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My n4 died while I was sleeping!

Yep, I woke up to a completely unresponsive nexus 4. Tried charging it and nothing happens. Also tried holding the power button, using the bootloader, but nothing will make this phone turn on.
Noticed just a little while ago that the lense for the camera and flash have collected moisture inside. Could running the phone on battery until it ran out of power create moisture in the phone?
Sounds kinda crazy, but it's the only thing I can think of. There is no other reason why the phone would have moisture on the inside. It wasn't raining, nothing in my apartment is wet, and neither is the outside of the phone.
Was using stock rooted with matrix 2.0 kernel.
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The moisture inside dried out so I tried powering the phone on and again it did nothing. Then I plugged it in and the led indicator turned solid red.
I didn't know what that meant so I called tech support and that guy was even more clueless than I was. He hasn't even heard of the blinking red led that some people from this forum got after running antutu overclocked, but at least they can return to stock and relock the bootloader.
He said I could get it replaced, but idk if they're gonna give me grief over being unlocked and rooted.
Update 2:
Now the red led no longer lights up when charging. The phone powers on and everything functions except the screen. Even the buzzing from the ear speaker is there like it was when the screen functioned.
I powered it down now in hope that it will work later tonight.

Does anyone have an idea of what could have caused this?
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Oh man sorry to hear and see that. Maybe something burnt out inside and the smoke couldn't escape causing condensation? I dunno, but hope it gets sorted out..
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There is a similar problem with nexus 7 running android 4.2 .. What that required for correction was holding the power button for 30 or more seconds .. I repeat 30 or more seconds and not mere 5 or 10 seconds . that trick worked for me .. Just give it a try
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I already tried that. For now I think I'll have to just let it dry.
I would still like to know why only the inside of the phone has moisture and nothing else.
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blitz911 said:
Oh man sorry to hear and see that. Maybe something burnt out inside and the smoke couldn't escape causing condensation? I dunno, but hope it gets sorted out..
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Thanks for the wishful thinking, but I don't know how I'm gonna get it replaced if I can't return to stock and lock the bootloader.
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If it isn't even turning on that might not even be a problem how would they know if rooted
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True. I say you put it in an airtight container with some dessicant and see if that helps the moisture. If not, give it a shot and send it back. Sorry to see that happened to a brand new phone.

Spunky_Monkey said:
Does anyone have an idea of what could have caused this?
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Looks like somebody touched your phone with wet hands while you were asleep? Lol.

PoisonWolf said:
Looks like somebody touched your phone with wet hands while you were asleep? Lol.
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I don't think so, it's just me and my girlfriend here and we were both sleeping. I don't think that would harm the phone either. Anyway, the outside of the phone was completely dry the whole time. No other areas are affected.
The phone I'm using now is an lg thrill and it's been through rain, snow, left outside and it still works. I don't understand why the n4 would do this just by sitting next to my bed.
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Spunky_Monkey said:
I don't think so, it's just me and my girlfriend here and we were both sleeping.
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Santa Claus came early
In all seriousness, did you take it in a moist room like your bathroom? Or outside on a rainy day?

what about the bag o' rice trick?

Humidifier running? Was it on the night stand maybe next to a cold drink that could've had some condensation? Was the room exceptionally cold (maybe that combined with the warmth of the phone caused the condensation?)?
Really weird. Hope you get it sorted. Chances are though, if it shut off because of the condensation, it probably burnt something out. Generally, if it's off and gets wet, you have a better chance of it surviving than when it gets wet and shuts off.

Could it be a battery leak?

Update:
The moisture inside dried out so I tried powering the phone on and again it did nothing. Then I plugged it in and the led indicator turned solid red.
I didn't know what that meant so I called tech support and that guy was even more clueless than I was. He hasn't even heard of the blinking red led that some people from this forum got after running antutu overclocked, but at least they can return to stock and relock the bootloader.
He said I could get it replaced, but idk if they're gonna give me grief over being unlocked and rooted.
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Nuu~ said:
Santa Claus came early
In all seriousness, did you take it in a moist room like your bathroom? Or outside on a rainy day?
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Nope, it was dry in my pocket all day. I even got good battery life at
4hr screen on and ~14hr total. I left it unplugged next to my bed with nothing next to it to see how much longer it would last.
nexgoose said:
what about the bag o' rice trick?
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I just wrapped it up and set it above a warm heater. Seems to have worked good.
Mi|enko said:
Humidifier running? Was it on the night stand maybe next to a cold drink that could've had some condensation? Was the room exceptionally cold (maybe that combined with the warmth of the phone caused the condensation?)?
Really weird. Hope you get it sorted. Chances are though, if it shut off because of the condensation, it probably burnt something out. Generally, if it's off and gets wet, you have a better chance of it surviving than when it gets wet and shuts off.
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It was on the night stand, but nothing liquid was nearby. And my room is always at a constant temperature. Neve had any problems b4 with condensation.
It did have a low battery when I went to sleep and I left it to see what kind of battery drain it would have by morning. I thought only the battery was dead at first, but it's been on the charger now for about 15 min now with the solid red led.
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Could it be a battery leak?
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I don't want to open it and find out if there's a chance it can get replaced.
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Did you have a wet application screen protector?
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Did you have a wet application screen protector?
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No screen protector or case, just the bare phone.
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It would be my guess too that the battery is leaking and just RMA it. As it doesn't power up they will never know you rooted it and they will most likely just trash it.

OP updated.
The phone powers on now and everything functions except the screen.
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[Q] Wife bricked Nexus 4, what can I do with it?

So my wife dropped her Nexus 4 in the toilet bowl and then proceeded to try and call someone to see if it worked. When it shut off, she tried charging it. Things that people say you should not do. I took off the back, disconnected the battery, and tried the rice treatment for 72 hours. Tried charging it and get the red LED. Does not look good and have pretty much accepted that it is bricked. My questions is, what can I do with it? Does Google have a buyback program for broken devices? Does anyone else? Or is it just a paper-weight? Thanks.

Edit..nvm ignore, I didn't read your post properly.

Worst case, you could probably sell some replacement parts off it... since she did call someone, obviously screen is OK...
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Try disconnecting and reconnecting the battery maybe that will help, you can try to get a free phone from Google, I did that with my galaxy s 2. Just say you don't know what happened you tried turn on the phone and it didn't work. I am sure they would exchange and usually they are too lazy to open up the phone to see if anything is wrong inside.
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aanonymoushuman said:
Try disconnecting and reconnecting the battery maybe that will help, you can try to get a free phone from Google, I did that with my galaxy s 2. Just say you don't know what happened you tried turn on the phone and it didn't work. I am sure they would exchange and usually they are too lazy to open up the phone to see if anything is wrong inside.
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This is fraud and illegal and I'm sure not encourage on xda
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parts !!

Call up google, tell them the truth and see if they would be willing to repair. When this happened to me with apple they just charged me $100 to get a new one, not bad considering the screw up was completely my fault.

Call and see what you can do. If you can't do anything buy a nexus 4 that needs a new screen and use yours to repair it. Could find one cheap with a busted screen. Is the back or any part damaged?
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Sell the parts that are still functional on eBay, I'm sure somebody could find some use for them.
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Next time do the rice treatment from the start. Turning the phone on immediately will most likely cause permanent damage
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just kidding.. but RMA your wife and buy a new N4:laugh:

Fully take it apart and wipe each part down with alcohol I read where it worked for some guy
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Never seen this before...

So there's a strip going across my screen right where you would press to unlock it or where the middle row of keys is on the keyboard where the touch recognition has just stopped working...
The rest of the screen and phone work absolutely perfect except for this thin strip on the screen.
Any one ever seen this before where a certain point of the screen stops working ?
I take great care of my phone and I had used it to txt literally a minute earlier put it on the table and when a reply text came through I picked the phone up and this problem was there.
Factory reset didn't solve the issue so it's gotta be hardware. It's on its way for repair now.
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Factory reset only resets your settings, if part of your Kernel or ROM corrupted itself then a factory reset would do nothing to fix the issue, try re-flashing stock or whatever you use.

I am afraid you're going to rma. Seems like mulfuctioning digitizer.
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mariosraptor said:
I am afraid you're going to rma. Seems like mulfuctioning digitizer.
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Yeah that's what I thought. It's already on its way back. Loving the old Nokia 3210 though in the mean time
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zolah said:
Yeah that's what I thought. It's already on its way back. Loving the old Nokia 3210 though in the mean time
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Lol. Nothing intermediate? From a nexus 4 to a 3210?
Anyway. Hope you get it soon.
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Afraid not.
Sold my Gnex.
My brother has an iphone 3Gs but id rather use this lol.
I go to Florida this Friday too for 2 weeks so its gonna be like 3 weeks without my favourate toy =[

nexus 10 still worth it?

So i just received some money i was thinking about getting a tablet so i was looking at the nexus 10 still worth it?

I just got mine a week ago. I love it. I have both the N4 and the N7. I wasn't planning on getting the N10 but a friend of mine made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
The display is something you have to see to believe. If you are in the market for a 10" tablet you'd be hard pressed to find a tab with this resolution and SOC for the price. Not to mention its a Nexus.
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
So i just received some money i was thinking about getting a tablet so i was looking at the nexus 10 still worth it?
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Best Android tablet on the market.

I'm happy with mine, it may the best Android 10" tablet right now. With such a strong developer community supporting it, I'll probably have mine for a couple years before I worry about replacing it.

Man cut it out with the screen he has to see it to belive it .
It s normal screen with very good clarity but the blacks are really bad in compare to the espectations. it s a nice screen when you throw an image to it but not perfect . The collors are not that good and it suffers from light bleed .
Nexus 10 still worth every penny now BUT only if you get a unit without problems . I hope now things has improved in the Quality Control departament .
If you get one with problems, you pay for a nightmare .
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Well i hope i don't get no light bleed what app is it that i need to get to check to see if i get light bleed just order mine today should get here by wednesday.

From market -> Backlight Bleed Test -> select black color -> enjoy
Don t worry so much . i think yours its ok ... Maybe a new revision ..
Search for more info in the forum . you get the ideea
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light bleed is placebo
colors could be better, i agree

Test for power issues, those will be the hardest to get fixed. Took me months to get mine fixed.

dibblebill said:
Test for power issues, those will be the hardest to get fixed. Took me months to get mine fixed.
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What kind of po issues are you referring to? I own a Nexus 10 since yesterday. I noticed that it loads the battery really slow. If it is plugged in during normal usage, it just keeps its battery level. Are you talking about that?
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Get use with that ... You will charge it in 6 hours from 0 to 100
Patience first 2 3 cycles ... Healty for battery
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wohli said:
What kind of po issues are you referring to? I own a Nexus 10 since yesterday. I noticed that it loads the battery really slow. If it is plugged in during normal usage, it just keeps its battery level. Are you talking about that?
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After a bit of use (or some games), the battery level becomes "stuck" (or while asleep a while), and plugging/unplugging a charger reboots the device. THEN and ONLY then will it show the correct value.

dibblebill said:
After a bit of use (or some games), the battery level becomes "stuck" (or while asleep a while), and plugging/unplugging a charger reboots the device. THEN and ONLY then will it show the correct value.
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I've never had this problem. I received this unit the week the device was released.
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newellj79 said:
I've never had this problem. I received this unit the week the device was released.
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It seems to be one of the rarer issues, to be sure.
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Hard bricked Nexus 7 Screen not working,

Device : Nexus 7
Running : Android 4.1.2 Rooted
Problem : I was trying to unroot it and flash a 4.2.2 ROM to the device and i ended up bricking it somehow. I looked around a lot on here and youtube. I found one solution i had not tried which was to get into recovery mod. But the device was stuck on the boot loaded. So i hard shut it down, and pressed the key combination to load the boot loader. And, the screen wasn't loading. I heard the little chimes my computer makes when ever a USB device is active, so i heard the thing load into the boot loader. But its not showing on the screen!
Please help i really shouldn't have done this. But i am literally about to cry.
I tried using Wugfresh's Nexus toolkit to flash the ROM, and it would stop on sending system.
I dont know if i did something wrong, if the kernel was messed up, if the kit wasnt right, please as the video said there is 4 million members here. someone has to know what to do...
-Sean

That is not the bootloader. You need to have your device disconnected from your pc. Then go to your bootloader.
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graydiggy said:
That is not the bootloader. You need to have your device disconnected from your pc. Then go to your bootloader.
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Okay. I disconnected it and started the tree button combination.
Annnnd Nothing is happening.
Should i try plugging it into the wall outlet?

Volume up and power. Its not a 3 button combo.
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graydiggy said:
Volume up and power. Its not a 3 button combo.
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I feel kind of stupid.
Nope. Not working. And its not the battery. its plugged into the wall.
Just a noob guess, Is it possible the device isnt even using the display? Like its so messed up that its per say not even realizing it has a screen?

Try volume down and power. It is possible that the screens flex cable came loose. Pop the back off and check. You should be getting some visual queue. If all else fails hold the power button for awhile. Like around 15 to 20 seconds. I have had to do that a few times. That should fix it.
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graydiggy said:
Try volume down and power. It is possible that the screens flex cable came loose. Pop the back off and check. You should be getting some visual queue. If all else fails hold the power button for awhile. Like around 15 to 20 seconds. I have had to do that a few times. That should fix it.
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OKay. Whats the best tool i should use to get it open?
Also thank you so much for your help.

You can use a fingernail really. The best thing is a plastic spuger. A guitar pic works nicely. Just start at the bottom and work your way around.
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Have you dropped the device at all or sat on it? If you are getting no visual queues, either you have a loos flex cable, or the lcd is cracked or just non functional all together. The best way to check that is to shine a flashlight at an angle into your screen. Look for any odd lines that have a slight or significant curve to them.
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You can use a fingernail really. The best thing is a plastic spuger. A guitar pic works nicely. Just start at the bottom and work your way around.
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Have you dropped the device at all or sat on it? If you are getting no visual queues, either you have a loos flex cable, or the lcd is cracked. The best way to check that is to shine a flashlight at an angle into your screen. Look for any odd lines that have a slight or significant curve to them.
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Assuming i found the right cable which was under a copper shielding that was running up from the metal frame under the battery. It was yellow.
It was tucked all the way in.
I didnt see any cracks or lines. I did sit on my pillow was under it.

That could possibly break the device. I just recently broke mine the other day in similar circumstances. The cable is right by the battery on the right. Should be almost centered by the batt.
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graydiggy said:
That could possibly break the device. I just recently broke mine the other day in similar circumstances. The cable is right by the battery on the right. Should be almost centered by the batt.
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Oh. But it was working the other day. Does it just do that?
and Yes i got the right cable. So what can i do now? It was rooted so i cant send it back, Is there anything i could do?

You technically could send it back... They can't confirm it is rooted unless you unlock the bootloader and the little lock thing shows up on the splash screen. And since your screen doesn't work, they can't see it unless they test the device after replacing the screen assuming they don't replace the whole unit. But I don't know their procedures. Most companies just replace the whole thing. The screen shouldn't just go out. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it shouldn't.
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You technically could send it back... They can't confirm it is rooted unless you unlock the bootloader and the little lock thing shows up on the splash screen. And since your screen doesn't work, they can't see it unless they test the device after replacing the screen assuming they don't replace the whole unit. But I don't know their procedures. Most companies just replace the whole thing. The screen shouldn't just go out. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it shouldn't.
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Alright. Ill call Google in the morning. I actually was following a guide i saw on a google forums thing where it said to flash the ROM if its not updating as it should. Which is what was happening.

Seanwoodfin99 said:
Alright. Ill call Google in the morning. I actually was following a guide i saw on a google forums thing where it said to flash the ROM if its not updating as it should. Which is what was happening.
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Well good luck. Never thought one could fully brick a Nexus 7. From my understanding, it is damn near impossible. Tell them that you were updating to 4.2.2 and it won't boot up at all now. That should avoid them replacing the screen and checking everything ultimately getting you a whole new device. I know you said it's not the battery, but try charging it overnight and the try to boot it up. I have seen so many people think they bricked, but discovered later on down the line 'up to 6 months later' that their battery was just dead.
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graydiggy said:
Well good luck. Never thought one could fully brick a Nexus 7. From my understanding, it is damn near impossible. Tell them that you were updating to 4.2.2 and it won't boot up at all now. That should avoid them replacing the screen and checking everything ultimately getting you a whole new device. I know you said it's not the battery, but try charging it overnight and the try to boot it up. I have seen so many people think they bricked, but discovered later on down the line 'up to 6 months later' that their battery was just dead.
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Yep its charging now.
Ill call in the AM if its not going. I got a case number and everything and i have Asus's number.
But seriously thanks for all the help youve given me.