TW Camera on 4.3 GE ? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I was using the work in progress TW Camera ports on the GE 4.2 Roms. I was interested to find out the framework for TW was still used in the GE Roms, which I have no problem with considering the only thing i hated about Touchwiz was Touchwiz. I like the camera ok.
I prefer the UI of the AOSP camera, but the performance of the TW Camera's post processing is alot better at night. I have compared and I see the posts about new app's performance which is true in daytime, but at night you can tell there is no post processing done. So my night shots come out all noisy. I love taking pictures at bars, parties, outdoors, camping, etc.
I read that the 4.3 ports do not include TW Framework, and when I load the camera it causes a bootloop.
Does anyone know if any ports actually work on 4.3? Is the framework part true?

northtxpower said:
I was using the work in progress TW Camera ports on the GE 4.2 Roms. I was interested to find out the framework for TW was still used in the GE Roms, which I have no problem with considering the only thing i hated about Touchwiz was Touchwiz. I like the camera ok.
I prefer the UI of the AOSP camera, but the performance of the TW Camera's post processing is alot better at night. I have compared and I see the posts about new app's performance which is true in daytime, but at night you can tell there is no post processing done. So my night shots come out all noisy. I love taking pictures at bars, parties, outdoors, camping, etc.
I read that the 4.3 ports do not include TW Framework, and when I load the camera it causes a bootloop.
Does anyone know if any ports actually work on 4.3? Is the framework part true?
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The lack of the Samsung (TW) Camera is one of my many gripes about G.E., so I'd been following this thread about the camera port for a while. It seems that there's not much TW framework included in 4.2.2 G.E. - at least not as much as one would think. My guess is that if the ports are successful to the 4.2.2 G.E., then 4.3 will likely fairly easy. It's a matter of just finding out what all the ridiculous dependencies are, and then somehow including them.
(but seriously, what parts of TW are included with the 4.2.2 G.E.? Seems like there's nearly nothing!!)

Aou said:
The lack of the Samsung (TW) Camera is one of my many gripes about G.E., so I'd been following this thread about the camera port for a while. It seems that there's not much TW framework included in 4.2.2 G.E. - at least not as much as one would think. My guess is that if the ports are successful to the 4.2.2 G.E., then 4.3 will likely fairly easy. It's a matter of just finding out what all the ridiculous dependencies are, and then somehow including them.
(but seriously, what parts of TW are included with the 4.2.2 G.E.? Seems like there's nearly nothing!!)
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No, it wont be fairly easy with 4.3 as 4.3 has NO left over tw framework files. From what ive been reading they only left the frameworks mainly for the ir blaster but with native ir support coming to 4.3 we likely wont see touchwiz at all in the official 4.3 release...only time will tell.
All thats included in the 4.2.2 is the twframework-res.apk which is nothing youll see, it just simply contains many dependencies.
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mg2195 said:
No, it wont be fairly easy with 4.3 as 4.3 has NO left over tw framework files. From what ive been reading they only left the frameworks mainly for the ir blaster but with native ir support coming to 4.3 we likely wont see touchwiz at all in the official 4.3 release...only time will tell.
All thats included in the 4.2.2 is the twframework-res.apk which is nothing youll see, it just simply contains many dependencies.
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Thanks for the details. It seems that if/when the camera is ported, it will have to be a full and complete port with all dependencies, etc. That'll be pretty extreme, so let's hope we have a few people here on XDA with too much spare time. >_<

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AOSP ROM's

It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
Totally agree mate!
Aosp ones are the best...
the only thing i wait is the official jb update so the aosp ones can get sources to built on and also to have the best sammy ones(comparable to aosp since it's jb) ever!
But until then,aosp all the way...
Aokp Liquid and Resurrection for new I use Samy base JB Dragon
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jonny68 said:
It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
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I used to have a Captivate and ran only AOSP/CM/AOKP roms. I still have it (use it as an mp3 player) and it's awesome.
No on my i9300, I'm using Omega v11. I tried SuperNexus Build 1 and tried a couple of AOSP based rom. I haven't tried later JB roms because I'm concerned with the memory leaks and lack of tv out and stuff like that. The main difference I found is the camera. The Samsung Camera app is very, very good. It is, flat out, superior to the ICS/JB Camera app. Allshare, FM Radio, TV Out, seem usually to be unsupported on AOSP roms (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I think AOSP (and variants) roms are very good. UI is sleaker and they might be a bit more responsive, but I could appreciate a greater difference when I had a Galaxy S with a half baked Touchwiz on it that with the complete monster the i9300 is with a thought out, 3rd or 4th generation Touchwiz. I still use Nova Launcher, because it looks better to me, but I love Smart Stay, TV out is absurdly useful to play n64 games or so with an emulator and a ps3 controller and again, the camera.
I might go back to AOSP roms. I've been looking for a good theme for stock roms, but haven't found one that actually replicates the feeling. However, functionality wise, I think Samsung's Roms are superior.
Excellent thread....Aosp are very responsive and pretty slick....you can feel the new all the advantages of JB.....but as said by monoespacial, the tricks in TW such as smart stay and others are very useful...it'll will be great if one of our outstanding developers in this forum can bake a Rom based on Aosp JB including all the mentionned tweaks.......excellent forum and wonderful community.....thanks.
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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yeah
they are simple and fast, and can install kernel with oveclock
but:
-no wifi tethering (its important to me)
-some FC
-inferior camera app
-without some features, like smart stay, etc ...
I agree!! Those AOSP or AOKP are excellent in terms of speed and smooth-ness. It also somehow integrate to the Google products better. However, they are often very simple interface with nothing much..
Too bad at this moment, there are still bugs that can't be fixed.
In the future, I will just go and get the original Google Nexus phone... You'll get the latest update first hand and there are less bloatware installed
- Charles
Haven't tried other AOSP rom except CM. Can't wait for memory leak fix on CM10
aosp is fast and slick , i love it but there is no denying the fact samsung has improved the quality of their roms for s3..... aosp vs stock is always been a debatable question where aosp always wins. but with galaxy s3 roms samsung has progressed one step higher.
at the end of the day not only the speed that matters but also the releaibility and functionality...
advatanges of aosp:
* Your mobile is fast and clean.
* More room for multitasking with more memory available.
* Wide variety of themes to choose from.
* aokp and derivative of aosp roms are simply amazing
disadvantages:
* it just makes your s3 like any other mobile that runs aosp. No device specific functions.
* Inferior camera.
* you will never get some features .
hoping to see a bug free cmx soon...................................
nodstuff said:
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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I agree! I started off my rom flashing on a milestone2 and when I got cm7 on it for the first time, I was in love with it. Then I got a g2x which was stock gb all the way too.
Finally I get this sg3 which was a must have and wow, I have used cm 9,10, every other aosp and aokp rom but stock again has more stuff u can't get from others.
I adw, Nova, launcher pro but I just tw all the way. Suits my needs.
I guess the best thing about it is, we could always change it when need be!
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I do like the AOSP / AOKP etc. roms due to their speed, clean base and an intuitive user interface, but some bad things keep me from going to them.
Annoying bugs:
More FC's
Bluetooth works bad with A2DP headphones - choppy sound, interruption etc.
Native USB Tither doesn't work
Overheating compared to stock roms
Some cool things missing from stock roms such as superior camera, video call, smart stay etc.
A lot of minor bugs
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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true, it would be nice to have new touchwiz features in cmx btw whatever the 3rd party app you use you cant get near to the stock camera app which has fetures like hdr,buddy share and more and adding to the arsenal jb update brings "pause while recording" feature to the camera app. BUt sadly its the price we have to pay for the luxury of aosp
Yeah, I was blown away at the speed of AOSP, the one major disadvantage(in my eyes) is the current memory leak present.
I'm sure that in due time, the AOSP camera will get all those features present on the Sammy camera.
I guess the thing I miss the most from the Sammy ROM was the swipe left to message and swipe right to call. Very useful feature IMO.
can someone confirm if USB tethering works on AOSP?

Discussion: TouchWiz 4.1.2 vs. Android 4.3

Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/​
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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jetbruceli said:
Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.

If we get an AOSP rom, will we still be able to use the LG Camera that's built in?

I compared shots taken with the stock LG camera vs the stock jelly bean camera, and the results are dramatic. The LG camera wins hands down, so I'm just curious if AOSP roms would work with the LG camera.
Also, are we going to see custom kernels for this device?
Don't worry, you'll still be able to use your camera. However the stock LG camera app will probably be replaced with focal or something similar.
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Don't worry, you'll still be able to use your camera. However the stock LG camera app will probably be replaced with focal or something similar.
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What he's asking is if we can still use lgs camera app... Because I agree aosp sucks...
Of the stock camera isn't reliant on the framework then yes.. Otherwise no
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whittikins said:
I compared shots taken with the stock LG camera vs the stock jelly bean camera, and the results are dramatic. The LG camera wins hands down, so I'm just curious if AOSP roms would work with the LG camera.
Also, are we going to see custom kernels for this device?
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I doubt we will see a camera with all the options of the LG G2 stock app, but there will be options. Focal is one. Generally manufacturers apps don't make it into AOSP or CM roms, I think because they require other framework or files that aren't included in in the custom roms.
Look at the size of a CM rom, and then at an original rom, and you'll probably see a difference of 500MB+ (i.e. lots of proprietary files not there in AOSP or CM)
As for Kernels, I would think there will be some on the way. There are already a couple, so I'm sure more work will be done to increase the offering.
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I doubt we will see a camera with all the options of the LG G2 stock app, but there will be options. Focal is one. Generally manufacturers apps don't make it into AOSP or CM roms, I think because they require other framework or files that aren't included in in the custom roms.
Look at the size of a CM rom, and then at an original rom, and you'll probably see a difference of 500MB+ (i.e. lots of proprietary files not there in AOSP or CM)
As for Kernels, I would think there will be some on the way. There are already a couple, so I'm sure more work will be done to increase the offering.
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That makes sense, but it kind of sucks to lose the improvements that LG made. The options are one thing, but the difference in image quality is huge comparing it to AOSP camera .
Don't give up your hopes too soon, as you may already know there's alot of third party camera ported to work with all device including those that uses AOSP roms in Android Apps section.. And they usually comes with their proprietary libs/so to make their functions work..
Although none of them are 100% perfect as they're not intended to be used on other device in the first place, LG cam should work better on LG devices.. Time will tell..
costum kernel will be available soon after the devs gets their hands dirty on the SD800 SoC..
i'm interested about porting the moto x always listening feature to the G2, as the latter has the chip to do so..

Best rom? Coming from iPhone

Okay, I've been running Goldeneye rom since I bought my S4.
I came from an iPhone 5.
I really like andriod but I just don't like the lag that it always has...
I don't know how to exactly explain it but here is a good example:
Opening the camera app on an iPhone there was little to no lag it would open up quick to where i can see what im taking a picture of and when i clicked the capture button it would take the pic no hesitant.
S4 is different... idk if its TW or the rom I am using but when I open the camera it takes at least 1-2 secs of delay. Then when taking the picture it has a slight delay again and usually never gets the best shot.
Also opening the Messaging app...
For example: when opening a text and going to click on reply to it the keyboard doesn't come up as fast as it does on the iphone. Im so use to opening and start typing and when I do that i usually miss the whole first word I was going to type.
I don't know if anyone understands what i'm talking about but yeah lol if anyone does understand what have you done to fix this?
TW based ROMs are going to be a bit more system heavy, and you may experience slower response times. If you're looking for speed and customization than I suggest you go with a AOSP/AOKP based ROM, or even a Google edition. I personally use task650 AOKP.
A quick tip for TW, go into your developer options. Phone - About phone - click build 7 times to activate it. Than set all your animation scales to 0 in your developer options. You'll notice 2x more speed on TW.
As for the best ROM.. There isn't. Its all user preference. There's a ton of great ones out.
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TW based ROMs are going to be a bit more system heavy, and you may experience slower response times. If you're looking for speed and customization than I suggest you go with a AOSP/AOKP based ROM, or even a Google edition. I personally use task650 AOKP.
A quick tip for TW, go into your developer options. Phone - About phone - click build 7 times to activate it. Than set all your animation scales to 0 in your developer options. You'll notice 2x more speed on TW.
As for the best ROM.. There isn't. Its all user preference. There's a ton of great ones out.
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How is the battery life on that?
Goldeneye gets me about a full day of usage.
Also, does it have apps2sd and pictures to sd?
It does. Tasks is a 4.3.1 ROM with apps2sd incorporated. Battery life on an aosp based ROM will generally be better than a TW at stock levels due to it being way less extensive. Though battery really depends on how you use your device.
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If you want to use APT-X Bluetooth codec for hi-def bluetooth, then stay away from AOSP ROM's because they don't have it. Otherwise, my favorite AOSP ROM was Slim Bean.
For an experience that is "stock" framework but looks AOSP and doesn't have a TouchWiz UI, then I'd install KangaBean (Google Edition 4.3) and use xPosed mods to tweak the heck out of it. You can even use the xPosed mod to run CyanogenMOD themes. This is what I'm on now and I'm loving it.
As far as camera goes, I think they all have a small lag when opening camera. Which is annoying to me.
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
honeyp0t said:
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...
It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
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Personally I would take a look at the Flight5 ROM. I came from an iPhone 4s, and I can honestly say this is the best from I've tried so far.
It is the default ROM, but with nearly all the bloat removed, very fast, great battery life (I average 13 hours on, with 4+ hours screen time, but that does depend on usage), and hardly any lag, if any, when opening the camera.
I've only tested one ASOP GPE ROM, but I found Flight5 to run just as fast and smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418522
Another thing that has not been mentioned yet, is there is a general consensus that the camera on TW based ROMs is better than those on ASOP based ROMs. I agree with that, from my testing. It's not a huge difference, but it is there.
After installing any ROM, I would recommend taking a look at Xposed modules, particularly WanamXposed. This will allow you to make customizations normally associated with custom ROMs, without having to flash them permanently.
honeyp0t said:
I've started to try and use AOKP by task650 but i cant get LTE on it...It's a pretty good rom and what i was looking for but no connection = me sad
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#1. There are so many roms here and it is worth trying many of them: AOKP can be a bit "bleeding edge" at times, so if you're not getting the results from task's rom for LTE, save time and effort and try another rom!
- Personally I have very good LTE and a very stable, no-lag experience on Shostock rom. It may not appear as flashy as some other roms, (but the bootup animation is ) However, the Shostock threads have been very helpful and there are many responsive/friendly posters (in general)-- it's a bit more relaxed there. Also, several of the add-on packages that iB4STiD provided for GoldenEye are actually built in to shoman94 's roms. So that saves steps.
--Sho has two i377 "Shostock" roms: one is based on the ATT stock rom and is now at android 4.2.2 (VERY stable & battery life nice: a perfect daily driver) here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752 .
-- Shoman's other i377 rom is based on the international version of the S4, (I9505). It runs perfectly on the i377 and is currently at android 4.3. [Android 4.3 is newer, with a couple of changes from 4.2, but I personally am less crazy about it than 4.2 -just my opinion] Anyway, here is the link to Shostock international rom for the i377 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
#2. Also, Br4nd3n's suggestion on turning off animation in developer settings is very good for any rom here. (In the TW rom menus there are three animation options.
=So go to: Settings/ More/ Developer options, and then look for the setting for "Windows animation", "Transition animation" and "Animator during scaling."Set ALL of these to OFF and the lag is generally gone.
I have had some apps that caused lag, so check that too!
#3. Also, FrozenDragoon's comment on the results for TW camera app being better is what I have seen as well. AOSP/KP and Google Edition roms are great in many ways, but their Camera app is not as good as the original Samsung one that TW roms have on them. If camera shots are important, then that's a consideration. If the camera is not as important as flexibility/customization, then GE or AO?P roms are the choice.
#4. CZ Eddie mentioned Xposed framework with (iB4StiD's other great rom) a Google Edition rom for the S4 called Kangabean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077 . This GE rom is fast and simple, but open to customization with Xposed framework and (I think) Gravity-Box.
- Using those two programs you can tweak the rom in limitless ways. (But it is not a TouchWiz rom, and won't have the Samsung special features). So, if you want customization that's a good direction (albeit with quite a few steps to get there
Good Luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
You know, the OP never mentioned what Baseband he's on. That will affect suggestions for ROMs.
Are you on MDL, or MF3 with SafeStrap?
FrozenDragoon said:
You know, the OP never mentioned what Baseband he's on. That will affect suggestions for ROMs. Are you on MDL, or MF3 with SafeStrap?
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Wow! That's right. If he has MF3 with Safestrap, he can't use any Android 4.3 rom (yet), he will have to use Android 4.2 roms.
Of course the new GoldenEye is 4.3, but the old one was 4.2. . so it still is not clear
There are NO roms better than the other...period. all this does is start a war....
Check the roms out yourself....thay ARE ALL GOOD in their own way.
here you go, 80+ roms to check and make the decision yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
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TheAxman said:
There are NO roms better than the other...period. all this does is start a war....
Check the roms out yourself....thay ARE ALL GOOD in their own way.
here you go, 80+ roms to check and make the decision yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
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What Samsung features are missing when you install CyanogenMod ROM?

What Samsung features are missing when you install CyanogenMod ROM? I noticed that all of the cool, stock lockscreen effects are missing. But what about things like:
Super fast boot time
multi-window
S Beam
Screen Mirroring
Floating Messages
S Pen
Etc
I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
ithehappy said:
I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.
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nijom said:
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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Thanks, I think I'll stick with TouchWiz then!
Right but it's more to personal preference. Most importantly I hate the interface. TW is much better looking for me. I can live with some lags.
CM, overall it's fast but it has some lags when opening a dialer or so. And the battery life is terrible. No matter which rom i've tried on my note 1 & 3 nothing is better than TW.
If i want a stock android i will get a nexus.
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Lol
For me TW is the ugliest.
Never used gimmicks so for me there is no point in TW. Haven't touched stylus in a year, I don't multi task. And there are apps that work even better than Samsung spen apps other than snote, but Microsoft note is great.
Can't compare nexus phones to others as their design and hardware isn't best compared to Sony and htc, and some Samsung phones. I like Samsungs hardware but I have cm on all my devices. I like smoothness of CM if you can sett it up the way you want. Never ever lags here.
For me SoT is up to 8 hours and I'm happy as I have no problem charging phone wherever am I.
If CM was so bad it wouldn't be so popular and used by millions.
And those that buy a Samsung device just like others buy an apple, there is no way they can accept anything else.
Those willing to try new things can try themselves and see if it is working for them or not. Everything else is bull****, as I have listened to those before and this way missed my dream OS till I tried different ones and finally found what I was looking for.
TW is best for those that can't live without it. TW is the worst for those that don't like it.
CM is best for those that like it. CM is worst for those that see no point in it.
nijom said:
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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I agree totally. Before tw lollipop, I couldn't stand tw. Now it feels just as fast as some cm roms, save for a few lightning fast ROMs like slim and validus and minimal.
I do enjoy cm/slim a lot because of all the well designed themes and built in mods/cherry picks.
On tw you need to use xposed, or an app, to achieve different tweaks. But if you cook up a ROM with those features, you're all set. Cough cough aryamod layers, mods, cough cough
I do need more battery life, so sadly I can only use tw for the time being.
But I can find touch wiz app alternatives that suffice when on cm. Although camera quality isn't as good.
I guess I'm a perfect candidate for multi boot...
Tw average sot for my usage: 6 to 7hr
Cm average sot for my usage: 4 to 5hr
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