipt lolipop for quite a while longer, just because the international one got it doesn't mean we will.[/QUOTE
We probably won't get official until a month or so.
most certainly we will get some ports.
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I could care less about lollipop honestly. My Note 4 is butter.
Doesn't anyone read anymore? By that I mean the history of US carrier updates vs. international updates. We go through this EVERY OS upgrade. International phones are unlocked with no carrier bloat or needed approvals. Samsung can push the OS updates right to them or through Kies. The US Carriers receive the proposed update from Samsung, it then gets a pile of bloat that the carrier wants added to it, it goes back to Samsung for that and Samsung testing, then sent to the US Carrier for testing....IF...IF all is well, then the carrier then decides when is the best time to push out the update...maybe it is strategically approximated just AFTER a new phone comes out hoping people will rush to get the new device already updated....maybe it would be a slow period when they know they can dedicate their customer service to anyone out there having problems with the OTA...bottom line is it takes quite some time after the international phones get their update before any US Carrier sees it. And luckily for you guys it is usually Sprint and T-Mobile that stay ahead of that curve...my guess is the locked bootloaders and security on the other 2 carriers slows them down.
I Think you know already that no one reads anymore!
I doubt anyone reads anymore lol , its the same drill year in year out .
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Stupid...your reading what you write. That's not reading? Lol !!! I read articles allllll the time. Reading Is the sht
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I could care less about lollipop honestly. My Note 4 is butter.
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Don't say that bro it might be butter but lollipop is a higher grade butter I can tell you my wife note 3 running lollipop runs better than my note 4
Show me the Ota
the latest flavor of Google's mobile operating system is now available for the GS5 in Poland, blog site SamMobile said Wednesday. Poland has been used by mobile device makers as a starting point to test out new Android updates before it spreads around the world. As such, the Polish launch is a good sign that Lollipop should soon start to pop up in other regions.
The Polish version of the Galaxy S5 has the same model number as the version used in Europe, according to blog site SlashGear, which means European users could be next on the list. Samsung is also likely to launch Android 5.0 in its home base of South Korea at some point in the near future.
A similar scenario has played out with LG's G3 smartphone. Owners of the phone residing in Poland were first on the list to receive a bite of Lollipop. Just a couple of weeks later, G3 owners in South Korea started seeing the update appear on their devices. Android 5.0 could reach GS5 owners in other regions before the month and year are over.
The US is a different story, however. Android updates in the US can take awhile as they have to be tested by not only the device makers but also the mobile carriers who must also certify and plan the rollout. As such, Galaxy S5 owners in the US are unlikely to get a lick of Lollipop until 2015.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/android-5-0-lollipop-starts-to-flavor-samsung-galaxy-s5/
We won't see it till February.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
With that spelled out and rumor dispelled
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Why is it that the S5 is getting the rollout to Lollipop now for Verizon and the Note 3 isn't getting it yet? Verizon started the OTA for the S5 today. This is a bunch of crap.
I am not happy. If I can't root my Note 3 on 4.4.4 at least let me have Lollipop
kclive said:
Why is it that the S5 is getting the rollout to Lollipop now for Verizon and the Note 3 isn't getting it yet? Verizon started the OTA for the S5 today. This is a bunch of crap.
I am not happy. If I can't root my Note 3 on 4.4.4 at least let me have Lollipop
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I believe they normally move from newest to oldest. S5 being the newest. Note 3 should be next hopefully. Or Note 4 then note 3 if the Note 4 did not get it yet.
My buddy has the note 4 and hasn't received it yet. I would assume it would be next in line. Hopefully if verizon drags its ass someone will find exploits and port touch wiz lollipop over to us. As much as I hate touch wiz I do rely a lot on some of the apps CM doesn't give me like s notes.
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Why is it that the S5 is getting the rollout to Lollipop now for Verizon and the Note 3 isn't getting it yet? Verizon started the OTA for the S5 today. This is a bunch of crap.
I am not happy. If I can't root my Note 3 on 4.4.4 at least let me have Lollipop
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s5 does not have a replacement on the shelves yet note 3 has the note 4 replacing it. Note 3 are on the verge of not being carried at verizon stores anymore. So any work done to improve or update the note 3 is non profitable. It does not take a lot to realize big red only cares about 1 thing the black numbers being big and red numbers being small note 3 represents red numbers.
This very situation is why i feel carriers need to be stripped of the ability to mess with phones bad enough manufactures paste junk all over the phone.
kclive said:
Why is it that the S5 is getting the rollout to Lollipop now for Verizon and the Note 3 isn't getting it yet? Verizon started the OTA for the S5 today. This is a bunch of crap.
I am not happy. If I can't root my Note 3 on 4.4.4 at least let me have Lollipop
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I said the exact same thing soon as we found out the 4.4.4 wasn't rootable. It sucks but the newer phones always get the upgrades first. I got kinda excited once I saw the Note 3 Lollipop video but once they clamped down on the Note 3 and 4 with Verizon I'm done. It appears the Nexus 6 rumors are true and that's what I'm holding out for. It's lacking some things I'll truly miss like removable battery and sd card but for me I've been modding phones since the Audiovox 6700 and I love flashing roms too much to stop. Sorry as I know it's taboo to talk about other phones in this forum.
I too like to be able to mod my phone the way I see fit. If this is how it is going to be with Verizon I too will be jumping ship from Samsung to the Nexus 6. I have a funny feeling that Verizon will try to lock it down as well, so if I decide to go that way I will try to get my Nexus from the play store so I know it will be unlocked and I can do what I want with it.
The Note 3 will see lollipop way down the line.
This is the thing I don't understand about people who are on Verizon. I bought the Note 3 knowing the bootloader was locked down and that rooting and romming was going to be very limited, if at all. This was commen sense. Also Verizon had been locking down phones for how many years now? These complaints just seem maddening or they're coming from people who didn't nt understand what they were getting into.
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The Note 3 will see lollipop way down the line.
This is the thing I don't understand about people who are on Verizon. I bought the Note 3 knowing the bootloader was locked down and that rooting and romming was going to be very limited, if at all. This was commen sense. Also Verizon had been locking down phones for how many years now? These complaints just seem maddening or they're coming from people who didn't nt understand what they were getting into.
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I had no problem with the boot loader, I was happy using Safestrap. At least I could do some customizing that way.
I heard Samsung was upset with carriers that they take so long to push updates they already have. it hurts them in the long run verizon doesn't care what phone you have. So it goes Google Samsung then carrier or Verizon rather. So they take a long time. Only phone I belive to get fastest updates are Google like nexus. I believe they push it directly to those phones themselves.
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Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
rushless said:
Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
droidguy22 said:
Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
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Yes. Sprint got it a month ago.
I was thinking that it was taking abnormally long too, but since AT&T and T-Mo haven't gotten it yet, it makes me wonder. Especially since part of T Mobile's Note 4s have it and the others don't. (The ones with a different model number have them, but the original model numbers don't.)
Perhaps they are fine tuning stuff for the Qualcomm models and used Sprint as a guinea pig since Sprint barely has any subscribers anymore, it probably makes a great lab rat!
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Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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I don't think so! I believe that we won't get 6.0 update in 2015. It's most likely that US carriers (VZW, ATT, TMB, and USC) will follow the international variants and push 5.1.1 update in 2015 (probably, it's due in October) and wait too long for the next big thing (M) sometime in 2016, after releasing it for the 2015 flagships (S6 and its family) in the next few months. However, I hope you're right.
Verizon always seems to be last and not fair to the older phones in the cue. To me we paid out our cash way before the S6 owners , no offense. I think the S4 will be the cut off so, why not be fair and start from that. Verizon, at least on the phone and in the stores, always bring up loyalty, show it!
But I wonder if it has anything to do that Verizon is a CDMA system
KennyG123 said:
It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
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interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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This is Verizon. We'll get 6.0 next year if we're lucky.
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I read some carriers in Canada are receiving 5.1.1 on Note 4 via OTA.
AT&T got it today. I'm guessing T-Mobile will be next and We'll get it in January.
According to Pocket-Lint, Android 6.0 update is set to land on the Note 4 next month.
Of course.... who knows when VZW will acquiesce. Can't wait to move up from KK to a decents OS. :good:
Knowing Verizon they will be the last ones to release it. I'm betting we don't see it until at least April or may.
I doubt it will land on our devices in February. The international Note 4 will be getting it in February however.
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Knowing Verizon they will be the last ones to release it. I'm betting we don't see it until at least April or may.
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of 2017, yeah. April or may? lmao not happening this year man. took 9 months for them just to get out 5.1 lol
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If you recall, last year our Lollipop update came after some carriers updated the GS4, GS5 and the Note 3. That stupid virtual reality porn headset thing (oh, you can use it for stuff other than porn??) delayed our update.
Let's hope something comes up and delays it for the Note 5 and the GS6. LOL
I'm not going to hold my breath.
Me neither. They just released 5.1.1. It'll be months and months before they can be bothered to release marshmallow.
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usmaak said:
Me neither. They just released 5.1.1. It'll be months and months before they can be bothered to release marshmallow.
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I still don't even have 5.1.1 and yet it was officially released from Verizon. I'm heavily considering going to a Nexus 6P or waiting to see what the next Nexus phone is in 2016. I love my Note, and will seriously miss the S Pen and note taking capability but I really hate how much unnecessary control Verizon has over the phone I own.
Samsung has delayed their Marshmallow upgrades by two months. Woohoo! I'm assuming the update will roll out the week after my last Edge payment when I switch phones. :eyeroll:
Then again, maybe that is a blessing. Usually the last update they give to a device is the one where they royally screw up the software to the point that you want a new phone anyhow.
ecksehl said:
I still don't even have 5.1.1 and yet it was officially released from Verizon. I'm heavily considering going to a Nexus 6P or waiting to see what the next Nexus phone is in 2016. I love my Note, and will seriously miss the S Pen and note taking capability but I really hate how much unnecessary control Verizon has over the phone I own.
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I got the Note 4 for the large screen and the S Pen. It was only after using it a few times, I realized that my handwriting is terrible, I have no artistic talents at all, and the S Pen makes each of these more apparent. I haven't removed it from it's little home inside the phone since. The large screen is nice, though my screen has all sorts of quality control issues.
I too would like my next phone to NOT be tied to Verizon. I was fortunate in that I was able to get back to 4.4.4 when I realized what a train wreck 5.01 was, but it annoys me to no end that they let people sit with that on their phones for six month while trying to blame user habits for all of the issues with battery life and crashing. Total scumbag corporation move. I would leave Verizon if I could, but they're the only game in town here. Just the other day, I was explaining to my wife that my main reason for not liking this phone is that I've had it for a year and three months, and there hasn't been a useful update to it. The only updates for it have been awful.
My contract is up in October, and I'll be looking at Nexus and whatever they have at that point. Either that, or some other phone that will allow some control over what's on it.
I haven't attempted to update yet. I'm still on 4.4.4. I'm not going to update until I'm 100% sure that my phone will end up on 5.1.1. Even better if a safe upgrade path is created at some point.
I've upgraded to 5.1.1 and have not had any issues whatsoever. One thing I do though is perform a full factory reset after a major upgrade. Never had issues by doing this. I make sure my important stuff is backed up to SD card or Google drive. All apps auto install when prompted.
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I got the Note 4 for the large screen and the S Pen. It was only after using it a few times, I realized that my handwriting is terrible, I have no artistic talents at all, and the S Pen makes each of these more apparent. I haven't removed it from it's little home inside the phone since. The large screen is nice, though my screen has all sorts of quality control issues.
I too would like my next phone to NOT be tied to Verizon. I was fortunate in that I was able to get back to 4.4.4 when I realized what a train wreck 5.01 was, but it annoys me to no end that they let people sit with that on their phones for six month while trying to blame user habits for all of the issues with battery life and crashing. Total scumbag corporation move. I would leave Verizon if I could, but they're the only game in town here. Just the other day, I was explaining to my wife that my main reason for not liking this phone is that I've had it for a year and three months, and there hasn't been a useful update to it. The only updates for it have been awful.
My contract is up in October, and I'll be looking at Nexus and whatever they have at that point. Either that, or some other phone that will allow some control over what's on it.
I haven't attempted to update yet. I'm still on 4.4.4. I'm not going to update until I'm 100% sure that my phone will end up on 5.1.1. Even better if a safe upgrade path is created at some point.
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You might have answered this with saying Verizon is the only game in town but have you looked into Project Fi? It runs on Nexus devices and uses Sprint/TMo, I get a pretty nice employee plan with Verizon currently or I would gladly make the switch to Fi, a lot of friends back home in Michigan have and they say the service is awesome.
Still no 5.1.1 btw lol
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You might have answered this with saying Verizon is the only game in town but have you looked into Project Fi? It runs on Nexus devices and uses Sprint/TMo, I get a pretty nice employee plan with Verizon currently or I would gladly make the switch to Fi, a lot of friends back home in Michigan have and they say the service is awesome.
Still no 5.1.1 btw lol
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I'm not sure if that's available where I am. I'd have to look in to it. I too get a decent discount on Verizon through my employer, and I'm stuck on this phone until the end of October. After that, I'll do my usual looking at all of the options, to find the best one. Unfortunately, cell phone providers aren't that good where I live. None of them are as good as Verizon was when I lived in the Chicago area a few years back.
Last night after talking to Verizon tech support again about not having the 5.1.1 update, I factory reset my phone after backing it up, and once I had it restored I checked for the update, it was there. In case anyone still wants it that doesn't have it, give that a try. Samsung Kies worked well for my backup/restore.