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Hi,
last time i came in here unhappy with my stock HD2 on tmobUK android was just emerging on SD, now i came in here the other day WP7 is available as NAND and so is android....things seem to be a little confusing now, quite a few of these great ROMS are from people whos first language is not english so its quite hard to sometimes understand what they are explaining so i would be greatful if someone could answer somes questions, i have tried to read threads as best i can but some of them, well most actually are well into the hundreds within hours.
1) A lot of chefs describe NAND and SD, i know the difference between the two, but then they get mixed with magldr and NAND with ext4 etc etc..basically i want to flash the phones software to my NAND, i am assuming this is the best way to have it running at its optimum ?..so if i do this why would i need ext4 partions on the SD as well ? whats the benefit of it ?
2) i have also noticed that you can scan a barcode and have a link download a new rom to your phone and flash it, could i do this with ANY rom straight over the top of another without question ? and everything will be as it should be.
3) Does each ROM need to be set up in a different way?, this partly answers the previous question.
4) i flashed WP7 to my NAND (i think)..i was not happy with it and i had magldr installed, i just formatted my SD card to fat32 popped it back in and followed instructions to put [Feb 01][DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.6][Nand/SD/MAGLAR] on to it.... it took me into magldr and told me to do a few things...did this flash to my NAND ? and did it do what was needed to the SD card regarding format or was it up to me to make certain changes to the SD card myself ?..the phone works and i can make calls, but all the apps that are stated to be in the ROM are not there, i cant find any GPS stuff and when i go to market place itsays its downloading an app but i can never see it.
As you can see i really am quite discombobulated with all this...i would love a easy reading guide that explains everything from A-B and all the terminolgy.
Thanks.
1. Many of these Android roms would swamp the entire memory of the EU HD2, so a workaround is to have partitions on the sd cards to store apps and data, leaving the system to run on NAND. When you update your rom, you just flash the system files and all app and data remains on the sd card.
2. The QR code just allows you to download the rom to your phone. You would still need to flash it AFAIK. (Heven't tried one of those yet). There are basically 2 types of NAND Android roms. One type use the more conventional flash type where you run an exe (daf.exe) from the usb flasher option on magldr. The 2nd (more recent type) packs the roms as zips which you can download and copy to your sd card and then using Clockwork mod, you can flash the rom directly from your sd card. This also allows you to take full backups, try another rom and if you don't like it you merely restore the rom.
3.Each rom and each dev has their own way of building these roms, so you will need to read carefully regarding what to do wrt sd card partitions etc.
4. Flashing WP7 and the Android rom via magldr would have installed the rom to NAND. You would need to partition your sd card yourself prior to flashing the rom. There are tutorials on how to partition the sd card to give you more help.
loady said:
Hi,
last time i came in here unhappy with my stock HD2 on tmobUK android was just emerging on SD, now i came in here the other day WP7 is available as NAND and so is android....things seem to be a little confusing now, quite a few of these great ROMS are from people whos first language is not english so its quite hard to sometimes understand what they are explaining so i would be greatful if someone could answer somes questions, i have tried to read threads as best i can but some of them, well most actually are well into the hundreds within hours.
1) A lot of chefs describe NAND and SD, i know the difference between the two, but then they get mixed with magldr and NAND with ext4 etc etc..basically i want to flash the phones software to my NAND, i am assuming this is the best way to have it running at its optimum ?..so if i do this why would i need ext4 partions on the SD as well ? whats the benefit of it ?
2) i have also noticed that you can scan a barcode and have a link download a new rom to your phone and flash it, could i do this with ANY rom straight over the top of another without question ? and everything will be as it should be.
3) Does each ROM need to be set up in a different way?, this partly answers the previous question.
4) i flashed WP7 to my NAND (i think)..i was not happy with it and i had magldr installed, i just formatted my SD card to fat32 popped it back in and followed instructions to put [Feb 01][DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.6][Nand/SD/MAGLAR] on to it.... it took me into magldr and told me to do a few things...did this flash to my NAND ? and did it do what was needed to the SD card regarding format or was it up to me to make certain changes to the SD card myself ?..the phone works and i can make calls, but all the apps that are stated to be in the ROM are not there, i cant find any GPS stuff and when i go to market place itsays its downloading an app but i can never see it.
As you can see i really am quite discombobulated with all this...i would love a easy reading guide that explains everything from A-B and all the terminolgy.
Thanks.
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1) MAGLDR is nothing but kind of a bootloader. You can select how you want to start your ROM. AD SD or NAND or also now you can back up ROMS with MAGLDR... SD ROMS use haret.exe method. NAND uses DFT.exe method. there is another way called Clockwork MOD which uses .zip method.
Differences:-
SD Method: you have winmo 6.5 on NAND and android on SD card.
NAND Method: you install android on NAND itself.
Clockwork MOD: you install android on NAND but the benefits include you can backup your whole ROM in the actual state and flash it back later... So you can try different ROMs without worrying about installing apps and adjusting settings on the ones you like.
ext4 is a type of partition used by system. you can use the ROM which supports APP2SD and put your apps on ext4 partition.
2) As for the barcode ones. I am not sure how that works, but deffinately not as easy as you are thinking...
3) All the NAND roms use DAF.exe method so you do not need to worry about setting up the ROMs or anything. It does it for you. But some NAND roms have capabilities for APP2SD, in that case you might have to format your SD card in some particular way (explained in the threads always) to get ext2/3/4 partition to use app2sd.
4) you can flash WP7 only on NAND as there is no other way to do it for now. As for the new build you used, it has more than 1 versions. SD and NAND. If you followed the instructions for NAND and used DAF.exe to install it, then the ROM is already set up for you on NAND. Now the build you used had data2sd option and you can format your SD card as the author has said to use app2sd functionality.
One more thing, mostly TMO US users do not need app2sd as they have enough space on their phone. So if you are TMO US user, you can opt your self out from that headache.
Hope this helps. Just for the clarification, I am also a newb... I tried my level best to answer your questions...
QR codes are just text, in this case a URL. Instead of making you type the URL on your phone, you can just scan it with a special app, and get taken to the URL. Nothing more.
Thanks guys...the fog is clearing a little now...just a few reiterations..
So if i opt to flash to NAND, is it flashing it to the NAND upon each boot or is it written once and thats it, it seems to take a little while longer to boot these ROMS on NAND than a stock ROM..so for instance, if i was to remove the SD card after shutting down the phone and then start it up again, would it not boot because its looking for the ROM on the SD to put into NAND ?...i understand that running from the SD card it just boots from the SD card.
So basically the last ROM i installed, as i did not pre setup the partitions on SD card, FAT32/1024mb ext4/512mb ext4 and went on to flash the rom it has ONLY flashed the ROM WITHOUT the apps and everything else it was supposed to have pre installed already ?...so i have now setup my SD card and i am going to follow through again from scratch and hopefully have the ROM running with all the said apps.
My SD card being setup FAT32 / 1024 ext4 / 512 ext4 doesnt seem to be a lot of space to store apps on the ext4 partitions, what data goes on what partitions...and do i HAVE to have the ext 4 at the stated sizes ?
Thanks again guys for your input, you have all been really helpful.
loady said:
Thanks guys...the fog is clearing a little now...just a few reiterations..
So if i opt to flash to NAND, is it flashing it to the NAND upon each boot or is it written once and thats it, it seems to take a little while longer to boot these ROMS on NAND than a stock ROM..so for instance, if i was to remove the SD card after shutting down the phone and then start it up again, would it not boot because its looking for the ROM on the SD to put into NAND ?...i understand that running from the SD card it just boots from the SD card.
So basically the last ROM i installed, as i did not pre setup the partitions on SD card, FAT32/1024mb ext4/512mb ext4 and went on to flash the rom it has ONLY flashed the ROM WITHOUT the apps and everything else it was supposed to have pre installed already ?...so i have now setup my SD card and i am going to follow through again from scratch and hopefully have the ROM running with all the said apps.
My SD card being setup FAT32 / 1024 ext4 / 512 ext4 doesnt seem to be a lot of space to store apps on the ext4 partitions, what data goes on what partitions...and do i HAVE to have the ext 4 at the stated sizes ?
Thanks again guys for your input, you have all been really helpful.
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If you use NAND then you can start your phone without SD card. The build is on NAND(ROM). Where win6.5 used to be originally. You do not HAVE TO partition your card. You can use whole card at FAT32 and store all your data on there. But if you choose, you can give some storage space as ext2/3/4 partition and store your apps in that partition. The benefit is you can free some space from your phone. When you boot your phone for the first time, it will be in original state. Then you can install apps from the market. These apps will be going to your phone's inbuilt memory by default. But you can use some apps to move apps from your phone storage to ext4 partition. But be aware that after you move your apps to SD card you have to have SD card in all times or those apps will not work when SD card is not there. As far as the size of ext4 partition is in question, 1024 MB is more than enough. As you will have some space on your phone and 1024MB on ext4. I would say if you install more apps than that, then you phone will be laggy like hell. ext4 partition size should not matter according to me.
Also read tutorials at this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
^ Agreed. Don't do Apps2SD if you don't really need it. It's another possible source of problems (I've had my fair share of system crashes with A2SD on my ol' Magic, and the biggest problem was that there was no way of backing stuff up - stuff probably got more reliable nowadays though), it's not ideal for your SD card and speed isn't optimal either.
StephanV said:
^ Agreed. Don't do Apps2SD if you don't really need it. It's another possible source of problems (I've had my fair share of system crashes with A2SD on my ol' Magic, and the biggest problem was that there was no way of backing stuff up - stuff probably got more reliable nowadays though), it's not ideal for your SD card and speed isn't optimal either.
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People would have you believe otherwise..ext4 is faster but ext2 parsay is more reliable... for the life of me i have followed numerous guides explaining how to format the card, even one i followed from a rom was in perfect enlgish and easy to follow but my phone just locks at the spinning tmobile logo, it wont even boot into magldr...all i can do is reflash a stock rom using RUU...im sure i am doing everything in correct order
Thread update.
I am now working on providing tutorials for the following.
One card method - I am looking to improve this if I can.
Two card method - This is for micro SD cards over 8gb. There seems to be issues when using 16gb card with the one card method so I am now extensively looking into this to provide tutorial to make larger Android partitions than WP7 if you wanted (As WP7 takes the largest partition with the one card method)
Android SD Magldr Builds - More support and more intuitive tutorials for setting up all known SD Magldr Builds.
I am also looking into alternative ways to the above. I have lots of ideas and theories to improve speed, functionality, setup and configuring you PC/Laptop for convenience to performing the 2 card method, not just for now but for when you do this again in the future. For example, you may wish to install the latest WP7 ROM. The tools are already included in Windows operating systems later than XP. I am now experimenting this and so far, it looks good.
If there are any requests on what else I should provide support or tutorials for, the please feel free to leave you comments either by private message or through this thread.
Please be patient with me as I am trying out the above to make it as clear and hassle free as possible. I have learned a lot from Xda and this is my way of giving back and helping others.
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In this thread I have put together a tutorial on how to dual boot WP7 and Android using the one card method. To use Android, the build must be one that has been adapted to work via Magldr. Builds which has been kindly adapted by zarathustrax are on Post 2 so please show your thanks to him for taking time to convert them for us to use.
This tutorial presumes you already know your way around Magldr and know what buttons to press to select etc. If you need any help then let me know. I will help the best I can but cant always promise to be online. The tutorial recommends you use a SD card reader instead of Mass Storage in Magldr as Mass Storage is not always reliable.
1/ Download a WP7 and Android Build (Maglrd Build) you want to use.
2/ Run DWI.exe to install WP7 to your phone.
3/ Go through the setup and once it tells you that you have a new SMS which is welcoming you to WP7 go to Settings - About - Reset Your Phone and once phone restarts hold power to enter into Magldr.
4/ Remove SD card and insert it into the computer.
5/ I used Minitools Partition Wizard which you can get HERE, the Home version is free. Start the program and you will see two partitions on your SD card. Right click and delete the largest partition, this will leave you with Unallocated partition.
6/ Now right click the Unallocated partition and select Create. Leave 'Create As' as Logical and 'File System' as Unformatted. Under 'Size and Location', slide your Unallocated space to the right to roughly half the size of your SD card so the blank grey area is on the left. Click OK.
7/ Now click on Apply (The tick) and when it comes up saying Successful (This may take a while), remove your SD card and put it back into your phone and shut down Partition Manager.
8/ Boot up WP7 and go through the setup again. Once the message beeps again to say welcome to WP7, go to Settings - About and look at the 'Total Storage' and 'Available Storage'. These values should now be roughly the same.
9/ Hold Power button to restart and hold Power to enter into Magldr. Remove SD card and put it back in your card reader. Open Partition Wizard again, right click on the 200MB Other partition and select Delete. Right click on the new Unallocated partition and select Create. The File System should be Fat32 and set as Primary. Click Ok and Apply (The tick).
10/ When all the changes has been applied click OK and right click on the Other partition and select Modify and then Set Partition As Primary. This is important to run Android as well as WP7. If Partition were still Logical then once Android Build was loaded it would not recognise anything off your memory card . Put the SD card back into your phone and boot WP7 and exit Partition Manager.
11/ In WP7, go to Settings - About and double check the Total Storage and Available Storage to see if they are the same as before, they should be except the one should now be 200mb larger.
12/ Power off and insert SD card back into your card reader.
13/ This time start Computer or My Computer depending what version of Windows you are running. Move the Android Magldr folder to your SD card and read the instructions to set boot settings in Magldr. This time I will Boot MarkinXHDExtraClean Magldr Build but DL Desire Magldr build worked for me just as good as Nand. You can also use one of the builds in Post 2.
14/ Once Android folder has been copied, remove the SD card and put it back into your phone. When in Magldr, press the volume buttons up and down until you get to Services - BootSettings - AD SD Dir. For MarkinuXHDExtraClean Build the zImage and initrd.gz are on the main directory of the SD card so select <->. Always read the chefs installation instructions.
15/ You should now be in the main Magldr menu. Press vol buttons and select Boot AD SD.
Congratulations.......you know have WP7 and Android dual booting on your device. If this tutorial helped you, then please hit the Thanks button.
I'm beginning to turn this post into a collection of the builds that I've edited to work with magldr to dualboot with wp7. I am keeping these builds in my dropbox for quick and easy download... just right click the download link and select "save link as". I am just including the entire build for most of these for convenience, because some of the builds needed the init.rc file edited after the build was booted up once, as there were updates and files that get installed on first boot and the init.rc file was changed back to normal... so all the builds here have any updates or files in a root folder already installed, so they are all ready to go... just unrar and copy build folder to root of sd card, and be sure to tell magldr which folder to boot android from. Most builds include a new 1gb data.img or they create one on first boot, in which case it may take 5-10min.
All credit for the builds go to the chefs of each build... all I did was modify the init.rc file so it could be successfully booted with magldr. If any chef does not want me posting a download link of your build here, and would prefer I just post the edited files or not post anything about your build at all, please pm me and I will remove the link immediately. I am not trying to take credit for any of these builds... I am just trying to make it easier for people to install and run.
So, here's the builds:
JDMS- Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/JDMS.rar Build thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
HD2One 3.6- Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/HD2ONE.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885933
PhireMod SkinnyEvo 2.1 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/phiremod_SkinnyEvo_v2.1MAGLDR_Edited.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791835
Cedesmith's Desire HD2 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Cedesmith DesireHD2 Magldr.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
EVO Carbon Remix 0.6 Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Motoman234_EVO_Carbon_Remix_V0.6MAGLDR.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839410
EVO Black&Blue Remix v0.4a Edited build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/Motoman234_Evo_Black&Blue_V0.4aMAGLDR.rar Build thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631
Darkstone SuperRam Build and Sense RAM build Edited by LeTama This is not edited by me, but by Letama. I am putting links here for easy download for convenience and so all the edited builds can be collected in this one post. These builds will take a couple reboots sometimes before they fully boot up, but once you get them fully booted and going, they should boot up everytime afterwards. DS SuperRAM 1.5: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/DSsuperramMAGLDR.zip DS SuperRam SENSE 0.1: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10979883/darkstone_ram_sense_magldr_sd.zip
Remember, to download, just right click link and select save link as.
I have more edited, and will be adding more to this post as I get time to organize the post and builds and make space in my dropbox. If you have requests on what builds I should add next, or have any questions, feel free to pm me. I have gotten most builds I have tried working well booting from SD with MAGLDR. ENJOY!
ALSO.... I've had a few problems recently with my computer corrupting some of my edited rootfs.img's... I think all of the one's listed so far are ok, but if anyone has a problem with any of them running, please pm me and let me know so I can fix it. I'm re-editing some more builds soon, so I will add the rest of the builds I've got running to this post soon.
Very nice tutorial and easy to follow. I had problems before when I tried it and almost gave up.
Thanks
I used the original posted guide to get mine working, albeit I struggled initially due to not reading it properly. If your new guide helps more persons to get WP7 and Android dual booting then that is great BTW I am using this CM7 Gingerbread build on my android partition and it works great, just need to follow the additional instructions in the install folder for getting it to boot via MAGLDR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
aenedor said:
I used the original posted guide to get mine working, albeit I struggled initially due to not reading it properly. If your new guide helps more persons to get WP7 and Android dual booting then that is great BTW I am using this CM7 Gingerbread build on my android partition and it works great, just need to follow the additional instructions in the install folder for getting it to boot via MAGLDR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
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Thanks for your feedback and I have to agree that with the original tutorial, I did struggle with it myself. Also it shows a few ways to do it. The one is a very long process copying one partition to another which dont apply for most people.
I posted this to try and make it clearer and easier to follow. I also focused on using only application for partition management where the original told you to use two.
Thanks for letting us know about the CM7 Gingerbread build. Most builds can be modified in a Linux Distro where just editing one line will make the SD build boot in Magldr.
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
out of curiousity,
Can the both of them share the same set of media files? or do you need two sets of it, one for the android partition, one for the WP7 partition.
Jackuuuuu said:
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
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You forgot to change the wp7 partition from logical to primary. That will solve that.
desperation52 said:
out of curiousity,
Can the both of them share the same set of media files? or do you need two sets of it, one for the android partition, one for the WP7 partition.
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No, they can't share files. WP7 only reads it's partition and android only reads it's partition.
That's why I like to use dropbox with both of them. I can keep music or files in my dropbox and access them easily from both OS's. There's several dropbox apps for both wp7 and android. It also makes it easy to transfer files to my phone without having to hook it up to the computer or take the card out or deal with zune. Use my referral link below in my signature to get an extra 250mb added to the initial 2gb you get for free when you sign up and install the dropbox app to a computer.
zarathustrax said:
You forgot to change the wp7 partition from logical to primary. That will solve that.
No, they can't share files. WP7 only reads it's partition and android only reads it's partition.
That's why I like to use dropbox with both of them. I can keep music or files in my dropbox and access them easily from both OS's. There's several dropbox apps for both wp7 and android. It also makes it easy to transfer files to my phone without having to hook it up to the computer or take the card out or deal with zune. Use my referral link below in my signature to get an extra 250mb added to the initial 2gb you get for free when you sign up and install the dropbox app to a computer.
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Thanks for taking time to answer the questions in my thread. I normally would have been around to answer them myself except I am doing a very long and painful task of backing up over 150gb off my hard drive before I restore my notebook to factory settings.
You answered them beautifully lol
Jackuuuuu said:
Thanks so much for the guide and the Android Rom recommendation.
I got a question...
I got Android successfully booted, however under Android environment, it says no SD card is present. I'm using the DL Desire Magldr build.
Do I need to make another partition???
Any help is appreciated
Thanks!
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The answer to the question and the how to is in the tutorial above. I have copied it for you for your convenience.
Make sure you have switched off your phone because you will loose info if you just extract the SD card in WP7, insert SD card into a card reader on your PC. In Partition Manager.....
'Right click on the Other partition and select Modify and then Set Partition As Primary. This is important to run Android as well as WP7. If Partition were still Logical then once Android Build was loaded it would not recognise anything off your memory card.'
Thank you I'll be trying it soon
AndHD2 said:
Thanks for taking time to answer the questions in my thread. I normally would have been around to answer them myself except I am doing a very long and painful task of backing up over 150gb off my hard drive before I restore my notebook to factory settings.
You answered them beautifully lol
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No problem... I was very active in the other dualboot thread, too. You did a good job writing this tutorial up, so hopefully there won't be too many people confused, but I'll be around to help answer peoples questions, too. I figure once a thread is public, it's up to everyone who knows to help everyone out who's having problems... that's what this community is about... plus the more people that get involved in problem solving, the more we find easier and better ways of doing things. It was actually hyellow and me that figured out that you need to change the partition from logical to primary when I was having the problem of not being able to mount the card in android. It was fun watching and helping the method that you have posted evolve over several days and get easier and quicker to do.
Also, I was thinking that I might collect all my edited SD builds (I've got almost every build working) in to my dropbox and post the links to them in the second post to make it easier for people following this tutorial to grab a build that's already edited to work with magldr. What do you think?
htc hd2 overheats when dual boots
I have dual booted my HD2 using an 8 GB and 16 GB SD card. I got everything up and running and the bottom one third of the HD2 gets hot and freezes or reboots every time . When I placed one rom on the device, the device runs normally. Can anyone advise what might be the problem and the solution.
Randy Hoover said:
I have dual booted my HD2 using an 8 GB and 16 GB SD card. I got everything up and running and the bottom one third of the HD2 gets hot and freezes or reboots every time . When I placed one rom on the device, the device runs normally. Can anyone advise what might be the problem and the solution.
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Can you provide a bit more clarity to your problem.
Does this happen with both the 8gb and 16gb cards? Also what build are you using when your phone gets hot and restarts or freezes?
I find it strange that it is fine when you are using either Android or WP7 without dual boot as you are using only one build at a time when dual booting. You are only gaining access to different partitions on your card, pretty much the same as you would if you have an EXT2/3/4 partition for data saving in Android. Do you still have the same problem if you partition you SD card for a EXT2/3/4 for data saving?
From what you have said the only possible reason is somehow your phone might have a problem dealing with partitions because in theory dual booting runs either one or another and shouldnt be different if you were using only Android or WP7.
Using Minitool's Partition Manager, you might also want to try formatting the Fat32 partition by right clicking on Fat32 partition, click on Format and choosing the cluster size to 32. Save these changes and try again.
The solution could be setting up Android to work properly. In DL Desire's build, there are quite a few options as to how you save your data. You have the save to Data.Img file which must be placed inside the directory for the build, and without going through every type there is also save to EXT2/3/4. You must alter the values in the Config.txt file for the build to know where to save data. Double check you have setup the Config.txt file correctly as you could be telling the build to save to EXT2/3/4 when there is not one. I dont know but it could affect the WP7 partition so it corrupts it and causes the above mentioned problems. Always read the chefs installation notes. Try installing MarkinXHD Extra Clean Magldr Build instead of DL Desire just to make sure.
Can anyone else throw any solutions to this problem?
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No problem... I was very active in the other dualboot thread, too. You did a good job writing this tutorial up, so hopefully there won't be too many people confused, but I'll be around to help answer peoples questions, too. I figure once a thread is public, it's up to everyone who knows to help everyone out who's having problems... that's what this community is about... plus the more people that get involved in problem solving, the more we find easier and better ways of doing things. It was actually hyellow and me that figured out that you need to change the partition from logical to primary when I was having the problem of not being able to mount the card in android. It was fun watching and helping the method that you have posted evolve over several days and get easier and quicker to do.
Also, I was thinking that I might collect all my edited SD builds (I've got almost every build working) in to my dropbox and post the links to them in the second post to make it easier for people following this tutorial to grab a build that's already edited to work with magldr. What do you think?
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I completely agree with the community sharing knowledge and that was one of the main reasons for me posting this tutorial. I am a strong believer in if you give a man a fish, then you have provided one dinner but if you teach that man to fish, then he has a lifetime worth of meals.
It would be very generous for you to share the builds you have converted to boot into Magldr as it would give people more options to what build they can choose to dual boot WP7 with. As a matter of fact, being certified in Microsoft, I was looking into doing this myself and was the next mission for me. I have limited Linux use but I am starting to sink my teeth into it and become fluent.
I post a video here if you like to follow by visualization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
Hey which would be the best way to do this activate my phone when i get it then flash, or flash and activate the phone service after i install the Os's.
jab12 said:
Hey which would be the best way to do this activate my phone when i get it then flash, or flash and activate the phone service after i install the Os's.
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What do you mean by activate? Do you mean get your activation code? If so, get it anytime... you will need the activation code to use live services in wp7 anytime you flash a new wp7 rom. If you mean activate your cell phone service, that can be done at any time, also.
georo said:
I post a video here if you like to follow by visualization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
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Thank you for the YouTube link to the same process as described in this tutorial.
I have watched the video and it does not mention that you have to change the Unfomatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is essential if you want to use the camera and to gain access to other files such as music from you SD card. Also in the video it is being demonstrated in Easeus Partition Manager. This is a good program but with it you cant change the Unformatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is the main reason I chose to use Minitool Partition Wizard. With this program everything can be done.
AndHD2 said:
Thank you for the YouTube link to the same process as described in this tutorial.
I have watched the video and it does not mention that you have to change the Unfomatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is essential if you want to use the camera and to gain access to other files such as music from you SD card. Also in the video it is being demonstrated in Easeus Partition Manager. This is a good program but with it you cant change the Unformatted partition from Logical to Primary. This is the main reason I chose to use Minitool Partition Wizard. With this program everything can be done.
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If you look in the description there is a link to the minitool and a description why you have to use the tool. The original thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
1. BACK UP YOUR MEMORY CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER AS THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING!!==== THIS IS IMPORTANT
2. Reboot into recovery (Use Amon RA 2.3==NOTHING OTHER THEN AMON )
3. Select =Partition sdcard=
4. Select =Partition SD=
5. Set swap to 0 (you can leave this at 32mb, I did.)
6. Ext2-size = 2048 (2GB - the 3.0 packages eat up a lot of the internal memory, you can adjust this lower, but 2GB is recommended if you have a lot of apps I did 2 and a half)
7. Select upgrade ext2 to ext3 ===DO NOT UPGRADE EXT 3 TO EXT 4=====
8.. Now go back and mount your SD card
9.. Place all your files back on the card. Also add the ROM, PRI 1.77 downgrade is recommended you will have WAKE ISSUES IF YOU DON'T.
10. If you have to flash the PRI, do so now and reboot. If not, move on.
12. Wipe everything you normally would prior to flashing a new rom.
13. Flash Kingdom
14. First boot takes about 3 to 5 mintues to get started.
15. ENJOY THE ROM FOLKS
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE LATEST OTA RADIOS.
THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HAVING ISSUES WHEN THEY PARTITIONED THERE SD CARDS AND THERE PHONES COULDN'T BOOT THE ROM.
THOSE THAT HAD THE ISSUES MUST OF UPGRADED EXT 3 TO EXT 4 WHEN THEY PARTITIONED. IT'S NOT THE ROM IT WAS USER ERROR PEOPLE.
IF YOU DID UPGRADE EXT 3 TO EXT 4 YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BOOT THE ROM YOU GET STUCK AT THE BOOT SCREEN AND IT WILL HANG. ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT IS TO WIPE THE SD CARD AND RE PARTITION.
DO NOT BLAME THE DEVS FOR SOMETHING YOU DID WRONG. THANKS
THERE IS A GFX FIX THAT SMOOTHS THE ROM OUT. GET IT THEN AFTER THE ROM IS INSTALLED REBOOT TO RECOVERY AND WIPE CACHE AND DAVLIX CACHE FLASH AND YOUR ALL GOOD. I WILL POST THE ATTACHMENTS TONIGHT FOR YA.
IF YOU ARE ON THE NEWEST KINGDOMS SUCH AS 6/22 OR GREATER NO NEED FOR THE GFX FIX. HOPE YOU GUYS LOVE KINGDOM.
I am not liable if you brick your sd card I don't know anyone that has so have fun folks.
Hope this helps stop people from hammering virus and dogging the rom's.
It's funny how people on the kingdom thread ask for directions but never look in the general threads to flashing kingdom or browse the threads on there for the info. Kingdom works fine.
reaper24 said:
It's funny how people on the kingdom thread ask for directions but never look in the general threads to flashing kingdom or browse the threads on there for the info. Kingdom works fine.
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part of the issue is that as a noob to rooting and flashing we are overly excited and are full of questions. i love the kingdom roms and hate that i can not ask questions in the thread regarding any issues i may be having or even a simple question like how to properly flash it. ive attempted to use the search thread and still its confusing. so i appriciate it when i come across something like this that teaches us noobs how to do it. a little instruction goes along way. ive tried to navigate the xda site on my own and have actually learned more through thread such as this than i did going solo! anyway thanks for all the help hope to pay it forward someday
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part of the issue is that as a noob to rooting and flashing we are overly excited and are full of questions. i love the kingdom roms and hate that i can not ask questions in the thread regarding any issues i may be having or even a simple question like how to properly flash it. ive attempted to use the search thread and still its confusing. so i appriciate it when i come across something like this that teaches us noobs how to do it. a little instruction goes along way. ive tried to navigate the xda site on my own and have actually learned more through thread such as this than i did going solo! anyway thanks for all the help hope to pay it forward someday
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Happy you figured it out mayne. Thank you for reading. To many new folks were bad mouthing virus rom due to not reading things. Happy you got what you needed bro.
So I'm getting a new 32gb card and was wondering if I have to put everything from my old card on if I want to start fresh. I think the only thing I'd want move back is my latest nandroid backup.
Also do you still recommend to repeat step 7 three times?
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DarthBelan said:
So I'm getting a new 32gb card and was wondering if I have to put everything from my old card on if I want to start fresh. I think the only thing I'd want move back is my latest nandroid backup.
Also do you still recommend to repeat step 7 three times?
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Ya u will have to put all your old stuff on new card. No step 7 just once don't upgrade ext 3 to ext 4 or it will Fuc% ur day up lol.
step 8 says to mount sd card. ive done this but when i go back and check it still says mount sd card does this mean i did not properly mount it?
system rom 367mb/19mb free
internal 446/225mb free
sd 29.5gb/28.6gb free
a2sd 2.26gb/2.07gb free
thesabri said:
step 8 says to mount sd card. ive done this but when i go back and check it still says mount sd card does this mean i did not properly mount it?
system rom 367mb/19mb free
internal 446/225mb free
sd 29.5gb/28.6gb free
a2sd 2.26gb/2.07gb free
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Just mount it that one time copy all your stuff back and your good to go
reaper24 said:
Just mount it that one time copy all your stuff back and your good to go
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It usally does that for some reason everytime you wipe through amon when your getting ready to flash a new rom nothing to worry about never had any issues. I only mounted it once copied my stuff flashed rom.
nice tut
but how do u find out if u have partitioned it successfully
cuz i checked it with titanium backup and its saying that i only have 300+ mb space in total as my a2sd drive
flex360 said:
nice tut
but how do u find out if u have partitioned it successfully
cuz i checked it with titanium backup and its saying that i only have 300+ mb space in total as my a2sd drive
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I use the applications in the menu. When you check everything . Titanium doesn't read the same as the applications. I have 220 free ram left. Internal 210 left
You are partitioned you won't get a low mem message saying your outta ram.
Thanks man! now i using sense 3.0 in my old evo 4g... wahooo!!!
When I click Mount SD....nothing happens.
Do I reboot?
mcwups1 said:
When I click Mount SD....nothing happens.
Do I reboot?
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It should of mounted go back to it and see if it is mounted. Then once it's mounted copy all your old stuff back to the SD wipe if you need to like you would prior to flashing a rom. Then have at it
reaper24 said:
It should of mounted go back to it and see if it is mounted. Then once it's mounted copy all your old stuff back to the SD wipe if you need to like you would prior to flashing a rom. Then have at it
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I mount in recovery?
I upgraded ext2 to ext3, says it's complete, then I went down to "Mounts", then "Mount /sdcard"......did nothing but change to "Unmount /sdcard".
Nothing else has come up.
Am I suppose to just reboot after the "ext2 to ext3" is complete?
Just enabled "USB-MS" and my SD card came up.
I don't know if that's something I should have done a while ago, but it looks like it's transfering all my .zips and my Titanium Backups to the SD card.
Maybe add that option to the tutorial for dopes like me who didn't have the USB-MS function enabled!
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I mount in recovery?
I upgraded ext2 to ext3, says it's complete, then I went down to "Mounts", then "Mount /sdcard"......did nothing but change to "Unmount /sdcard".
Nothing else has come up.
Am I suppose to just reboot after the "ext2 to ext3" is complete?
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It's mounted man .
mcwups1 said:
Just enabled "USB-MS" and my SD card came up.
I don't know if that's something I should have done a while ago, but it looks like it's transfering all my .zips and my Titanium Backups to the SD card.
Maybe add that option to the tutorial for dopes like me who didn't have the USB-MS function enabled!
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Ya after u mount you enable usb from the main menu of amon copy ur stuff back over. Your good to start flashing just make sure you wipe like you normally would prior to flashing a rom.
Downgrade pri then flash rom and so on
Hey guys, I;m appealing for a little help here.
I have an HTC HD2 which has been great for about a year but all of a sudden it has problems.
I;ve been using this rom pretty much since it came out....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
I;ve never had any problems with it untill now. I started to get the "insufficient storeage space available" message on it so I assumed a restore/reflash would solve the problem.
I used HD2 toolkit to resize my MAGLDR partition to 450MB & reflashed - the phone wouldnt boot. Stuck on the HTC logo.
Repartitioned to 400 - still no boot!
Repartitioned to 350 - still no boot!
Repartitioned to 300MB - phone now boots however now, I;ve installed no apps & when I try to install spotify, its telling me insufficient storeage available, again! With nothing on the phone except the ROM!
I'm a bit of a n00b with all this stuff, but had my HD2 running fine for ages & its frustrating me that now it wont work properly!
Anyone care to help? THanks, Cardz.
Edit: im using MAGLDR 1.13 & the latest Clockwork mod to flash the ROM. I'm wiping cache & data partitions every time...... :/
Install it with as lower as possible space for system partition. In your case it shoud be 135MB of system partition and 2MB cache but I recommend to put some more of space for system partition as I had some problems with low system partition so you can put 150MB for system partition.
The simple explanation of why you dont have enough of space for apps is that you gave too much of space for system partition and simply this ROM does not require that much of space for system partition. And other space left in your phone memory will be used for apps etc.
EDIT: And also try to install MAGLDR and CWM manually if you can and when you install CWM edit flash.cfg in WordPad or other text editing tool before you flash CWM and edit system partition size to 150MB and Cache size to 2MB
jan.selep said:
EDIT: And also try to install MAGLDR and CWM manually if you can and when you install CWM edit flash.cfg in WordPad or other text editing tool before you flash CWM and edit system partition size to 150MB and Cache size to 2MB
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Thanks a lot for the reply, i understand now about the 150MB/2MB cache, but what is the point of this other bit? Could you explain more the purpose of this?>
cardyology said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, i understand now about the 150MB/2MB cache, but what is the point of this other bit? Could you explain more the purpose of this?>
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Well to simply explain you why i wrote you to use manual installation of CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY was that I wanted to explain you how is it working with partitioning your nand memory using cwr or magldr. I just added some helpfull info for you from my experience with HD2 and android flashing. So in the future you will know what to do and you will be able to uderstand more from technical point of view about flashing etc. I just wanted.to share some of my experience with you
But it is up to you if you want to use hd2 toolkit or manual configuration.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
You can also use 4ext recovery instead of clockwork...
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Afaik it's better to post in a similar topic than create a new one, so here I go.
I have recently switched to an ICS NAND rom and since then I keep having constant storage problems. I understand that in order to solve that I have to partition my SD card but it seems, since I don't really understand the whole android storage management process too deeply, I am not doing things properly cause I keep getting "Low on space" notifications. I attach some screenshots below in order to give you more info about my sd card partitions and rom specs. Please let me know what I did wrong and how I can solve it. I understand I will probably need to repartition and reflash the devide again?
Edit: The screenshots I have attached don't have 2nd part mounted, going to upload proper screens in a minute. Done.
Edit 2: Will this fix my problems?
(cant post proper links yet)
wwwDOTjayceooiDOTcom/2011/12/26/how-to-create-custom-clockworkmod-recovery-partition-size-for-htc-hd2/
You are mixing different things. In the first post of this thread the issue was the partitioning of the internal Flash-ROM in the Phone.
You wrote about the SD card partitioning and these things are totally different.
I think, you have a problem with your internal memory and you have to try the same things like cardyology has done after the hint from jan.selep.
Partitioning for Ubuntu's users
I don't find the way to modify partitioning of the internal Flash-ROM when you are an Ubuntu user on PC (no Windows boot anywhere..)
Monolecte said:
I don't find the way to modify partitioning of the internal Flash-ROM when you are an Ubuntu user on PC (no Windows boot anywhere..)
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If you use cLK instead of magldr you can repartition from the cLK bootloader, , no PC necessary.
Before you say 'I cant install cLK without a PC', there is a version of cLK you can flash from sd card.
It will mean you have to resinstall your rom, though.
I believe more simple to find a Windows PC...
dont see why it should take any more than 25 minutes to accomplish, properly prepared.
samsamuel said:
dont see why it should take any more than 25 minutes to accomplish, properly prepared.
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Hummmm because the Murphy's law? :crying:
I found a Windows PC, I downloaded the HD2 Toolkit... but not the good one, because the last version don't works with 32 bits PC. So, I found the good one, I saved all my stuff, I tried to repartition and... I miss a dll and other bull****... 2 hours later, I thought is too long to be good and I sought a lighter ROM (I understood Hyperdroid CM7 has a 150 Mo system partition : it's very short!), but, I found nothing with ICS or JB, only GB... pfff.
So, I took a week to flash ROM, I read miles of thread, hours to understand how my device working and each time I found a solution, each time I have at less a new issue to solve. It pissed me of.
Monolecte said:
Hummmm because the Murphy's law?
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Haven't you heard? Murphy was an optimist!
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If you have a 50% chance of being right, you will be wrong 90% of the time...
NYLimited said:
Haven't you heard? Murphy was an optimist!
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If you have a 50% chance of being right, you will be wrong 90% of the time...
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You're right : I did it!!!
Miles of threads here was usefull indeed!
I won against the machine!
Youpi!
Monolecte said:
You're right : I did it!!!
Miles of threads here was usefull indeed!
I won against the machine!
Youpi!
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CONGRATULATIONS! I love a happy ending!
And, if you read only 10% of the posts some of us read your would find it rather refreshing too!
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looking to get android on my htc hd2 first time with this phone.
no experience what so ever, any pointers or links would be greatly appreciated.
thank you very much
naifs_br10 said:
looking to get android on my htc hd2 first time with this phone.
no experience what so ever, any pointers or links would be greatly appreciated.
thank you very much
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Really the best place to start is the search bar, but to make it easy for you just follow the guide in my sig.
01.HD2 toolkit
02. A rom you want to use
03. youtube, and search step by step
Nigeldg said:
Really the best place to start is the search bar, but to make it easy for you just follow the guide in my sig.
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how can i check what version the radios and everything else so i can flash spl? or hspl ? or magldr ?
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWSrE3J_8Og <---------------- used this video to install android and its 2.3 right now but looking to install jb rom how can i do that and what do i need to know still kind of confused of how to do things but want to learn. please help thanks
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lots & lots of tutorials here & just like Nigeldg said, try using the search bar :good:
mengfei said:
lots & lots of tutorials here & just like Nigeldg said, try using the search bar :good:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224469
tried installing this rom above but stuck in loop comes to htc and then reboots by itself. any ideas on that ?
What's your /system partition size? Make sure it's enough for the ROM you're trying to flash. Since the other ROM you flashed worked I'm fairly sure it's not to do with radio or SPL version.
Nigeldg said:
What's your /system partition size? Make sure it's enough for the ROM you're trying to flash. Since the other ROM you flashed worked I'm fairly sure it's not to do with radio or SPL version.
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300mb over 45 mb . none of the roms worked that i tried to flash so far they are in bootloop. i think i have old recovery but how to update to new recovery ?
Do you have an EXT partition on your SD card as well? You'll need one of those if you don't. Also, flash a 285MB partition and change your cache size to 5MB, no ROMs use 45 as far as I know. Right now you're wasting 55MB of your internal storage because your partition sizes are too big.
Nigeldg said:
Do you have an EXT partition on your SD card as well? You'll need one of those if you don't. Also, flash a 285MB partition and change your cache size to 5MB, no ROMs use 45 as far as I know. Right now you're wasting 55MB of your internal storage because your partition sizes are too big.
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i dont have a ext partition on my sd card. i did all that you said except ext partition but the rom wont load on top of that i dont know how to go back to complete stock as in windows by deleting magldr and everything else. plus how to update recovery from magldr ? some things im not able to understand even through guides its difficult.
No point going back to stock now. It really shouldn't be too tough provided that you read. I'd recommend using the toolkit:
1. Boot into MAGLDR
2. Choose 5. USB Flasher (or whatever number it is)
3. Run the Toolkit on your PC (you'll need admin rights)
4. Click MAGLDR Repartition and change the sizes to 285 and 5 cache
5. Connect your phone and flash
6. In CWM, go to advanced then partition SD card. Select a size you deem appropriate (I'd say 500MB or 1GB, ensure it's less than half the size of your SD)
7. Copy the .zip ROM to your SD card, preferably with a card reader
8. Flash in CWM
9. Reboot and see if it works