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[Q] Wifi Hotspot Problems
I cant turn on the Portable Wifi hotspot on the Nexus S. It always says error. Is someone else having the same problem? BTW im on Tmobile.
aliminator said:
I cant turn on the Portable Wifi hotspot on the Nexus S. It always says error. Is someone else having the same problem? BTW im on Tmobile.
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Reboot. Turn off your Wifi first, then enable wifi hotspot tethering.
I tried that and it didn't work.
I don't have data connection but I tried to turn it on and it worked fine.
Hmmmm. Looks like i need to pay 15$ extra to get the service enabled on Tmobile. Strange how i never had to do that with my Nexus One.
I had the same problem, but I kept trying and it eventually worked.
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aliminator said:
Hmmmm. Looks like i need to pay 15$ extra to get the service enabled on Tmobile. Strange how i never had to do that with my Nexus One.
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Do you have some really old and cheap data plan?
They can detect it if you don't pay right?
zachthemaster said:
They can detect it if you don't pay right?
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no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
slowz3r said:
no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
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LOL wut? Course they can detect it. How else do they know if you're over your limit or not. LOL. And no that's not illegal.
One of the things advertised with the NS is no charge for wifi teathering. I think they only require a fee on the 4g devices.
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Slapinfunk said:
One of the things advertised with the NS is no charge for wifi teathering. I think they only require a fee on the 4g devices.
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That's why I asked the OP if he/she had an old cheap data plan. You have to have a current data plan.
Can they detect if you have an old plan? Yes. Can they detect if you're using the tethering/hotspot feature? Probably. Can they detect how much bandwidth you're using? Definately.
Must have an Android plan. Some got away with using a lesser plan but not all apps work. Visual voicemail etc....
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slowz3r said:
no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
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So on an EM+ plan with unlimited data, i could use tethering.. right?
nxt said:
LOL wut? Course they can detect it. How else do they know if you're over your limit or not. LOL. And no that's not illegal.
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Huh? Like they know when you've gone over the limit when X surpasses Y, i.e, 210mbs(X)>200mbs(Y)
zachthemaster said:
So on an EM+ plan with unlimited data, i could use tethering.. right?
Huh? Like they know when you've gone over the limit when X surpasses Y, i.e, 210mbs(X)>200mbs(Y)
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Yes EM+ with unlimited data is fine.
I was replying to slowz3r cuz he said it was illegal if they can "detect it".
And yes, they can detect if you've gone over the limit, or overusing data plan, etc.
nxt said:
Yes EM+ with unlimited data is fine.
I was replying to slowz3r cuz he said it was illegal if they can "detect it".
And yes, they can detect if you've gone over the limit, or overusing data plan, etc.
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Oh cool. So what you're saying is that I don't need to buy tethering?
[Q] Wifi problem?
I unlocked and rooted today and thought everything was fine. However, after the phone was factory reset, all of my apps didn't auto update like before after signings in and Im having a wierd wifi issue.
I can connect to access points but now I can't actually use wifi. The 2 or 3g sign will still be on. Even if I have full bars on wifi I can't use wifi. I went into recovery and fixed permissions and the problem still persists. I have no idea how to fix it short of a factory reset. Could rooting have anything to do with it?
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WifI probs after new update
I've seen the Mobile network problem but this is different . My WiFi signal sits in white and not green until I manually forget network and re apply the SSID.
Worked perfect before update , would walk into my home and it would pick up and connect .
Anyone else having this problem or no of a cure ?
wardy said:
I've seen the Mobile network problem but this is different . My WiFi signal sits in white and not green until I manually forget network and re apply the SSID.
Worked perfect before update , would walk into my home and it would pick up and connect .
Anyone else having this problem or no of a cure ?
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I've had problems with three different handsets (iPhone 3G, Vibrant, Nexus) on different Wi-Fi routers. Believe it or not, what usually fixes the problem is updating the router to it's latest available firmware. I haven't kept up with all of the varieties of WPA2 or 802.11N, but it's helped me...
cheers , I was looking at a new router after Xmas . Thing is it worked flawlessly before the update .
I will do a hard reset and see if that helps
Thanks
So I got the Value plan after getting my Nexus 4 (unlimited data) but been having tethering issues. Please try to help me out if you actually understand the situation, don't just say "It works for me..."
Here's the deal, wired tethering works if I use Clockwork Mods Tether App. I used to think I needed to start up my Chrome from a Nexus 4 User agent, but same thing with and without, it works with the tether app (which obviously uses a companion app on the computer). BUT....A while ago tether never worked with the clockwork mod tether app if I didn't use the UA switch, but now it does, IDK whatever, T-mobile is weird.
However, straight from the settings, WiFi or wired tether never works, with or without APN and UA change (on comp), meaning I especially wont be able to use it on my PS3 and such. Now, I'm not sure if its a hidden APN thing, IDK, though I did create a separate APN and tried that out with the stock tether in the phone and it didn't work.
Anyone know any solutions, T-mobile is pretty good lol...? Lemee say thanks in advance
(A solution i would want is to be able to use it on my PS3 again, on something where I'm not able to install a clockwork mod tether app lol, a process be done phone side to bypass...)
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No help?
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I don't think there is an answer to your question. You've been flagged by T-mobile. The only way to tether again is to pay for it.
El Daddy said:
I don't think there is an answer to your question. You've been flagged by T-mobile. The only way to tether again is to pay for it.
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But the question is, how do they know that you are tethering?
billrd said:
But the question is, how do they know that you are tethering?
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Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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kzoodroid said:
Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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Well the new unlimited 4g value plan is unlimited, and there is NO throttling. However, you can't tether. I was just wondering how they can tell that the data is coming from a tethered laptop and not the phone itself.
billrd said:
Well the new unlimited 4g value plan is unlimited, and there is NO throttling. However, you can't tether. I was just wondering how they can tell that the data is coming from a tethered laptop and not the phone itself.
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Its probably a combination between UA strings and excessive data not usual with a smartphone.
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Yes they can tell
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kzoodroid said:
Yes they can tell
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I agree, but how can they tell? It's not from excessive data usage, at least for me.
billrd said:
I agree, but how can they tell? It's not from excessive data usage, at least for me.
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I've heard of a number ways they can do this, no one really know for sure they just know they can. One is that each device you connect has a unique identifier so they know its not your phone connecting. Another is that with TMo and AT&T in particular all the tethering apps used to use an APN just for tethering and AT&T monitors that APN for traffic to make sure you paid for it. Some wifi tethering apps try to avoid this by not using that APN. I've also read speculation that its the browsers themselves you use that give you away as they have unique identifier strings they send out with each request. This last one maybe the same thing I mentioned first, in that even the same browser on a different device will have different identifiers. So if you use chrome on the phone and on the desktop they will show up as two different devices giving you away.
kzoodroid said:
Because you are using too much data. Their montly 4G plans are capped at a maximum 5GB per month, says it right on their website, after that they throttle you down to 2G speeds.They can also see the unique ip address of everything your tethering, some tethering apps say they can hide the address or at least spoof it so it looks like its coming just from the phone, but if you still use too much data your screwed.
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The whole point of the Monthly 4G plans with the 5GB cap is to tether.
Like i said i could still tether with the clockwork mod app, so whatever its doing (im guessing adding vpn's and stuff on the computer) is working, then i set my chrome browser UA to desktop mode Nexus 4 Chrome. Sometimes if you are not using the UA string, ittl show you the tmobile page. I don't know but kudos to magenta, there method works when you actually get flagged (which im guessing not many do...)
My Nexus 4 from Google Play has free WiFi tethering through T-Mobile! I'm on their unlimited data plan with no tethering but for some reason I could tether to my Galaxy S III...Is this for real or is it to good to be true?
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Tether?
That would be excellent. Anything to economize the process and retain unlimited data. Please let us know if this is legit.
Would solve a problem or two.
Then why ask a question you already know the answer to? It's a well known fact that Tmo nexi are the same as the play store ones. Oh, and you paid for it by paying $500 for the phone if you ask me.
negroplasty said:
Then why ask a question you already know the answer to? It's a well known fact that Tmo nexi are the same as the play store ones. Oh, and you paid for it by paying $500 for the phone if you ask me.
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He said he bought it through the Play Store...
I too bought my Nexus 4 through the play store and am on T-Mobiles unlimited data through a family plan. I tether to my laptop all the time with no issues.
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
mongonexus said:
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
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They want you to pay more for a separate tethering plan if you're going to use data on a different device.
your in the nexus, tether away ,, now if your trying to say on wifi tether on tmo they want to charge a diffrent device id a fee that makes sense to mua
Bratigan said:
That would be excellent. Anything to economize the process and retain unlimited data. Please let us know if this is legit.
Would solve a problem or two.
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It works fine for me I didn't know Nexus phones could get free tethering!
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Scoutamis said:
It works fine for me I didn't know Nexus phones could get free tethering!
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It's not free, the tether feature has been built into Android for awhile. And after awhile T-Mobile will block your tethering, so change your PC's UserAgent to an Android device from T-Mobile.
http://benbuchacher.com/posts/2012/06/bypassing-tmobiles-tethering-filters.html
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
ad_meng298610 said:
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
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Being on an unlimited data plan has nothing to do with being able to tether in the US.
ad_meng298610 said:
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
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Tether has a fee on all the major carriers just check the T-Mobile site. I got texts from T-Mobile telling me to add the tether service.
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quentin0 said:
Being on an unlimited data plan has nothing to do with being able to tether in the US.
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Yes, actually, it does. The T-Mobile unlimited data plans do NOT include tethering. No one is receiving "free" tethering because they have a nexus. T-Mobile will eventually spot it and block them from tethering.
if you have a nexus with the tethering on it your not buying separate tether cause your using your phones same id and whatever your data plan is 2gig, 4gig, 8 gig, or unlimited, your using your allowed data to share to your own gooods, now if you sign up for carrier tethering you use whatever allotment or data you signed up for to share however you may want because your paying separately for the ability to share,,
I thought that after that lawsuit with Verizon, the FCC said that blocking tethering apps was illegal:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Verizon-FCC-Settlement-Tethering-Blocked-Applications,16583.html
Unfortunately that only applies to Verizon.
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here is my experience.
After been blocked from tethering by t mobile in sept, i have changed user agent to android on my laptop, as using the link that is mention in one thread above in this post, then in december t mobile figured it out and blockedmit again. However using fox fi paid version wireless tethering is working.
if anyone knows a permenant way around t mobile wired tethering detection please share it with us.
mongonexus said:
if your on an unlimited data plan, why would you not be able to tether ??
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Because "unlimited data" is for use on the actual phone. Phone as a modem or pam, tethering and or streaming aren't part of the description and violation of the TOS... You risk throttling, additional charges or termination of services. YMMV
clockcycle said:
Because "unlimited data" is for use on the actual phone. Phone as a modem or pam, tethering and or streaming aren't part of the description and violation of the TOS... You risk throttling, additional charges or termination of services. YMMV
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What are the chances of termination of services?
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What are the chances of termination of services?
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Note: Right after that posting 01/07/13.
I was throttled the next day after trying it on straight talk. Needed to access the net via my wife's iphone to download the apn app to get her data to work again. Less than 842k file.
But I did leave proxy settings in, as I was troubleshooting their suddenly slow resolve.
Previously on my sgs3 I used wifi tether on and off as needed. Tethering my n7 and other devices for minimal use. Without proxy settings in the last 6 months.
It's in their TOS, that your are ultimately responsible for device compatibilities and even if your phone has a certain feature, it doesn't mean you can use it.
So YMMV.
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Okay. I've searched XDA and Google, and even posted in another thread here but never got an answer. I am leaving VZW for T Mobile. I am expecting my Nexus 4 to arrive this coming week. I plan on rooting the N4 pretty much as soon as I get it. I have also read lots of posts regarding difficulties tethering a laptop to an N4 on Tmo.
My question is:
Will I be able to tether (wifi or BT) my N7 to my Tmo N4? If so, will i have to use any special apps?
I have had success using PdaNet+ on my VZW phones to tether my N7, but I need to know if Tmo will flag me for the N7 like they do with others for their laptops. My daily usage includes the Slacker Radio and NetFlix apps. i also have OnLive, but didn't typically use it that much due to high latency issues in the Lynnhaven area of Virginia Beach. If absolutely needed, I am open to the VPN option, but I would need instruction as to how to do that (like do I set up the VPN on the N7 or the N4?) but I would prefer, if possible, to just tether normally.
Thanks in advance. Btw, please no "it works for me" posts. If you're going to answer, please provide relevant information(i.e. HOW it works for you). Thanks again!
Re: [Q] Tethering and Nexus 7 to a Nexus 4 on T Mobile Truly Unlimited
I'm also waiting for my n4, but I'm already with tmobile. My current phone is running cm9 and I teather my work laptop to it with no problems. I don't pay extra for teathering and I've never been flaged
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Tunderpimp said:
I'm also waiting for my n4, but I'm already with tmobile. My current phone is running cm9 and I teather my work laptop to it with no problems. I don't pay extra for teathering and I've never been flaged
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And you are on the "Truly Unlimited" plan?
Yes
I surf the net and I transfer files to an ftp with no issues
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i'm on Orange UK (aka. EE now also incorporating T-Mobile) and couldn't originally tether either my dell NB or playbook -- that is, they could connect to the N4 wifi hotspot but no data transfer nor internet access was possible. this was despite my being able to tether successfully on my old HD2 using the same account.
turned-out i needed to phone Orange and have them activate tethering on the phone, i received an "service update" text and restarted, since when it's worked a treat on both devices. there was no charge for this and i was told that orange imposes no restrictions on tethering outside of the existing account data cap, in my case 1GB.
t-mobile may operate a different policy.
EDIT: just realized, Norfolk ... Virginia (not UK), doh!
I'm on tmobile US on the unlimited plan and I'm able to, love it the only thing battery sucks :/
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Truly Unlimited blocks the tethering feature from being added to your account. However, since the Nexus 4 is a stock device and doesn't connect to the network using the tethering APN while tethering is enabled, you should be able to tether any device to your Nexus 4 without issue.
Sv: [Q] Tethering a Nexus 7 to a Nexus 4 on T Mobile Truly Unlimited
Yes you can tether to the Nexus 4 on T-Mo. I don't it a lot but I used to the tether to the Nexus 4 a couple times when no WiFi was available.
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Well that's why I'm asking the question. There is no WIFI at my work so without tethering to my N4, I will have no way to use my N7 online. Like I said in the OP. I watch Netflix everyday during down time and stream Slacker Radio while I'm working. I work security on 9.5 hour shifts. Netflix and Slacker just make the day go by.
Just for anyone wondering, I have had no issues tethering my Nexus 7 with my Nexus 4. Been doing it for a couple weeks now with no issues. Actually, with Verizon 4G, my data speeds would fall of rapidly as the day went on, dropping down below 1 Mbps by noon. With T-Mobile's HSPA+, I have been getting between 8 Mbps and 12 Mbps down and around 2 Mbps up consistently all day every day.
JaiaV said:
Truly Unlimited blocks the tethering feature from being added to your account. However, since the Nexus 4 is a stock device and doesn't connect to the network using the tethering APN while tethering is enabled, you should be able to tether any device to your Nexus 4 without issue.
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youll be able to tether until they catch you, then they will force you to buy the tethering plan if you want to tether further.
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youll be able to tether until they catch you, then they will force you to buy the tethering plan if you want to tether further.
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From what I have read throughout my searches on XDA and Google, it seems that as long as you are tethering another mobile device, i.e. a tablet, they don't seem to be able to tell. I have also read some accounts saying not to use "desktop mode"in your browser. I have been using Chrome, Firefox, Netflix, OnLive, and even BitTorrent (small files so far) with no issues so far.
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From what I have read throughout my searches on XDA and Google, it seems that as long as you are tethering another mobile device, i.e. a tablet, they don't seem to be able to tell. I have also read some accounts saying not to use "desktop mode"in your browser. I have been using Chrome, Firefox, Netflix, OnLive, and even BitTorrent (small files so far) with no issues so far.
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If anyone else has had different experiences with similar usage, and only concerning tethering tablets and other mobile devices via the Nexus 4, please post them for others (and me) to learn from.
I was wondering if anyone has found a way to block T-Mobile from seeing that you're tethering on your plan?
I have the 500mb tethering... but I usually go way over that. Coming from the GNex on Verizon all the custom roms made it so Verizon couldn't see you were tethering. I usually just tether my Nexus 10 when I'm out and about. And it always shows up on my bill that I used X amount of tethering data.
So, is there a way to get around this?
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I was wondering if anyone has found a way to block T-Mobile from seeing that you're tethering on your plan?
I have the 500mb tethering... but I usually go way over that. Coming from the GNex on Verizon all the custom roms made it so Verizon couldn't see you were tethering. I usually just tether my Nexus 10 when I'm out and about. And it always shows up on my bill that I used X amount of tethering data.
So, is there a way to get around this?
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I have the $30, 5GB prepaid plan on T-Mobile, without any additional tethering services enabled. I've done quite a bit of bluetooth tethering to my Nexus 7 and haven't heard anything about it from T-Mobile. So there's one option for you, if you're willing to switch to prepaid.
Well try to not go over or buy more data. Or get the prepaid $70 unlimited plan.
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Well I had to deal with his a lot a few months ago when I use to tether.
When you tether to your laptop. The speed of loading/browser/youtube is a lot quicker than the phone. So they'll be able to detect it especially if you youtube a lot. It resets at the end of your cycle. Sometimes they catch you sometimes they dont.
I've gone a month without being caught and sometimes as little as 5-10 minutes they would block me.
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The apps in google play like foxfi don't hide tether usage from T-Mobile. They detect the user agent. So if your tethering to a computer, for example, Mozilla Firefox browser has an add-on to change the user agent. You have to change it to Android. So it looks like an Android is using the data, and not a laptop. That's the only way they can't detect it now.
I have T-Mobile and they're nazis about tethering.
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I have T-Mobile and they're nazis about tethering.
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No T-Mobile is the nicest at tethering, despite some regulation, nothing compared to ATT Spring and Verizon in term of control.
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eksasol said:
No T-Mobile is the nicest at tethering, despite some regulation, nothing compared to ATT Spring and Verizon in term of control.
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Ehhh....your most likely right. I've only HEARD it's harder to get around tethering blocks with T-Mobile than it is with AT&T or other carriers. I know T-Mobile is cracking down a lot though. But
Thanks everyone for your input. Kinda sucks there's no way to really get around that.
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Thanks everyone for your input. Kinda sucks there's no way to really get around that.
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no it IS possible. read my first post. Change the user agent on the computer, or whatever your tethering to. Mozilla has a user agent switcher, its an add on. change your laptops user agent to "android". or iphone if that's what you have service through. I use this quite a bit to tether to my laptop, and haven't had a problem once.
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no it IS possible. read my first post. Change the user agent on the computer, or whatever your tethering to. Mozilla has a user agent switcher, its an add on. change your laptops user agent to "android". or iphone if that's what you have service through. I use this quite a bit to tether to my laptop, and haven't had a problem once.
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near the end of my last billing cycle i was using the android user agent on chrome, and they actually caught me. but the funny thing(more annoying than funny ) is that for three days in a row after, between 11pm and 1am, my phones browser would start redirecting me to their wireless hotspot landing page, and all my apps would stop working, the play store and other apps that used data. id even see the wireless hotspot landing page in some other apps. i had to call tmobile every time, and have them reset my data connection.
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near the end of my last billing cycle i was using the android user agent on chrome, and they actually caught me. but the funny thing(more annoying than funny ) is that for three days in a row after, between 11pm and 1am, my phones browser would start redirecting me to their wireless hotspot landing page, and all my apps would stop working, the play store and other apps that used data. id even see the wireless hotspot landing page in some other apps. i had to call tmobile every time, and have them reset my data connection.
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This. They will associate that user-agent string as your computer. Congrats, your phone is now a computer . I've heard of people having a similar problem when using a native torrent client on android. Can't remember if T-Mobile was the provider or not.
I left AT&T after 13+ years because of their stance on tethering/data limits. (I was an AT&T member before the Cingular merger.) After ALWAYS buying my devices 2nd hand so I could stay on my truly unlimited data plan, they still sent me a letter saying I'm using too much data, and that I'm tethering (even months when I wouldn't tether)
Came to T-Mobile 2 years ago and now I have real unlimited (999gb a month) but I haven't tested out the tethering yet, since I only use my phone. (They dont offer tethering in the unlimited plan) No tablet, laptop has been turned off for about a year. My desktop is a beast and I have fast cable at home, so no need.
Has anyone tried pdanet? I know they had a hide tethering feature. No idea how well it works.
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