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upgrading to Razr M - have some questions

hi all - still contemplating on getting this (~$250 on E-bay). coming from a Samsung Droid Charge where there is only one developer (and he totally rocks - made a kick-ass ROM called tweaked).
hows the development here?
any custom kernels?
custom boot animations?
I see there a few ROMs - which one is most active?
One big advantage from the Charge is that it is practically unbrickable. meaning that no matter bad we screw it up, we can always flash it back to stock with Odin (which also resets the flashing counter). is that the case with this phone?
I'm primarily focused on battery life, as I'm sure ICS and JB will be great on this device. When I do get this phone, I will most likely root it right off the bat and slap on a custom ROM.
thanks!

jco23 said:
hi all - still contemplating on getting this (~$250 on E-bay). coming from a Samsung Droid Charge where there is only one developer (and he totally rocks - made a kick-ass ROM called tweaked).
hows the development here?
any custom kernels?
custom boot animations?
I see there a few ROMs - which one is most active?
One big advantage from the Charge is that it is practically unbrickable. meaning that no matter bad we screw it up, we can always flash it back to stock with Odin (which also resets the flashing counter). is that the case with this phone?
I'm primarily focused on battery life, as I'm sure ICS and JB will be great on this device. When I do get this phone, I will most likely root it right off the bat and slap on a custom ROM.
thanks!
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The rom support on this phone is not huge at the moment but it is a quite new device im sure it will grow over time. When you root this device currently there is no way of resetting it that i know of to show that it has never been rooted unfortunately.

well, I just ordered the Razr M today from e-bay ($250). They're including a 32GB sdcard as well.
the first thing I would like to do is perform a factory reset/data wipe and then root it. how do I perform a factory reset?

You can factory reset either in settings privacy factory reset or in recovery. The phone will most likely be reset before shipping to you.
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Personally, I haven't found a need to put a custom ROM on this device. I'm rooted with a 64GB SD-card and froze all bloatware with Titanium Backup. For my purposes it runs great. I hope you have the same success.

audiomixman said:
Personally, I haven't found a need to put a custom ROM on this device. I'm rooted with a 64GB SD-card and froze all bloatware with Titanium Backup. For my purposes it runs great. I hope you have the same success.
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thanks - I'll probably stick with the stock ROM at first, and if the BDH ROM can add more battery life (judging from the thread, it looks like it should), then I'll consider installing that.
also, I was thinking about transferring my sdcard from my Charge to this phone and re-installing the app data (not apps themselves, as I'll just re-download them from the market) - does anyone think that this could be a problem given that the backup data was from a different device (running GB)?
also, I did a quick search, but could not find an immediate answer - how can I tell if the phone I am getting is the Developer Edition or Retail?
thanks!

Where do u live? If your getting the droid razr m it's probably not the developer edition the australian razr is unlocked (equivalent to the dev razr m with a few differences.
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morgs640 said:
Where do u live? If your getting the droid razr m it's probably not the developer edition the australian razr is unlocked (equivalent to the dev razr m with a few differences.
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i'm in the US mate!

jco23 said:
i'm in the US mate!
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Then its most likely not the Developer edition unless specified.

Debating on rooting my S4

Hi everyone! I just upgraded to the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S4. Before I had the original Galaxy Note. I've rooted and loaded custom ROM's on all my previous Android devices (Captivate, Inspire 4G, Galaxy S II, and Galaxy Note), but I'm debating on rooting this device. It's running great on the stock ROM.
Has anyone else debated this? If so, did you go ahead and root and loaded a ROM then regret it or were you glad you did it?

You can run it absolutely stock and still be rooted. Rooting gives you the advantage of certain apps that require it, as I'm sure you know, such as Titanium Backup, Root explorer and others. Plus ability to get rid of AT&T apps you never do or never will use. fwiw

Root it! You want regret it. The possibilities are endless. And if you do prefer a stock like rom, well believe me there are GREAT custom stock like roms that these great devs have put together that run flawlessly with added benefits. Hope this helps. Happy Rooting
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even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.

lazard said:
even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.
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I am on stock with root. I rooted it using Adam's casual only to have TiBu work. I froze all ATT bloats and some google and samsung apps. The stock is very fine for me.
Now I am debating to flash Paranoid rom to try their multiwindow and halo features...

Thanks for all the input everyone, I appreciate it. Knowing me I'll end up rooting it and loading a ROM since I can't leave stuff alone. HA!
Does anyone know if there's a ROM out there that someone has gotten Bluetooth Tethering to work? That's one thing I miss from ICS on my Galaxy Note.

Hey gk
In same boat, been flashing roms hundreds of times for over 3 years from early Nexus One days. Most of the reasons were to get newer OS's without waiting. However, one of the reasons I got the S4 was it already has the latest as in 4.2.2.
One thing I have learned as most of us have is there always seems to be something not 100% on each rom for some folks. Goes with the territory as we know. Although, I have been lucky in that area. Maybe due to lots of reading and proper pre-install wipes. Hats off to all the devs though for their long and tiresome hours giving us these great roms.
My concern, since this is early on with the S4 and no unlocked bootloader, are our chances higher to have issues.
My phone with all it's "gimmicks" is running fast and perfect--NO issues. I also would like TiBu and eventually a custom recovery for nandroids even if I don't flash a custom rom. Used both CWM and TWRP in the past. Also, Amon_Ra. All worked great for me.
But, like you and others will probably root and flash a custom recovery anyway.
Damn Samsung for making this so tough of a decision--

I was in same position lol I've been flashing andneven Ade a few Roms but ya know its cool and all but its a hassel sometimes enough for me to be stock! There's no reason IMO to flash anything this phone is packed to the gills with features already and its on a very new os so I feel like I wanna root and flash away but have found no reason to YET key word there and of course its purely my own standpoint
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Root it! You can get new features before they come to your carrier. ... I debated it and told myself I would stay rooted but run stock rom.... now they figured out ways to bypass the bootloader and flash roms and im back to crack flashing lol. ..

Yup. I thought I wouldn't root this thing. That lasted a week. Then I told myself it's fine the way it is, I don't need to flash a rom. That lasted 3 weeks. I'm not a flashaholic though. I usually pick one and stick with it for a while.
You think it runs fine until you've rommed it and added a kernel. Then you realize you had no idea how fine it could be.
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I wouldn't ever even own a phone that I couldn't root. It just gives you freedom over your phone. Again you don't NEED to run a custom rom to be rooted, but check out some of the TW custom Tom's that just take the phone to another level but still being stock
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Custom toms are bad ass lol I had to say it
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The Mint Jelly Rom battery life is insane ..it's worth rooting for that alone. Definitely root
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I'm more than likely going to root and load a ROM soon. I'm between two different ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
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I was a flashaholic on the captivate, and S II. I loved trying new ROMs like Miui and AOKP. But, since I got the Note II and now the S 4 I don't have that desire. My only reason for rooting usually was TiBu, and only from flashing so often. Without flashing a new ROM each week I had little need for restoring apps. After three weeks I finally rooted and started trying ROMs on this phone. It was about the same for my Note. I really like TouchWiz, and miss some of those features on AOSP based ROMs. I don't see the performance need for custom ROMs on either of these phones like I did on the older phones. I guess it just came out of boredom, in the end.
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Well, I finally gave in and rooted--knew I would
Used Adam's Casual--very easy--much more so than my HTC phones
TiBu and Nandriods already in use
Next step roms--

Still haven't rooted yet. I probably will over the weekend. Why can't I leave stuff alone? HA!

New to GS4 - Couple Questions

My new GS4 should be delivered today! I am retiring my beloved Motorola Photon but am very excited at the prospects of having the best device on the market in my hands. My question concerns all of my backed up apps and games from my rooted and modded Photon. Is it possible to restore them from my saved "Titanium Backup" files to the GS4? Is it better to download the apps again from the play store and just restore the data? Thanks for any help.

most of the apps will f/c, just download them again, and save you the trouble and time.

Thanks for the reply. I will go ahead and just download all of my apps from the play store but my main concern was more about losing the app data. Can the data be restored safely via saved Titanium Backups?
I think this thread should maybe have been posted in the Q&A forum. My bad.

You should have no problem restoring the data using TB, just make sure you don't restore any system data.
On another note, since you will be getting your phone today, I would recommend that you take both firmware updates before you root. The most recent firmware is MF9, when you receive your phone it will probably be on MDC. So goto settings my device and then select update firmware and let it upgrade to MDL, then after its upgraded have it upgrade again to receive MF9. Then you can use chainfires cf-autoroot in the development section to root it and follow his instructions to load a custom recovery. This will save you a lot of headaches in the upgrade process and get you rooted with the latest software on the phone.
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Or you could use the Helium app for your transfers. No root required! I was able to transfer all of my apps+data from my E4GT via WiFi with no force closes
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When I switched from my tmobile note 2 to the sprint gs4, I used titanium backup to restore user apps with data. Never had any issues.
Just make sure to not backup any system data/apps only user apps
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cruise350 said:
You should have no problem restoring the data using TB, just make sure you don't restore any system data.
On another note, since you will be getting your phone today, I would recommend that you take both firmware updates before you root. The most recent firmware is MF9, when you receive your phone it will probably be on MDC. So goto settings my device and then select update firmware and let it upgrade to MDL, then after its upgraded have it upgrade again to receive MF9. Then you can use chainfires cf-autoroot in the development section to root it and follow his instructions to load a custom recovery. This will save you a lot of headaches in the upgrade process and get you rooted with the latest software on the phone.
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cruise, that is very helpful. Thanks for your reply and the others too!

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jbb2388 said:
My new GS4 should be delivered today! I am retiring my beloved Motorola Photon but am very excited at the prospects of having the best device on the market in my hands. My question concerns all of my backed up apps and games from my rooted and modded Photon. Is it possible to restore them from my saved "Titanium Backup" files to the GS4? Is it better to download the apps again from the play store and just restore the data? Thanks for any help.
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Enjoy the S4. :good:
I got the Photon right when it came out and someone here in our office still has one. It really shined in the short span it was one of the top devices but crazy how much of an improvement the S4 is. First thing I always notice is how much better the screen is and how much thinner the device is. Not to mention moving from GB to JB is huge.

CCallahan said:
Enjoy the S4. :good:
I got the Photon right when it came out and someone here in our office still has one. It really shined in the short span it was one of the top devices but crazy how much of an improvement the S4 is. First thing I always notice is how much better the screen is and how much thinner the device is. Not to mention moving from GB to JB is huge.
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Thanks CC. Yeah, the Photon was a great phone. Still is. Was Sprint's top device when I ordered it. I had mine rooted, overclocked and modded almost from day one and have had a custom CM10 JB rom(Thanx jokersax) on it for most of the time I've had it so I'm very familiar with JB. I'm really excited for the S4 though. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Hopefully today! First thing I'll do after I activate it will be to update the firmware to MF9. Then I'll have to figure out how to root it. Then I have no idea what I'll do as far as kernels/recoveries/roms yet. Have lots of reading to do. :silly:

jbb2388 said:
Thanks CC. Yeah, the Photon was a great phone. Still is. Was Sprint's top device when I ordered it. I had mine rooted, overclocked and modded almost from day one and have had a custom CM10 JB rom(Thanx jokersax) on it for most of the time I've had it so I'm very familiar with JB. I'm really excited for the S4 though. Cant wait to get my hands on it. Hopefully today! First thing I'll do after I activate it will be to update the firmware to MF9. Then I'll have to figure out how to root it. Then I have no idea what I'll do as far as kernels/recoveries/roms yet. Have lots of reading to do. :silly:
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Try running it with rooted stock for awhile. Maybe even with a custom launcher & kernel. You might be pleasantly surprised at how well it runs. Plus you can play with all the fancy stuff on the phone and see what you like and don't like.
CF Autoroot has been confirmed working for MF9: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827

CCallahan said:
Try running it with rooted stock for awhile. Maybe even with a custom launcher & kernel. You might be pleasantly surprised at how well it runs. Plus you can play with all the fancy stuff on the phone and see what you like and don't like.
CF Autoroot has been confirmed working for MF9: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
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Thats what I'm gonna do for a while yeah. Thanks for the link.

Well, I got my new GS4 on Friday finally! This thing is really nice. The screen is amazing. Hard to believe how much better all of my photos look! Anyway, what I'm looking for is advice on what to do next. I just rooted it with CF Auto Root (Thanks Chainfire) and it went very smoothly. Kernels, custom recoveries so I can run a nandroid backup? What have you done??

I just upgraded from a photon...I restored about 80 apps+data, text messages and call log. I actually didnt have a single issue. Titanium rocks.
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First I rooted and flashed twrp, then flashed a stock based rom calked intrinsic. Stock kernel. Also uninstalled a bunch more stock apps with ti. I'm really digging everything about touchwiz. Everything is so slick. I even love the Samsung keyboard, how about you?
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[Q] Noob needing help updating and backing up

Hi all...sorry if this is very noob but hope someone can help me out...
i got my galaxy s4 for att and its been great so far...i did root it and got rid of all the junk stuff on the phone which was nice to do... but a little issue now..there is an OTA update and its trying to apply it by rebooting but it goes to my console screen i guess and i know even if it applies it it would get rid of root.... is there a way to apply this without having to reinstall all my emails (5 emails) and my apps and keep the root ability on it? I would love to get the feature to send apps to my SD thats the only reason i really want it.
again im sorry if this is very noobish to some of u but would like a nice guide if possible how to do it.
Thanks in advance

What device? Thats important, and DO NOT let it do the update. if you are rooted, you could freeze the samsung updater.
I would get off stock and flash a custom rom.

TheAxman said:
What device? Thats important, and DO NOT let it do the update. if you are rooted, you could freeze the samsung updater.
I would get off stock and flash a custom rom.
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im on a samsung galaxy s4 as mentioned above....which rom would u suggest that is not bugged? i want all the features to work just as it stock would..and the battery life now is great.
thanks

nxtstep said:
im on a samsung galaxy s4 as mentioned above....which rom would u suggest that is not bugged? i want all the features to work just as it stock would..and the battery life now is great.
thanks
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hehe I know you stated galaxy s4, but I needed to make sure, US version right?
Use my rom, mine is totally stock, with a few modifications, and FAST!
or you can go any TW rom.
here is mine..
[ROM] ViSiON-X v1.0|AROMA|4.2.2|MGA|TW|[08-03]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391142
then you will not have to worry about an update, until someone finds a patch for the update...

TheAxman said:
hehe I know you stated galaxy s4, but I needed to make sure, US version right?
Use my rom, mine is totally stock, with a few modifications, and FAST!
or you can go any TW rom.
here is mine..
[ROM] ViSiON-X v1.0|AROMA|4.2.2|MGA|TW|[08-03]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391142
then you will not have to worry about an update, until someone finds a patch for the update...
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is there anything running 4.3??? and yes its US version

nxtstep said:
is there anything running 4.3??? and yes its US version
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No 4.3 just yet. Google only.

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I am using KANGABEAN Rom 4.2.2 v all Samsung goodies works plus better performance and some kool tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
Infamous S4 is great rom as well I go back and forth between those 2 All Samsung goodies works plus some kool modes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304792
Try either one you will love it!

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maxshah912 said:
I am using KANGABEAN Rom 4.2.2 v all Samsung goodies works plus better performance and some kool tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
Infamous S4 is great rom as well I go back and forth between those 2 All Samsung goodies works plus some kool modes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304792
Try either one you will love it!
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I use Infamous S4 as well, I love it. It's pretty stock feeling.
When it comes to the backing up part, I suggest Titanium Backup. Get the pro version and you can batch install all of your apps from a backup, otherwise you have to do it one by one. It also saves all app data and system data and accounts, so you can do a full wipe when installing an update or a new ROM (always a good idea,) then just let it completely restore the phone from a backup. You can use it to back-up everything, except for the home-screen layout (android limitation apparently.) Plus you can backup right to the phone if you have space so you don't have to wory about using the computer. I recomment getting a microSD card for 10 bucks at Staples and backing up to that. When you're restoring, make sure that you check what you're restoring. Most of the stuff in red are system apps that don't need to be restored (as newer or the same versions may already be installed from the update.)
For restoring root priviledges, CWM and TWRP custom rrecoveries have a tool for this.

Just bought phone of craigslist

Hey guys I just got this G2 today for 240 off craigslist. I currently have a note 3 as a daily driver and wanted to experiment with this thing. I'm really into rooting and the note 3 development is slow at best. So i have the phone and i started poking around and learn that i'm already rooted .. There is a custom recovery installed i think it said phils somethign recovery.... it's rooted and all that.. i dont know what to do. .I made a back up... do I need to do anything else? Is the bootloader installed? I'm lost. But i'm really excited to get an AOKP rom or something .. Where do I go from here?

kickenwing13 said:
Hey guys I just got this G2 today for 240 off craigslist. I currently have a note 3 as a daily driver and wanted to experiment with this thing. I'm really into rooting and the note 3 development is slow at best. So i have the phone and i started poking around and learn that i'm already rooted .. There is a custom recovery installed i think it said phils somethign recovery.... it's rooted and all that.. i dont know what to do. .I made a back up... do I need to do anything else? Is the bootloader installed? I'm lost. But i'm really excited to get an AOKP rom or something .. Where do I go from here?
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Probably Philz Touch 6? What is it running stock? Kitkat or JellyBean?
I had the exact same thing as you (bought it off a similar website) and mine had JellyBean,
so I flashed a stock Kitkat Rom onto it but kept the root. Loving it so far

Well Well have Pacman installed. Have been having issues. Not Not sure why. Is there anything more stable.
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Probably Philz Touch 6? What is it running stock? Kitkat or JellyBean?
I had the exact same thing as you (bought it off a similar website) and mine had JellyBean,
so I flashed a stock Kitkat Rom onto it but kept the root. Loving it so far
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kickenwing13 said:
Well Well have Pacman installed. Have been having issues. Not Not sure why. Is there anything more stable.
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Yes stock KK is the most stable Rom I've ever used. No offense to aosp. They just don't offer anything but boring options, fc's, and sods
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Yes stock KK is the most stable Rom I've ever used. No offense to aosp. They just don't offer anything but boring options, fc's, and sods
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well now i simply need to figure out fastest way to get to stock KK from pacman... my backup was corrupted. .. . any thoughts?