[Q] How to test the Nexus 10 - buying used - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Everyone,
I am not too familiar with the nexus 10 tablet so I want to ask for some tips and tricks on buying this device used..
For samsung device, I know I can type in *#0*# and I can test the LCD, sound, camera...etc.
Is there a similar mode for the Nexus 10 that would allow me to test these things? If not, what alternative method do you suggest? What are some common issues with this tablet I should look out for?
Any help is much appreciated! Thank you!!
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oskai said:
Hello Everyone,
I am not too familiar with the nexus 10 tablet so I want to ask for some tips and tricks on buying this device used..
For samsung device, I know I can type in *#0*# and I can test the LCD, sound, camera...etc.
Is there a similar mode for the Nexus 10 that would allow me to test these things? If not, what alternative method do you suggest? What are some common issues with this tablet I should look out for?
Any help is much appreciated! Thank you!!
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Well one big issue is light bleed. It isn't too noticeable except for on high brightness on full screen. Its usually in corners and almost every nexus 10 will have it. You can use light bleed test app to look for it. Sadly my nexus 10 has lots of it but I don't feel like exchanging it as most people say it barely gets better. Anyways if you don't look for it you most likely won't. Notice it
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The nexus 10 does lag on some games, I'm guessing its a hardware issue since I've tried lots of roms and kernels. Other than that its a great device. Very solid, well built. Battery is pretty impressive with custom roms/kernels at least. No micro sd card slot sucks, but at least we have usb OTG with support from xda. I definitely recommend the 32gb, of course! Good luck to you on your purchase

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[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
A little pro for you is the support of the users here in xda
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!
I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.
Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.
Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.
I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
PantechBurstOwner said:
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.
I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Should I buy One

Hey Guys, I'm considering buying the Nexus 7 and was hoping to get some opinions on it vs the other 7'' tabs out there. Any pros / cons, battery life.. stuff like that. Thanks for any help
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+7+reviews
Most people here will say yes, seeing as it's the Nexus forum. Read/watch your own reviews and make up your own mind.
I would also say "yes", however. It's a great little device.
I had an iPad 3. I love the size of the Nexus 7. The screen is not as bright and vivid, but I still ended up selling my iPad and keeping the Nexus 7.
I figured I'd get mostly positive opinions, after watching / reading all the reviews I figured I'd try to solicit some good honest user generated feedback. Sometimes you read the reviews and its hard to tell if they have an agenda associated with them. Thanks for the feedback!
I just sold my TouchPad which was running a solid version of CM9 and gave my wife my Nook Color which is running CM10 in favor of my Nexus 7. After a year with a 10" tablet and a couple of years with the Nook Color I determined that the 7" form factor works best for me. I prefer the build quality of the Nook Color over the Nexus but I like the size of the Nexus and of course the updated hardware specifications better than the Nook. I haven't put my Nexus down long enough to establish the battery life under normal conditions (I have only had it for 10 days) but it seems reasonable. The first few nights it drained more than I wanted with the screen off but after turning off sync on various applications, the GPS (when I am not using it), and setting the WIFI to sleep when the screen is off it holds it's charge pretty well. Rating: :good::good:
I came from a 10" touchpad. I rarely even use my laptop anymore. So rarely my girl wants me to sell it. I love my tab...its perfect.
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Love it, have no regrets, does seem pointless at times but never use my laptop anymore. Just my desktop or this badboy
I had my N7 since July and it took me a few days to like the smaller size but now I love it. There is only one App on my Apple that I want that isn't on Android but it is a game and not a big deal.
For $250 you can get 32GB N7 or for $299 32GB w/ cell modem that are all cheaper than any iPad. N7 has a lot of specs better than the new iPad Mini that would cost $559 to match the same features as the $299 N7.
Thank you guys for your input I def appreciate it. I'm by no means fluent at all things android but I do love to have a rooted device. I rooted my S3, is its similar or more difficult to gain root access and would you say there are a decent amount of Roms to choose from?? Thanks again
It's SUPER easy to root and unlock a nexus 7 just use wugsfresh toolkit
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The Nexus 7 is great.
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okay to good as standalone device. GREAT when it's connected to wifi.
It has been more than enough for web browsing compared to using my phone, and for gaming it is great.
you should wait a week or so and get the 3g version.
Thanks for the opinions guys! I Think I will def. pick up the 7. Is the 3g one going to be available for Verizon? I saw something about it coming with ATT and you can get pre-paid Data cards is that the only option?

[Q] Nexus 4 or galaxy s3 today...plz help guys

I m planning to buy galaxy s3 i 9305 or i9300 or nexus 4 but i am really confused.please help me. i have heard that almost everyone that owns a nexus has a yellow tint or yellow patch problems.are there any who got rid of it and moreover nexus has a battery life disaster and supports otg only with power.on the other hand s3 has less configuration,less custom roms and mods but is better with battery and screen issues.
Now the price is almost same for both the devices.
keeping the current issues and solutions in mind,please reply as i have to purchase one soon.
Regards
coolkakucool said:
I m planning to buy galaxy s3 i 9305 or i9300 or nexus 4 but i am really confused.please help me. i have heard that almost everyone that owns a nexus has a yellow tint or yellow patch problems.are there any who got rid of it and moreover nexus has a battery life disaster and supports otg only with power.on the other hand s3 has less configuration,less custom roms and mods but is better with battery and screen issues.
Now the price is almost same for both the devices.
keeping the current issues and solutions in mind,please reply as i have to purchase one soon.
Regards
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Battery life disaster? I'm getting excellent battery life. Of course I use a custom kernel. As for the yellow tint, you can use a custom kernel with a application which you can tweak the colors to your desire. Over here in the Nexus 4 forum, we have lots of developers working and updating their work for the community. There are always improvements. You can enjoy freedom or get clogged with a bloatware. The Nexus 4 is the way to go. You're going to love it.
I just want to add something. You have to keep in mind that battery life depends on your usage, if you play games on your phone very often you will have a short battery life. I'm not saying you shouldn't play. It's pretty much all common sense.
coolkakucool said:
I m planning to buy galaxy s3 i 9305 or i9300 or nexus 4 but i am really confused.please help me. i have heard that almost everyone that owns a nexus has a yellow tint or yellow patch problems.are there any who got rid of it and moreover nexus has a battery life disaster and supports otg only with power.on the other hand s3 has less configuration,less custom roms and mods but is better with battery and screen issues.
Now the price is almost same for both the devices.
keeping the current issues and solutions in mind,please reply as i have to purchase one soon.
Regards
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my nexus 4 didnt have a yellow tint .... it has WARM colors yes so whites for example are closer to yellow instead of that blue COLD color, but i havnt heard of a tint , i ordered mine in february if it makes a difference.
EDIT like above post said , with a custom kernel you can tweak the colors , so its not even bad
I've had no issues with yellow tint or screen.
Faster than s3 ,better graphics (andro 320) better screen (IPS display)
But has only 2 models 8 & 16gb no options for micro SD card.
To me the nexus 4 feels high quality like an iPhone does in your hand.
Battery life is not that bad see attached img
Also keep in mind s3 probably won't receive any more updates (if that's a concern to you)
Feel free to pm me if you have special questions or whatever.
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but what about otg with power and non-removable battery
myturbo1 said:
I've had no issues with yellow tint or screen.
Faster than s3 ,better graphics (andro 320) better screen (IPS display)
But has only 2 models 8 & 16gb no options for micro SD card.
To me the nexus 4 feels high quality like an iPhone does in your hand.
Battery life is not that bad see attached img
Also keep in mind s3 probably won't receive any more updates (if that's a concern to you)
Feel free to pm me if you have special questions or whatever.
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it does not supports otg witout power i.e u cannot connect usbs on the go.more over batter is non-removable ,it will not last longer say 2 or 3 years as if i spend 400$,its 2 much for me,i cant afford another phone in 2 years.
And regarding yellow patches,are there any still suffering from that or its cured for all?.coz i m only worried about that thing.i don't want to rma again and agan mates.
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it does not supports otg witout power i.e u cannot connect usbs on the go.more over batter is non-removable ,it will not last longer say 2 or 3 years as if i spend 400$,its 2 much for me,i cant afford another phone in 2 years.
And regarding yellow patches,are there any still suffering from that or its cured for all?.coz i m only worried about that thing.i don't want to rma again and agan mates.
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Just dumped a GS3 for N4 today in fact. My rule has always been don't buy any Android devices except Nexus devices. I broke that advice with the GS3 and regretted it for 3 months. Loving the N4 so far, You can't go wrong with a Nexus, and with 5.0 on the horizon in May, it's one more reason to avoid the GS3.
Why post this in general and q&a?
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You can remove the battery. It's just more difficult than say a gs3 ..
Also don't belive anyone is still suffering from yellow patches .. At least with the newer rev:11 model. Or update to 4.2.2
Also why do you think it will only last 2-3 years ?
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Double post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191040
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myturbo1 said:
I've had no issues with yellow tint or screen.
Faster than s3 ,better graphics (andro 320) better screen (IPS display)
But has only 2 models 8 & 16gb no options for micro SD card.
To me the nexus 4 feels high quality like an iPhone does in your hand.
Battery life is not that bad see attached img
Also keep in mind s3 probably won't receive any more updates (if that's a concern to you)
Feel free to pm me if you have special questions or whatever.
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Yeah, this battery is great. No charging and here are the results
coolkakucool said:
it does not supports otg witout power i.e u cannot connect usbs on the go.more over batter is non-removable ,it will not last longer say 2 or 3 years as if i spend 400$,its 2 much for me,i cant afford another phone in 2 years.
And regarding yellow patches,are there any still suffering from that or its cured for all?.coz i m only worried about that thing.i don't want to rma again and agan mates.
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I'm on the same boat of having to stick to one phone for a couple years too, the nexus 4 is great, by 2-3 years you're gonna wanna upgrade trust me, even if your budget doesn't allow it, also the battery is removable you just need to open it up, it's extremely easy to remove the battery once you have it open. the nexus 4 reminds me of back in 2010-2011 when one of the smoothest phone on gingerbread was the mytouch 4G oh man I loved that phone and then I upgraded to the nexus 4 no regrets at all, I kinda miss HTC sense (I had it rooted so it had sense 3.5) but idk I adjusted to vanilla android it's a lot cleaner, oh and like someone previously stated the gs3 is cluttered with bloatware and I was never a fan of touchwiz
Its personal preference, you will have to use both phones to be 100% sure which one you like. For me I vote for nexus 4, battery and screen color issues was fixed with custom kernels (have been using franco). And also I prefer IPS screen over gs3 screen. GS3 has removal battery, memory card, otg and has touchwizz, if these are important to you than you could consider the gs3. However, I'll personally go with a note 2 over gs3. There are issues with every phone, iphone 5, gs3, and nexus 4; no phones perfect. Good Luck.
OP there is no need to have 3 thread on the same subject/topic please keep it to one thread, Thank You.

Please help me decide between Nexus 10 and Galaxy note 8

I am having a lot of trouble deciding between these two devices, particularly because the nexus 10 is not available to try out at any physical store in my area so I'd be going on just online feedback alone. I made myself a little pro/con list. I am hoping that by seeing what I see, maybe someone can help me tip the scales in one direction or the other!
Galaxy note 8 (not considering ipad mini, i like the note better)
Pros
-I am a physician, the size is perfect for carrying around the hospital in my white coat. As a former owner of an ipad 3, carrying that around was annoying.
-Colors look bright
-S-pen. I don't use it a whole lot on my note 2 phone, but i also dont take notes on my phone. I hope to be able to use my tablet for reading pdfs, highlighting and even following along in lectures. This provides that opportunity.
Cons
-Price, very difficult pill to swallow the price for half the resolution and processing power.
-Lack of XDA support (can this tablet even be rooted? Huge concern for me if not), I'm sort of a flashaholic.
-Havent had a chance to watch an HD movie yet.. can someone comment on what I might expect to see quality wise compared to my old ipad 3 and even the nexus 10?
Google Nexus 10
Pros
-Easily the most beautiful display available, I am a techie who wants the best and brightest
-Always updated by google blah blah, stock android
-Amazing developer community
Cons
-Size, I do like that tablet to fit in my whitecoat and not be cumbersome in the hospital all day
-I'd be buying blind, I have never seen a galaxy 10 tablet in person (ive seen the 7 but i know theyre very different)
Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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i thought about the nexus 7 but i found that extra inch pretty clutch for doing practice exam questions and viewing imaging. The 8" also would fit perfectly in the pocket (obviously 7" would too)
Nexus 10 On the Way
I recently purchased the $139 refurb deal on the Nexus 7 and while it's a nice tablet I found that the screen size was too small. I already have a Note 2 as my phone and found that the Nexus 7 didn't offer enough to justify using it over my Note 2. I ended up giving it to my kids to use. I next considered the Note 8 and the Nexus 10 just like you. I ultimately decided that I probably wouldn't be happy with the 8" screen size either. The reduced size Android tablets are designed mainly for vertical orientation and so make you feel like you are just using a scaled up phone, which doesn't appeal to me. I also think the Note 8 is over-priced. If Samsung made a Note 10 with a high-res display I would definitely get it, but they don't. I just can't see dropping money on a tablet that uses a 1280 resolution display. So I decided to go for the refurb deal on the Nexus 10 in the 32gb model. Like you I haven't ever seen one but like the idea of the high-res display and the Nexus brand (get updates right from Google). At $429 with free shipping I figure its worth ordering just to try out. Mine should be arriving tomorrow. Here is where I ordered from:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330899402811
I bought the Note 8. I also have / had the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Nexus 7, and iPad 3.
The Note 8 is for people who need to use it to write handwritten notes. None of the other tablets I've used come close to the Note 8 if that is what you need. The size is perfect for note taking. It can take the same amount and size notes on its smaller screen as the iPad can in zoomed mode. However if you do not need the note taking aspect of this tablet, you would be right to think it's over priced. I liked the Nexus 7 size better, it was just more comfortable to hold. The original Samsung 10.1 tablet is slow and the screen is not that great, but it is still my preferred device for videos, mostly because it can display them on the largest screen due to its aspect ratio. The iPad has a beautiful screen which made it a pleasure to use, and I didn't mind its weight at work, but I rarely use it at home because it's too big and heavy. The old 10.1 Android got more use, though now that I have the Note 8 it probably won't be used much any more. My recommendation would be to buy the Nexus 10 for home, and the Note 8 for work if you need it for note taking, but if you don't need the s pen, I would wait a month and see what the next Nexus 7 or 7.7 or 8 will be. It should be announced at Google IO.
my sugestion its that stay out of nexus 10 regarding its multiply issues with build quality until you are not testing the device to the blood before buying.
good luck
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My opinion is get Nexus 10.We don't know how Note 8 exactly perform but Nexus 10 performs well at the moment.
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Go to any tablet on XDA and you will see just as many horror stories people returning their device 6 or 7 times due to some QC problem... Some people are just never happy. There are some legit problems but a lot of what you see is from people who get their jollys off complaining about a product they bought...
The only problem the nexus 10 has that others don't is a software issue... The thermal throttling is WAY too conservative... This can be easily fixed with a custom kernel... And as this guy says he is a flashaholic a custom kernel shouldn't be a problem...
All tablets with LCD screens have light bleed issues... If they has put an Ambled screen on this bad boy it would have raised the cost and people would have complained...
The one thing I wish is that they stuck to a 1080p res screen... There really is no reason to go above that... 1080p looks AMAZING on my 42" lcd(which by the way also has huge light bleed lol) it would look awesome on my nexus 10 especially since they probable could have gone with an AMoled screen at that res for the same price
As far as the OP goes, I I'd pick the nexus 10 lol
PS sorry for the rant lol
I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
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I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
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And its developments too.. Good luck.
I ended up buying both tablets today since I can return either in 15 days. SO far I'm undecided, but I am bummed out that there is no root option for the note 8.
On the flipside.. the nexus 10 is already seeming like a pain in the ass to carry around. Also, whoever designed the note 8 deserves a swift kick in the nuts for making the camera stick out on the back.
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
kisrita said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
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Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
altimax98 said:
Personally id go for the Nexus 7.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
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If a Nexus 7 should even be considered you need to at least wait until next month when official specs are released for the new model update that comes out in a few months.
theraker007 said:
Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
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If root is available this quick, those will follow soon enough even if there are none now.
Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it.
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So your saying that signal levels drop when you place a highly signal absorbent object over the antenna? That's so crazy, I would never have thought this would be the case. [/donebeingadick]
samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Just because your single device had issues doesn't mean everyone elses does My Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 arrived just fine without any huge glaring issues (only "minor" issue my N7 had was screen lift, which was common during early models; none on the later model I bought).
If my device has problems that means that the quality control its bad . if a single device has problems it could havebeen yours , others and others . It could probably happen to you in the future also .
don t you think?
i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains onthe forums .
I want a clean product , like my money are . I need the perfect quality control from google and samsung togheder because i dont pay half money when I do .
Dont worry Ravanous ... nexus 10 has also 5 6 hours of battery. Buy note 8 or wait for ipad mini 2 if you can eat IOS.
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I have a Nexus 10 but I have it on ebay at the moment and waiting to replace it with a Note 8 3G (whenever they are available here in the UK!).I love the screen on the N10 but that's about it, I find the size awkward and rarely use it as a result. I see myself getting more use out of Note 8. I always thought that 8" is the sweetspot in terms of size.
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i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains on the forums .
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There are thousands of Nexus 10 owners on these forums, which we can see from ROM and kernel downloads. Of those, there is at best only 10% of owners who actually post here. Of those 10%, only 2-3% have problems with their tablet. 2-3% of product that has issues is on the upper end of "acceptable" for most companies these days.

Nexus 7 to Note 8.0. Thoughts after switching...

I like to consider myself objective when it comes to reviewing electronics. I am a fan of the Nexus line because I like the immediate updates, and I constantly flash new ROMS. I still own my Nexus 4 and have been extremely happy with it. As far as the differences between the N7 and the Note 8.0 they are almost two completely different devices. At work I use my tablet for looking up manuals (PDFs), navigating while flying and as a daily planner. At home I use it to surf the web, read the news and watch Netflix. I DO use the s-pen on a daily basis. I am not a big gamer on my tablet. Here are my thoughts between the two devices.
Screen:
The screen on the Note 8.0 is unique in that the specs are lower than the Nexus 7, but it performs outstanding. It is noticeably wider than the N7. It is much easier to view web pages and also use as a GPS with my flight maps. I do think you can notice the pixels slightly more when reading text but not even close to the extent of that on the Note 10.1 (I have used one a few times). I thought the 10.1 was completely unacceptable. It is almost like putting a matte screen protector on a Nexus 7, it adds a slight pixelation. The odd part is the despite the decrease in pixels from the N7, movies are so much clearer on the Note 8.0. Samsung does a fantastic job rendering videos and HD content looks fantastic. I am sure the colors make a difference, but content is fluid, fast, bright and crystal clear.
Color:
Colors are outstanding on the Note 8.0 compared to any other device I have used. Overall brightness is higher and the colors pop (without the burn in possibility of a Super Amoled Plus). The screens runs on the cooler side with whites, but that is how I prefer them. The tablet comes with a "reading mode" that makes whites more on the warm side. Samsung states that this is to reduce the strain on your eyes and it truly helps. I think this mode allowed Samsung to keep whites on the cooler side without risking people not buying the tablet for reading books.
Sound:
Sound on the note 8.0 as well as the Nexus 7 could be better. It is fine for YouTube however music Lacks dynamic range. This is fairly standard across the mid-sized tablet line-up. The Note 8.0 speakers are slightly louder and clearer than the nexus 7. One key difference is the Location of the speakers. The Nexus 7 speakers face aft where as the Note 8.0 faces the side. This makes the Note 8.0's speakers better for movies and YouTube. I have not really noticed an issue with the lack of sterio speakers. In execution the sound just appears to come from the location of the screen and not one side or the other.
Battery:
I get 7-8 hours on screen time consistently. It is slightly less than my Nexus 7 with on screen time. The Note 8.0 is much better than the Nexus 7 with battery drain with the screen off though. I average a drain only 1% per hour with the screen off.
Apps:
I use the ANote HD application for my daily planning. It has some flaws, but helps me stay organized. What I do not like is that Samsung packs a ton of additional apps that can not be uninstalled by the owner. This includes the app store, peel etc. All they do it take up space. Additionally you can not transfer apps to the SD card at this time. The S4 just got an update allowing it and I hope Samsung will update the Note 8.0 to allow this.
Camera:
I did not think I would use a camera on a tablet, but I have found a purpose for the camera on the Note 8.0. I use an application called "camscanner" and this allows me to take pictures of test flight cards, memorandums, business cards and organize them as PDFs. I can also attached the scanned pics into my ANote HD app. It works extremely well.
Conclusion:
The one thing I really miss is NFC. I used it between my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 to share pictures when WIFI was not available. I loved my Nexus 7 and only talked myself into getting rid of it for the s-pen, ANote HD app, and the price of $325 plus $25 Play Credit didn't hurt. After getting the tablet (my first Samsung product) I can say that I have NEVER liked an electronic this much. It works so well I did not even find the need to unlock it, which is good because development is still a little slow. If you think you will use the s-pen and can get a good deal like I did I would switch. I also decided to pull the trigger before the new Nexus 7 dropped so that I could still sell mine for a decent price. I Sold it for $250 with my Otterbox case so not bad.
Hopes this helps anyone considering the two tablets. Don't forget to hit the "thanks" button if it did. Please feel free to ask specific questions.
I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad. I got it from best buy and they priced match with staples($350). I have about 10 days now to return and I'm hoping to hear more info on the new nexus 7. I plan on switching because I think 7 is a better size but this note is pretty nice (with the s_pen of course). I've disabled certain system apps so hopefully its a bit faster. I am running stock, and after my 15 days are up, I'm going to root ;P so they better release info on that new nexus!
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Thanks!
I found your article extremely helpful in making a final decision on my new device. I came from a pre-owned Nook Tablet that I rooted sometime last year, so I can't say my standards were very high to begin with, but I had my heart set on a brand new device. This was to be the 1st brand new tablet I've ever owned, so I was torn between affordability & performance. Alas, thanks to your experience, I believe I've made the right choice. I couldn't help rooting & loading custom recovery the same day I received my Note 8.0 though. After removing the phone apk, I found battery life in sleep state to be amazing! Left my tablet alone for an 11 hour work day, and it was still at the same level as when I had left it (86% btw). Sorry for getting kinda "rambly" there, I did mean this to be a short thank you for sharing your experience. Hope someone else out there comes by your post and makes the right, albeit expensive, decision.
Majin101 said:
I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad.
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Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
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I really appreciated your post because you discuss real world use of the devices and not whether they are made of "cheap plastic" have technical specs 2 ppi difference, etc. Thanks for a really useful review.
Bruce
I use my Nexus 7 now as my Kindle Reader. I've got one of the older Kindles and the screen just seems too dull for me. The 8 has replaced the N7 and it is a worthy upgrade.
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I just added a section for sound. I thought it was an important difference to include.
- sent from my Note 8.0 using XDA Developers App
Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.
apprentice said:
Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.
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Updated with sound.
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soloilmeglio said:
Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
Inviato dal mio GT-N5100 con Tapatalk 2
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I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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danlo said:
I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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Not to quote myself, but it is important to note that from what I've read so far, if you go with *anything* custom (root, ROM, kernel, recovery) , Allshare *will not work*. I found out the hard way so I can't use my Miracast adapter with it.
appointed hwastedf
Thanks for this, I have been looking at the Note 8 for a while now.
I had the Nexus 10, but the clock kept slipping so I sent it back to Google.
Had the Nexus 7, but I found the screen to thin for reading on.
Might give this a go now.
Thanks :cyclops:
wow nice, have u rooted ur note 8?
Generic Question
Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2
draftbeer89 said:
Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2
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Not a dumb question at all. It comes with 4.1.2 but a leaked 4.2.2 package is now available, which is what I'm running (rooted) with no trouble.
As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
- sent from my Note 8.0 using XDA Developers App
Uh60m Pilot said:
As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
- sent from my Note 8.0 using XDA Developers App
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What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.
Still scouring for news on n7 refresh. Although the main thing why I like to get this note 8 is the s pen future. Any other devices offering similar feautures ? Or as add one? Review on note 8 with s pen is very few and even after trying many-many time at the shop I am not convinced that this is the best solution
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hertsjoatmon said:
What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.
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When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.
I, too, switched from a Nexus 7 to a Note 8.0. I have the AT&T model with LTE (got the promotion price at $199 on contract). I can honestly say that, other than the immediate updates that you get with a Google-built ROM on a Nexus, I don't miss the N7 at all. The Note 8.0 is a definite upgrade in terms of hardware. It's fast, Touchwiz is easily the best Android skin (and there are a number of things I'd love to see Google implement into the stock UI), and I love having LTE on the tablet.
Overall I'm a happy camper.
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When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.
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Im pretty much the same. I only take it off power saving if i know im playing high requirement games (real racing, horn, modern combat etc etc).
I would turn it off for drawing apps as well as i imagine that once you have built up a few layers and have used a few different pens it would start to takes its toll and id like my lines to be drawn as fast as possible with no lag. saying that, ive not had a chance to draw all month as ive been camping, had my girlfriends mums birhtday, my girlfriends birthday and this weekend, my mums birthday and have been out pretty much every day.

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