[Q] Nexus 4 VERY Visible Screen Digitizer - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone, I have had my Nexus 4 for about a month now. When I was using it, I noticed a strange pattern on the screen. I looked into it and found out that it was the digitizer. After doing some research, I learned that seeing this was normal. Except, on my phone you can see the digitizer very clearly in sunlight even with the screen brightness all the way up. It also is visible when using the phone indoors with auto brightness. Is this normal? If not, does LG offer warranty for this issue?

mlin99 said:
Hi everyone, I have had my Nexus 4 for about a month now. When I was using it, I noticed a strange pattern on the screen. I looked into it and found out that it was the digitizer. After doing some research, I learned that seeing this was normal. Except, on my phone you can see the digitizer very clearly in sunlight even with the screen brightness all the way up. It also is visible when using the phone indoors with auto brightness. Is this normal? If not, does LG offer warranty for this issue?
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its normal even my n4 has it
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Burn-in anyone else?

Anyone but me have this problem?
Haven't checked... and not going to do either.... as it's a non issue in normal usage (i'm seldom staring at a completely white screen just to see that the status bar area has aged the screen differently) and a "feature" of amoled technology
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It's there on most colors! I took white cause it is easier to see on a photo but it is there all the time! I'm not retarded!
And the worst part is that the little part that is whiter is the only part that is really sharp like it used to be, while the rest of the screen never is really white and sharp but instead has an uneven yellowish color. And it is worse than I could capture on photo.
I love my phone im not trying to mock it.
I'm not even gonna check
Because if I do, I'll notice it every single time I use the phone, and it'll annoy me to death.
If you don't see it you don't have it. It's there all the time. Of course it's only in games or reading stuff that is full screen. But anything except the black status bar!
Ditto problem.
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@marber45 I've observed the same thing a few weeks ago. I think already many SGS2's displays are suffering of this
I have this problem
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I noticed it just days before you made the post, interesting timing.
Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, I've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?
Same problem!
But in reality it is not a real problem..
AMOLED is still not ready for prime time, but at least Samsung is trying to improve on it with every iteration. Can't wait for 40"+ AMOLED HD TVs.
Before waranty goes off demand to change display..
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
Mine was delivered in may w/ 2.3.3, since I'm on a 2.3.5 based rom, I got better colors / sharpness and less side effects (greenish tint)
Maybe Samsung changed the way how to control the display? (hardware drivers)
just my 2 cents..
Yes
Just changed the screen last month
Now its ok
Dunno if it will be burned again
Also dunno what caused it
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Karpfenhai said:
Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
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Irrelevant. It's an AMOLED hardware-related thing, nothing to do with software. My screen has burn-in, your screen has/will, every screen does/will.
When somebody says their screen has none they just don't see it. Because really, all our phones one day or later will show it.
I don't use any apps that ever hide the status bar so even if I did have it, it wouldn't bother me.
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Hi
My notification area is a bit darker than the rest of my screen. It's only visible when screen is white, and I can't identify any leftovers from any icons like the battery or Wifi icon.
My SGS2 is about ½ year old, and in daily use it's no problem at all, but I wonder how it will look when my SGS2 is 1 or 2 years old
Update... Check this out.
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marber45 said:
Update... Check this out.
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What do you want us to loook for ???

[Q] Can you see the screen matrix conductors??

Hi!
I'am so happy with my Nexus 4, but today when i was outside i noticed many "squares" on the screen when i tilted it a bit.
Can somebody in here reproduce this by going outside and carefully tilt the device whit the screen of and on?
Is this normal or should i return the phone?
krille_java said:
Hi!
I'am so happy with my Nexus 4, but today when i was outside i noticed many "squares" on the screen when i tilted it a bit.
Can somebody in here reproduce this by going outside and carefully tilt the device whit the screen of and on?
Is this normal or should i return the phone?
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You should definitely return it. It's clearly defective.
.../facepalm
I see them when my screen is off. Don't worry about it, they've been on all of my phones before my N4 as well.
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I have never seen this before on any phone.
That's why i'am asking
They're only visible when Mine's off and I wouldn't worry about it unless they show up when the screen is on...
Tapatalked from my h4x0r3d up Mako.
i noticed it on my nexus 4 as well. but i only see it when im outside in the sunlight and my screen is off. i dont see it all the time but at times when i tilt the phone i do see it. i figured it was just the way the screen was. it was no biggie to me
I saw mine while using it out in the sun. They are also clearly visible when the screen is off. How many threads do we need about this?
ThunderWolf78 said:
They're only visible when Mine's off and I wouldn't worry about it unless they show up when the screen is on...
Tapatalked from my h4x0r3d up Mako.
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I see them when the screen is on in daylight...
krille_java said:
I see them when the screen is on in daylight...
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Do you see them under heavy sunlight? This might be the case. Normally, they shouldn't be seen. However, if I look extremely closely on a specific background colour (which I don't remember now) I can barely see them.
Unbelievable. Another thread about this.
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Unbelievable. Another thread about this.
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Sv: [Q] Can you see the screen matrix conductors??
I returned my phone yesterday and got a new nexus 4. Whiteout the conductors showing on the screen! I bought it in Sweden on netonnet and they told me that these conductors should not be showing so much on the screen. I mean I could actually take a picture on the conductors!
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Screen burn?

I've had my Nexus 4 for about 3 months now, and I'm starting to have a serious issue with image persistence on the screen. As of recently it has gotten very bad, and when I browse Chrome for 5 minutes, and flick the tab away, revealing the brown-grey screen, I can see the URL bar along with the URL address burnt on to the screen. It seems to go away after a while, but actually if I turn the brightness up to maximum and look it is still there. Does anyone else suffer from this same problem?
I haven't yet but I'd say get Screen test set it to the white test setting set your phone to not turn off screen when charging an leave over night that might help clear the screen burn. I haven't had this issue on any of my androids.
Simply; yes. I think that's a bit more widespread issue than one could think.
What I have noticed is it eventually does clear. But it seems to be taking longer and longer to do so. Right now (it has been about 30 minutes) the URL bar and the address has gone, but there is still a white patch where they were. I've read about IPS-LCD image persistence, but most sites say it clears after about two minutes.
zero burn in here, ive have mine for about a month. how bright do you keep your screen?
Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
I have auto-brightness on most of the time, typically it ranges from the lowest setting, to about the middle setting. When I'm in the house I turn off auto-brightness. I've just checked again and it is still there, that's almost an hour now. I haven't been using it either, it's been in sleep, but I have been periodically checking it.
rabbit140 said:
Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
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How long have you had the phone for?
I've had it since Christmas.
Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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Huh, I thought LCD screens could not be "burned in".
Interesting (and no, I haven't seen it on mine).
Yeah I don't see this problem, and I thought this was an issue with AMOLED screens and the like
One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
I dont think that lcd screen has this issue. My galaxy nexus has screen burn in and it is very awful
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
Tom540 said:
Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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The problem is though I have had it since the end of December. Would they still accept it? Like I said in the OP though it seems to be getting worse, before the image would at least go away. But now it seems to have retained it permanently.
phadly said:
One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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Yeah I also have this problem, I have a couple of vertical lines running up my screen, they are only visible if I turn it to full brightness, and have it on a grey background though.
ingenious247 said:
I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
babywarez said:
This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Yeah I mentioned that in the OP. The problem is though mine has still not faded. I basically have a permanent Chrome URL box at the top of my screen, with a sort of white mark around it. If I have used chrome recently it becomes fully visible at any brightness. But if I leave it for a few hours it is only fully visible at maximum brightness.
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
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Wow, nothing at all? Even when on full brightness? When did you get your device, and what hardware revision is it?
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Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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I'm on full stock, and not rooted. Like I said I have already looked at that online, but it is supposed to disappear after a few minutes. Mine is retained for hours, actually it hasn't went away since I've noticed it, so it's pretty much permanent.

Screen flickering once in a while?

I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
Itaintrite said:
I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
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Turn off your auto brightness in the settings. Mine does the same thing. I've never seen an Android device with smooth brightness adjustments. My HTC One was pretty awful, too.
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I took it out of the box and noticed the problem right away. I can't replicate it since the flickering is very random and very quick. Anybody else experiencing this problem?
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Please don't tell me the 2013 suffers the same fate as the first version. My main reason why I want to upgrade mine to 2013 because mine flickers if I am in a dark room.
WilliamG said:
Turn off your auto brightness in the settings. Mine does the same thing. I've never seen an Android device with smooth brightness adjustments. My HTC One was pretty awful, too.
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Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
Itaintrite said:
Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
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Try set it above 30% of total brightness. That did the trick on my first gen.
Itaintrite said:
Holy crap I turned it off and now its flickering constantly at about 30%. And the full screen blackout flickering still persists. I think this one gotta go back.
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Here's my post from Reddit...
Purchased 2013 Nexus 7 on Thursday and have run into a concerning issue.
When the screen's brightness is set to less than approximately 50%, I've noticed considerable screen flickering and less occasionally the screen goes black for half a second. I thought originally the problem was unique to chrome but I am noticing the issue system wide now. The tablet is set to manual brightness control, as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Can anyone shed some light on what I'd causing this phenomenon and/or how to fix it?
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Here's my post from Reddit...
Purchased 2013 Nexus 7 on Thursday and have run into a concerning issue.
When the screen's brightness is set to less than approximately 50%, I've noticed considerable screen flickering and less occasionally the screen goes black for half a second. I thought originally the problem was unique to chrome but I am noticing the issue system wide now. The tablet is set to manual brightness control, as well.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Can anyone shed some light on what I'd causing this phenomenon and/or how to fix it?
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This is exactly the same problem I have. Will order another one from a different reseller to make sure different batch. It happened as soon as I took the tablet out of box so I don't think its a software problem.
I don't have this issue on my new Nexus. I did have it with the first generation model.
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I had some flickering as well, but it was intermittent. I read somewhere about what people may have done for the problem with the original N7 and one of the suggested solutions was to turn off Wifi Optimization. I did that...and mysteriously, I haven't suffered from the flickering issue since. I'm not exactly sure what one may have to do with the other, but it has worked for me as far as I can tell.
I have seen it as well only on auto dim. Looks like a bad proximity sensor. But it comes and goes. Some apps worse than others. Tapatalk being one. Tried the WiFi trick above, doesn't work for me.
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Don't ever attempt to set brightness to below 30% if you're experiencing this problem. I did just to see how it'd go, didn't go well. Screen flickered a bit then went black (or just really really dark). Had to reboot. Staying above 50% brightness solves the constant flickering problem, but I still get that millisecond screen blackout. Hopefully second one coming from Amazon is better than this. No dead pixel though, so that's a good start.
Got a new unit and problem does not exist, so old one was definitely defective. Screen does not flicker when set at even 20%.
Mine does none of this, mad dim or auto dim there is no flicker. Perhaps anyone with this problem should exchange asap.
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I have the screen flicker issue when I enable auto brightness. If I disable auto brightness and leave brightness level above 30% then I am good to go. I am not satisfied with this workaround so I am going to try to get an exchange at Best Buy as soon as they have more in stock.
It is strange last night, I manually slid the brightness slider below 30% and it was able to dim properly whereas it would in my case go completely dark. But as soon as I tried the auto brightness, it would start to act up again. It gets to the point where I have to try to turn the screen off and on several times before I can even get a chance to disable the auto brightness again.
I am glad to hear that this issue is limited and that I can get a good unit and that this issue is hardware related and not software.
I have return my first Nexus because of bad flickering above 50%. It seems like a senor issue. With the second Nexus, I am using it in a dark room tonight on auto brightness without any flickering issue.
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Flickering for me every couple of minutes, manual brightness, anything below 50% going to try to exchange at office depot today.
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Experienced it on my first original Nexus 7, replaced it and the next didn't have it. Our new 2013 Nexus 7 doesn't seem to be doing it at all. Like others have said, it seems to be an issue with just some of them, hopefully replacing it works for those experiencing it here as well...
Mine did this at first also for the first day then never happened again
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I get some flickering on my nex 4 in the lock screen when the brightness is set to bottom low. I haven't experienced it on the new nex but I'm using auto brightness. Not sure if it is related though.
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Experienced it for first time today. Toggled auto brightness on and off and it stopped. Definitely something to do with sensor.
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[Q] Very visible digitizer - should I return it?

Hey guys, I recently bought an N4 (304k) as a second phone. I know there are many topics about its visible digitizer, but I guess mine is worse than the average.
For example, when I'm outside in the daytime, and I'm using the phone, then I tilt it a little bit upwards (while the screen is ON), I can see the pattern all over it. Of course it is better with white backgrounds, but it's annoying, as I can only use the phone in one angle. Inside it's mostly good, it wouldn't frustrate me if it didn't look like this when I'm outside. As I read most people only see it while the screen is turned off.
Do screen protectors make it look better? Or should I return it (I've got 5 days to do that)? Honestly I haven't had a phone with this kind of screen, so I don't know if it's just normal. Thanks for any suggestions.
It's normal. In addition, at certain angles, it will glisten when the sunlight hits it just right.
totally normal. as @janedoesmith said, if you make the sunlight hit it at the right angle you can see dots appearing instead of those patterns as well.
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totally normal. as @janedoesmith said, if you make the sunlight hit it at the right angle you can see dots appearing instead of those patterns as well.
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Thanks guys. I guess a matte screen protector would make it less visible (more than a usual one), am I right?
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