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OK so hopefully my N1 should get to me tomorrow, and I'm wanting to put a ROM on it (think its just running stock 2.2.1 ATM according to the seller).
I'm quite drawn to MIUI at the minute, because of speed and battery life, and I quite like the hybrid iphone/android look, but I have read some comments that this isn't quite an every day ROM just yet, as it has a few issues and bugs.
The other I keep reading about is CM6 but what is battery life and speed like? Is this a more complete ROM than MIUI or am I better off with the former?
Are there any good ROMs I should consider other than those - I am after something that is fast, reliable, and pretty (the pretty isn't essential but is desirable).
I know I could look for myself, but I figured that opinions from those who've tried different ROMs in anger would be very useful.
It really is a personal preference thing. So try them all, that's the great thing about the N1.
I didn't like miui, too iPhoney, but a very nice rom none the less.
CM6 is the rom I use, very complete and feature packed. Speed is excellent but battery life less than others. But with IntersectRaven's kernel I get pretty good battery life
Enomther rom is another good one, with really good battery life. Evil's sense ports are really good too
But really you have to try them, you will find one you like
Best of luck, and welcome to one of the best phones you will ever own
Rellikzephyr
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OK so hopefully my N1 should get to me tomorrow, and I'm wanting to put a ROM on it (think its just running stock 2.2.1 ATM according to the seller).
I'm quite drawn to MIUI at the minute, because of speed and battery life, and I quite like the hybrid iphone/android look, but I have read some comments that this isn't quite an every day ROM just yet, as it has a few issues and bugs.
The other I keep reading about is CM6 but what is battery life and speed like? Is this a more complete ROM than MIUI or am I better off with the former?
Are there any good ROMs I should consider other than those - I am after something that is fast, reliable, and pretty (the pretty isn't essential but is desirable).
I know I could look for myself, but I figured that opinions from those who've tried different ROMs in anger would be very useful.
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Crazy idea, if you're new to Android, how about using the stock ROM for a while? Even if you're not new, using the stock ROM is a good way to gauge if the phone is solid.. If you put $random_rom on it and you have problems you won't know if it's the phone, the ROM, your apps, etc..
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Crazy idea, if you're new to Android, how about using the stock ROM for a while? Even if you're not new, using the stock ROM is a good way to gauge if the phone is solid.. If you put $random_rom on it and you have problems you won't know if it's the phone, the ROM, your apps, etc..
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I'm not totally new to android - my girlfriend has an HTC Magic with Cupcake on it, and I've briefly owned an HTC Desire (had a fault) and have had a Galaxy S for the last 4 months (which I'm getting rid of because it's unreliable).... but you do make a good point about the phone, so thanks I may do that, but I'd still like suggestions because I can't see it staying stock for long
Evil D:'s NXSense is pretty awesome!
+1 for staying stock. Once you find something you want to do but stock won't let you, then it's time to go with custom rom.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
MIUI is stable and is my everyday ROM based on speed, battery life and stability. If you don't like the default iPhone looking launcher, just use LauncherPro.
Enothemer's ROM is also very nice.
I thought CM6 was the bomb but realised that Enothemer/MIUI had most of what I needed to tinker with anyways. Battery life was horrid with CM6.
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+1 for staying stock. Once you find something you want to do but stock won't let you, then it's time to go with custom rom.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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I've yet to find anything the stock ROM can do that Evil's NXSense can't... However, NXSense will do plenty that stock won't.
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I've yet to find anything the stock ROM can do that Evil's NXSense can't... However, NXSense will do plenty that stock won't.
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I'm using v1.15 of Evil's NXSense ROM, and I absolutely love it! It's fairly stable and the battery life is great -- I routinely can go 48 hours with light-moderate use. I'm particularly impressed with Sense, which is so much better than I believed it could be.
The only thing I miss from stock is the unified inbox for email.
"Fairly" stable you say? :-s
Incidentally I've just read about the fact the power button on it WILL break, is it really that flimsy :-o I was under the impression these things were well built?
Anyway thanks for the ideas, I always thought sense on the htc desire was pretty nice, is this evil d rom better than that?
Might have to get myself swype as I'm quite used to it on the sgs now.
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MIUI is stable and is my everyday ROM based on speed, battery life and stability. If you don't like the default iPhone looking launcher, just use LauncherPro.
Enothemer's ROM is also very nice.
I thought CM6 was the bomb but realised that Enothemer/MIUI had most of what I needed to tinker with anyways. Battery life was horrid with CM6.
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Please don't make it look like MIUI comes from Enom, kthx.
Run the stock rom long enough to learn what it is, otherwise you dont know what you had to start with and wont know what you gained or lost. Its good to keep in mind that most roms will only partly meet your needs and will likely have something in them you dont want where you might actually prefer the stock version over whatever was added. You wont know that if you dont fiddle with stock long enough to see what it brings to the table. If you are relatively new to flashing roms consider a conservative stability first rom like enom to start out.
MIUI is what i'm currently using and i'm really digging it
it's got good battery life and an overall good experience
highly reccomend to use it with launcher pro though, as the iphone look is very ugly/cluttered IMO
if i were you though i'd hold off on MIUI since it does have a few bugs and since you're just getting the phone tomorrow it'd be kinda hard to distinguish if the problem was with your phone or the rom,
on that note, staying stock for a couple days wouldn't hurt but if you're anything like most of us here you're probably eager to get some custom roms on there
anyway i digress, enom's got the best battery life hands down and there's plenty of tweaks and customizations (although not as many as cyanogen's of course) and it's an extremely stable and dependable rom. for me it's kinda like my "go-to rom"
as for cyan's rom, it's a nice rom with an myriad of tweaks and options but i've always had battery life issues with it.
evil's nxsense is also a sweet rom if you're into sense and battery life/stability isn't too bad on it.
actually, any way you slice it, you're gonna have a great rom on your phone! so i say try 'em all and have fun haha
So a few days ago I realized I just can't use JB as a daily driver. I *love* 4.x and am a big fan of almost every change introduced, so I've been using ICS and later JB builds as soon as builds were available (thanks, devs!). But on the DZ it just ain't cutting it. I haven't had a single day without freezes, spontaneous reboots, unbearable slowdowns, graphic glitches etc.
Well I'm back to ILWT CM7, which I haven't used for about 11 months. I've frozen almost every stock app, and have found a usable Holo-style replacement for almost all of them, except for the Browser and the hideous pre-ICS Calendar (any suggestions?). Also every 3rd party SMS app is so bloated.
So far, what I miss:
- I really miss pulling down the status bar in the lockscreen! But that requires a 3rd-party lockscreen replacement which is a huge PITA. Also no 4.x unified lockscreen music controls.
- 4.x Rich Notifications. I added music controls in the CM7 notification power widget, but it's a pretty crappy solution (reminds me of iOS)
- JB makes scrolling in apps (among other things) smoother, and some things were considerably more "fluid". JB wasn't *that* smooth anyhow, at least on the DZ.
- 2.x interface is hideous, "fixed" with ICS Mixer theme, Holo-styled apps and a font change.
- Overall UI polish degradations and papercuts, like the power menu, the loss of holo action bar and the ugly old icons of app menu options.
- Some newer apps don't support 2.x which sucks.
- Tons of 4.x improvements I didn't mention. ICS and JB are such vast improvements from GB. JB is so much more consistent, and it sucks that htc are assholes and dropped support for DZ and DHD.
What's better:
- Much more stable.
- Faster!
- Can actually multitask now because there's no need for the OS to constantly kill things in the background. lol at Titanium constantly getting killed in the background on JB.
- Better battery life.
- The proper drivers mean some apps work here but not in 4.x. For example, any app that uses the phone as a webcam.
So anyone else back on Gingerbread and can share their experience?
Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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I have to say the battery life on the newest Andromadous JB test builds are amazing and much better than GB. I even have the CPU governor set the minimum to 800 MHz with maximum to 1500 Mhz and I can still run a full day without recharging (I do quite a bit of web browsing on my G2 and occasional calls).
Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Yeah, definitely try the new test builds, I was really amazed at the big difference in battery life in the newest builds.
euhh, its not beacause of your DZ.
- On the galaxy sII, MOST of the ICS and JB roms are not smooth at all. Lot of crashes , etc. Even on the official update.
- on galaxy note, same thing. Looks like stock JB run better anyway, good thing.
- on nexus S it is the worst since the last JB update.
- on desire ( one of the most supported device) , lot of crashes with ICS.
- And I dont tell you about the milestone (very old device)...
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All the phones mentionned above, are running GB right now.
They not all mine, most of them are my friends phone, they ask me to root it to try new roms. All of them complaining about ICS/JB stability.
I didnt try the big ass phones like the sIII, but they are so powerfull that you can't feel any slowdown.
Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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DZ screen are cheap.
I have 2 in stock just in case, with the HTC logo. I paid them 30 $ ea. a year ago .
I don't have a desire z but a nexus one and did have 2 regular desires before (my ex gf had ICS spazedog ROM - working pretty good) now I'm running spazedog jellybean rom on the n1 and its smooth than cm was maybe a bit slower to open apps but no real lag or freeze or reboots after a couple weeks. Only problem is no video camera and had to install an app from play store to take pictures without a soft reboot and still the pictures don't look great. That and can't play YouTube videos in app or browser or its reboots. Other than that its pretty reliable and the desire z should be a slightly better phone. Maybe something else causing the issues?
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Everyone use their phone differently, I agree with much of what you are saying but I highly disagree with bettery battery life on 4.x compared with 2.x, no matter how much you tweak or change things the best roms (for battery life) on 4.x have never been able to compete with the best 2.x in that regard. I will say that the improvment have been incredible over the past 6 months or so, but I'm a heavy user, and maybe its the way I use my phone that runs the battery fast but I easily can get a day with 2.x (about 6hours screen on) and I'm always struggling even with the best 4.x to do the same, (max maybe 4~4.5hrs screen up)
But again, we all use our phones differently. Right now I'm on an ics Rom, about 6hours up, 56% left of battery with just under 2hrs screen on. Granted this is not the best ics rom for battery life but let's I was using say mimicry or elitemod ics, I would be @ maybe 65 @ most, with certain 2.x is be well over 70 right now
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Obviously battery life varies with the way you use your phone. If you're ever interested in trying JB again, definitely give the test builds a shot. Remember to do a full wipe though, I assume you do anyways. I was shocked at how much the JB test builds improved battery life and responsiveness compared to the Virtuous G-lite I was using for a while.
well thats somewhat a relative point. you see when i consistently get (im picking #s here) 24hrs of battery use with 6 of those hours being screen on time with 2.x. then i compare the use of 4.x where i consistently get 18hrs of use with 4hrs screen on.
this compares not only the screen on time but also the overall time the phone lasts between charges. i feel most people comparing batteries understand that this is over a course of time and that the first day they flash a new rom will not give the best overall picture of what the battery consumption level is.
true the most power consumption is happening when the screen is on, but noting the amount of screen on time along with how long the battery lasts (consistently) will give anyone a good idea of whats going on. see if there is a day that i use my phone less, the battery tends to last longer (you get that) noting how long screen on time is gives a general picture of how frequently the phone is used that day.
also comparing what operating systems do in deep sleep is useful, again that hopefully is not the best way in determining battery life as you are lacking realworld use of the phone. yes its important to note, but like i said if i stuck the phone in a sock drawer for three days with the sim pulled and wifi off, i couldnt care much the results because my use of my phone will never be compared to it sitting in a sock drawer for any period of time.
so one of us is not getting the other, or there is some **** comparing going on over battery life testing. either way i say its best not to waste time and electronic ink over this. lets just say your right for the sake of i dont really care.
I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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Honestly scrolling in cm7 looks laggish to me compared to flinnys don't know why . how is jelly baby compared to flinnys in terms of performance?
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Just my 2 pence but, frankly, any and every CM9.x/CM10.x rom I've ever tried on my DZ has been laggy/buggy after some time. On the other hand, the AOSP counterparts have ALWAYS been faster in general and didn't slow down, unlike CM. Hell, it was the same even with CM7 (with some exceptions, primarily ILWT CM7). This is obviously logical since CM has more things going on unlike AOSP which is pretty light on the feature side (nothing you can't take care of with a couple of apps, mind you). From my experience, CM9+ roms just don't work on the DZ. Whatever I do, they always end up slowing down to the point where I can't even use the phone. As for battery life...I don't have much to say in particular, it has always been below average whatever rom I was running (again with a few exceptions, like G-Lite).
Just as I said though, just my opinion so don't take my word for it.
Watch my vid and see!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKKUwcfc68&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for this bit of insight!
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Thanks for this bit of insight!
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You may think twice before getting that device right now with everything else in the market.I moved to a G2 because of OPPO's poor software situation and lack luster battery life.Also the price hasn't dropped officially from OPPO.
I did, and still want it. If software is all that's 'wrong' with it then I'm sure they, or some clever ROM maker, will fix it eventually. And for me the price is still well in terms with the amount of hardware I'm getting so ... I'm sticking with the choice.
Thanks again.
If you're comfortable with rooting and installing another ROM, there's no reason the crummy Oppo ROM should prevent you from getting it. There are a few ROM's around here that are VERY good, and perform as good if not better than CM and others performed on my Sony Xperia T.
I don't undervolt or tweak anything beyond visuals, and my battery life is good. Disclosure - I am a business user.
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If you're comfortable with rooting and installing another ROM, there's no reason the crummy Oppo ROM should prevent you from getting it. There are a few ROM's around here that are VERY good, and perform as good if not better than CM and others performed on my Sony Xperia T.
I don't undervolt or tweak anything beyond visuals, and my battery life is good. Disclosure - I am a business user.
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yeah maxwen and codefirex are my top recommendations.CM sucks until we get another maintainer.Why because an interim maintainer screwed over fixes the former did work on like robotic voice during calls.
I totally agree. The device itself is very nice. The stock rom just sucks. If you are keen with getting a custom rom then this is a good deal.
Also the price should drop down soon.
Here in Thailand you can get the device already for around 14000 Baht / 350 Euro at the grey market.
It is a dev friendly phone. Absolutely no reason to use stock.
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I have it from 2 weeks and my impression is very good. A bit worried what it gonna happen when it drops: it's quite heavy and his shape isn't drop-frielndy... Before I got a Galaxy S-plus and a Galaxy Nexus, both rounded on corners: several drops never a scratch
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I have it from 2 weeks and my impression is very good. A bit worried what it gonna happen when it drops: it's quite heavy and his shape isn't drop-frielndy... Before I got a Galaxy S-plus and a Galaxy Nexus, both rounded on corners: several drops never a scratch
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Check out the video on my Find 5 cases.Mine did drop.
maxwen FTW. He keeps the almost dead HTC One V development alive by contributing great ROM and Kernel.
Only Chuck Norris can judge me
After 8 mouth the oppo find 5 have only an issue the battery... obviusly with dev Rom.
That thing looks like it has crazyyyy lag.
When you double tapped the screen to wale up, it took almost 2 seconds.
Even when switching between apps it takes long.
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The video in FP isn't even close to what todays roms offer (Luckily )
Liquidsmooth is liquidsmooth (pun intended), just like CM, Team EOS, PA, and most others. Only rom that bugs me is stock OPPO rom. There are multiple custom kernels but for me personally Team EOS + void custom kernel result in best performace AND battery life with an average of 3.5-4 hours screen on time on a full day. Win/Win for me. That isn't that different from a nexus 4 is it?
Hi boertjeg
Can u show me what setting u use to get battery life like that
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With liquidsmooth i do around 2:30h with a little downclock. The battery is toooo small.
Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
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Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
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GRAM is hardware but not sure if need specific software on stock rom to make it works
Life Engineer said:
Hey all!
Simple question: Does GRAM works on AOSP roms?! Is it a software or a hardware feature?! Or maybe both?!
Thanks!
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Good Question,
Was wondering this myself
Any opinions on this?
If I had to guess I would think that gram feature is activated through either the rom or kernel, so it probably isnt working on AOSP based ROMs. But thats just a guess due to how the feature activates.
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If I had to guess I would think that gram feature is activated through either the rom or kernel, so it probably isnt working on AOSP based ROMs. But thats just a guess due to how the feature activates.
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What makes me confused is some reports in those AOSP roms of better battery life!!! I really highly doubt it!
I've had the S2, S3 and never AOSP gives better battery life than stock roms! I think this also applies to highly optimized software like the one on our LG G2 or HTC one!
Its really a toss up on battery life, no matter what phone. It depends on the feature you use and how they are implemented so no one can say AOSP gives better or Touchwiz gives better, or anything like that. Usually it is the apps within the ROM that give the bad battery life, such as Google Now. Stock GNow is just terrible on battery, and from what I can tell LG didnt do anything to GoogleNow to optimize it or change its function in any way. The Samsung or HTC implementation of it may give better battery life. There are also a lot of rom features in system apps that drain a lot more battery in Touchwiz and Sense than the stock AOSP.
The reason people get better battery on AOSP for this phone right now is because of two reasons:
1) the kernel default speed is 1.5GHz, meaning even at max it wont ever drain as much battery as stock
2) AOSP based ROMs have less bloat in them right now that isnt draining as much battery leading to better idle life.
You are partially right but not completely! Software optimisation has a lot of role in here!
A big example is let's say the HTC one being able to deliver 10hrs of browsing on its modest 2300ma. I dare you that AOSP can't do that!
Also see iPhones which have like 1400ma and have some amazing battery life.
So allow me to say you are wrong! Software optimisation has a lot to do!
Besides when I wrote my last comment it was out of experience and not speculation. I always have the same apps and most of the time touchwiz (although it has more bloatware) had mich bettery life! So NO it's not only about the apps! There's something much deeper than that!
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What makes me confused is some reports in those AOSP roms of better battery life!!! I really highly doubt it!
I've had the S2, S3 and never AOSP gives better battery life than stock roms! I think this also applies to highly optimized software like the one on our LG G2 or HTC one!
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Are you saying that no custom rom gives better battery life?!
Can't say I agree with that at all. Anytime I've changed a stock blaoted rom for a well put together aosp rom the battery has always been better.
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Are you saying that no custom rom gives better battery life?!
Can't say I agree with that at all. Anytime I've changed a stock blaoted rom for a well put together aosp rom the battery has always been better.
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Read my reply above sir!
Anyway that's just not the main issue! The question here is Does GRAM works on AOSP or not?!
It would be great, but i'm afraid we need some developer here. Maybe they can port the script from LG frimwares to use it in other roms. I would buy a beer for that hero!
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You are partially right but not completely! Software optimisation has a lot of role in here!
A big example is let's say the HTC one being able to deliver 10hrs of browsing on its modest 2300ma. I dare you that AOSP can't do that!
Also see iPhones which have like 1400ma and have some amazing battery life.
So allow me to say you are wrong! Software optimisation has a lot to do!
Besides when I wrote my last comment it was out of experience and not speculation. I always have the same apps and most of the time touchwiz (although it has more bloatware) had mich bettery life! So NO it's not only about the apps! There's something much deeper than that!
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No to being rude, but really doubt that HTC One can deliver 10hrs on browsing. Where did you get this info?
I owned H1 previously, even browsing via wifi, there is no way it could survive that long.
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No to being rude, but really doubt that HTC One can deliver 10hrs on browsing. Where did you get this info?
I owned H1 previously, even browsing via wifi, there is no way it could survive that long.
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No bro no offence taken don't worry!
Here it is: Yes believe your eyes: http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-battery-test-is-complete-results-are-in/
Please post a user than do that, 11 hrs of screen time, here in asop i get 5 a 6 hrs.
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Still can ´t find answer if GRAM works on AOSP roms. Every AOSP rom has really big drain from screen. On LG stock rom top one draining process is system.
So is it because LG rom is heavy bloated and android system on AOKP is so light that screen is bigger drainer or GRAM really doesn´t work on AOSP roms.
I have had my One M8 two weeks now, LOVING this phone, and one of the selling points to me personally, was the ablity to go flash the GPE Nexus type ROM, and not be stuck on Sense. And I am a huge Nexus stock Android fan, having owned the Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus 4, but after the N4 I moved on to Samsung's Note 2, and then Galaxy S4. So last experience with stock Android was 4.1 Jellybean, haven't played with any Kit Kat builds before.
Long story short, I am liking Sense 6 way more than GPE's Kit Kat 4.4.2. and I never would have thought or expected that in a million years, being such a long time Nexus fan. I tried out two different GPE ROM's this week, and certain things in stock Kit Kat I can't stand.
- #1 the Phone dialer / Contacts, wow those suck now, why did Google change the Phone app they've had since ICS 4.0 ? I use my phone a lot to actually make calls, this new new Dialer sucks, and the Contacts is super bright white and very plane, really no features on it. I have read that a whole new Phone dialer app is coming in a upcoming 4.4.3 update. But I miss the awesome Phone app from 4.0 to 4.3, which was all Black with blue numbers, and swipe to to the right to go to contacts, etc...
- #2 the icon sizes are gigantic, like crazy huge, can't fit much on the home screen, I know a Launcher gets rid of that, but sometimes I like to run bone stock, and with those giant icons it looks weird and silly.
- #3 Battery life is definitely worse than a Sense based ROM, by a good amount IMO. My Sense based ROM's were giving me crazy good battery life, like 6h to 7h On Screen time, and total battery life of 24+ hours easily. These two GPE ROM's I tired, would only give like 4h to 5h On screen time, and maybe 15 hours total battery life.
- #4 Speed. I was always under the impression that stock Android was way faster than a UI like Sense or Touchwiz. The Sense 6 ROM's I was running were super fast and silky smooth. The GPE ROM's were also pretty quick too, but no way did not feel any faster than Sense. Just going off my own personal use, it felt like Sense was the faster UI. My point being, stock GPE Android was NOT faster or smoother, no. It was a tie, and if anything Sense won by a hair.
- #5 The look of the UI. Sense 6 has a really cool black / white / blue theme going on, and flat design, it looks really professional, and minimalistic, just smartly designed and well thought out. Where stock Kit Kat is starting to look like a Hodge podge of old Ice Cream Sandwich mixed together with the newer Google Now cards stuff, it's like stock Android can't make up it's mind, is it still Holo themed, or going for the new lighter Card style ? The menu still looks the same as from the Galaxy Nexus from 2011, but other parts look very fresh and totally different. I think we need Android 5.0 to usher in a new uniform design theme for stock Android.
To wrap this up, I am no HTC fan boy, my last HTC was the EVO 4G way back from 2010. I am really more of a Nexus stock Android guy, I guess I just don't like the Kit Kat updates from Jellybean. I was very satisfied with Jellybean. And this Sense 6 blew me away, really shocked I actually like it better than stock Android. It looks great, is smartly designed and laid out, and is super smooth / fast, with insanely good battery life. Next stock Android phone or ROM I'll run will be to wait for at least 4.4.3, and most likely the next big update with the HTC Nexus-Six this Fall.
Wow I'd expect gpe to be faster and have better battery life due to its lack of bloat
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Wow I'd expect gpe to be faster and have better battery life due to its lack of bloat
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I remember when I had the HTC One X two years ago, it was common that those Sense based ROM's for that phone got way better battery life than Cyanogen or AOSP ROM's.
Same when I had the Note 2. The ROM's based off the stock Touchwiz got better battery life compared to the AOSP ROM's for the Note 2.
GPEdoeshave a better battery life, but the diff minimal. And yes, I'm running a GPE rom, but Sense 6 is easily my fav OEM skin.
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I remember when I had the HTC One X two years ago, it was common that those Sense based ROM's for that phone got way better battery life than Cyanogen or AOSP ROM's.
Same when I had the Note 2. The ROM's based off the stock Touchwiz got better battery life compared to the AOSP ROM's for the Note 2.
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Custom Roms don't count as those aosp Roms don't have the optimized drivers as the skinned OEM ones do. Gpe does....
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I don't really like sense, I find the settings to be rather annoying. My experience with battery life is that GPE is actually better
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Just some of my opinion here, manufacturers are starting to learn how to create a nice and smooth user interface.
I remember back in the "old" days when manufacturer firmwares were laggy as hell and CM was an alternative firmware that could actually provide users with a smooth user interface.
For my xperia z, stock firmware is SMOOTHER than CM AND has more features, there really is no reason for me to be using CM.
I think that is the similar case with the M8 here.
I agree, I love stock android, but sense 6 is very nice, i'm sticking with it (at least for the next few months)
I'd probably stay with GPE if it weren't for the fact that it doesn't support all the functions of the Dot View case. I'm going to go back to something like Android Revolution or InsertCoin.
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