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Hi all,
I had an accident and fell flat down to the ground with my TyTN in the belt pocket, exactly between my hip bone and the ground.
Now I have some more cosmetic plastic issues, but this would be acceptable. The bad thing is the Mail button is like a "sensor key" now, but works. The really bad thing is, the plastic speaker item inside (connected to the toppoly board, the speaker where the sound during calls comes out) is completely smashed and there's no more sound.
Since the rest is perfectly well, no screen damage (and no wrong alignments!!!) I would like to keep this phone but need a new speaker.
Could you guys help me to find such a speaker? The only part number on it is
501E6234A . It is a white plastic part, two gold connectors on the board side, a metal cover (now smashed) and a membrane on between the cover. You can see it on the attached pic, it's the white plastic rectangle in the middle.
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance and greetings from Munich,
Torben
Hi Torben...
Did you ever find a replacement speaker? I have the same problem as you and need one
Thanks
Hey Fallingonion,
I am sorry, but I don't have any good news... I was in contact with a German company that usually repairs all kind of mobile phones for sales companies. They told me since the device is still too new they haven't received any replacement parts yet. The only way to have it repaired would be sending it in to HTC.
I did that in December and am still waiting for it to come back - and what it will cost.
How did you break your phone?
Torben
I've seen a few parted out Hermes on ebay - you might try that.
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
kic said:
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
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I've done some digging around, and may have found a suitable alternative It looks like the Motorola L6 / L7 might use the same part...
I figured the speaker would not be unique to the TyTN - some other phone or PDA must use the same one - so I went looking for disassembly instructions for other phones in the hope that they might show the same speaker.
If you check Step 9 in this pdf you can see what looks like the same earpiece speaker (even though it looks like they may have unfortunately damaged it during removal - you can see the metal face plate is still attached to the front of the phone.) What do you think?
I've ordered one to see if it fits - I'll let you know what I find
I didn't actually break mine - I bought one from eBay, only to find that the earpiece distorted if you turned the volume up So I took it apart and found that the metal shield on the front of the speaker was dented slightly - I guess enough for the speaker membrane to hit it.
If the Motorola speaker works, maybe you can get your phone back from HTC before they charge you a fortune?
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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I'll let you know as soon as I get it - hopefully it will be soon
kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
mikechannon said:
Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
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That's what I'm hoping, Mike
The speaker in your photos looks exactly like the one in the TyTN - are they of the TyTN earpiece or the Motorola one?
EDIT by Mike - The pictures above are of the TYTN fron speaker/earpiece. And we now know the Motorola L6/L7 does work as a replacement.
I know that it is a complete offtopic ... but this is the reason why I use the aluminium case for my Vario II it just saves lifes ..
Just as an update - the replacement Motorola speaker that I was sent works fine
It was not a perfect match for the old one - it was necessary to slightly bend the contacts outwards to make sure that they made proper contact with the pads on the circuit board - but other than that replacement was simple. Sound quality of the new speaker is fine, and seems a bit louder than the original, although I could be imagining that
In case anyone else has the same problem, the only place in the UK that I could find advertising the necessary part was Phatphones (see "Speaker/Earpiece for Motorola L6/L7" on this page.) The part was quite expensive compared to other replacement speakers, but as I said it was the only one available.
Cheers all -
When your speaker out of order, did you try to using the orignal headset? I have the same accident as you did. But ,There is no sound at all.I try to using the orignal headset, but still don't work. I am not sure , if it is the speaker problem or the sound IC problem. Now. I can only using the Bluetooth headset.
Hi ! I`ve dropped my S4 on the floor the other day and since then i noticed that my front camera fails to focus. It`s something like 1/4 of the image is being focused while the rest is blurry. The whole image does become clearer if i put an object in front of the camera at about 2-4cm.
Is there a possibility that the little flex cable jumped out of its socket? Or is the camera broken ?
Either way i`m hoping that someone could PM me with a few links on sites like ebay.com or ebay.co.uk with what i should buy to replace or fix the camera.
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Anyone ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Fro...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item19e04a4e4c
For a start...
The Galaxy S6 uses the same camera sensor as the note 4, but the S6 camera module has a slightly better lens. I use my phone for all kinds of product pictures and scanning notes/ lectures at school so I gotta have the S6 camera in my note 4. I'm going to document my swap here.
I just received my S6 camera module $20.00 from ebay G920F is the S6 model and 16M is the mega pixels the sensor captures. I'm still researching the video limit removing hack especially increasing 4k capture time from 5 min to 30 min. Heres my new sensor, I'm waiting on amazon to ship some disassembly tools I've been sorely needing. It's about time I had a real sprudger and not a harbor freight nylon body panel pry bar.
Pic of new sensor.
Let me know how it goes I've been thinking on doing the same thing
From what someone said samsung said the camera want work in n4 the to the software not compatible with the 2 phones. Let us know if it works along with some sample pics showing the improvement or issues.
Following!
Hmmmm this will void your warranty................I'm reporting to Sam sung
Sent from my: SM-N910T/SQC100-4 T-Mobile 4G LTE
^Hahahaha that got me rolling
Did this work?
So I want to say this is one of the hardest phones I've ever opened. I have a bunch of video footage I took and have not yet edited any of it. If you're super impatient I'll give you the super fast rundown without any details. Yes it works, but it isn't plug and play. The sensor is the same but the circuit board it is mounted on is not the same. The S6 camera module won't fit into the cutout made for the note4 camera module. What I ended up doing was removing the optics from the S6 camera lens, and swapping the actual lens portion of the camera module onto the note 4 sensor board, I'm waiting on gold foil tape from amazon to repair my EM shielding that got tore up by the glue. The note4 is entirely glued together. I'll post up pics and videos a bit later when I get more time. You can see the S6 CCD sensor and board there, I just snapped it since it was in my way and I couldn't fit it in my phone without cutting up my motherboard. I got the optics from it and stuck those in my phone. The photos are shot from my S4 which I'm using while I wait for foil tape from amazon. I have not gotten to test the software compatibility because my phone is still apart.
Another difference is in these little rollerballs inside the lens. I imagine they have something to do with focusing, The note 4 has 3 white ones in each rail you can see one in the photo it's the white sphere in the bottom of the magnetic generator part of the module. The S6 has smaller black ones as well, you can see in photo too. The note 4 doesn't matter on the arrangement of rollers, but the S6 has different roller arrangement and I wasn't expecting to find those so I don't know if I lost some or put them in the wrong order, I have to get another S6 camera module to investigate that if it matters
tl;dr you can swap the optics but it isn't as simple as you'd hope
This is pretty hardcore, I have to say. I was thinking whether or not this would work in my head, and now we have someone crazy enough to actually try it.
auto focus has some issues, but if I let it autofocus then move the camera manually I get a really nice clean shot. Noticing the phone gets pretty hot right behind the memory card slot, I'm wondering if I need thermal paste or something back there, but I put the phone back together and everything is ticking along just fine, I'm going to order another s6 camera module so I can pay attention to the order and composition of the rollers maybe that matters too. If that doesn't work then I'd say while the sensor may be the same apparently the board that drives the electromagnets is different and therefore this won't work since that board will not fit unless there is someone who can fashion an adapter cord to go between the sensor board and the mainboard thus allowing repositioning of the sensor board. I'm going to see if there exists some sort of "extension cord" for this type of connector. Basically I just need a bit of ribbon cable to give me a little flexibility in positioning the board and I can just plug and play the S6 board in there since I dremeled out my subframe a little.
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auto focus has some issues, but if I let it autofocus then move the camera manually I get a really nice clean shot. Noticing the phone gets pretty hot right behind the memory card slot, I'm wondering if I need thermal paste or something back there, but I put the phone back together and everything is ticking along just fine, I'm going to order another s6 camera module so I can pay attention to the order and composition of the rollers maybe that matters too. If that doesn't work then I'd say while the sensor may be the same apparently the board that drives the electromagnets is different and therefore this won't work since that board will not fit unless there is someone who can fashion an adapter cord to go between the sensor board and the mainboard thus allowing repositioning of the sensor board. I'm going to see if there exists some sort of "extension cord" for this type of connector. Basically I just need a bit of ribbon cable to give me a little flexibility in positioning the board and I can just plug and play the S6 board in there since I dremeled out my subframe a little.
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So more or less it works with minor issues?
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So more or less it works with minor issues?
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Uh I would say less. Auto focus flat out isn't working. The lens isn't getting positioned correctly relative to the ccd, this is a software issue or a hardware issue. The video is producing right now. Guess I should start taking some footage showing the problems. Just finished doing the swap video. This is only my second youtube video so I'm learning. I'm a filthy casual =P
Video should be produced and uploaded to youtube in an hour so sayeth the progress bar.
Off to the gym back in like 2 hours. Depending on how automated cyberpower is with youtube I'll have a link for you guys.
AAAND I forgot sound, man im a scrub I'm gonna postpone gym its too hot right now anyway.
Gutsy! My note 4 will not autofocus at all. Im interested if you think it is hardware or software. I have dropped it once. Could that have damaged these balls you are talking about?
Maybe or jammed it, the sensor is just free floating in there with 1 permanent magnet on each side of the optics carriage (the part that actually contains the glass lenses) then in the plastic housing there are what I think is 4, 2 coil electromagnets, one on each side that float the sensor to the correct position while it rolls on the little rollers in the two V grooves to keep it perpendicular to the ccd.
This is a photo of the S6 sensor, the note 4 sensor you can see in the video. Note 4 sensor has 6 white rollers total 3 for each Vgroove S6 has atleast 1 white 1 black for each but I may have lost some because I opened that sensor first and wasn't expecting tiny tiny rollers to be inside.
Okay learned a lot still a lot to learn about making videos.
Here is the video of the complete teardown with some commentary about what I'm doing. Gives you an idea of what you'll be up against in there and shows the disassembly of the camera module.
http://youtu.be/UC8sgsB4zGw
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Uh I would say less. Auto focus flat out isn't working. The lens isn't getting positioned correctly relative to the ccd, this is a software issue or a hardware issue. The video is producing right now. Guess I should start taking some footage showing the problems. Just finished doing the swap video. This is only my second youtube video so I'm learning. I'm a filthy casual =P
Video should be produced and uploaded to youtube in an hour so sayeth the progress bar.
Off to the gym back in like 2 hours. Depending on how automated cyberpower is with youtube I'll have a link for you guys.
AAAND I forgot sound, man im a scrub I'm gonna postpone gym its too hot right now anyway.
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You never skip the gym bro lol. For that you owe me a heavy set of 30 of squats or deadlifts
Okay so the extension cord idea has been done, I'm hoping I can find the connector easier than he did for LG
https://zavax.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/extend-the-3d-stereo-camera-module-of-lg-thrill-phone-p925/
how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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Umm this phone doesn't have a terrible audio. For a phone is actually amazing. No its not studio quality for no complaints for a phone....clearly you haven't compared it to other phones. No hate.
jonyolea said:
how is audio on video recording? I have soo many issues with audio with this phone, Im a pro singer and I record my live concerts for references but audio is soo bad, it have a lot of noise, like it have some kind of noise reduction that when music is louder, the sound of the video decreases and its gets choppy with a lot of noise, been researching about it and asking about it everywhere here in xda and can't find solution :/
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I considered a similar situation when trying to use my phone as a decibel meter to measure how loud my car exhaust was. I was getting complaints from one of my neighbors about my wrx being too noisy so I ended up measuring it with my phone. It didn't work because the microphone on these phones is chosen and calibrated for its sensitivity to the noise a regular human voice makes when the phone is reasonably close to a human mouth. Using the phone in a "live" environment or somewhere there is a ton of background noise or amplified vocals or other sources of noise outside of its specs will likely interfere with your recordings. You'd need to test it in a more scientific way to narrow down the problem try isolating if all recordings are ruined or just really loud ones or if even the choppiness could be caused by processing power and too many background apps or something.
Im getting an obvious rattling sound right around where the camera is on the 6P when I tap pretty much anywhere on the phone, front or back, doesnt matter.
I tried to pinch the top right corner between my fingers, pretty hard actually, and then tap on the phone again, and the sound ALMOST goes away. Loose component?
Anyone else have the problem?
Yeah i believe the newest update fixes rattling noises and adds band 12 for tmobile users.. battery improvements too
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chevycam94 said:
Im getting an obvious rattling sound right around where the camera is on the 6P when I tap pretty much anywhere on the phone, front or back, doesnt matter.
I tried to pinch the top right corner between my fingers, pretty hard actually, and then tap on the phone again, and the sound ALMOST goes away. Loose component?
Anyone else have the problem?
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Same here. Used to have this issue with the N6, many said it was the OIS. Seeing as how this phone lacks OIS, perhaps its a loose component.
I'm hearing this also. I think it's the camera but mine works great no problems at all.
When I owned the iphone 5 it had the same sound and it was the camera module. So no biggie. If I get any problems with the camera I will surely ask for an warranty replacement.
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Same here. Anybody tried to replace phone because of that?
I have it too. No biggie as long as it doesn't affect performance. I more worried about the pink hue on lowest brightness setting (adaptive display on)
I decided that it was so loud and obnoxious, I did an RMA on it. Replacement will be here tomorrow. Will see if the new one has the same issue. I would normally open my own phone to fix the issue myself, but with a 3/10 repairability score, Im not likely to touch it. If the second one does it, I guess I'll live with it.
My previous phones all had this except N6. All our iPhones suffer from it. Not sure what it is though
If it helps any my Galaxy s5 has this.. I noticed it after changing from a an S3 that never did, it ended up being normal on the s5, something do with camera something in there jiggles or rattles a bit.. espically if i just shake the phone i can hear it.. never had a problem tho..
I have the same noise in my 6P and I tell you what it is, is the camera auto focus let's I side hitting the body of the phone when you toss it around and when you put it on the table. It should of had more space in between the camera lens and the body of the phone. Because the lens moves when it auto focuses and any camera with auto focus will have some play when you move the phone, because if the moving parts, the space inside the phone around the camera is so o tight, it touches the body. I hope it will not damage the camera with time.
Every phone with a camera will have this. The lens needs a few mm of empty space to move back and forth to focus. It's basic optics. Nothing you can do about it.
I too have this problem. The rattling sound is loud and clear.
As few of the customers are having this issues, I believe it is a manufacturing defect. I will ask for replacement as I can not bare with such issue. Had spent huge money on phone, why should I compromise and get settle? Need Replacement.
Anyone get a replacement for this yet? Is the rattle still there?
I sent back my 1st 6P for a defect in the screen, got my new one yesterday and it's got this rattle everyone here is talking about - I don't remember my first one having this? When I squeeze with a little pressure, it goes away. I called and have a replacement coming, but with EVERYTHING else on the phone being almost perfect, it scares me if this is the normal?? If it is, I'll keep my current 6P and live with the rattle.
I'm on my third 6P now and all three have had this rattle. It's just the camera. I have a N4 in front of me which has a rattle when tapped around the camera, so did the Galaxy Nexus. I'm sure the N5 had it too. N6 didn't, maybe because it had OIS?
I'm sure it is just the camera elements. If you start the camera app and tap there the rattle is almost non existant. Probably because the autofocus is active and holding the optical elements in place.
My 6p doesn't rattle. RMA?
Rattling sound in Nexus 6P
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My 6p doesn't rattle. RMA?
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I also have this rattling sound in my Nexus 6P. I tried to investigate it (without tearing it apart) by going to ifixit. If one examines the back portion around the camera, there is a white wire that runs across almost the entire width of the phone (checkout the image here: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/ZlpUoq3OjhHJsqTo.huge). This wire, I'm not sure if it is glued to the motherboard or body and hence might be the reason behind the rattling noise. I hear this rattle when I gently tap the area around the camera or when I casually keep the phone on a hard surface (without being extremely gentle about it which I believe no one is).
If this wire is lose ( not carefully attached to the metal cover which holds the 3.5mm headphone jack and the front camera ), you might hear it bounce against the metal.
This isn't a problem. I have in my desk my 6P, a OnePlus One, a Nexus 4, an original Moto G and a Nexus 7 2013 and they all do the exact same rattle when I tap them near the camera. The rattles ceases or decreases when I open the camera app and the devices' cameras focus.
Edit: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/support/faq/?action=singleTopic&topic=FA141722
http://www.samsung.com/ie/support/skp/faq/1053560
I'm pretty sure the camera makes this sound. I've had 2 6P's and they both made this noise when I either tapped on the phone or go to put it down on a table.
Hey,
Just wondered what your thoughts on aftermarket front camera's are. My front camera has just started playing up in the last week or so, a couple of little artefacts which are captured by the sensor. I'm guessing the sensor is perhaps damaged, although it could just be dust I guess? Maybe I'll take it apart and have a look today.
Anyway,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-FRONT...550323?hash=item3aafccfdf3:g:2XoAAOxy69JTFJm9
99p for a front sensor, anyone got any experience with these?
Doesn't matter, found a place selling second hand original ones for £1.99. Worth paying the extra pound for guaranteed quality.
That link says "Front Facing Camera Flex Cable". By my understanding that means it's just the cable, not the camera itself.
Be careful with the phrasing.
GDReaper said:
That link says "Front Facing Camera Flex Cable". By my understanding that means it's just the cable, not the camera itself.
Be careful with the phrasing.
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I would expect the whole lot to be there, especially as it's photographed. It's become the thing to call everything that requires a flex cable, a 'flex cable' even though it's more than that. Plus, you can't really replace the flex. It's sort of glued to the base camera, as I found out today when I removed mine and it fell apart.