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[Q] Google play edition dump will work on this phone?

I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy

tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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Locked boot loader is in the hardware, no matter what you flash, it won't change that. Having said that, there are several roms floating around, give one a try as they still work on our devices, I would not trust a raw dump as that might have a different boatloader that will screw the phone ge
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Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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tommydrum said:
Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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I attempted yesterday and received a kernel error on my ATT S4.

Thanks again
It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will do anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.

tommydrum said:
It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will will so anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.[/QUOTE]
Then stay stock. If you're going to flash a rom you have to do wipes most of the time. If you don't you'll end up with lots of problems that will force you to start all over. Just make a nandroid backup in your recovery before flashing and you'll be able to get right back to where you started if you have a problem.
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Can I update to 4.2.2?

Howdy,
So I'm considering updating my trusty XT907 from 4.1.2 up to the new update 4.2.2.
I"m running stock ROM unlocked with Motochopper, using Safestrap 3.12. Removed a mass of stuff, been running it steamlined and smooth. I'd like to update though from what I've read. I've always ran ROMs for years now, but at this point in my busy schedule I can't keep up with the development, and I"m outta the loop. The last ROM I ran on the razr m before stock was the Energy ROM.
My question is, now with bootloader unlocked am I safe to update to 4.2.2 and keep root? Innocent question, hopefully.
Thank you -

blksheep said:
Howdy,
So I'm considering updating my trusty XT907 from 4.1.2 up to the new update 4.2.2.
I"m running stock ROM unlocked with Motochopper, using Safestrap 3.12. Removed a mass of stuff, been running it steamlined and smooth. I'd like to update though from what I've read. I've always ran ROMs for years now, but at this point in my busy schedule I can't keep up with the development, and I"m outta the loop. The last ROM I ran on the razr m before stock was the Energy ROM.
My question is, now with bootloader unlocked am I safe to update to 4.2.2 and keep root? Innocent question, hopefully.
Thank you -
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With an unlocked bootloader, you can flash TWRP and install CM10.1 from http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
Leraeniesh said:
With an unlocked bootloader, you can flash TWRP and install CM10.1 from http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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blksheep said:
I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
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from my understanding, CM10.1 by dhacker is essentially stock. all others are custom variations.

blksheep said:
I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
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Stock has only gone as far as 4.1.2. If you want 4.2.2, you need to run AOSP.
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RikRong said:
Stock has only gone as far as 4.1.2. If you want 4.2.2, you need to run AOSP.
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Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --

blksheep said:
Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --
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if you want to get to 4.2.2, you'll need root access and an unlocked bootloader. stock 4.2.2 is AOSP (it's available in the development section).
the latest update (from what I have read) is NOT 4.2.2 update - I believe is to lock the bootloader. so folks are recommending to NOT accept the update.
I would advise to root, unlock, install TWRP. From there, you can choose your flavor of ROM (keeping in mind that 4.2.2 has not been officially released for the M).

blksheep said:
Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --
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Sorry, I confused things a little, and JCO's post wasn't very clear either.
If want you to run 4.2.2, you need to run an aftermarket ROM. The M has only been updated to 4.1.2. So, you won't find a stock based ROM that's 4.2.2. JCO refers to CM10.1 as being "stock", but it's not. It's the most basic AOSP ROM. As a comparison, the M's stock ROM is Motoblur based.
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Sorry, I confused things a little, and JCO's post wasn't very clear either.
If want you to run 4.2.2, you need to run an aftermarket ROM. The M has only been updated to 4.1.2. So, you won't find a stock based ROM that's 4.2.2. JCO refers to CM10.1 as being "stock", but it's not. It's the most basic AOSP ROM. As a comparison, the M's stock ROM is Motoblur based.
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well, CM10.1 is the closest to stock (appearance-wise) of all the after market 4.2.2 ROMs available (to my understanding, there is no themeing on it). but I think there a few tweaks in it (hence AOSP).

jco23 said:
well, CM10.1 is the closest to stock (appearance-wise) of all the after market 4.2.2 ROMs available (to my understanding, there is no themeing on it). but I think there a few tweaks in it (hence AOSP).
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Yeah, CM10.1 is pretty bone stock. I just wanted to make sure there was no confusion with the term "stock." I read our posts, and it would've made a lot of people crawl into the corner, crying.

Excellent, many thanks! That was confusing me also - seeing an update available for my xt097 but reading that 4.2.2 is not available for the razor m - I was wondering what the update was.
I'll be flashing to TWRP tonight - cheers again -hopefully no issues flashing over safestrap. That was neat tho - being able to pick between ROMs to run.

If your already unlocked you never really loose root ever
And the latest verzion update breaks the root method and won't let you unlock if your still locked it doest relock you I think that's impossible
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Verizon Moto X has been rooted!

http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-moto-x-gets-rooted/

Well root is not permanent yet, but it just means we have to wait a while longer for a rooting method/package to be released. Good news all around. Now to unlock that SOB of a bootloader....

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Well root is not permanent yet, but it just means we have to wait a while longer for a rooting method/package to be released. Good news all around. Now to unlock that SOB of a bootloader....
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Sorry but bootloader unlock doesn't seem likely....as of right now most Moto's don't take too kindly to touching partitions other than data, system, and cache....

Indirect said:
Sorry but bootloader unlock doesn't seem likely....as of right now most Moto's don't take too kindly to touching partitions other than data, system, and cache....
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Yeah, I'm aware. And Moto includes a mean bootloader on their hardware. Custom ROMers are likely to have to get going on 2nd Init if they want any chance of seeing something custom on this bad boy
BTW @Indirect Thanks for your work on getting root. Much appreciated.

Honestly I'm not so concerned with the bootloader. Root will be nice just to do some minor tweaks. But I (and maybe it's just me) have no interest in flashing custom software. It's already very stock-like, and I wouldn't want to lose the features the X brings with something like CM or AOKP.
A custom recovery would be nice for backup purposes, but we have an FXZ, do we not? I know the Droids do... If we have an FXZ, I'm not too worried about even having a custom recovery. In other words, I'd be perfectly happy with root access without the unlocked BL.

I'm thinking about selling my s4 for a vzw Moto x now that we can root it but I'm not sure that's enough for me if it can't be rom'd. I have cm10.2 on my s4 and love being able to have the newest version of android but more than that I like the customization cm brings, like swiping from the top right shows my quick toggles, and I have the toggles customized just how I like. I'm not sure I'm ready to lose features like that. But I like the size of the x so much better than the s4.

Even without an unlocked bootloader, it will still likely be able to be so custom roms. It'll probably just rely on something like safestrap or bootstrap which have been used on other Moto phones with locked bootloaders. We've got some awesome devs that can do some amazing things.
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This is great news. Unfortunately, the Verizon moto x only comes with 16gb and not 32gb. I'm going to have wait until att special is over to buy it right out.
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evolishesh said:
This is great news. Unfortunately, the Verizon moto x only comes with 16gb and not 32gb. I'm going to have wait until att special is over to buy it right out.
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Do custom roms mean losing the touchless control (using dedicated core) and active display abilities? I didn't think about losing those features in a custom rom, I really love them. Are they possible to port over to a custom rom?

GHII said:
Do custom roms mean losing the touchless control (using dedicated core) and active display abilities? I didn't think about losing those features in a custom rom, I really love them. Are they possible to port over to a custom rom?
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it's a system app and it's in the app store as long as it's recognized as moto x it should be fine
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GHII said:
Do custom roms mean losing the touchless control (using dedicated core) and active display abilities? I didn't think about losing those features in a custom rom, I really love them. Are they possible to port over to a custom rom?
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Custom Roms built from a factory image(my favorite) will have all the moto x features unless the Dev intentionally breaks them. I plan to build using this method. I never released my ROM for the S3 since scrosler had such a great debloat ROM out.
Cole
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Looking forward to rooting my Moto X. Personally, I want to stick to the stock rom. It is nearly perfect. However, I do want to see the bootloader cracked because when 4.3 comes to our phone we are likely to lose root without a way of getting it back without a custom recovery.

Some of you may want to look at the Moto X development sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45545389

Unlocking options?

Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?

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Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?
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You can GSM unlock regardless of OTA version. There are a few stock-based ROMs out there for Safestrap once you root.
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OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".

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OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".
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http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/

Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?

I've used safe strap on the og RAZR and the d4... it does use the internal SD storage space... and I do not believe you can delete the stock slot nor flash anything on the stock slot... tho it may differ on this device...
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xlxcrossing said:
Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?
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I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.

I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?

xlxcrossing said:
I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?
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Yeah, supposedly you can use your stock slot. I'll post the link to the post on DroidRzr.com where it's discussed. Don't quote me on this, but I think it does sit there unused. The other slots only use its boot image. I'm pretty positive it doesn't do anything else when you boot into the safe side.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11600-installing-custom-rom-to-stock-using-ss-312/

That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.

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That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.
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What ROMs were you trying? There are very few SS compitble ROMs out there. The app can still work for you, as far as making backups,etc.

I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.

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I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.
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Yeah, with SS you can only flash SS compatible ROMs. Slim Bean is not SS compatible. Either way, good luck with the sale.

RikRong said:
I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.
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I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.

HemRoyd said:
I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.
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The person that did the write up on DroidRzr did it and know other people have done it. I never did it but it makes sense that it should work. Just have utility or XML ready if something goes bad.

With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.

FirePsych said:
With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.
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Yep. You can tether on stock actually... If you're on a share everything, you get it out of the box, otherwise you need to do a hack using sqlite editor or something
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So which ROMs are safestrap compatabile with the locked bootloader? I am trying to help a friend with his phone unfortunately he took the ota update and his bootloader will stay locked for the moment. That said I rooted and installed safestrap so I'm looking to install a compatible ROM and get this phone on straight talk with a ST SIM card. Any suggestions?
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Developers out there (2019) What ROM would you put on your Motorola XT907?

I'm going to find someone to install a rom but do not know which rom to choose for this model. Its overwhelming.

920Rocky said:
I'm going to find someone to install a rom but do not know which rom to choose for this model. Its overwhelming.
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It is overwhelming. But I've owned my xt907 for number of years and I don't think there's a ROM oh, that I haven't gotten my hands on that I have not tried on this device. And I will be quite honest when I say this and this is very rare that I will ever say this, I have found in terms of cooperation in terms of system, the stock operating system KitKat the last updated version to be the most stable and speedy version when comparing to custom roms. with that having been said and not having a list of links in front of me, I have found aosp ROM 5.1.1 is the most stable of the many available. This phone already comes with enough bells and whistles on its own. you shouldn't need to add too much more of your custom ROM and I think many of the developers went a little bit overboard with that.
PS I also have an unlocked bootloader.

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It is overwhelming. But I've owned my xt907 for number of years and I don't think there's a ROM oh, that I haven't gotten my hands on that I have not tried on this device. And I will be quite honest when I say this and this is very rare that I will ever say this, I have found in terms of cooperation in terms of system, the stock operating system KitKat the last updated version to be the most stable and speedy version when comparing to custom roms. with that having been said and not having a list of links in front of me, I have found aosp ROM 5.1.1 is the most stable of the many available. This phone already comes with enough bells and whistles on its own. you shouldn't need to add too much more of your custom ROM and I think many of the developers went a little bit overboard with that.
PS I also have an unlocked bootloader.
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According to your vast experience with this phone, and having read some of the threads here, do you agree in debloating and radio unlocking from the Verizon restrictions? I want it to use all the bands that it's capable of.
Thank you

superunbricker said:
According to your vast experience with this phone, and having read some of the threads here, do you agree in debloating and radio unlocking from the Verizon restrictions? I want it to use all the bands that it's capable of.
Thank you
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I guess that's a matter of personal opinion and use. Mine has never been off Verizon and I've had no use to get it off there. And yes I prefer an extreme debloat. There are few lists laying around all of them are pretty reliable again I guess it would all base upon your tastes and uses.
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DragonFire1024 said:
I guess that's a matter of personal opinion and use. Mine has never been off Verizon and I've had no use to get it off there. And yes I prefer an extreme debloat. There are few lists laying around all of them are pretty reliable again I guess it would all base upon your tastes and uses.
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Great, one last thing, I'm having trouble backing up the stock rom, the EFS tool says the SD is full when it reaches the last partition, but that's not correct, its a 16 Gb card. If I uncheck the last partition it does the same but with the new last one.
Edit: Solved, turned out that EFS uses internal storage for backup, didn't found a way to direct to SD, so I've splitted the process.
Thank you very much

superunbricker said:
Great, one last thing, I'm having trouble backing up the stock rom, the EFS tool says the SD is full when it reaches the last partition, but that's not correct, its a 16 Gb card. If I uncheck the last partition it does the same but with the new last one.
Edit: Solved, turned out that EFS uses internal storage for backup, didn't found a way to direct to SD, so I've splitted the process.
Thank you very much
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I was going to say you're on your own with that one. I don't use nor have I ever used EFS. Glad you worked it out though!
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What do you do about so many apps not working on versions older than, say, Marshmallow?