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Some one tell me what I am getting and point to the links for it

Ok guys, I have decided I want the Galaxy S 4 and ordered it but its on back order from AT&T but I want to know all there is about it before I get it. Coming from a HTC One X and very new to Samsung I need direction to the links of what to do with it. I know its new and little info about it, but I need to learn the GS4 before its in hands. I have read about all I can find but its mostly a hit and miss with the reviews so far.
After I get used to it and see the installed software I want to unlock it, and flash away with the customs like the HTC I have but I don't know where to start.
I need to know what or where to look for the ATT version of the GS4, is it a I9505 or a I9500 or what? From the order at ATT all I get is Samsung 1337, so what is it?

If you want to flash roms I'd wait for now the bootloader on the at&t version is locked. I'd say wait and look up and learn about the device. Then if/when the bootloader is unlocked you will know what you are doing. The i9505 is the international snapdragon and LTE version of the phone. The i9500 is the international no LTE octa core version. The at&t one is snapdragon and has LTE bands for AT&T.
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ste1164 said:
If you want to flash roms I'd wait for now the bootloader on the at&t version is locked. I'd say wait and look up and learn about the device. Then if/when the bootloader is unlocked you will know what you are doing. The i9505 is the international snapdragon and LTE version of the phone. The i9500 is the international no LTE octa core version. The at&t one is snapdragon and has LTE bands for AT&T.
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this is exactly right. I am waiting myself for the fine people of XDA to unlock the bootloader
OP, the AT&T model is not 1337 it is SGH-i337. All you can do when you get it is freeze all AT&T software except Contacts - do not freeze Contacts as that will disable your dialer/phone.

kreoXDA said:
this is exactly right. I am waiting myself for the fine people of XDA to unlock the bootloader
OP, the AT&T model is not 1337 it is SGH-i337. All you can do when you get it is freeze all AT&T software except Contacts - do not freeze Contacts as that will disable your dialer/phone.
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Ok, I was just going off the order on the ATT site, all it gave for information was Samsung Galaxy 1337, I didn't know which is which for the model or ?. Is there a specific forum for the the ATT ? When I search my model I keep coming back to this forum. Are they all combined or separate like the HTC forums? I agre with the posts and all I have found so far is rooting the phone and no actual custom roms. I have been messing with the HTC One X and got it down pat , like you say, I need to learn all there is to know but don't know where to look.

leesumm said:
Ok, I was just going off the order on the ATT site, all it gave for information was Samsung Galaxy 1337, I didn't know which is which for the model or ?. Is there a specific forum for the the ATT ? When I search my model I keep coming back to this forum. Are they all combined or separate like the HTC forums? I agre with the posts and all I have found so far is rooting the phone and no actual custom roms. I have been messing with the HTC One X and got it down pat , like you say, I need to learn all there is to know but don't know where to look.
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There is an AT&T forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257 here. There are no custom roms for this device because of the bootloader. You cant add a custom kernel/recovery/rom. You can root the device though. I'd look at the guides on this and the AT&T forum.

ste1164 said:
There is an AT&T forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257 here. There are no custom roms for this device because of the bootloader. You cant add a custom kernel/recovery/rom. You can root the device though. I'd look at the guides on this and the AT&T forum.
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Ok, been reading all I can find and went for it. Ordered the GS4 on Monday and to be delivered today Wednesday , going to be out of town for 3 days but it should be here when I get back if my wife don't open it up and steal it from me. I hope the devs come up with something for this phone and make it easy to root and I get to learn Samsung like the HTC One X my wife gets now .

leesumm said:
Ok, been reading all I can find and went for it. Ordered the GS4 on Monday and to be delivered today Wednesday , going to be out of town for 3 days but it should be here when I get back if my wife don't open it up and steal it from me. I hope the devs come up with something for this phone and make it easy to root and I get to learn Samsung like the HTC One X my wife gets now .
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Its already rooted, but you wont be running custom roms for a while. As your bootloader is locked. This stops you from installing any.

Att - Locked Bootloader?

I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?

99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.

antiochasylum said:
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.

It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.

Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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mircury said:
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......

So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...

farrenicus said:
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.

mircury said:
It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.

XDA doesn't want to give us our forum, fine, but which roms are we supposed to flash?

As a Canadian, we have our own variant, along with some south american countries as well, the 900W8. As in past iterations of Galaxy device, we are always grouped with ATT and had our forum there where we could safely flash any rom. But this time around, the W8 variant is no where to be found. There are a few thread floating around, along with people messaging admins, requests, polls, but no one has lifted a finger to place us somewhere.
Today i flashed Echoe rom from this section, it doesnt work. My wifi doesnt work, my LTE is screwed up...and this is just in the first 5 minutes after falshing
So as a W8 variant owner, where do i get my roms from???
Perhaps somebody in XDA could finally place us somewhere, i mean over 150 users want this so why ignore us?

As a fellow Canadian This worries me. I hope this isn't the case for the rest of the SM-N900W8 variant owners
Thanks!

I didnt have a problem being lumped into the att forums before but considering there is ZERO development there due to the locked bootloader not much point.
Our bootloader is unlocked but there would appear to be a shortage of Canadian developers.
Im pretty sure we can flash tmo roms..a few guys with the w8 are running wicked and jedi...but yeah our own forum would ne nice.
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force70 said:
I didnt have a problem being lumped into the att forums before but considering there is ZERO development there due to the locked bootloader not much point.
Our bootloader is unlocked but there would appear to be a shortage of Canadian developers.
Im pretty sure we can flash tmo roms..a few guys with the w8 are running wicked and jedi...but yeah our own forum would ne nice.
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good point, even with the S4 i think we should have been matched up with tmo

True but i flashed alot if att roms on my s4...my flashcounter is at 30 lol.
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force70 said:
True but i flashed alot if att roms on my s4...my flashcounter is at 30 lol.
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and i bet you you only flashed tmo kernels....

Devices are always grouped together by hardware, therefor it should be fairly easy to get the software working on all the related variants. The issues with wifi you're describing sound like the kernel does not match the modules installed in userspace under /system/lib/modules.

xHausx said:
Devices are always grouped together by hardware, therefor it should be fairly easy to get the software working on all the related variants. The issues with wifi you're describing sound like the kernel does not match the modules installed in userspace under /system/lib/modules.
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in this case, why is the s800 lte european variant not in the same section as most north american variants? Same hardware...same thing for tmo variant

Ultimately device forums are up to the Admins to decide on. If you wish to get your own forum, and there is enough interest in it, then the way to go about doing that is to post your request in the New Device Forum Requests thread.
In the mean time, there is plenty of information available here to help you learn how to troubleshoot ROM issues for your device. As mentioned by the stickies however, please post any further questions you have in the appropriate Q&A section.

Ouch! Did I Totally Buy the WRONG Note?

Bought a N-910S. That's what's floating around these parts, was a good deal, didn't think much of it.
But after the usual trip to XDA to find a good debloated, fancified Touchwiz based latest and greatest, I come to see ....
Not much of anything.
It's all 910C, 910H, whatever, but no 910S. Yikes. Yikes?!
What gives? Googled, searched, read, can't figure it out. No love for the 910S? Do I need to open my living room window super wide and throw this thing as far as I can? What will happen to the 5.1 update, and me-never-ever-getting-it?
Omg. Stop me from going crazy right now. Shed some light on this totally human life existential drama question.

wayandrs said:
Bought a N-910S. That's what's floating around these parts, was a good deal, didn't think much of it.
But after the usual trip to XDA to find a good debloated, fancified Touchwiz based latest and greatest, I come to see ....
Not much of anything.
It's all 910C, 910H, whatever, but no 910S. Yikes. Yikes?!
What gives? Googled, searched, read, can't figure it out. No love for the 910S? Do I need to open my living room window super wide and throw this thing as far as I can? What will happen to the 5.1 update, and me-never-ever-getting-it?
Omg. Stop me from going crazy right now. Shed some light on this totally human life existential drama question.
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Surely you jest. I would rather have the S version than the H version. At least you get LTE unlike me with my H version.

Well ... no LTE-A on any of the prepaid carriers here.
What about ROMs? Does nobody know? I quietly wonder if ROMs from any other 910x might work but not finding answers via search.

wayandrs said:
Well ... no LTE-A on any of the prepaid carriers here.
What about ROMs? Does nobody know? I quietly wonder if ROMs from any other 910x might work but not finding answers via search.
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The N910S is the equivanlent of the N910F in South Korea. There's not much info about it in internet, they seem to be the same device hardware-wise. They both use the same SoC and Modem so maybe N910F roms are cross-compatible with your device (They MAY be compatible or may not, If you want to use a N910F rom, do It at your own risk. Remember that a different rom in a non-compatible device would result in a hardbrick so be carefull). Download a N910F custom rom, delete the "modem" folder and flash it to your device via CWM, it may work.

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The N910S is the equivanlent of the N910F in South Korea. There's not much info about it in internet, they seem to be the same device hardware-wise. They both use the same SoC and Modem so maybe N910F roms are cross-compatible with your device (They MAY be compatible or may not, If you want to use a N910F rom, do It at your own risk. Remember that a different rom in a non-compatible device would result in a hardbrick so be carefull). Download a N910F custom rom, delete the "modem" folder and flash it to your device via CWM, it may work.
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Good one appreciate the insight. Though... worried about hard brick.
They have to be selling millions of these 910s. This one came straight from Korea, s/l must be a big market. Odd that there'd be no demand and supply of ROM goodness, yea?

T-Mobile firmware to an Official Samsung

Hey Guys.
So I'm about to get a new S7 Edge from T-mobile tonight.
I understand there are several roms out there for different versions of the device, am I right?
Is there anyway I could get rid of the official T-mobile rom and install instead the official/international Samsung one, something without all the garbage of the carrier and that will be future update directly by Samsung?
Will appreciate any lead
Thanks Guys!

No root. No firmware. No fun for anyone. This is the new korean samsung. All that's missing is a high Hitler, and your set

I'm coming from the Nexus world, so I'm sorry in case I'm mixing between the definitions here.
I case I'm not looking to root, just load another system img on the device, instead of the crappy t-mobile one.
No way to do it right now?
Thanks again man.

sonkameja said:
No root. No firmware. No fun for anyone. This is the new korean samsung. All that's missing is a high Hitler, and your set
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That's one of the dumbest analogies I've ever seen.
itamarbh said:
I'm coming from the Nexus world, so I'm sorry in case I'm mixing between the definitions here.
I case I'm not looking to root, just load another system img on the device, instead of the crappy t-mobile one.
No way to do it right now?
Thanks again man.
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No. Even with root, Samsung was never one to allow other firmwares on different models. If they existed, they were outliers and not the norm.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/best-to-root-how-to-screw-stock-s-t3394517
This is a very good guide to getting a more unbranded feel.
I would add that you can change your screen dpi through ADB (though the stock camera won't be full screen afterwards).
The US S7s are a special breed of S7s relative to the rest of the world, using Qualcomm rather than in-house chips and not having a bootloader unlock solution.
It might be possible to do more debranding (in the sprint S7E forum, they found a debrand function that may or may not work on t-mobile S7s to take off carrier customizations) but, assuming you are using t-mobile, you're better off using the package disabler than risk losing volte/video calls/wifi calling (the only reason to bother with a t-mobile S7 over international).

itamarbh said:
I'm coming from the Nexus world, so I'm sorry in case I'm mixing between the definitions here.
I case I'm not looking to root, just load another system img on the device, instead of the crappy t-mobile one.
No way to do it right now?
Thanks again man.
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No root. No firmware. No fun for anyone. This is the new korean samsung. All that's missing is a high Hitler, and your set
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Why is Hitler getting high?
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itamarbh said:
Hey Guys.
So I'm about to get a new S7 Edge from T-mobile tonight.
I understand there are several roms out there for different versions of the device, am I right?
Is there anyway I could get rid of the official T-mobile rom and install instead the official/international Samsung one, something without all the garbage of the carrier and that will be future update directly by Samsung?
Will appreciate any lead
Thanks Guys!
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They are ODIN'ing different versions of the 935F firmware internationally to get Samsung Pay and other apps, but they have a different processor - so you would brick your device if you tried. You might be able to use US AT&T formware, but cannot see any reason to try.
There are also custom ROMs out for the 935F - but you have to be rooted to flash them, which is not possible hereon the 935T yet and my never be the way things are (not) going.

Got you all, thank you guys for the response!
For now, I disabled all Samsung and Tmo useless apps, and installed Google Now Launcher instead of Touch Wize.
Hopefully these steps will do the job for now.
Thanks again!

Nowadays phones don't need root they work very well out of the box. I understand the need for it (custom roms, etc...) but I haven't rooted a personal phone of mine in a while. Just disable what you don't wanna use and enjoy the phone.
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I have a 935FD running on TMo and I sorely miss WiFi calling and VoLTE options
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