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Hi,
a problem that many might have:
I need a camera free device to go to work with.
how hard is it to dismantle the camera? do I need a full open heart surgery?
or is it almost plug and play?
Eysham
You're better off taking off the battery cover and putting electrical tape over the camera, then putting the battery cover back on. That way you should be able to slide by. I read that the camera doesn't come off... you'd have to break it off, I guess.
i dont need the N1 bad enough to risk getting shamefully fired...
if security demands no camera i need to be with no camera. no playing around sliding with duck tape...
where did you read about the camera not beeing detachable? do you remember?
eysham
eysham said:
i dont need the N1 bad enough to risk getting shamefully fired...
if security demands no camera i need to be with no camera. no playing around sliding with duck tape...
where did you read about the camera not beeing detachable? do you remember?
eysham
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I believe it was in the Engadget hands on review... someone asked in the comments.
thanks, but couldn't find it...
Why not just get a cheapo phone with no camera for work, and when your off work just switch the sim card to the N1.
same reason I dont want to drive a cheapo beatup 1977 VW beetle to work and save my new R8 Audi (I wish...) to weekends...
and all just because there is a speed limit in the work place's internal parking lot...
eysham
It must be almost impossible to have a camera free phone these days. 5 years ago I worked for a company where cameras were banned (car industry, spy photos of future models are common but rather unhelpful to the companies) but it was when cameras were only just being added to phones.
If I was still there now I have no idea what phone I would have!
No phones that have cameras have "removable cameras". Some may have cameras you can remove, but you will have to at least partially dismantle your phone and actually cut out (or de-solder) a working component to do so. If you do that good luck getting any kind of replacement if it goes wrong.
The no cameras thing is tough with phones. I had a job a while back like that. It was tough to find a phone that didn't have a camera back then. We had to go with Blackberrys as they were about the only option. As for sneaking around with it. That wasn't an option the guys that were checking had guns and the ability to lock you away for a very long time for breaking the rules. I would have been lucky to only get fired.
there must be a way to detach it though...
eysham said:
there must be a way to detach it though...
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The camera is not detachable because of the AF mechanism, it's surrounded by a metal casing that keeps the whole mechanism and sensor in place. Sure, you can remove it, but you won't be able to put it back.
You have 2 options
1. Leave the phone in the car ( should be safe in your compaies car park)
2. Get a small pin and drive it thourgh the lens, which will make the camera useless, and your employer can check if they wish.
Where do you work?
I'm thinking, a Cash center, at some air port, or some electronics company or a cleaner at MI5/6 / CIA
I think this link will confirm that there will be no way to remove it. The only option would be to destroy it.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/2
I will asume there is a cord which connected the camera to the mainboard.
in most of the case, the camera is just a modul. you can remove it if you dissemble the device.
Hide the phone up your arse.
How?
If you remove the camera and get your phoe "legalized" at work, how easy would it be for you to bring a new phone with camera two weeks later? Will they check it each time?
If they dont, some security...
great!! thanks for the info....
now have to decide...
Eysham
Put an iPod Touch cover on it so they can't see it...
THIS LINK WILL HELP YOU
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/1
You have seen the title so what do you think?
Personally i think that the deaths from crossing the road will blow up
google say that the "screen wont distract you but eff that it will also this is one expensive death root
I thinks it is more dangerous to look at your smartphone while crossing streets or driving your car and so on. If the userinterface is realy like the one shown in Googles newest video (see below) I don't think it is distracting.
belzebub40k said:
I thinks it is more dangerous to look at your smartphone while crossing streets or driving your car and so on. If the userinterface is realy like the one shown in Googles newest video (see below) I don't think it is distracting.
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Lovely. I think they'll do it. Amazing job, it'll be.
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You have seen the title so what do you think?
Personally i think that the deaths from crossing the road will blow up
google say that the "screen wont distract you but eff that it will also this is one expensive death root
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The same was said for car stereos and GPS units. They are all a distraction.
HUD(Heads Up Display) has been used successfully for years.
I can't wait to get a pair(?) hmm I guess I can't wait till I get one.
yeah, no thanks.
lol i feel like my eyes would do this after wearing these. and then i imagine the movie THEY LIVE . "put on the glasses!"
I honestly think it will be a bit distracting..
but not to the point where it is as distracting as looking at your phone and doing other things.
but it does kinda add another level of multitasking to your everyday lives. lol
anything can distract you: a noise, a bird, even a pretty woman. it depends on you and you lack of attention. i dont believe it can be that dangerous. maybe i change my mind when i get one
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The UI is just like Google Now. No movies, (at least stock UI) just information when and if you need it. Plus it's off to the side so it won't be directly in front of your eye blocking it.
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Odp: Google Glass The New pocket death tool.....
Google glass is cool but how it will react to other people ...
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I think it will be neat to try but not sure what the heck I would actually use it for
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It seems to me that everyone gets worked up when new technology comes out. People say its going to hurt our economy, kill people, make people fat. that has not stopped most people from getting products from this. yea I'm sure 4 or 5 people are going to get hit by a car with this product on, and I'm sure google is going to come out with a safety feature that stops notifications when crossing a road or something. The thing is i know you want one you just want to rag on it a little to see what people have to say about it before you go off and spend a but load of money on it and this information will give you ideas on the essay you need to actually buy one.
It won't be distracting. We always adapt to different technologies...if this was seriously a problem, I don't think AH-64 Apache pilots would have the best track record now would they.
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I love this tech, I hope they find a way to add the phone. I think the best way would be to connect wireless to the actual phone unless there is a way to be safe with the antenna actualy on the glasses.
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I love this tech, I hope they find a way to add the phone. I think the best way would be to connect wireless to the actual phone unless there is a way to be safe with the antenna actualy on the glasses
will it really work
Will it really actually practically work?? i have a serious doubt...
I think they are pretty cool. However I doubt I will buy these. Would be a cool toy to use and such. However I do not want to pay a hundreds of dollars for some toy.
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I think they are pretty cool. However I doubt I will buy these. Would be a cool toy to use and such. However I do not want to pay a hundreds of dollars for some toy.
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yes. i tought so man.
its cool. but if only can take pic, take video, search , etc. ( like what they reveal now )
i think $1500 abit pricy for this thing
I love the idea of these, but i don't think i'd wear them all the time. They'd be great when flying, especially if you could connect them to an ADSB system and other instruments on the aircraft. A cheap HUD for pilots, showing the horizon (from the proper gyro system), and showing colour coded icons where other aircraft are, etc. The same could be done when driving, i guess, and hiking etc.
I suppose walking through the city with these would be better than walking head-down nose buried in a smartphone, as everyone does now. But i don't know if i would use them in the city. Maybe if they looked like Spider Jerusalem's glasses i might...
Google Glass will revolutionize the world
This has been long overdue. I think they will be safer than cell phones. The voice recognition will take refining; but for the most part, this is an awesome step forward in technology.
You worry warts will see how nice it is when you actually get to use it.
The more I see people with their cell phones while walking, driving, and eating, the more I see the sense in glass and how I really feel like the idea in general will boom. Just like Google started the 7 inch standard, they are starting the glass tech trend
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i came from Htc one X and i was using kidigi car mount, and was nice because i just need to "dock" in the mount no need to "plug" the wire like in universal mount. i read here about wireless car charger but not sure, its kind expensive and im kind temted for htc one (and this phone does not have wireless charging capabilities) so im not sure if i should buy. i was thinking something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110978510653&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
i heard about clingo but not sure how many "uses" you need before the need for wash. so anyone knows a good car mount? should i buy for n4 or universal? if you had a link would be nice (ebay ) because amazon its to expensive to my country =X
Thanks a lot
zen kun said:
i came from Htc one X and i was using kidigi car mount, and was nice because i just need to "dock" in the mount no need to "plug" the wire like in universal mount. i read here about wireless car charger but not sure, its kind expensive and im kind temted for htc one (and this phone does not have wireless charging capabilities) so im not sure if i should buy. i was thinking something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110978510653&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
i heard about clingo but not sure how many "uses" you need before the need for wash. so anyone knows a good car mount? should i buy for n4 or universal? if you had a link would be nice (ebay ) because amazon its to expensive to my country =X
Thanks a lot
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I always go universal, personally. Because I can probably use the same mount down the road or my wife's phone can fit in it as well. The one you listed is good but also I like the iottie universal mounts as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iOttie-Easy...716445?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27cf4df1dd
These have the "gel" cups rather than the plain suction cups that easily warp in the hot sun. The gel pads are really sticky like the clingo, but the suction cup can be wiped clean with a damp lint free cloth to reconstitute the adhesive gel it uses. I use two different car mounts.
One is the Kropsson Aero which fits both my N7 (naked) and N4. I since cut the cushion pads down so that I can use it with my N7 with the Seidio Active case on lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AER-jumiss-...040?pt=GPS_Holders_Mounts&hash=item4605c94078
And my second go to mount is mainly for my N7, the Xenomix NX2000 because even though I can use the above kropsson, the N7 does slightly obstruct my view. This Xenomix hangs off the dash a bit and keeps the N7 out of sight and I can clearly see out. Another 'good' thing is that I can use this with my N4 as well. I say "good" because you can't charge the phone while using this, the ports are covered lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XENOMIX-2X-...der_Mounts_Stands_Holders&hash=item3f20968a39
There's my .02
kpjimmy said:
I always go universal, personally. Because I can probably use the same mount down the road or my wife's phone can fit in it as well. The one you listed is good but also I like the iottie universal mounts as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iOttie-Easy...716445?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27cf4df1dd
These have the "gel" cups rather than the plain suction cups that easily warp in the hot sun. The gel pads are really sticky like the clingo, but the suction cup can be wiped clean with a damp lint free cloth to reconstitute the adhesive gel it uses. I use two different car mounts.
One is the Kropsson Aero which fits both my N7 (naked) and N4. I since cut the cushion pads down so that I can use it with my N7 with the Seidio Active case on lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AER-jumiss-...040?pt=GPS_Holders_Mounts&hash=item4605c94078
And my second go to mount is mainly for my N7, the Xenomix NX2000 because even though I can use the above kropsson, the N7 does slightly obstruct my view. This Xenomix hangs off the dash a bit and keeps the N7 out of sight and I can clearly see out. Another 'good' thing is that I can use this with my N4 as well. I say "good" because you can't charge the phone while using this, the ports are covered lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XENOMIX-2X-...der_Mounts_Stands_Holders&hash=item3f20968a39
There's my .02
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thanks a lot, i will check aereo seems nice and the price its cool as well, the only thing i need check on my car its since i had long legs i usally put my seat a little far from dash (and the dash its kind far away by car model :S) the aero can stick on the wind and dash? imean i can put into the dash and then the wind and the again in the dash without problems? just cleaning the gel?
Thanks a lot i really apreciate
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thanks a lot, i will check aereo seems nice and the price its cool as well, the only thing i need check on my car its since i had long legs i usally put my seat a little far from dash (and the dash its kind far away by car model :S) the aero can stick on the wind and dash? imean i can put into the dash and then the wind and the again in the dash without problems? just cleaning the gel?
Thanks a lot i really apreciate
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The Aero is not meant to be placed on the windshield. In that respect look for the iottie's with the cushioned grips that can do both windshield and dash.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iOttie-Easy...686615?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a00ef857
This is the "one touch" mounts. Where you just press the phone back slightly will release the grips. This is similar to the Aero I have. I just don't like putting suction cups on my windshield.
ProclipsUSA
Best car mount?
If you want the best, be prepared to pay for the best.
http://www.proclipusa.com/
Look up the different DEVICE holder for the Nexus 4.
Look to find a mount suited for your VEHICLE.
I got the swivel mount for my accord and it came up to about $80. It's a bit on the pricier side, but these are truly the BEST mounts you will ever use, hands down.
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100% agree that Proclip (US name for Brodit) are the best mounts you can get. They're pricey but worth it.
I'm actually looking to sell my Nexus 4 mount with integrated charger, so shoot me a PM if you're interested in a bit of a cheaper price (you'll still need the vehicle plate). I'm only getting rid of mine since I've started using a case for my phone instead of going naked.
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Best car mount?
If you want the best, be prepared to pay for the best.
http://www.proclipusa.com/
Look up the different DEVICE holder for the Nexus 4.
Look to find a mount suited for your VEHICLE.
I got the swivel mount for my accord and it came up to about $80. It's a bit on the pricier side, but these are truly the BEST mounts you will ever use, hands down.
Regards,
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They are nice, my issue is that if I need a mount for my car and I can simply move from car to car without worry if the proclip will fit. From my understanding proclips fit a specific car model. So not really universal when you can use it in one model of a vehicle. So I'll need to buy two of these mounts to make it work and while worthwhile in the long run, 1. Is too expensive, 2. and what if I need to buy a new/different car for whatever reason?
And can you use different cases with these mounts? I see the one that can fit "some cases" but there's a limit there. A 40 plus 30 clip for each car, makes it about $140usd to be used each car.
Those factors alone, keep "ME" from buying it.
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They are nice, my issue is that if I need a mount for my car and I can simply move from car to car without worry if the proclip will fit. From my understanding proclips fit a specific car model. So not really universal when you can use it in one model of a vehicle. So I'll need to buy two of these mounts to make it work and while worthwhile in the long run, 1. Is too expensive, 2. and what if I need to buy a new/different car for whatever reason?
And can you use different cases with these mounts?
Those factors alone, keep "ME" from buying it.
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seems like the phones, new phones new cases and accs xD but yeah they are specific as far i see. iOttie seems good pick
They have a system to swap the mount from car-to-car but you'll still need the car specific mount in each car, so if you're constantly swapping they don't really make sense.
Knolly said:
They have a system to swap the mount from car-to-car but you'll still need the car specific mount in each car, so if you're constantly swapping they don't really make sense.
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oh i see, i dont really switch from cars" lol i will check how much and if they shipp to mexico =X
I use a ballistic case and the garmin gps holders grip it real well. There are two small cut outs in the sides of the case that aid in the grip.
They're only a few bucks on ebay or like $20 at best buy.
I'm using the Mountek mount that goes inside the CD drive. I don't use CD's anymore so it doesn't get in my way. I think it's a little pricey but totally worth it. Depending on your console it may get in the way of some of your buttons which it doesn't on my car. Also, some cars (such as my grandma's) have the CD slot lower in the console and the phone would be too low for me.
Mountek nGroove
I almost went with the Exogear Exomount 2 but I didn't think it would stick to my dashboard since it's textured and contoured a bit.
Exogear Exomount 2
I use the mount for maps and with a OBD2 Adapter. Now I just need the Jabra Cruiser 2 to go on sale so I can have a complete setup.
eliter1 said:
I'm using the Mountek mount that goes inside the CD drive. I don't use CD's anymore so it doesn't get in my way. I think it's a little pricey but totally worth it. Depending on your console it may get in the way of some of your buttons which it doesn't on my car. Also, some cars (such as my grandma's) have the CD slot lower in the console and the phone would be too low for me.
Mountek nGroove
I almost went with the Exogear Exomount 2 but I didn't think it would stick to my dashboard since it's textured and contoured a bit.
Exogear Exomount 2
I use the mount for maps and with a OBD2 Adapter. Now I just need the Jabra Cruiser 2 to go on sale so I can have a complete setup.
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yeah i was looking something like this on CD because my ibiza has too far the dashboard and it has inclined surface, seems the best its wind screen or CD, something that i want to know its "privacy" in middle of my car if a wild message appear or something i dont like people look at it. so its any way to move a little to my side?? (not talking abot 360 degrees) more like turn the holder to my side. i hope its clear this
Thanks
zen kun said:
yeah i was looking something like this on CD because my ibiza has too far the dashboard and it has inclined surface, seems the best its wind screen or CD, something that i want to know its "privacy" in middle of my car if a wild message appear or something i dont like people look at it. so its any way to move a little to my side?? (not talking abot 360 degrees) more like turn the holder to my side. i hope its clear this
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It doesn't slide but there is a considerable amount of tilt. You wouldn't be able to hide it from someone in the back seat but the person in the passenger seat would have to move in order to look at the screen. Again, this probably depends on how your console is set up, mine is dead center.
eliter1 said:
It doesn't slide but there is a considerable amount of tilt. You wouldn't be able to hide it from someone in the back seat but the person in the passenger seat would have to move in order to look at the screen. Again, this probably depends on how your console is set up, mine is dead center.
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im interested in passenger mainly thanks i will take a look seems its nice spot. when driving you had problems idk calling,waze and so on? watching the phone instead wind screen?
zen kun said:
im interested in passenger mainly thanks i will take a look seems its nice spot. when driving you had problems idk calling,waze and so on? watching the phone instead wind screen?
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The phone is at a perfect height for me. For maps I don't look at the screen very often because the turn by turn directions are enough most of the time. Calls are not perfect with the speaker phone or with voice commands (I have to scream to the phone) that's why I need to buy a bluetooth speaker phone.
eliter1 said:
I'm using the Mountek mount that goes inside the CD drive. I don't use CD's anymore so it doesn't get in my way. I think it's a little pricey but totally worth it. Depending on your console it may get in the way of some of your buttons which it doesn't on my car. Also, some cars (such as my grandma's) have the CD slot lower in the console and the phone would be too low for me.
Mountek nGroove
I almost went with the Exogear Exomount 2 but I didn't think it would stick to my dashboard since it's textured and contoured a bit.
Exogear Exomount 2
I use the mount for maps and with a OBD2 Adapter. Now I just need the Jabra Cruiser 2 to go on sale so I can have a complete setup.
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I have a similar setup in my Truck. I have a JVC head unit that has an external AUX port where my HTC Car Stereo stick goes to stream stuff from my N4 or N7. Use either Aero or Xenomix mount for my device, or none at all and to answer any calls, I use a Parrot Minikit Neo. This little guy goes to deep sleep and wakes up when the door opens or closes and I customized it with a greeting and signing off greeting which greets my 4 yr old when we get in the truck. She loves it lol.
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I have a similar setup in my Truck. I have a JVC head unit that has an external AUX port where my HTC Car Stereo stick goes to stream stuff from my N4 or N7. Use either Aero or Xenomix mount for my device, or none at all and to answer any calls, I use a Parrot Minikit Neo. This little guy goes to deep sleep and wakes up when the door opens or closes and I customized it with a greeting and signing off greeting which greets my 4 yr old when we get in the truck. She loves it lol.
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The Parrot Minikit Neo looks very nice. I wish it had an FM tuner though. I know it's not the best way to stream music but it's the only way to do it on my car stereo.
The Arkon Slim-Grip Ultra looks awesome, to bad I can't buy it yet in europe, will wait a couple of weeks and hope that it pops up.
silent assassin said:
The Arkon Slim-Grip Ultra looks awesome, to bad I can't buy it yet in europe, will wait a couple of weeks and hope that it pops up.
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The CD one looks nice as well, too many options not sure what should i do LOL xD
I think that the current solution to the module layout is inefficient.
The area of the partition (marked in yellow) itself equals to at least another small module, IMO, a phone can't have so much 'dead' space and the more features a phone has the better. The partition area and the magnets also add weight to the device which could otherwise be used for more features.
Secondly, instead of 'wasting time' on fancy new features that we've never seen before, they should focus on getting the phone and modules to work together and release it for consumers for now and then later focus on these bleeding edge tech.
Thirdly, if water will spill on the back they could potentially sip through the cracks and get to the connection causing a short circuit and oxidation.
Lastly, the more expensive parts and the time to assemble them means the consumers would have to pay more. The whole point of this project is to make smartphones more accessible by making this significantly cheaper than current smartphones.
I think a back cover with clips or some mechanical locking mechanism to hold all the modules would be a much better solution. It will probably make switching modules a bit more complicated but it shouldn't be harder than changing the battery on a current smartphone (like in the Galaxy S line), in Ara's case it would be like changing several batteries.
TL;DR: I think a back cover to hold all the modules in place would be a much better solution because of the 'dead space' of the partition, weight, water protection and cost.
I think that the modules would also make the phone quite annoying to hold with the current design - the modules themselves seem smooth, but the partitions between them appear to stick out slightly more than the modules themselves, resulting in a bumpy surface. If I do buy an ara phone, I will definitely buy/create a case for it if they keep the current design, purely due to the annoyances created by the lumps and bumps.
I agree
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I agree also. They probably have thought about it also.
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The frame does not stick out from the modules from what I saw till now.
I guess there will be back covers that comfort your hold.
I think they decided to use this method mostly because it is different and people will recognise you when you use it. Despite of that, it is significantly smaller than Xperia Z for instance and you should be able to hold it comfortably.
And I like the design, even more that you can print your own covers...
What I question is, how big the battery modules will be....
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Why not 3rd party TPU bumper cases?
That should do the trick, it will hold everything together + protection
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Just as I said.
But the point about water and safety is true... Maybe there will be done kind of "rubbers", ultra thin that tighten the gap between where the shell touches the endo? I guess things like that will spread if the ara becomes a hit
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I agree with the back cover idea but at the same time I do like the look of the design that they've done with it. As for the liquid damage worries, like keenofhiphop said about the rubber, the modules themselves will probably be sealed units with the only opening being the connectors which might make them somewhat waterproof hopefully
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They are definitely not waterproof. You could see at the first Dev con that is just a metal kind of box with a plastic shell, it's like a lunchbox made from aluminum: tight but not waterproof.
I, too, like the design. It's special and while it is the definition of pragmatical, it as well is unique and the fact that you can individually change it by printing shells tops off every other device around here. You don't like the design? Buy a cover...
I heard someone complain about the Epms and why they would not use any mechanics, but that way there will not be trouble with breaking connectors and warranty due to physical activity.
And they do not take up much space and hold tight.
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I think they did not considered the back cover as the primary idea here is freedom of changing the modules quickly and adding new features, like say your battery is dyeing so you replace it quickly with another battery module while on the other hand the back case will make it a little difficult and will cost a little bit of time.
keenofhiphop said:
They are definitely not waterproof. You could see at the first Dev con that is just a metal kind of box with a plastic shell, it's like a lunchbox made from aluminum: tight but not waterproof.
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They are not waterproof - yet. The pre-alpha modules are not ready for prime time. Judging them right now is a little silly. Who knows what will come in the months to follow.
Covers are a good idea indeed, but you never know when Ara might be partition less and actully support the idea of orignal Phonebloks? using Lego like stuff as modules and there base would go in the holes on the main body
I love the design of the phone for the same reason I have a clear window on my PC. If I help build something or if I play a part in putting it together or whatever the case may be, it makes that experience much more personal and I have a lot more pride in the device. If I'm proud of something, then I'm gonna show it off, its as simple as that. So I like the "raw" look of the phone and it's semi-exposed modules.
Yeah. Why not use transparent modules to show of the processor or so
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I think your supposed to be able to hotswap modules. I don't mind the current design, but it should have some kind of border that goes on the edge of the phone to secure the modules better.
Hotswap or not, they look like they could slide out with very little force. Dropping your phone and having to pick up the dozen pieces doesnt sound that fun. I dont think you should be able to remove your memory module without turning the device off and as such a shell somewhat like a galaxy or whatever would be ideal
The poibt of the EPMs is that they need quite a bit of force to take off, once locked they even demonstrated that...
the critics
Hello everyone,
from what I've read here i can see that some are still thinking the old way about a smartphone.
It should have every new feature and therefore a waste of space for borders is a waste of possibilities. Wrong!
Will you use your camera, high end GPU, LTE, flashlight, fingerprint sensor, WiFi, NFC, audio jack, HDMI port, USB port, speaker's and what ever else your phone has all at the same time? Or will you take pictures and share them over the internet, another time play a game on it and so on.
The medium sized model has 8 slots at the back, i guess WiFi and NFC can go in one, or even together with mobile and LTE. Another is CPU, GPU, camera, battery and sensors like gyroscope. Still at least one left. Maybe for another camera for 3D movies. Or a second battery so you can use it for several days.
If you don't need one, swap it with another one. They are not big, keep them in your purse or so.
Another thing was of they fall off easily. No!
They use electronic magnets to keep them in. When turned off they are very weak but strong enough to hold them in when you move and turn your phone, but nearly unremovable when turned on. A modified version of Lollipop will enable you to change most of the modules while the system is running. A weak CPU and battery are included in the Endo, so nothing will happen. You can guess you will have some kind of menu where you can choose which module you want to remove so the magnets turn off.
Why no backcover or pins to hold the modules?
Because they can wear off or even break. If you want to change modules often, like you have different camera modules for different occasions, a simple one for daily use, one with optical zoom and one with a big sensor for darker pictures, you will damage your phone sooner or later.
The phone normally is 9,7mm thick, same as normal smartphones, a cover would make it thicker. If you like one, get one. They surely will be available, because everything is modular.
It's not waterproof. Why is that a problem for you?
Every less expensive phone is not and this phone is designed for the 5 billion people who don't have a smartphone yet, because it's very cheap and customisable for every need. If you want it waterproof, there surely will be modules or covers available that guarantee you that, but they will cost a bit more, simple.
Why should the first version of a completely new way of handling the mobile hardware market put everything out at the same time. Get this piece of high-tech-art to work smoothly. That's what Google promises. And what they also promise is that everybody can participate in its evolution.
So if you have ideas on how to give that phone a new feature, think it through and try to form it into a sellable solution. This time you can not only complain and hope it's done better next time. No, you can improve it or even invent it.
It's time to use our brains finally!
I agree with that. It is not good enough
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xysawq said:
Why should the first version of a completely new way of handling the mobile hardware market put everything out at the same time. Get this piece of high-tech-art to work smoothly. That's what Google promises. And what they also promise is that everybody can participate in its evolution.
It's time to use our brains finally!
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Man, you summarised all what I wanted to say;
The project must start very simple, it's aimed to be sold for the majority of consumers, not adding x, y, x', y', x'' and so on... This way they'll lose a very large layer of consumers, for it requires more knowledge about electronics than the normal.
Afterwards there can be any accessories or additions as you guys want. The hundred step way starts with a step!
Got a preorder S7 Edge to upgrade an aging S3. Had an original S1 before that.
I turned it on and started using it (no pre factory reset wipe)...For some reason, my free Gear VR is still in the box unopened. I must try it.
Mostly, the S7 Edge is a great phone:
Camera is excellent in low light
General speed (using a Exynos version if that makes any difference)
Generally accurate fingerprint sensor
Exceptional battery life and good quick charge.
What's not so good (and the reason for this post to see if I can reach out to you guys for some help):
Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
Surely this is trivial to achieve in software. Yes I know you can record multiple fingerprints, but still.
If you follow John Carmack on Twitter, you will have seen a tweet on this
Now some software issues.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
"In 50 metres, take the ...."
"In 100 metres, turn ....."
It doesn't do it all the time, but as you can imagine, when it does, it's f*cking annoying, especially as I use the Nav on the bike sometimes where I have the phone just in my jacket pocket and I wear earphones to listen.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
Finally, this is the last expensive (over priced) premium phone I will buy...I bought the other half a Meizu m2 Note for Christmas to replace an OG Galaxy Note.
It was difficult at first as I had to install an English ROM and remove some crap, but the phone is pretty flawless and it makes me question spending the price of a small used car, more than the price of 4 sets of sticky track day motorcycle tyres, or more than the price of my American style large fridge freezer....on a phone.
If anyone has solutions to my issues listed, your help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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I do not use the edge touch all that much, but it seems like you need to swipe from the bezel, onto the edge of the screen for it to work every time, that works for me at least.
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I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
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Was the phone in direct sunlight, on a mount etc.? If so it makes sense why it would overheat while using GPS, if it was in a case and in a pocket etc. that might be the reason as well, since it wouldn’t be able to be cooled as well. They call it water-cooling, but it's actually a vapor chamber afaik, that condenses the cooling fluid in the heat sink part, as the heat is removed from the cooling fluid, and then lets it evaporate once again when it goes into contact with the parts that need cooling, at the other end of the heat pipe.
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The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You need to register your fingerprints where you do not just use the finger in one orientation, but multiple, I usually do the different angles that my fingers might be in when unlocking the phone. Having them at a 45-degree angle etc. since you can do a ton of different angles before it has "saved" your print.
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Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Couldn't agree more.. I felt I was the only one...
Edge screen is problematic... not many apps in play store for edge screen.
Another problem I found was automatically starting multi screen mode.. very annoying.. had to install an app just to disable it. No out of box way to disable it.
With my S3, I could specify call blocking using just a pattern.. (e.g. block all incoming calls starting with 0845) can't do that S4 onwards
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How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
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How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
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It takes some time before it overheats, and that is when its in direct sunlight.
Has anyone had the issues with Google Maps navigation?
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Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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Probably the protector. I have no problems with the edges on mine. None of the TGSP protectors are worth a penny.
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled? It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
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There's a fraction of a millilitre of liquid in there. It helps, but it works by transferring heat to a larger area of the phone's back. If that heat is trapped by a case..... I haven't used it on my motorcycle, but have had no overheating problems using Nav in my convertible.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You can store multiple orientations of your fingerprint when you set it up. Instead of holding your thumb or finger in one position and just moving it up and down, program the sensor with your thumb horizontal and vertical, and at angels in between. I can rotate my thumb 90 degrees and the phone still unlocks. All in one of the four storage locations. I have one programmed for my right thumb, one for my left, and the other two for each index finger.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Yep, this seems to be a bug. Quite a few people have encountered this, including me.
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
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I've not encountered this at all.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
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I'd have chosen a flat S7 if they made one with a 5.5" screen and large battery, but as I said above I have no issues with edge touch.
Quick update...
The recent MMB29K.G935FXXU1APF2 update seems to have cured my Google Maps navigation voice issue.
Also, the touch screen sensitivity issues are resolved by using the SGS Touchscreen Booster app.
It says that it only works on the original Galaxy S, but this is not true.
usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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Lol.. you can very easily scratch a screen in a day or not at all for years.. my S3 hasn't got a single scratch (touch wood) it's exactly being 4yrs today since I received it first....
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usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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The glass scratches easily.
I use a cheap Chinese screen protector (I have tried the expensive ones too and don't see the benefit).
I tried a tempered glass protector made by Olixar, but the company doesn't seem to test it's products together because it was incompatible with their leather case.
I sent the glass back for a refund and put another cheap screen protector back on, and so far no scratches. The back is a different story, yes even with the leather case.
I recommend at least to use a screen protector but also a leather case for some drop protection.
If the scratches are not too deep you may be able to remove them using cerium oxide powder.