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Android 5.0 , coming to the xperia Play?

I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new

The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...

Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.

I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.

Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.

crono141 said:
Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.

@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.

I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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[NEWS] Sony says Android 4.1 Jelly Bean plans for 2011 handsets were an “error”

Sony says Android 4.1 Jelly Bean plans for 2011 handsets were an “error”
From XperiaBlog post @ LINK
Original post @ Sony Mobile Blog HERE
So what do you think guys, Sony by saying "all" seems to lock them again into a promise they can't possibly break the third time and further piss all pissed Xperia users again.
Are you guys hoping for a possible Jelly Bean update at least to the Xperia PLAY?
Let us know through your comments!

I just hope they don't disappoint again !
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I believe they wont give us the jb update. Jb is an upgrade of ics. Hahahay. Getting hopeless with my xperia play stuck in my cabinet.
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From where did you read JB is an upgrade to ICS? :laugh:
All I read was that JB was to bring in more performance in addition to ICS features, so that basically means you don't need to be on ICS to have JB.
Think of it as GB=WindowsXP; ICS=WindowsVista; and JB=Windows7:
GB is fast but looks like turd, ICS looks awesome but slow, and JB looks awesome but fast. From that analogy, you can always upgrade from XP straight to Se7en, thus, you can always upgrade from GB to JB granting the manufacturer grants it.

Already posted.
Post # 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800195&page=3
But, probably should have made it a seperate thread to make it easier to find.

narflynn619 said:
From where did you read JB is an upgrade to ICS? :laugh:
All I read was that JB was to bring in more performance in addition to ICS features, so that basically means you don't need to be on ICS to have JB.
Think of it as GB=WindowsXP; ICS=WindowsVista; and JB=Windows7:
GB is fast but looks like turd, ICS looks awesome but slow, and JB looks awesome but fast. From that analogy, you can always upgrade from XP straight to Se7en, thus, you can always upgrade from GB to JB granting the manufacturer grants it.
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He's more on about the reasons of why Xperia Play didn't get ICS, gaming compatibility, JB won't change that, just adds to the problem of fragmentation.
Hardware/Software that's not supported in Vista wouldn't suddenly work in Windows 7.
Ending point is Google need to enforce some damn policies to stop the android fragmentation, I mean Sony launching phones in 2012 with GB is unforgivable.

Nah there we'l be no official jb for play...maybe other xperia phones but not the play so don't be getting your hopes up

Well. The devs of this forum managed to get touchpads to work properly on ics. So, I think that we should get an official update. If the dev's can make a stable rom with working touchpads, then sony can too! It will also perform a lot better on JB. We should make a petition!

Potato13 said:
Well. The devs of this forum managed to get touchpads to work properly on ics. So, I think that we should get an official update. If the dev's can make a stable rom with working touchpads, then sony can too! It will also perform a lot better on JB. We should make a petition!
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The ICS update was killed because games for our phone our NOT updated to work with ICS. We can thank the likes of GameLoft, EA, etc....
ICS was NOT killed because Sony couldnt figure out how to get touchpads working on ICS....... it was all because of poor gaming performance due to non-updated games.

jgregoryj1 said:
The ICS update was killed because games for our phone our NOT updated to work with ICS. We can thank the likes of GameLoft, EA, etc....
ICS was NOT killed because Sony couldnt figure out how to get touchpads working on ICS....... it was all because of poor gaming performance due to non-updated games.
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Aha ! good point
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no way
no hope on somy anymore
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no way
no hope on somy anymore

Yeah, we won't get ics, no hope for jb.
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Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)

narflynn619 said:
Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)
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Haha.......turd......
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narflynn619 said:
Yeah, well, people, don't get your hopes up. ICS being slashed off our upgrade list totally slashes off the possibility of having Jelly Bean.
But with Sony saying again the magic word "ALL," don't you think that would make quite a stir again if they abandon the Xperia PLAY, again, for the second time, after just saying ALL? Now that's cow turd more stale than X10 and Xperia PLAY abandonment issue all put together. (Ssshhh, I see a riot coming...)
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I think it's a little rash to assume that because Sony use the word "all" they actually mean all of them. What are they supposed to say, "all but the Xperia Play?" Or maybe list out every single phone that they actually plan on still supporting? All they have to do is say, "Well, sorry guys, we tried, but we didn't guarantee that it would work in the first place."
Honestly, stop expecting/hoping Sony to support this phone in an official manner and support the people in the community that have already done much more than Sony was willing to.

Sony should have at least released a finished version of ICS to us devs here but no.... they were scared away by not as many games working on ICS..... Well guess what? It's My phone and I should decide if I want the upgrade. Not someone else. As for JB, they should have at least come out and said "no we won't upgrade X phones". It would get us mad but not mad upset and angry for taking our hopes away...

I think the xperia play, can have jelly beam because jelly beam has more fluid that ics

That magic word "ALL" is for all Sony phones. Play is SE so don't count.
My missis has Experia Arc and guess what no ICS there either bur Arc S has...

What Sony doesn't realize is, if this gets jb, or even ics, the sales will go WAY up! That means more game companies will update! And they can ALWAYS have a
"we cannot guarantee a solid gaming environment, or that pre owned games will continue to run on your xperia play. Clicking 'I accept' will continue the update."
I would update! All I care about is minecraft (which is still gonna update) and emulators!
Point is, Sony is being stupid. We need to tell them that we want a nice, clean update, and that the game makers will follow their suit. And even if they don't, others will MAKE MORE GAMES! The ONLY thing I want other than jelly bean in general is more app space.

I'm pretty sure Sony will come in for us. I'm running a JB Rom and all games work fine. Sony just needs to work harder. Also yes minecraft does update more frequently now so yes they would add support for 4.0+
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Sony Xperia Z should launch with Android 4.2.1 (Jelly Bean)

I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.

GameKing95 said:
I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
I WOULD LIKE AN XDA MODERATOR TO MAKE A SONY XPERIA Z CATEGORY FOR DISCUSSIONS
AND MOVE THIS POST THERE
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act like a boss..LOL

GameKing95 said:
I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
I WOULD LIKE AN XDA MODERATOR TO MAKE A SONY XPERIA Z CATEGORY FOR DISCUSSIONS
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You do...do you now!! :silly:

You know, nothing would be wrong if they simply put GB on it, and then each month release a new major update (ICS, both JBs);
Because, the more Android versions a phone can handle (officially), the better it is for development...
The Nexus S is a perfect example;
GB>ICS>JB>JB.2.1

someone755 said:
You know, nothing would be wrong if they simply put GB on it, and then each month release a new major update (ICS, both JBs);
Because, the more Android versions a phone can handle (officially), the better it is for development...
The Nexus S is a perfect example;
GB>ICS>JB>JB.2.1
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Creating a major update every month is close to impossible. Well, actually possible, but then don't expect a bug-free and/or stable update.
Besides, why provide so many? GB is getting old already, ICS is still in use, as JB hasn't been around for very long. These 2 are just fine.

JB.2.1 doesn't exist for nexus s kindly check your facts before posting

GameKing95 said:
JB.2.1 doesn't exist kindly check your facts before posting
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I think he means jb.2.1 as in 4.2.1
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Read a few days back that sony would be releasing 4.2 immediately after releasing the Z

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I think he means jb.2.1 as in 4.2.1
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Yes I know that and 4.2.1 for Nexus S has never been released by Google

androidindian said:
Read a few days back that sony would be releasing 4.2 immediately after releasing the Z
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That's what they said to Xperia S buyers, too. ICS update immediately after the release.
And guess what happened:silly:
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I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
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I'm actually surprised that Xperia Z comes with 4.1, instead of 4.0.4. ROFL

Sv: Sony Xperia Z should launch with Android 4.2.1 (Jelly Bean)
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That's what they said to Xperia S buyers, too. ICS update immediately after the release.
And guess what happened:silly:
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I'm actually surprised that Xperia Z comes with 4.1, instead of 4.0.4. ROFL[/QUOTE
as far as I can see!!! no schedule only this
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It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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electrash said:
It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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So the Nexus 4 is running on pixie dust then? Of course there's drivers! The biggest reason is simply that during the months of software/hardware testing JB 4.1 would have been the current OS.. so that's what it's releasing with.
M.

electrash said:
It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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Go troll somewhere else.
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Warhero141 said:
Go troll somewhere else.
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Lol idiot.
Some recognized dev tell that, i only forward what he says.
Go use your ****ty brain with your mum
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nice thank u
nice thank u

Just to add something to those people.
Answer me which phone or tablet have android 4.2.1 exept nexus line?
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Just to answer you....
Nexus devices are running qualcom, nvidia and samsumg SoC's.
So tell me again these manufacturers that havent released these drivers you are waiting on.
No other devices have 4.2.1 because
1. 4.2 is buggy...look at the bluetooth issues for example
2. Updating UI to 4.1/4.2 needs more care as to not break your own UI features
3. 4.2 came so (relatively) soon after 4.2 that most manufacturers havent even finished up 4.1

waiting for this phone to release in india

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Just to answer you....
Nexus devices are running qualcom, nvidia and samsumg SoC's.
So tell me again these manufacturers that havent released these drivers you are waiting on.
No other devices have 4.2.1 because
1. 4.2 is buggy...look at the bluetooth issues for example
2. Updating UI to 4.1/4.2 needs more care as to not break your own UI features
3. 4.2 came so (relatively) soon after 4.2 that most manufacturers havent even finished up 4.1
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Yes i know that im not dumbass.
I asked which phone exept nexus line have 4.2.1
I will buy xperia z and i dont care about that update, i just ask those who want that.
Only nexus line have 4.2.1 and that will remain in that way for sime time.
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Android kitkat ? Does this include our xplay.I Wish

Hai guys.
I recently found a page on web that android kitkat is going to be updated for most of the xperia phones
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http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/506245/20130916/android-4-kitkat-os-18-smartphones-tablets.htm#.Uj583canqnQ
Android 4.4 KitKat will support more phones and tablets including ones which already aged long ago. Know the HTC, LG, Samsung and Sony Android devices which are eligible to Google's new Android OS.
HTC Smartphones
HTC smartphones are well known for its Sense UI which is virtually lagless compared with other Android devices out there. HTC imparted powerful hardware components and premium materials to promote stability and elegance. Certain HTC phones are qualified to get Android 4.4 KitKat and hopefully the company can push software upgrades to them soon.
1. The One Family including HTC One, HTC One X and HTC One X+
2. New Desire family released in 2013
3. Desire line up including Desire X and Desire V
4. DROID DNA, HTC J and Butterfly
Most of these devices have at least 512 MB of RAM and runs Android 4.1 Jelly Bean OS. Android 4.4 KitKat has been speculated to feature Linux kernel 3.8 for low-memory requirements.
LG Smartphones
Several models from the LG Optimus line are qualified to run Android 4.4 KitKat with at least 512 MB of RAM. Some of these units include:
1. G2
2. Nexus 4
3. Optimus L7, L5 and L3
4. Optimus G and G Pro
5. Optimus VU
LG remains quite if when they are going to push Jelly Bean updates to their smartphones and still unclear when they will announce official KitKat release.
Samsung Galaxy Line
Samsung's vast smartphones and tablets line up are expected to receive Android 4.4 KitKat as well. However, the company seems to stagger updates on their devices due to overpopulation.
1. Galaxy S4 line: Galaxy S4 original, Zoom and Active
2. Galaxy S line: Galaxy S3 and S2
3. Galaxy Note: Note phablets and Note tablets
4. Galaxy Mega 5.8 and 6.3
5. Galaxy Tab: Galaxy Tab 3, Galaxy Tab 2 and Galaxy Tab 1
6. Mid-range devices such as Galaxy Young, Galaxy Fame, Galaxy Mini and Galaxy Ace
Samsung recently decided to skip Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on Galaxy S3 and instead will push Android 4.3 to save time and effort. The company may also release Android 4.1 Jelly Bean to selected device but it remains unclear which one and when.
Sony Xperia Smartphones
Sony Xperia phones feature combined multimedia applications and Exmor camera sensors with fast processors from Qualcomm. The Japanese tech company is now developing Android 4.3 Jelly Bean for selected Xperia phones which be pushed primarily on the Xperia Z family. Android 4.4 KitKat is expected soon to arrive to the following devices:
1. Xperia Z family: Z original, ZR, ZL, Z Ultra and Z1 Honami
2. Xperia tablet S and tablet Z
3. Xperia mid-range phones: Xperia M, C, SP, L, S, SL, U and many more
Sony mobile devices are commonly equipped with 512 MB of RAM and a single-core Qualcomm processor.​

IMHO this isn't going to happen.
As you can see, Sony has never mentioned 2011 Xperia's for Jelly Bean updates, as they were made by Sony and Ericsson and since the partnership has been dissolved I do not think they will update some "dead" phones.
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False Hope, this is not useful for us Xperia PLAYERS.
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if it is false hope.thn i think we may atleast have more port options as other similar mobiles get the update
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Custom Rom
Can we atleast hope for some customs?

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Can we atleast hope for some customs?
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Yes, we can. Everything can be ported, so i think that we will taste the KitKat.
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I think it will not come to our plays
Like ics
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no way !

if sony doesn't, Cyanogenmod will
I believe that if possible, Cyanogenmod based on 4.4 will be available, though i have not read the cyanogen wiki / news about this recently.
if its compatible, then it would be nice to have 4.4 on this device.

I use to have an Xperia Play and I'm incredibly doubtful that you will ever get 4.4 even with custom roms. Awesome phone when I had it but it never even had ICS.
Currently have a Galaxy S3 and probably going to get a Xperia Z1 next.

hope it comes true )

actually someone posted on Android Development Thread wrote that he may do it for our xperia play.
here's the thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513088

ltkj said:
actually someone posted on Android Development Thread wrote that he may do it for our xperia play.
here's the thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513088
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OP just adding links to built from source roms as they rollout the official updates and wait for an official CM release.
The guy that mentioned xperia play only had 5 posts (so he's not a developer). I think you confused his broken English thinking he was saying xperia play 4.4 soon, when really he was asking for it to be done soon. It's typical for new members who don't know the rules or what's going on in development for the device. 4.4 isn't coming to XP, at least not until we can get more devs behind it, it's not even being worked on as far I know. I hope that clears things up.
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if there will be a 4.4 xperia arc rom, can be ported to xperia play as many roms we have? android 4.4 work great with 512mb ram devices
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we only need a working kernel.. once that's done.. we will get a working ROM asap. our kernel is Mid way.. just a little bit more and we are done.

Our kernel development is stopped as our main developer is not able to get touchscreen fixed and nobody else got it working. I honestly think that we will never have android 4.4, not even custom made @xda :<
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saqibkhan said:
we only need a working kernel.. once that's done.. we will get a working ROM asap. our kernel is Mid way.. just a little bit more and we are done.
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Well the device never even made it to Jellybean and only got a beta for ICS. Gingerbread is what this device was made for. It runs beautifully with it.
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olokos said:
Our kernel development is stopped as our main developer is not able to get touchscreen fixed and nobody else got it working. I honestly think that we will never have android 4.4, not even custom made @xda :<
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:crying: .. someone do it plzzzzzz.. if only I had enuf knowledge about it.. if only someone of you can help me Dual Boot Ubuntu with Windows 8 on my laptop.. I will start messing with the kernel to see if something comes up.. I might be a Senior Noob,lolz. but maybe I could try.

http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...id-4-4-kitkat-update-for-several-old-devices/
It's a rumor but... If samsung could do it maybe Sony will do this too

saqibkhan said:
:crying: .. someone do it plzzzzzz.. if only I had enuf knowledge about it.. if only someone of you can help me Dual Boot Ubuntu with Windows 8 on my laptop.. I will start messing with the kernel to see if something comes up.. I might be a Senior Noob,lolz. but maybe I could try.
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You should try wubi (ubuntu installer on windows) but yeah, if it was that simple to build a kernel then everyone would have done it
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Latest news Xperia Z will Receive 4.3 as well 4.4 too

Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4

Question is, when are they going to release the update?

I like it....
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davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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TOP!

EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4

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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...

pietrucci said:
Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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kingvortex said:
Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...

pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.

pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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xchasa said:
http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.

Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.

andyukking said:
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.

davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.

Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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