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Now that the prices have fallen somewhat, I've decided to get a Samsung Galaxy 2 to use alongside my regular cellphone. (Guess I just like variety, heh) but the problem is... WHICH ONE?!?
The stores where I live offer a couple of different models:
GT9100 SII
The "normal" Galaxy S2 with the awesome SAMOLED screen and dual core 1.2 Ghz CPU.
GT9103 Galaxy R
(Almost) same screensize 4.2 inches instead of 4.3. And it has a Super Clear LCD screen, along with a 5MP camera and a 1Ghz Tegra2 CPU. The price is 50$ cheaper. And I gotta say, I like the design of this one quite a bit better than the SII.
Does anybody know how the screen quality and camera quality compares to the original Galaxy2? (I know that the camera has fewer MP, but is it actually better or worse in terms of quality?) How would you say that the CPU compares with the Exynos?
GT9001 Galaxy Plus
It has a 1.4 Ghz single core CPU and a 4 inch SAMOLED screen. I gotta say that I like the size a little better than the 4.2/3 inches screen. Personal preference I guess. But how does the original SAMOLED screen compare with the SAMOLED Plus screen in the SGII? And would I feel a difference in speed IRL considering that it's a singlecore CPU that's clocked almost 50%. Finally, how would this compare in regards to batterylife?
This phone is almost 200$ cheaper than the two other options above: Around 500$ here.
Given the above choices, which one would you go for? And does anybody have experience with the Galaxy Plus or Galaxy R?!?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Get the gs2.
Why would you even want to buy the galaxy plus?
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another vote for any of the variety of SGS2 that you can get your hands on
Go for the SGS2.....not just because it has better specs in every respect, but also because it'll most likely get the best support/ROMs etc on XDA.
However, there's annoucement from Samsung next week possibly regarding Nexus Prime so you may want to hold your horses else you may regret later.
Hi all,
i am looking to buy something new, i recently sold my xperia play and bb playbook, i have had iphones, sgs2 in the past and recently a htc one x but returned it because of build quality issues,
im choosing between either:
g note in white, unlocked with flip case and car dock for £350
or
galaxy s3 on contract which will work out to be just over £600
any advice guys? is the note priced ok? any problems to watch out for? etc..
thanks in advance
My thoughts are: Have you used a G note, its hard to go back to smaller screens, i myself was checking on the htc one x , but it felt so small too. and sg3 have the same sice of screen. As of performance, i hardly ever use even half of the performance in my g note, although i never play games, maybe its there you get use of 4core.
Hell, since i bought my note, i hardly use my laptop =)
You get alot bang for the buck if you ask me.
But, like the rest of us, we all want the newest pieses always =)
/snabben
Considering all the S3 features that devs are porting over to the Note, as well as all the dev momentum the Note has now, along with the fact that it has a bigger and higher resolution screen than the S3, not to mention the S-Pen, plus the one you're looking at is unlocked and off-contract AND cheaper? Yeah, I think this is a no-brainer. Get the GS3.
Kidding of course! Seriously though, the Note is a beast. Get the Note.
The note has a superior sized screen and most of the GS3 apps etc ported over and working. No brainer springs to mind.
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I love my Note. Best feature is its screen. Its great that its so big. But its worst feature is that its screen is so big to hold. Bit of a conpromise.
There are things i can't do with the Note cause its so big. Namely one handed use. The S3 is probably small enough to get my thumb across the screen probably as the biggest phone to allow it. S pen is great sometimes. Web pages with that little extra width is great.
Specs are close enough to ignore. Its all on extra width convenience versus too wide for one hand use. Test the feel and see how you feel. Note versus GS3 plus iPad? ;-)
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Urm...easy! The Note is 250 quid cheaper and a great phone if the size suits.
I would definitely say the note!! But isn't asking this question in the Gnote section already answering the question?
No offence.... but asking between the note and an S3 on a note forum is a little silly... clear bias....
In fairness though, I've played with the S3 a bit and I'm not a fan... the phone feels quite cheap material wise and the new touchwhiz still doesn't please me. The screen although lower resolution is slightly better in some areas which is nice... since there aren't many real quad core streamlined applications currently I think its a bit early in the fight to really rule out its power... that being said, for normal day to day use you won't notice any real difference.... I doubt quad core will pay dividends until Jelly Bean....
In the end, the community for the S3 will be fantastic and support will outlive the Note on its name alone...
Personally I'm going to stick with the Note. I prefer the larger screen and the hardware is still up there with the better handsets... the community ROMs are flying and the development community as a whole is fantastically supportive.
I guess the questions you should be asking yourself are:
- Do you want/need a bigger screen?
- Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year for the extra performance to really bare fruit?
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I think u should choose note rather than sg3. Note is more big. So u may watch movie on it. In addition.. The note price is more cheap. I also hardly to use my laptop after i buy my note. A developer also porting a sg3 apk on note. Note also is a tablet. Did u see the advertisement? note is the best.
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Gnote if you want a larger screen and s3 if you want quad core.
Both are great phones so you can't go wrong.
Else wait 6 months or so for the quad core note 2
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DarkPand0r said:
No offence.... but asking between the note and an S3 on a note forum is a little silly... clear bias....
In fairness though, I've played with the S3 a bit and I'm not a fan... the phone feels quite cheap material wise and the new touchwhiz still doesn't please me. The screen although lower resolution is slightly better in some areas which is nice... since there aren't many real quad core streamlined applications currently I think its a bit early in the fight to really rule out its power... that being said, for normal day to day use you won't notice any real difference.... I doubt quad core will pay dividends until Jelly Bean....
In the end, the community for the S3 will be fantastic and support will outlive the Note on its name alone...
Personally I'm going to stick with the Note. I prefer the larger screen and the hardware is still up there with the better handsets... the community ROMs are flying and the development community as a whole is fantastically supportive.
I guess the questions you should be asking yourself are:
- Do you want/need a bigger screen?
- Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year for the extra performance to really bare fruit?
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so far google has already mentioned that the ICS browser can support quad core. plus, nvidia has been pushing devs to improve support for quad core in their games, and you can leech off that support with chainfire3d.
and also, s3 is running on 32nm tech whereas we're stuck on 45nm tech. even if you dont use the extra processing power of quad core, we still cant compare with the fact that the s3 can shut down inactive cores, and will use less power and produce less heat for the same tasks as a result of the smaller manufacturing process.
so if he uses browsers and plays high quality games, he can take advantage of the processing power now. and if he doesnt, he can take advantage of the improved battery life. dont need to wait 6 months for that.
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I think u should choose note rather than sg3. Note is more big. So u may watch movie on it. In addition.
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galaxy s3 has 4.8inch screen with 16:9 ratio. so its more or less the same size as our screen except not as wide (or tall if you're looking at it widescreen). movies are generally encoded at 16:9 or 2.35:1. ie. its going to look more or less the same on either screen since 16:9 movies will have black bars on our notes and 2.35:1 movies will have black bars on both devices.
Ill be honest and realistic here.
If you are a "normal" user and like to mess around with your device a bit, and want the fastest, most powerful device for average use, like games here and there, phone calls, sms, etc, get the S3.
If you "love" to mess around with your device(like me) want the biggest and most badass screen, big battery "device" not only phone, get the note. For me, my note is my personal game system, communication device, a mini laptop if you may, that also happens to make calls and texts, and its the perfect device for me.
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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The Tegra 3 is a faster chip.
Chimpsta24 said:
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Cause iPad mini is not even out in stores yet? A good comparison woul just refer to iPad 2 since it uses the exact same specs
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I read somewhere that the Tegra 3 has a faster CPU, while the A5 is better for graphics processing. Don't know how true that is.
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
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So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Toyeboy said:
Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
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You make a good point. I own a Nexus 7, and most of Gameloft's games such as Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 aren't as fluid as I'd hoped, especially Nova 3. I had expected the quad core Tegra 3 to run them smoothly, but I guess due to a higher pixel per inch (ppi) rate, it lags. Even with the smoothest custom ROMs. But considering everything else, I love my Nexus 7 in terms of media consumption from browsing the internet, to watching Netflix. And you obviously can't go wrong for the price. It's a great device.
Are there any hopes that the upcoming 32gb Nexus 7 might have some upgraded hardware?
Toyeboy said:
Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Completely unfair comparison. The 1024x768 is a joke... are you kidding me it doesnt even equal the ppi of the ORIGINAL iPhone. Not to mention its an old dual-core. Good job apple taking a step back to move forward :silly:. Those games are not optimized correctly for the N7 but if you compare any Tegra 3 games to the same iOS variant.. the Tegra is going to blow those games away. Shadowgun THD for instance is way better than the iOS variant. And to sit here and say the iPad will be better at gaming. Well of course its not even pushing HD. And to also say you rather have a non HD display to play games is ridiculous. You should rather be saying i wish developers would put more support towards HD displays.
All in all the N7 is still going to win in pricing alone. The 16GB is 130$ cheaper than the 16GB iPad mini. That tablet is a joke and hope it dies off like every other apple flop.
N7 all the way, iPad can keep it's two steps backwards mentality.
Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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Chimpsta24 said:
Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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No, why would there be?
Just curious.
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When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
Toyeboy said:
Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly.
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darkchazz said:
Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
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You guys are so picky....
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robertc88 said:
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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If they release a crappy version first then they can release an "updated" version sometime next year with slightly better everything and the sheep will buy both and double the profits for Apple. Same with the iPad 3/4.
endrancer said:
i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
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Actually Apple doesn't mind cannibalizing it's own products. See iPod/iPhone as an example, there is no point in owning both really so people choose one or the other, unless they are part of the Apple cult and buy both just cuz.
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I'm looking forward to a side by side comparison of both running graphic intensive apps and games. But regardless, the nexus 7 wins on the basis of price and customization ability.
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azoller1 said:
When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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If people are buying ipads in droves (which they have and continue to do), then they are clearly not "way overpriced" - they are perfectly priced (notwithstanding any technical comparisons).
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My N7 is as fluid as I would want it, I like the different ROMs and the freedom. And for the price, in my opinion is an absolute steal. In terms of comparing CPUs and GPUs, I haven't looked much into the A5, but I have no complaints with games, especially the tegra optimised games. Stunning quality on a nice detailed screen. I wouldn't touch a 1024x768 screen, nor an overpriced piece of hardware. I look forward to when google release a well priced nexus tablet with 300dpi screen and great hardware support.
Until then, the N7 does it for me.
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
leandronb said:
hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality
leandronb said:
so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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myturbo1 said:
That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
Nigeldg said:
Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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rayiskon said:
Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
Nigeldg said:
Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
rayiskon said:
s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC
I have and use my Note 8 for work when I don't want to carry my Win 8 tablet, but this news of the Tegra Note for ~$200 is intriguing - especially with the performance the Tegra 4 will bring at that price. And stylus support? Wow! I'll have to wait and see what reviews will look like.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/7
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/11/12/tegra-note-pre-order/
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/evga-tegra-note-7/4505-3126_7-35831314.html
Honestly I prefer the side-by-side multiwindow that a rooted Touchwiz gives you, though, as that's pretty useful to me when I do use it for work (paired w/ the 2GB of RAM on the Note 8, to the 1GB on this device gives it some edge in the multitasking front as well).
Who knows, though? Due to Nvidia releasing this as a reference model, maybe some manufacturer will license it and sell w/ 2GB and someone figures out how to add the multi-window to it.
On a performance comparison, the Tegra 4 DESTROYS all the other android tablets in this price range, though. Also the footprint is smaller so it would actually fit better in some of my jacket pockets where the Note 8 wouldn't. Also - front mounted speakers!
Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
tegra note
I pre-ordered an evga tegra note for my wife. Not sure when newegg is shipping- they show it out of stock already.
I don't think it is competition for the note 8, I know it is. My wife wanted a note taking tablet and I got the tegra instead of the note 8, which I use. Good pen input is the only reason to get a note 8, imo. If the tegra has decent pen input it will certainly give the note 8 a run for it's money.
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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By passive stylus do you mean capacitive? I know the Note series and Windows Surface use similar technology found in Wacom tablets, utilizing a digitizer. There doesn't seem to be much competition on the Android side for the Note tablets.
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The only reason I bought the Note 8 was for the stylus and thr ability to project it to a big screen(MHL).
I didn't need the quad core processor and 2 gb ram. The work is not that demanding. The microHDMI on the tegra is much better than the MHL.
The Tegra Note seems like an ideal tablet, even 1 GB ram is ok, but I am concerned that the 7.0 inch size could feel a bit cramped.
I expect the Xolo Tegra note to launch in India for about 15K
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I think it's great to have another tablet with a stylus, especially at that price point. The specs aren't as high as the Note 8, but I don't think folks will feel that as much as they feel the difference in price. The most important point of distinction is 7 vs 8. The 30% difference in viewing area really matters. Steve Jobs had it right when he said a 7 inch screen compromised a tablet's functionality.
Here's a mathematical comparison:
http://www.displaywars.com/7-inch-16x10-vs-8-inch-16x10
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Bonisaur said:
By passive stylus do you mean capacitive? I know the Note series and Windows Surface use similar technology found in Wacom tablets, utilizing a digitizer. There doesn't seem to be much competition on the Android side for the Note tablets.
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Basically, yes. Just a better one than those $10 ones on Amazon. Just a slightly better version of your finger.
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I think it's great to have another tablet with a stylus, especially at that price point. The specs aren't as high as the Note 8, but I don't think folks will feel that as much as they feel the difference in price. The most important point of distinction is 7 vs 8. The 30% difference in viewing area really matters. Steve Jobs had it right when he said a 7 inch screen compromised a tablet's functionality.
Here's a mathematical comparison:
http://www.displaywars.com/7-inch-16x10-vs-8-inch-16x10
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The OP implied that the new Tegra tablet is competition for the Note. That's not the case based on the different styli alone. Anyone who want to write or create with a stylus needs a Wacom one. The iPad can utilize a stylus as well, but it's not the same.
But have you guys seen the last video from Nvidia? Shows a lag free writting and painting with Tegra Note and his stylus, with Galaxy Note we have a lot of lantency. I make beautiful landscapes with my galaxy note, in the start is very good, but it increase the lag as i paint the landscape.
The Note 8.0 is far superior despite anything Anandtech claims. I have no lag with my stylus, and neither have other online reviews.
Plus every 7 inch tablet is crap compared to an 8 inch.
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After watching the Nvidia made video demo of it on youtube, the guy tries to act like the tablet apps are Nvidia apps, but they are not. He even demos that "Write" app, which to me looks like his stylus lags when he writes. There is no way its better than the pen on the Samsung Note tablets.
There is also no way a nub tip like that will feel like a pen when writing. But this is just my opinion.
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After watching the Nvidia made video demo of it on youtube, the guy tries to act like the tablet apps are Nvidia apps, but they are not. He even demos that "Write" app, which to me looks like his stylus lags when he writes. There is no way its better than the pen on the Samsung Note tablets.
There is also no way a nub tip like that will feel like a pen when writing. But this is just my opinion.
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the lag may be due to settings. you can set the pen/stylus lag, (lag is a lot less than compared to Samsung). not sure about note taking, but the TegraN7 is decent in this area. the drawing app seems much better.
i do feel that the stylus for general touch screen use on the TegraN7 is much more responsive than any Samsung i've tried.
Does anyone here have hands on experience with both devices? If Tegra note can provide decent stylus based writing and drawing support (even with capacitative styluses) it's going to be a big deal for student population looking for note-taking and sketching aid...
I don't think the Tegra Note will be any competition.... However... I would like to side load some of those apps onto my Samsung. Any idea where we might find a system dump or pulled apks?
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I don't think the Tegra Note will be any competition.... However... I would like to side load some of those apps onto my Samsung. Any idea where we might find a system dump or pulled apks?
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I was looking for something else when I stumbled across this thread so I thought I'd weigh in. I've had an Advent Tegra Note for a day or so now.... Firstly, it's very fast. It makes my Note 2 feel a bit anaemic. However, the screen is poor. I don't mind the resolution but the back light is uneven and colours are very bland. Whites look kind of creamy yellow like an AMOLED panel, but it lacks the punchy colours to make up for that so it just looks bland. My partner's Tab 3 8.0 has a far superior screen in comparison, even though the DPI is lower. This is also my first vanilla android device and I have to say I think it sucks. I think I'd rather have Samsung or HTC's bloatware on balance.The stylus is very responsive, more so than on my Note 2, but of course you just don't have the apps and system wide integration on board out of the box to fully take advantage of it.
Did I mention how fast it is? That really does make up for it so far. It's like a battered old car painted in grey primer that has a v12 engine hidden under the hood. And it's cheap!
I would go with galaxy note 8.0
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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I would go with galaxy note 8.0 because there are a lot more features it comes with. Also the screen colors do look better and I think it is plenty sharp enough for it size as in resolution so thing will still look good. The tablet is still really fast and should be smooth in hardcore gaming. Also if you really wanted stock android for the launcher (home screen and app drawer) you can just download a custom launcher like apex launcher or nova launcher to customize so it looks just like stock android. which is what I do. And coming from stock android , it gets a little boring after a while so that is why I also use launchers to make different themes.
I've had my Note 8 for awhile now, and like i said in my first post, i think it's great. It is getting to be an older model now and if i was looking to buy one, that factor would lower it on my list considering how fast Samsung abandons its models for upgrades. With ART coming soon to replace Dalvik and the potential performance gains that come with that, i'd want to invest in a device that has a good chance of getting it. One thing i don't trust Samsung for is keeping older devices current with Android versions.
NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
rEVOLVE said:
I have and use my Note 8 for work when I don't want to carry my Win 8 tablet, but this news of the Tegra Note for ~$200 is intriguing - especially with the performance the Tegra 4 will bring at that price. And stylus support? Wow! I'll have to wait and see what reviews will look like.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/7
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/11/12/tegra-note-pre-order/
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/evga-tegra-note-7/4505-3126_7-35831314.html
Honestly I prefer the side-by-side multiwindow that a rooted Touchwiz gives you, though, as that's pretty useful to me when I do use it for work (paired w/ the 2GB of RAM on the Note 8, to the 1GB on this device gives it some edge in the multitasking front as well).
Who knows, though? Due to Nvidia releasing this as a reference model, maybe some manufacturer will license it and sell w/ 2GB and someone figures out how to add the multi-window to it.
On a performance comparison, the Tegra 4 DESTROYS all the other android tablets in this price range, though. Also the footprint is smaller so it would actually fit better in some of my jacket pockets where the Note 8 wouldn't. Also - front mounted speakers!
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NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. This tablet is significantly more expensive thanks to the included active stylus technology. A 16GB version of this tablet will run $359 or so.
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I pre-ordered an evga tegra note for my wife. Not sure when newegg is shipping- they show it out of stock already.
I don't think it is competition for the note 8, I know it is. My wife wanted a note taking tablet and I got the tegra instead of the note 8, which I use. Good pen input is the only reason to get a note 8, imo. If the tegra has decent pen input it will certainly give the note 8 a run for it's money.
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I have both. The tegra 7 will be a xmas gift, but I've been doing heavy testing, including playing games on it that note 8 can't even play. Really hate to say it but the tegra note 7 is better in every way except the stylus stylus interface for writing. For art applications they nearly equal. Writing is not that great on the 8, though, so the 8 been a big waste of money for what was a business investment for me. I have had other issues with the 8. I also have s S4, and the Samsung gimmicks you mentioned are not usable in my experience. I am unhappy about the fact that the Tegra Note is superior, but I will still relinquish it Xmas morning to its intended recipient. Again, due to several issues with the Note 8, I cannot even use it for its intended use a business tool.
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NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. This tablet is significantly more expensive thanks to the included active stylus technology. A 16GB version of this tablet will run $359 or so.
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I have both. The tegra 7 will be a xmas gift, but I've been doing heavy testing, including playing games on it that note 8 can't even play. Really hate to say it but the tegra note 7 is better in every way except the stylus stylus interface for writing. For art applications they nearly equal. Writing is not that great on the 8, though, so the 8 been a big waste of money for what was a business investment for me. I have had other issues with the 8. I also have s S4, and the Samsung gimmicks you mentioned are not usable in my experience. I am unhappy about the fact that the Tegra Note is superior, but I will still relinquish it Xmas morning to its intended recipient. Again, due to several issues with the Note 8, I cannot even use it for its intended use a business tool.
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Please share your specific observations particularly with how you think the Tegra Note is better than the Note 8 in writing and almost equal in art or drawing as there are some here who automatically thought otherwise without even trying it out. Seems they are quick to condemn it as if they are threatened by this cheaper yet more powerful competition.
The thing I'm curious about is that difference in RAM. i know as I'm painting with the Note8, and there are more and more strokes on the picture as the piece progresses, it does start to lag and slow down. The Tegra Note is faster, yet has half of the RAM, so maybe it's still susceptible to this issue or worse?
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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Which one is better?
-Featurewise.. As well as in my opinion.. the Galaxy Note is way better compared to the Tegra note
Why?
- 1280*800 HD display (vs 1024*768 non-HD display)
- 1.6Ghz Qaud core processor (vs 1Ghz Dual core processor)
- 2Gb RAM (vs 512MB RAM)
- microSD slot
What the tablet can do?
Well it can do most basic purpose you require a bulky laptop for. I.e Internet browsing, facebook, twitter, watching movies, youtube, playing games, blogs, reading books, taking notes, chat, voice call, video call etc.
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Which one is better?
-Featurewise.. As well as in my opinion.. the Galaxy Note is way better compared to the Tegra note
Why?
- 1280*800 HD display (vs 1024*768 non-HD display)
- 1.6Ghz Qaud core processor (vs 1Ghz Dual core processor)
- 2Gb RAM (vs 512MB RAM)
- microSD slot
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I think the specs you cite are not for the $200 evga tegra note 7, which has
-microsd
-1 gig ram
- micro sd
- 1200 x 800 ips
-1.8 ghz tegra4 quad
there aren't custom roms yet, but it's rootable and the bootloader can be unlocked. it shares a lot with the nvidia shield, enough that root tools and other work is greatly aided.
I'm using an hp slate 8 just now - same soc, 8 inch, 1600 x 1200 display, no stylus included.
I had it rooted a few hours out of the box and and bootloader unlocked within a day.
It is a benchmark beast, 16k quadrant, 3500 or so on geekbench 2
I'm very curious to get my hands on the nvidia stylus and apps. The aspect ratio is great for me. it is heavy - about a pound - and has a battery about 25% larger than than the note. Time will tell how much that really means.
No ir blaster and no smart wake and a very hard to find/press power button are annoying. I wish it had cap buttons on the bezel, plenty of room for them.
Color accuracy is better on the Samsung - I've been struck by that in comparison to every other tab, using photos I took myself.
Speakers are better on the note - louder and/or better ported.
The hdmi out is going to be very helpful on the hp.