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[Q] Nexus 10 using 1gb+ RAM at all times?

Doesn't matter what Rom I'm on, cleanrom, aokp, stock, even after I close all apps and services all task managers tell me I am using at least 1gb
ALWAYS
Is this normal?

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I'd try 4.2.2 stock, I have around 400-500MB usage idle. On 4.2.1 (stock and custom) I had way higher usage though (700MB-1GB).
On 4.2.2 though I seem to have only 1.2GB of usable RAM whereas 4.2.1 had 1.6GB

I'm no pro, but if RAM 'disappeared' maybe it got reserved as GPU memory? And the GPU using it's own pool now would explain why you have less used up in general.

bee55 said:
I'm no pro, but if RAM 'disappeared' maybe it got reserved as GPU memory? And the GPU using it's own pool now would explain why you have less used up in general.
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Well the N10 is advertised to have 2GB of RAM. Prior to 4.2.2, we had 1.6GB usable, with the other 400MB or so (from what I hear) reserved for the GPU already. Now after 4.2.2, there's 1.2GB usable.
May as well just sold it as a 1GB device at this point... lol

espionage724 said:
Well the N10 is advertised to have 2GB of RAM. Prior to 4.2.2, we had 1.6GB usable, with the other 400MB or so (from what I hear) reserved for the GPU already. Now after 4.2.2, there's 1.2GB usable.
May as well just sold it as a 1GB device at this point... lol
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Lol but almost all devices usable memory for the user is about half of the advertised amount
As you can see my 1gb ram HTC amaze only has about half usable
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filthygoat223996 said:
Lol but almost all devices usable memory for the user is about half of the advertised amount
As you can see my 1gb ram HTC amaze only has about half usable
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Hmm, the only other device that comes close to this behavior that I've seen is the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (stated 1GB, has around 600MB usable). The display isn't nearly HD on that (1024x600 I think) so I really can't think of an actual reason for the 400MB loss there.
A Galaxy Prevail I have shows about 235MB usable, with 384MB stated.
Can't recall numbers on the Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab 7 though, but I really don't recall memory usage/free being of a concern.

espionage724 said:
Well the N10 is advertised to have 2GB of RAM. Prior to 4.2.2, we had 1.6GB usable, with the other 400MB or so (from what I hear) reserved for the GPU already. Now after 4.2.2, there's 1.2GB usable.
May as well just sold it as a 1GB device at this point... lol
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And the device does have 2gb RAM. You should know by now that the RAM in phones and tablets is versatile and used for more than just user space.
One could easily argue the counterpoint of yours, which is that 2gb of RAM means more for the GPU while still keeping a respectable amount for the user. But obviously, you need to do your research when buying.
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With some simple init.d and sysctl.conf tweaks you can have complete control over how the RAM is used. Search is your friend. Or at least it should be. LOL

It has to share ram with the GPU. This is monster resolution screen... Did you think it would have as much ram usable as a 720p screen? There's a lot going on at all times with this hardware because of the screen. Remember that ram is worthless if its not being used.
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They just released the updated kernel source for 4.2.2 for the N10 and there is a change where they up the ram reserved for the GPU by 384mb. The comment says they did this as otherwise when the GPU needed more ram it would cause fragmentation of the user space ram.
Geoff
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Sounds reasonable enough.

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Sounds reasonable enough.
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After having upgraded to 4.2.2... I have the same behaviour ....ram decreased to 1.3...in total before with 4.2.1 was 1.6...something strange, if the extra ram has been allocated for gpu....why with 4.2.1 wasn't like now?...in my opinion...they didn't free up the ram after upgrading..it's just locked...
I don't see notable differences between 4.2.2 and 4.2.1.... So that strange...could it be a bug?

borgy said:
After having upgraded to 4.2.2... I have the same behaviour ....ram decreased to 1.3...in total before with 4.2.1 was 1.6...something strange, if the extra ram has been allocated for gpu....why with 4.2.1 wasn't like now?...in my opinion...they didn't free up the ram after upgrading..it's just locked...
I don't see notable differences between 4.2.2 and 4.2.1.... So that strange...could it be a bug?
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The answer to why the total ram availible has decreased has been solved - Read gzub post.
Called it re-allocated, free'd up or locked, The GPU now has 800mb in 4.2.2 all to its self, where as before it had half that. So in running apps you will only see a total of around 1.2gb.
moving on...
I have a similar issue as the OP.
Sitting idle its running at around 400-500mb used but can, and often does, spike up to over a gb which causes it to not function correctly (Chrome especially seems to throw a massive wobbler and never stay open). I have nothing different installed than I have on my N7 or S3. I mainly use it for browsing, email. If I check running apps there is nothing else there above what was there when it was idling at around 400-500mb.
I have tried a factory reset and the issue still persists. Next step is to roll back to 4.2.1 to see if I can get the stability back as I didn't have these issues on 4.2.1.

VanCatRabbit said:
The answer to why the total ram availible has decreased has been solved - Read gzub post.
Called it re-allocated, free'd up or locked, The GPU now has 800mb in 4.2.2 all to its self, where as before it had half that. So in running apps you will only see a total of around 1.2gb.
moving on...
I have a similar issue as the OP.
Sitting idle its running at around 400-500mb used but can, and often does, spike up to over a gb which causes it to not function correctly (Chrome especially seems to throw a massive wobbler and never stay open). I have nothing different installed than I have on my N7 or S3. I mainly use it for browsing, email. If I check running apps there is nothing else there above what was there when it was idling at around 400-500mb.
I have tried a factory reset and the issue still persists. Next step is to roll back to 4.2.1 to see if I can get the stability back as I didn't have these issues on 4.2.1.
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Sounds you might be suffering from the same thing as I have since I got my N10.
I don't know how many have this or has noticed it but after a while the amount of free memory just starts disappearing and no matter what you do, you don't seem to be able to recover it unless you reboot. And when the memory gets low enough, the device soft reboots itself. I still haven't found the cause of this but I have finally found where all the memory is going. It turns out that it's the surfaceflinger process that hogs the memory. I started checking when I was running low on memory and surfaceflinger was at that point using over 400MB of it. My suspicion was confirmed when I rebooted and noticed that it went down to around 25MB and now after a while of usage, it has slowly climbed to 50MB.
It would be great if some developer could take a look at this in order to try to fix it.

CazeW said:
Sounds you might be suffering from the same thing as I have since I got my N10.
I don't know how many have this or has noticed it but after a while the amount of free memory just starts disappearing and no matter what you do, you don't seem to be able to recover it unless you reboot. And when the memory gets low enough, the device soft reboots itself. I still haven't found the cause of this but I have finally found where all the memory is going. It turns out that it's the surfaceflinger process that hogs the memory. I started checking when I was running low on memory and surfaceflinger was at that point using over 400MB of it. My suspicion was confirmed when I rebooted and noticed that it went down to around 25MB and now after a while of usage, it has slowly climbed to 50MB.
It would be great if some developer could take a look at this in order to try to fix it.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is surfaceflinger? I don't see anything similarly named on my device.
I've just downloaded 'usage timelines free' to monitor memory usage in more detail on all my devices and compare.
I'll try to update if I see anything interesting.

VanCatRabbit said:
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is surfaceflinger? I don't see anything similarly named on my device.
I've just downloaded 'usage timelines free' to monitor memory usage in more detail on all my devices and compare.
I'll try to update if I see anything interesting.
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It's a system process out of /system/bin/. Check your app to see if it's hiding system processes. Most of the process viewing apps/loggers hide system processes by default.
SurfaceFlinger is Androids compositor: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5699107/android-surfaceflinger
SurfaceFlinger shouldn't stay open though. Everytime I've seen it in OS Monitor the process lasts less than a second and disappears. Something he's running, or the ROM he's using is keeping it open for whatever reason..

styckx said:
It's a system process out of /system/bin/. Check your app to see if it's hiding system processes. Most of the process viewing apps/loggers hide system processes by default.
SurfaceFlinger is Androids compositor: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5699107/android-surfaceflinger
SurfaceFlinger shouldn't stay open though. Everytime I've seen it in OS Monitor the process lasts less than a second and disappears. Something he's running, or the ROM he's using is keeping it open for whatever reason..
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I noticed it with the "ps" terminal command. Currently I'm running Aokp but before that I was running stock. I'm suspecting the aosp browser or flash being the cause but I can't confirm it.
EDIT: surfaceflinger is shown in OS Monitor all the time but with ps I can see the amount of memory it is using.

After some monitoring I found nothing. I did a full refresh install of 4.2.2 from the factory image and have installed nothing on top other than applying updates for what comes as standard. After two days of browsing it started to slow down again and show as low memory. I installed a terminal and ran 'PS surfaceflinger', it was showing as using over 600mbs. Stupidly I didn't take a screen dump, but I imagine it will happen again.
Anyone able to shed any light on what's going on here?

Having the same issue
I too have seen surfaceflinger using almost 600MB of RAM. My used RAM was over 1GB and apps were running very sluggish. My SwiftKey keyboard constantly does a soft restart in the middle of typing when the tablet is in this state as well as other apps acting as others have described in this thread. Time for a fix Google!

High RAM usage?

On my Optimus G (which had 2 GB of RAM) the maximum available RAM at any given time was about 1.5 GB out of 1.85. On the G2, it's never more than 1.2. I've not noticed slowdowns because of it, but what's using so much RAM? Is the interface really that heavy this time? Or is there a glitch somewhere?
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Yea I noticed that too when comparing to my nexus 4, I have always wondered if GRAM has anything to do with it. If GRAM is eating up my ram but giving me better battery life then I am happy about it.
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

Don't worry about the RAM!!! Its there to be used! if it was to high we'd get all these high RAM threads.
As time goes on, apps and services are used. As apps and services are used the necessary pages are brought into memory and executed. They remain there until the minfree threshold is reached and then they are removed from memory. The minfree memory is usually 100-200 mb. This is a value that can usually be adjusted but of course requires root.
Some applications are poorly coded and may contain memory leaks. Find out which ones they are and delete them or contact the developer so they can fix and continue to monitor it if you need it.
Here is a good article but its a little old: http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care

Possible excessive ram usage with no apps running?

Just curious, but is anyone else experiencing 1gig+ worth of ram usage with no apps running? Just seemed a bit excessive to me for the system to take up over half the total ram in the device.. thanks in advance.
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Ghstudent said:
Just curious, but is anyone else experiencing 1gig+ worth of ram usage with no apps running? Just seemed a bit excessive to me for the system to take up over half the total ram in the device.. thanks in advance.
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What is your concern here? Do you run out of RAM when you start up all your favorite apps?
No, it's not an issue for it to use half the RAM for the system. Keep yourself from looking at it. It's fine.

People need to learn how android manages RAM, it uses parts for system and the rest is only freed from older running apps when needed, high ram usage is not a ISSUE! as a great dev on the xperia play section stated @CosmicDan "Free ram is wasted Ram"

Ghstudent said:
Just curious, but is anyone else experiencing 1gig+ worth of ram usage with no apps running? Just seemed a bit excessive to me for the system to take up over half the total ram in the device.. thanks in advance.
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I would think that if it works anything like a PC, then the more code you can get into RAM the faster it will execute as compared to having it pull/swap it from disk, or chip sets.

Ghstudent said:
Just curious, but is anyone else experiencing 1gig+ worth of ram usage with no apps running? Just seemed a bit excessive to me for the system to take up over half the total ram in the device.. thanks in advance.
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Mine eats a lot of RAM Too

fma965 said:
People need to learn how android manages RAM, it uses parts for system and the rest is only freed from older running apps when needed, high ram usage is not a ISSUE! as a great dev on the xperia play section stated @CosmicDan "Free ram is wasted Ram"
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True, but if you're using a custom ROM it could be a memory leak. I recently learned that *many* builds of CM10 for many devices (mostly Mali GPU ones) have serious memory leaks with hardware acceleration.

You can free 120-200 MB by disabling LG MIT
Type 3845#*802# (if you have the international version) in order to access the hidden menu. Scroll down to LG MIT and disable it

search how android uses ram, and you notice, theoretically (pun intended), why low free ram is not an issue(supposedly)
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CosmicDan said:
True, but if you're using a custom ROM it could be a memory leak. I recently learned that *many* builds of CM10 for many devices (mostly Mali GPU ones) have serious memory leaks with hardware acceleration.
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Yeah well this is obvious, But usually this is not the case, And Hello CosmicDan!

it's always around 850 - 950 when nothing is open on rayglobe 3.2
just wanna say something to reach 10 post for development access !

Instead of checking for low RAM, check the Running Apps list and find the offending app/service that is eating RAM. Then see if you can disable or remove it. It could be a memory leak from a bloat ROM app or one you installed. Right now I have 100MB free on my 1GB phone but its perfectly normal, because there are so many apps in background that I use. In fresh boot its about 300MB free, because apps like Facebook and Tapatalk run a service all the time.
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Why does nexus 4 use more ram then s3 mini

Guys my previous phone was s3 mini which had cm 11 installed. It used 400mb of ram and nexus 4 with same ROM 900. Can you explain that :0
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If the system has more RAM will use more of it because it will make things faster.
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N4 uses on avg about 400mb
You have a lot of cached apps? Facebook alone can eat up to 100mb
And why do you even worry? N4 has 2gigs of RAM....

When you start out with around 1.8gb of RAM.
Have to deal with the fact that once you get below 500mb of free ram the device turns into a lag fest. Add in the 400mb or so that just running the system uses.
What's funny is the pr crap from Google. Oh we made kitkat to run on lower end devices. We used a crippled nexus 4 with 512 mb or ram. Well they failed. The OS still runs like a three legged dog when it's "low" on ram.

Interesting..
Any way to fix this?
I used greenify on s3 mini.
But I guess I won't be needing that since 2gb of RAM plus snapdragon s4 pro is just too high for phone to lag.
Nexus 4 is still high end phone, right?
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albundy2010 said:
When you start out with around 1.8gb of RAM.
Have to deal with the fact that once you get below 500mb of free ram the device turns into a lag fest. Add in the 400mb or so that just running the system uses.
What's funny is the pr crap from Google. Oh we made kitkat to run on lower end devices. We used a crippled nexus 4 with 512 mb or ram. Well they failed. The OS still runs like a three legged dog when it's "low" on ram.
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Isus <3 said:
Interesting..
Any way to fix this?
I used greenify on s3 mini.
But I guess I won't be needing that since 2gb of RAM plus snapdragon s4 pro is just too high for phone to lag.
Nexus 4 is still high end phone, right?
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Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol
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I'm using CyanogenMod not stock and I don't mind about RAM but it's simply plain weird that s3 mini uses less RAM on same ROM and android version.
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Look
http://puu.sh/7Gc2C.png
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What would you do with free RAM instead of using it to cache and run services and system processes? Free RAM is wasted RAM

Isus <3 said:
Look
http://puu.sh/7Gc2C.png
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Idk man....could be your ROM, i'm on PA 4+....i had about 1gb used with note 2 TW........

Is Nexus 4 still considered as HIGH END device?

Isus <3 said:
I'm using CyanogenMod not stock and I don't mind about RAM but it's simply plain weird that s3 mini uses less RAM on same ROM and android version.
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Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
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Is Nexus 4 still considered as HIGH END device?
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Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.

arffrhn said:
Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.
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Okay thanks, btw whats that kernel you use? Is it better then CM stock kernel I get when i install it?

Isus <3 said:
Look
http://puu.sh/7Gc2C.png
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arffrhn said:
Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.
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5 hours of SOT is good for a 2100mah battery....and regarding the phone status, it's still a High end device.
Just because it doesn't work at 2300mhz or that it doesn't have a 1080p display it doesn't mean it's not a high end device.
It performs as a high end device, which is what is important. What is the point of 2.3 Ghz when my N4 can run lag free underclocked at 1.1 Ghz?
It's all marketing

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol
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You won't run out of RAM because android went let it happen.
The system / apps uses more than 1gb all the time. There should not be a need for root and greenify etc
You can see lag everywhere. It's there no matter what the die hard android fans say. The launcher lags in the widget selection part. Google plus lags and so on
Its funny how people see what the want to see. Most of the same people are also the ones that move on to the nexus 5 and say wow this is fast, I though the 4 was fast etc. They then immediately see the difference. Something you never hear from anybody going from a iPhone 5 to 5s.
To other posters yes in theory free ram is wasted ram. But it's not wasted ram when you need to keep around 500mb free to keep your system running as it should.
Again. On ios you can run right to you run out of RAM and make the app crash. You won't notice it until happens. On Android... Oh crap. There goes the lag fast. Clear all greenify and so on. All while having more than 400mb of free available ram. Which is more than you would have on a system with only 512 mb.

albundy2010 said:
You won't run out of RAM because android went let it happen.
The system / apps uses more than 1gb all the time. There should not be a need for root and greenify etc
You can see lag everywhere. It's there no matter what the die hard android fans say. The launcher lags in the widget selection part. Google plus lags and so on
Its funny how people see what the want to see. Most of the same people are also the ones that move on to the nexus 5 and say wow this is fast, I though the 4 was fast etc. They then immediately see the difference. Something you never hear from anybody going from a iPhone 5 to 5s.
To other posters yes in theory free ram is wasted ram. But it's not wasted ram when you need to keep around 500mb free to keep your system running as it should.
Again. On ios you can run right to you run out of RAM and make the app crash. You won't notice it until happens. On Android... Oh crap. There goes the lag fast. Clear all greenify and so on. All while having more than 400mb of free available ram. Which is more than you would have on a system with only 512 mb.
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Lol what are you talking about
I have no lag....not in G+, nor in Widget drawer.
iOS and Bada OS are similar. Bada 2.0 on my old Wave 3 was iPhone fast, and it only had 512 megs of RAM.
iOSBada & Android work differently.... what i've noticed that these closed source sh1ts have runtime similar to ART, hence they open up apps fast (even the Wave with 1.4 ghz single core & 512mb ram)

Isus <3 said:
Okay thanks, btw whats that kernel you use? Is it better then CM stock kernel I get when i install it?
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Whether it's better or not, I don't know because I don't use CM. Either way, it is good imo. You can try but not all phones are made the same. So, if it is good on mine doesn't mean it's good on yours too. You just need to try it yourself.
Note: If you are using CM, use the CM version.
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Mashed_Potatoes said:
5 hours of SOT is good for a 2100mah battery....and regarding the phone status, it's still a High end device.
Just because it doesn't work at 2300mhz or that it doesn't have a 1080p display it doesn't mean it's not a high end device.
It performs as a high end device, which is what is important. What is the point of 2.3 Ghz when my N4 can run lag free underclocked at 1.1 Ghz?
It's all marketing
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That is why my friend, read what I said carefully. I did say it performs really well despite not having all those specs you said. 5 hours? Yeah, on wifi I can get up to 7 hours but on 3g connection, not even close to that. Best I can get so far with 3g all the time is 3 hours. That's my opinion anyway, why should we settle on good when it can be great. I hope the next nexus (if google still make it) would have a bigger battery. That's all.

RAM Consumption bit to high???

What's the point of having 4GB of ram if the whole damn system takes about 3.5 gb living me with only 1.5gb useful. This is absurd! I will root and flash a custom rom just because of this. You know how SLOW our phones are running consuming more than half of ram??? Any way to fix this without root?
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nano303 said:
What's the point of having 4GB of ram if the whole damn system takes about 3.5 gb living me with only 1.5gb useful. This is absurd! I will root and flash a custom rom just because of this. You know how SLOW our phones are running consuming more than half of ram??? Any way to fix this without root?
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It's 3.5GB because the GPU needs 500MB allotted for itself.

What's the use of 4GBs of RAM if 1.5GB is not being used?
Android uses the RAM and kills things when it needs more. Idle RAM is useless RAM.
Plus 3.5 + 1.5 = 5.
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While this phone has a lot of ram and the management is much better compared to the s6 it's still not that great. The whole system does lag and feel bogged down. After clearing all the tasks it's smoother but apps will still close in memory and have to relaunch upon opening. I too am looking forward to rooting and custom Roms

_Dennis_ said:
What's the use of 4GBs of RAM if 1.5GB is not being used?
Android uses the RAM and kills things when it needs more. Idle RAM is useless RAM.
Plus 3.5 + 1.5 = 5.
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What he^ said.
There could be 6GB of RAM and the system is going to use it. That's what it's there for. Android is built to effectively manage what is using RAM to keep everything running smoothly.
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While I agree the RAM usage seems a bit high I haven't really seen any system slowdowns. I only clear out RAM these days out of habit rather than necessity and honestly I can't tell much of a difference in performance before and after cos it is a very fast phone.
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For everyone arguing with OP; The problem seems to be that there isn't enough ram, and the system keeps shutting things down instead of letting them run in the background. Either that, or the ram is being managed poorly, and apps are being closed instead of running in the background.

sireniankyle said:
For everyone arguing with OP; The problem seems to be that there isn't enough ram, and the system keeps shutting things down instead of letting them run in the background. Either that, or the ram is being managed poorly, and apps are being closed instead of running in the background.
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Phone don't slow down. I wish there was more ram but I would of liked if Samsung copied apple in which you can go back to the previous app 10+ apps ago and it's still exactly were you where, with less than 1gb of ram? I don't see why Samsung can't do this apple gots a slight edge in multi tasking. But we have multi window. There "multi window" sucks soooooo bad. Only like 5 apps support that feature lol
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