ok so heres the problem. a few days ago i drop my nexus 4 and it cracked the back glass.
what ive have notice is the phone getting super hot now. even when i have my uv setting its runs blazing hot. at first i though it was just the heat from the weather. but the other night i left it plug in and went to sleep. (i turned off data) the next day i woke up and went to get my phone from the stand and it was to hot to hold and i notice the phone being off and charging but the charging icon was blueish purple. i unplugged the phone right away and left it alone. it took it over 30min to cool down. it was so hot you could not hold it for more than 30 secs.
I am wondering if me droping it might have caused a short on the board? I have put it in airplane mode and charged it the day of to see if it would help and it sort of did help.
today i drop it again on the floor and the network cut right now and i had to use air plane mode on and off to get it to find network again.
any advice would be great. I am not worried about the back glass being cracked i can replace it. but want to know if it should be sent in for warranty?
Alicklee said:
ok so heres the problem. a few days ago i drop my nexus 4 and it cracked the back glass.
what ive have notice is the phone getting super hot now. even when i have my uv setting its runs blazing hot. at first i though it was just the heat from the weather. but the other night i left it plug in and went to sleep. (i turned off data) the next day i woke up and went to get my phone from the stand and it was to hot to hold and i notice the phone being off and charging but the charging icon was blueish purple. i unplugged the phone right away and left it alone. it took it over 30min to cool down. it was so hot you could not hold it for more than 30 secs.
I am wondering if me droping it might have caused a short on the board? I have put it in airplane mode and charged it the day of to see if it would help and it sort of did help.
today i drop it again on the floor and the network cut right now and i had to use air plane mode on and off to get it to find network again.
any advice would be great. I am not worried about the back glass being cracked i can replace it. but want to know if it should be sent in for warranty?
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It seems like in first case the battery broke down. You can try to open it and see if the battery became bigger, or to service as the second fall has damaged it more.
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It seems like in first case the battery broke down. You can try to open it and see if the battery became bigger, or to service as the second fall has damaged it more.
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Yep, it looks like battery fail... He must go to the service centre ASAP
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hey sorry forgot to mention I did open it up to check and battery is fine the heat is not coming for the battery its coming for the area of the logic board
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It seems like in first case the battery broke down. You can try to open it and see if the battery became bigger, or to service as the second fall has damaged it more.
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hey sorry forgot to mention I did open it up to check and battery is fine the heat is not coming for the battery its coming for the area of the logic board
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Hmmm...it may be battery controller for example.
If it was only battery, its simple to recover byself but as it was one more drop and the promlem for charge is deeper -> better way to go to service.
whats your cpu temp? battery temp? whats youre definition of "overheating like mad"?
while plug in charging without doing anything just wifi and cell on it runs at 40-45c its use to top out at 36c
the other day when it did that thing where it was super hot the phone was off but the last temp the app recorded was 60c. but it was way hotter then that just the phone shut off i guessing it reach max temp shutdown or something but even after it shutdown and the phone was charging it was too hot to hold. you could say cook an egg on it hot!
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whats your cpu temp? battery temp? whats youre definition of "overheating like mad"?
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should i replace the back glass first before sending it in so they wont say i broke it. i have a damage nexus 4 that i bought for parts i can put on it.
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Hmmm...it may be battery controller for example.
If it was only battery, its simple to recover byself but as it was one more drop and the promlem for charge is deeper -> better way to go to service.
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well, 40-45C while charging is very normal. but to reach 60C while charging.. what was your phone laying on? a couch cushion? something else that can be an insulator?
on my stand like i normally have it. like i said when im charging it it never really use to go over 36c. i just notice when in use or charge even after uv and uc the phone it gets hot. before i had drop it it would never get that hot
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well, 40-45C while charging is very normal. but to reach 60C while charging.. what was your phone laying on? a couch cushion? something else that can be an insulator?
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Yep left it on fully charged with cell only on and woke up this afternoon with phone totally drained
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Alicklee said:
on my stand like i normally have it. like i said when im charging it it never really use to go over 36c. i just notice when in use or charge even after uv and uc the phone it gets hot. before i had drop it it would never get that hot
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has the weather gotten any warmer around you?
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Alicklee said:
Yep left it on fully charged with cell only on and woke up this afternoon with phone totally drained
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youve got misbehaving apps, and maybe a terrible phone signal too.
Weather is about the same as last week and the week before.
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has the weather gotten any warmer around you?
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No new apps all the same apps I had since day one of nexus 4 and signal is the same as always
youve got misbehaving apps, and maybe a terrible phone signal too.
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Id stop dropping the phone is my advice to you
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well its was not like i wanted to drop it. plus i do have the bumper case on it.
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Id stop dropping the phone is my advice to you
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1. Stop dropping it
2. Yep it needs repair services. Send it in...
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1.You guys are making sound like I drop it all the time or something . it was an accident and I only ever drop it 3 times since I've had the phone from November.
2. I will send it in next week
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First some backgound.
In preparation for a big event where I will be using my phone for web surfing a lot, I pick up the huge brick2600mah battery. It works well and last all day. I forgot my charger and had to charge the phone over USB and that only seems to charge the battery to 75%. But that is a different issue.
So when I get home, I put back in the stock battery so the phone will no longer be a brick in my picket any more. (The 2600mah battery will be used for events where I need the power)
But the stock battery is not lasting very long at all any more. The capacity seems to be down 50%. I left it in my truck once and came back to find it almost dead. It went from fully charged with the car charger to dead in 2 hours.
A week or so later, in the same spot, I knew I was going to be out of ear shot, so I left my fully charged phone, in airplane mode to save the battery. 4 hours later and it's dead like a door nail.
I have since done the same and the battery is low after 6 hours, but not dead. Something strange is going on. I have ran the phone till dead 3 times and fully charged it and that seemed to help, but it's still not happy. It also takes 8+ hours to charge.
A few hours ago, I managed to hard lock the phone, so I pop out the battery. The battery swollen. Not Sony like, but like something inside is really pressing hard against the case and wants to get out. Note I am talking about the stock HTC battery, not the brick.
My stock battery problems may be unrelated to the use of the 2600 brick battery, but I figure it's worth bringing up.
Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
If the stock as really swollen, you'd better contact Tmo and get a replacement. I think it might got over heated when you left it in the truck. Did you put it on the dashboard? Was that a hot sunny day? Any temperature above 60 degrees Celsius can cause permanent damage to lithium-ion batteries. Crystals growing on one of the electrodes (can't remember which) can penetrate the insulation and touch the other side, causing a internal short. This will heat the liquids inside the battery and when the pressure rise beyond control...
You need a new battery, batteries can swell like that either from heat or too high current drained. Might be a defect in the battery from the start as well tho (short-circuit waiting to happen or something, who knows?)
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Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
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Any lithium battery that experiences swelling should immediately be viewed as a potential hazard. At this point you cannot drop it off in a battery recycling drop-off point (and perish the thought of just tossing it in the trash). I recommend you take it to a T-Mo store and demand an exchange for a new battery. You'll also be relieved of the responsibility to deal with disposing of it properly.
Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
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Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
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As said 100% correctly by jashsu, your battery is basically hazardous. Keep it away from anything you want to stay alive (you, your property, your G1...) until you can get it to T-Mobile.
XDA does not condone this, but your best bet to get a new battery is to lie. If you tell them you left it in the sun, they're most likely not going to replace it. Play dumb and tell them nothing odd happened and you have no idea why it did it.
If you bought it from em and are still in contract with them, I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't replace it on the spot (even if you don't have warranty). Until then, do NOT use the battery, and be thankful that it didn't destroy your G1.
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Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
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water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
Freedomcaller said:
water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
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lmao, i agree
http://www.mydogiscool.com/x_car_study.php
lol
Guess I got my numbers mixed up... according to a few websites, they can get up near 200 degrees.
http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.safety.all.html
I have been still using the phone. Bloated battery and on. It has not tried to kill me as of yet.
Today I went down to the t-mobile store and told the guy at the counter that my phone was only holding a charge for 5 hours at most. He suggested a battery swap and if that does not fix it, a phone swap. I handed him my puffed out battery, and he handed me a new, slimmer one. He never asked for my phone, my number, or nothing else. Once again I am reminded why I go with the only carrier that does not offer 3G service in my area. T-Mobile service rocks.
ok so im worried I may have caused some damage to my hero last night. I was on the phone for....3 hours or so last night...left it plugged in. i fell asleep while i was on the phone and when i woke up it was still plugged in and the call was still going...the LED was blinking red and green and it was real hot. I guess the LED was saying it was overheated. What damage would the overheating have done. I want to knwo weather I should send my phone in. I really dont want to until 2.1 has root but I will if i have to. Thanks!
The phone has a temperature safe gaurd in it. If it really does get to hot, it would shut it self down on it own. You probably haven't caused any damage to it at all. Mine gets hot and shuts down on its own on a regular basis with WiFi Tether.
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Hope that you have free nights!
Don't we all have the same everything data with any mobile anytime :3 yeah Minutes are no problem. Thanks! Ill post again if i notice anything weird.
ukn0wnscaa said:
Don't we all have the same everything data with any mobile anytime :3 yeah Minutes are no problem. Thanks! Ill post again if i notice anything weird.
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The unlimited minutes are only to cell phones, not land lines.....besides if you have the 1500 minutes plan, thats 25 hours......
If he fell asleep, I'm sure they will give him a break....
I'd call Sprint right now and explain what happened just in case.
derekwilkinson said:
If he fell asleep, I'm sure they will give him a break....
I'd call Sprint right now and explain what happened just in case.
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Wouldnt matter if it was on nights and weekends or the free mobile to mobile.
I wouldn't worry, as stated before phones have safeguards against these kinds of things and would turn themselves off if they got too hot.
I had my phone charging in my bed and it wound up under my pillow and was super hot when I woke up. The LED was blinking like you described -- and it's been fine.
I'm wondering if anybody else's aria gets extremely hot like 45-50 degrees celcius when its NOT charging. It's not the battery that feels hot its the bottom of the back of the phone, with the case off its almost too hot to touch and the front of the phone where the buttons are. One thing I can't stand are phones that get too hot too touch when I'm using it. If it is just a defect in my phone i have a week and a half to take this phone back to the store and exchange for another one, just don't want to if i don't need to cuz Id have to unroot this one and root a new one. I know phones can overheat when they're charging but yeah it gets hot when its off the charger in the middle of the day.
Also my warranty sticker ripped the d off the word void because the battery was so hot it stuck to it.
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mine has never been that hot if that helps, even after the first few nights that i spent rooting and messing with the phone
Mine gets warm if it's under heavy use, but I would never characterize it as 'hot'. Certainly not burn-my-hand hot.
If yours is too hot to touch, then I would say it sounds like a defect. Pain in the ass to have to re-root, but it's better than burning a whole in your jeans.
yea sounds like its defective... would def get a new one. Mine gets warm under heavy usage, but never hot.
i use my htc fuse all the time while at work. i use it to tether my laptop to it. when i download a large movie file which will take about 30-40 min the phone will heat up fast. and when i download back to back it stops charging the phone use the battery power. i think that the phone has some temp gauge or something to block the charge. don't care much for the phone if it goes bad. i have back up phones.
so to answer ur question. it will get hot if your using ur phone alot. and when it does it stops charging.
yeah i think i might just stick it out because i really do not want to have to re root it. i use it alot, but i hate how hot its been getting recently, i have until saturday the 18th so ill wait until friday and see how it is, it was fine today but if its still overheating then yeah ill take it back. I still have a warranty with HTC with the phone so if something happens after saturday ill send it back to them.
and yes, the HTC Aria has the overheating when charging mechanism to stop the charging process. which is nice. it lowers the voltage on the battery, stops the charging, and wont continue charging it until the temperature returns to normal. which most phones will just continue charging it even if its too hot. which sucks for people with those phones lol.
thanks for the input guys. if someone notices there phone getting "warm" if you can check the temp of the battery on your phone id reallly appreciate it. you can check it with spare parts or the battery widget(download from htc widgets) it will tell you the battery temperature. just so i can get an idea of what people consider warm.
My Aria actually got so hot while in use and charging that it turned itself off.
I was using Pandora, and Google Nav at the same time while charging that it twice that day, simply shut itself off. The whole phone was hot to the touch, so i now use a vent clip on holfer for it so its in front of the AC at all times while driving.
Glad to know I am not the only one.
I've noticed it also depends on the temperature of the enviornment your in.
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Heat issues....
I usually have long conversations and this phone get really hot - even when not using speaker phone option. Last HTC I had (WinMo) got hot too. Anyone know if the Captiva get hot?
nope the captivate doesnt get hot. I mean if browsing the web/playing games on full brightness for an hour+ my captivate at most will get warm. but other then that it doesnt get hot at all.
Mine gets slightly warm after a good workout but if mine was too hot to touch it would have gone back for sure...no questions asked.
I have notices that mine does get warm depending on what I'm doing. I have also noticed that running either Pandora or Google navigation does seem to make the phone warm up. Maybe its the combination of the two apps running that is doing it.
By the way does anyone know if the cpu is located in the lower half of our phones where it is getting warm/hot at? And could it be that there just isn't enough heat dissipation is why we can feel it.
My only other question is are you using a case that covers the whole back of the phone? Are the results the same without the case?
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Anyone else having an issue who might live in Texas? I notice severe delay in the OS. Also had a small 1 foot drop out of my hand while I was sitting down and it went CooCoo, had to reset, and reinsert SD card. Ambient Temp today was 97 55% humidity. I noticed my phone was actually hot in the heat, which worried me.
Humidity ? What was it temp wise? I have mine up yo 115 while charging ... it's a different processor it heats a little.. I returned one due to it but the new one is just as hot. Don't feel hott just says it is. No biggie. To me...
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Anyone else having an issue who might live in Texas? I notice severe delay in the OS. Also had a small 1 foot drop out of my hand while I was sitting down and it went CooCoo, had to reset, and reinsert SD card. Ambient Temp today was 97 55% humidity. I noticed my phone was actually hot in the heat, which worried me.
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Been over a hundred here and 60-80% humidity, phone feels fine.
My phone has gotten got to the touch when pushed really hard and charging. I think its the battery... But this has been reported on other forums as happening often. If Tmobile says its the battery they swap it out for free. And if you aren't rooted they will swap the phone.
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Its cool...
My phone gets really hot when charging
but also gets hot when doing a lot on it. Hot enough that you can cook an egg on it and I was uncomfortable putting it to my ear for a phone call.
My heat feels like its coming for the processor and not the battery.
I live in Florida and its always hot as hell an humid the phone hasn't had any weird issues. It does get hot while charging an during use at times.
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I live in Texas and the temperature outside has been mostly in the 90's and low 100's during the day and in the 80's at night. I haven't noticed my phone getting unusually hot though. I does get a little warm while charging or during heavy use but no more so than my G1 did. In fact, it usually seems relatively cooler than my old G1 felt.
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I live in Florida and its always hot as hell an humid the phone hasn't had any weird issues. It does get hot while charging an during use at times.
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In tampa... handset does get warm to the touch, when pushing it through paces (GPS, 3g, heavy data use...), but not alarmingly so.
My phone hit 134.6 degrees this morning and its a brand new vibrant out the box just installed battery indicator to monitor.
I've had mine get really hot as well, up around where i'm guessing the processor is, not the battery. When this happens, my battery really drains. I've looked to see what tasks are running and could see nothing. Powering off and on didn't fix it. Taking out the battery did. It's happened just a couple times in the last couple of months.
Yesterday morning I woke up to my vibrant battery, charged maybe 25% with an exclamation mark that looked like a road sign and a thermometer icon over the battery. The phone was very hot. I let the battery drained then charged it the night before. Is that normal was the battery over heating? should I exchange it for a new one? I got the phone on saturday and that was the first time i charged it.
Btw is anyones vibrant making creaking noises on the edges where it's painted metallic?
I personally have never heard of an overheating indicator on this device so this night be news to many. The issue of heat being generated from this device while charging has been brought up. For me it happens rarely now but when it does I pull the charger, let it cool down and then plug it back in.
Try charging it again and letting it drain again completely and see if you can get it to occur again. If so a battery replacement may be the only thing you need.
Sidenote: No my Vibrant doesn't make and creaking noises. I am just plagued with a loose volume rocker lol
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I've had the thermometer road sign come up before. I left my phone on the charger in the car. Realized I did it and went to get it and it was HOT! I put it by an AC vent and let it cool before using and haven't had any issue.
Are you using the charger that came with the phone?
Over heating when I first got the phone it would run super hot and even hotter when charging but never got that overheating symbol. However over a few days my phone barley gets hot anymore.
Creaking yes I am experiencing it as well as a loose volume button. It is annoying but it does not bother me that much.
Isn't that the under 30 % symbol . .
Last week my phone became super hot. I feel asleep while I was listening to music and while it was on the charger. When I woke up the phone was muy caliente, literally. It wouldn't turn on so I took out the battery to let it cool down but my battery was hot as well. I let it cool for a bit and put the battery in again and it still didn't work. So I plug it back into the charger and the battery charging icon booted up. I went into the OS and it said the battery was at 0%. Now it's working fine and never happened again. Weird though.
I called tmo and they said to go ahead and go get a new one from a retail location, since its still within the 14 buyers remorse period, so I did. But looking by the comments I think I didn't need to, but now I have no more creaking on the edges . Thanks guys for all your help and comments.
Ya. mine gave that symbol while charging the other day. I unplugged it and put it far away in case it was some defective battery or something. Nothing exploded and haven't see it since. Was mildly disturbing though.
wow, my phone doesn't over heat thankfully.
Glad you returned the phone.
Let us know if the new one does the same thing.
thank You.
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Ya. mine gave that symbol while charging the other day. I unplugged it and put it far away in case it was some defective battery or something. Nothing exploded and haven't see it since. Was mildly disturbing though.
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Haha the thought of it might exploding was in the back of my mind also.
I had that problem too once. My phone got too hot one morning and got that symbol. I had an app that told me what the temp of the battery and it was at 144 f. I went too look at what was causing it, it said display at 90%. I had too remove the battery, let it cool down and than charge it. Every time I make sure that brightness is at 0% and that no other app is running in the background. Because when I wake up that morning, my phone was on before I even touched it. I wad thinking an app was not letting it sleep and it was on the whole night.
Yes, I did have screen turn off at 1 minute.
144F = 60C.... You could BURN yourself touching that lmao! That's high even for my computer processor...at least its on the high side I mean.
No wonder an icon popped up. Most I've gotten it to is 54C and that was with GPS navigation, music, screen on, and the phone being in direct sunlight sitting in the car while navigating me. And touching THAT it started being really uncomfortable/burning-like. Can't imagine what 60 would be like lol.
Glad it actually WORKS at such a temperature though. And that it TELLS you "Cool me down please" lol.
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144F = 60C.... You could BURN yourself touching that lmao! That's high even for my computer processor...at least its on the high side I mean.
No wonder an icon popped up. Most I've gotten it to is 54C and that was with GPS navigation, music, screen on, and the phone being in direct sunlight sitting in the car while navigating me. And touching THAT it started being really uncomfortable/burning-like. Can't imagine what 60 would be like lol.
Glad it actually WORKS at such a temperature though. And that it TELLS you "Cool me down please" lol.
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My Overclocked core i7 at 4 ghz does not even hit 60C (idle) on 100% load yes it does.
60C for a phone is unbelievably hot.
Your core i7 is one HECK of a chip then. My friend's corei7 that I helped overclock with a gigantic copper air cooler for $80 hits 70C at 4.00Ghz under load. I told him if it ever hits 73C to clock it down since that's the limit.
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wow, my phone doesn't over heat thankfully.
Glad you returned the phone.
Let us know if the new one does the same thing.
thank You.
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I'm happy to say that I charged it before I went to bed. When I woke up, the phone was at 100% and cool to the touch.
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Your core i7 is one HECK of a chip then. My friend's corei7 that I helped overclock with a gigantic copper air cooler for $80 hits 70C at 4.00Ghz under load. I told him if it ever hits 73C to clock it down since that's the limit.
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Mines under water