Softkeybar height - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know the nexus10 has a 2560x1600 Resolution but that includes the Softkeybar (Home, Back, Options) which we cant hide. We need the "real" usabable resolution so we dont get on trouble with image cropping etc.
Does anybody know exactly how high the Softkeybar on the Nexus10 is or what the "real" usable Resolution for the Nexus10 is? I googled already but cant find any usefull information.
Would be great to hear something from you guys.
Best regards
Philipp

Just a thought... take a screenshot. If it's less than 1600px high... minus the amount from 1600.

all screenshots i can find are 2560x1600. So that doesnt really help

I think it's 42dip.
for xxhdpi the ratio is about 1:3... So that would be about 126px (42px x 3).
EDIT:
Yep, this should help:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8168329/android-screen-sizes-in-pixels-for-ldpi-mdpi-hpdi

Kryten2k35 said:
I think it's 42dip.
for xxhdpi the ratio is about 1:3... So that would be about 126px (42px x 3).
EDIT:
Yep, this should help:
hm that confuses me. I measured it in photoshop on a 2560x1600 Screen shot and it was 96px. But i wanted to make sure so i hoped for some official info about that.
The DP stuff will be important when choosing sizes for UI Elementes but isnt relevant for the whole "whats resolution to work for" problem.
Isnt there any official Info about how many pixel of the screen height (in landscape mode) i loose to the Softkeybar?
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mitsubstanz said:
Kryten2k35 said:
I think it's 42dip.
for xxhdpi the ratio is about 1:3... So that would be about 126px (42px x 3).
EDIT:
Yep, this should help:
hm that confuses me. I measured it in photoshop on a 2560x1600 Screen shot and it was 96px. But i wanted to make sure so i hoped for some official info about that.
The DP stuff will be important when choosing sizes for UI Elementes but isnt relevant for the whole "whats resolution to work for" problem.
Isnt there any official Info about how many pixel of the screen height (in landscape mode) i loose to the Softkeybar?
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This guide has some of the basic info for density calculations.
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
The value will be different depending on the device's current screen density, but below are the default calculations for the Nexus 10:
The navigation bar height is defined in framework-res as 48dp.
The device's screen density is defined in build.prop as 320.
The density ratio (screen density / android default density of 160) is 2.
48 * 2 = 96px so your measurement in photoshop is right.
You can also visually check using Settings > Developer options > Input subsection > Pointer location
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I just come back to say yeah it was 48dp. I had changed mine using AOKP to 42dp.
The above post is good info.

I don`t use navigation bar or the notififcation bar.
On aokp roms i hide them with gmd gesture control. Very easy to navigate with gestures and have the whole screen real-estate to apps.

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Panel Dimensions

Hi,
The Xperia screen resolution is 800x480. Yet I remember reading somewhere that the panel thumbnail was 400 something by 200 something pixels.
So if I am developing icons for a panel do I go with the 800x480 resolution or the 400 by something?
Can someone please let me know what dimensions need to be used for portrait as well as landscape mode.
Thanks!
You will need:
400 x 180 Landscape pic
200 x 120 Landscape pic
240 x 350 Portrait pic
120 x 175 Portrait pic
Can someone explain the difference...as to why the resolution is 800x480 but the panel size is 400x180?
So any icons I design, I need to make sure they fit within 400x180 for the landscape mode?
Erum said:
Can someone explain the difference...as to why the resolution is 800x480 but the panel size is 400x180?
So any icons I design, I need to make sure they fit within 400x180 for the landscape mode?
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I can only guess that they are smaller because they only work as a preview and probably loads faster.
But if that is the case then it is still debatable as to what size the icons needs to be as that is the actual panel graphics not thumbnails.
I was going thru the documentation and they mention something about double pixeling. And say something like make the icons the right size but state the width and height as half. I'll see if I can find where I read that bit so I can copy/paste the exact thing.
So right now I'm just as confused.

new "iphone panel"

http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/third-party-apps/1503-iphone-panel-2.html#post15224
randy_c said:
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/third-party-apps/1503-iphone-panel-2.html#post15224
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Yes... it is a good one. Thanks for sharing.
Tried it, works good
I wonder if HTML panels support Flash? If yes, then one could probably create more awesome looking stuff...
does the panel itself scroll to the left or right just like the iphone when you try to swipe the panel to the side? thanks.
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Voltus5 said:
does the panel itself scroll to the left or right just like the iphone when you try to swipe the panel to the side? thanks.
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It does not. Also, there is no way to change the settings (for example the background image).
One thing that bothers me is that I have to quickly double-click to open a shortcut, not just a single-click.
dogans said:
It does not. Also, there is no way to change the settings (for example the background image).
One thing that bothers me is that I have to quickly double-click to open a shortcut, not just a single-click.
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i believe u can...by changing the image in the panels under device programs...
pls correct me if i'm wrong,,
You can indeed change it, but you need to know some basic HTML.
I was trying to update this panel myself so that the clock actually told the time not a static image and also the calendar shows the correct day/date.
The calendar shouldn't be too hard, but so far I cannot find a Javascript clock that works with the HTML panel. Sadly the HTML panel does not even seem to support as many features as Pocket IE which itself is dated.
Although the single most annoying thing for me is that the HTML panels only gives you 240x350 resolution to work with as for some odd reason it won't do 1:1 pixel ratio, all images are doubled in size. This stops it looking quite as polished as you can see the pixels whereas the X1 screen is such a good pixel density you normally can't make out the individual pixels. So much so I hadn't even realised ClearType was turned OFF on mine, as the pixels were so small the improvement from turning it on was minimal compared to on PC or a lower resolution XDA. It also makes positioning stuff on the page a PITA, that and most of the CSS positioning is not supported.
Can't running
I can't run this panel with the X2 launcher panel... Someone have a solution ?
And, I search this panel since 4 days (but this panel only ! not the cab with all the x1 panel) :
< img.eprice.com.tw/img/news/8158/52.jpg >
(please copy and paste this link, I am a new user and I can't put link in my messages)
thanks for all.

[Q] Wallpaper sizing on HTC HD2 with Android Build?

I have tried out 3 different android builds, and what I found with the wallpaper when trying to use on the leo is the sizing aspect. You can actually look at the wallpaper in the gallery with no problem full view, the moment you try to use as wallpaper and set it it blows the picture up when set.I am quite aware that the android was not originally made for the HTC HD2 but if you can watch it in the gallery there must be a way.
what resolution are you trying to use for your wallpapers? on my nexus one (same screen res), i have to use 960x800+ backgrounds because of the wallpaper scrolling. if you're trying to use something smaller, it'll be blowing it up i think.
Thats a good question I never changed my screen resolution let me try that and I will get back to you.
Thanks a million
960 x 800 pixels
I need help finding out how to change my screen resolution if possible.
geewld44 said:
I need help finding out how to change my screen resolution if possible.
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I'm afraid that's hardware based. You can try to saw off a part of your screen, but post a vid
Just make sure you use 800x480 with DISABLED wallpaper-scrolling and 800x960 with ENABLED wallpaper-scrolling.
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
Jealousy said:
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
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that caught me out initially...
Jealousy said:
I'm afraid that's hardware based. You can try to saw off a part of your screen, but post a vid
Just make sure you use 800x480 with DISABLED wallpaper-scrolling and 800x960 with ENABLED wallpaper-scrolling.
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
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Yeah I tried to crop the whole pic but it has a mind of its own it enlarges the pic when I hit set thanks for the info.

[Q] Softkeybar height

I know the nexus10 has a 2560x1600 Resolution but that includes the Softkeybar (Home, Back, Options) which we cant hide. We need the "real" usabable resolution so we dont get on trouble with image cropping etc.
Does anybody know exactly how high the Softkeybar on the Nexus10 is or what the "real" usable Resolution for the Nexus10 is? I googled already but cant find any usefull information.
Would be great to hear something from you guys.
Best regards
Philipp
mitsubstanz said:
I know the nexus10 has a 2560x1600 Resolution but that includes the Softkeybar (Home, Back, Options) which we cant hide. We need the "real" usabable resolution so we dont get on trouble with image cropping etc.
Does anybody know exactly how high the Softkeybar on the Nexus10 is or what the "real" usable Resolution for the Nexus10 is? I googled already but cant find any usefull information.
Would be great to hear something from you guys.
Best regards
Philipp
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If you want full screen access (hidden notification and softkeys) then use these two apps, "full!screen" and "LMT/PIE". With that combination you can use all 2560x1600 plus have a notification pop-up menu (full!screen) and a customized auto-hide navigation menu (LMT's Pie feature).
Find full!screen on the plays store and LMT on the XDA forums. You need to be rooted.

[Q] Windows 8.1 Modern UI DPI Scaling

Hello all,
So I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro and so far I really like it.
I have managed to configure the desktop so it is readable through some scaling and text sizes. However, the Modern UI is still very small and I am actually getting a little bit of a headache due to small text and tiles.
I have tried to figure out how to change the scaling and the text size but the "Change the size of apps, text, and other items on the screen" is greyed out. I guess this is due to the screen resolution of the device.
But there must be another way to configure this. I have seen some registry keys which is assosiated with the Modern UI but all these only seems to work with Windows 8.
Any thoughts?
No input at all? It must be possible in some way
olesch said:
Hello all,
So I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro and so far I really like it.
I have managed to configure the desktop so it is readable through some scaling and text sizes. However, the Modern UI is still very small and I am actually getting a little bit of a headache due to small text and tiles.
I have tried to figure out how to change the scaling and the text size but the "Change the size of apps, text, and other items on the screen" is greyed out. I guess this is due to the screen resolution of the device.
But there must be another way to configure this. I have seen some registry keys which is assosiated with the Modern UI but all these only seems to work with Windows 8.
Any thoughts?
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The only thing that really comes to mind is setting the display resolution lower, but of course that will cost you detail and definition on things that ought to be rendered at high DPI (like text and images).
olesch said:
Hello all,
So I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro and so far I really like it.
I have managed to configure the desktop so it is readable through some scaling and text sizes. However, the Modern UI is still very small and I am actually getting a little bit of a headache due to small text and tiles.
I have tried to figure out how to change the scaling and the text size but the "Change the size of apps, text, and other items on the screen" is greyed out. I guess this is due to the screen resolution of the device.
But there must be another way to configure this. I have seen some registry keys which is assosiated with the Modern UI but all these only seems to work with Windows 8.
Any thoughts?
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I came across this on Google and just wanted to drop in and +1 this. I have the desktop configured with 150% scaling, but no settings seem to exist to increase the size of everything in the Modern UI. Hopefully someone else will come across this with some kind of solution. Merry Christmas!
I also bought Venue 8 Pro and find this also the only isue. I was googling a lot and it seems Microsoft requires minimum 1440x1080 resolution for 140% scaling in Windows 8. There is no way or hack for now that can go around this isue:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh465362.aspx
Even those hacks with register to make Windows 8 think screen is smaller wouldnt work, because the isue here is resolution not screen size that that hack changes!
Damm Microsoft, why allow tablet makers to use 1280x800 on 8" if you dont support it well!
I Will survive for now, i have good eyes and at least Metro IE browser has its own setting for making at least browsing larger.
This should be a high priority isue, Microsoft is going big with 8" tablets and all the cheap ones Will have 1280x800....
P.S.: 8" Windows 8 tablet still ROCKS. But if possible go buy one with higher resolution(doesnt existt for now).
Edit: I just recalculated the scaling. 1080 height would not help at all, because it is exactly 40% more pixels than 768... So i gues only Microsoft can change this for 8" tablets. Either by making everything bigger(Will make it hard for developers) or more easily by scaling text seperatly.
I've managed to somewhat improve it by scaling Segoe UI font. So now most of Windows UI looks ugly, but more readable.
So what I have now is
1) 150% DPI scale for desktop (Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display)
2) 150% scaled Segoe UI font
Sometimes these 150% overlap (giving 225% total)
To try this:
1) copy attached fonts to your fonts directory without installing it (use .bat file attached and run it as administrator)
2) let windows use new files instead of original ones (run fonts150.reg or fonts125.reg for smaller scaling)
3) sign out - sign in
nice hack
burma said:
I've managed to somewhat improve it by scaling Segoe UI font. So now most of Windows UI looks ugly, but more readable.
So what I have now is
1) 150% DPI scale for desktop (Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display)
2) 150% scaled Segoe UI font
Sometimes these 150% overlap (giving 225% total)
To try this:
1) copy attached fonts to your fonts directory without installing it (use .bat file attached and run it as administrator)
2) let windows use new files instead of original ones (run fonts.reg)
3) sign out - sign in
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WOW nice hack you have here! Didn't know you can change font size via font files. Great work on TrueType files man!
Would it be hard to also make a 125 version(so it doesnt stand out that much over still smaller UI.)? I think i could like this hack enough for everyday use!
P.S.: the small "f" on keyboard is wrong, and for .bat i would add in begining this line, so it works for everyone: "cd /d %~dp0"
CommanderThor said:
WOW nice hack you have here! Didn't know you can change font size via font files. Great work on TrueType files man!
Would it be hard to also make a 125 version(so it doesnt stand out that much over still smaller UI.)? I think i could like this hack enough for everyday use!
P.S.: the small "f" on keyboard is wrong, and for .bat i would add in begining this line, so it works for everyone: "cd /d %~dp0"
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Added 125 fonts. Not sure what "cd /d %~dp0" does though, on my computer it just gives "path not found" error
Oh nice, i find the 125% version looking fairly good on my 8" Dell Venue 8 Pro, that is i find it better than default, no matter the smal distortion it causes.
Thanks!
Let us know if you update your fonts file again.
As for your bat file it shows me error "cannot find the file specified" when i run it. But after i add that cd command(without the citation marks) it works fine for me.. That command is supposed to change the dir to "where you are running your .bat file from", works fine for some other .bat files i have..
Burma, Thanks so much for the workaround. Didn't know there is a base UI font and there is mapping between font name and font file. A 25% increase in text size works wonder. I wonder why MS can't get such trivial thing right.
Now if I can find a way to disable the random zoom in/out while scrolling screen in IE!
I got a cheap EC Technology Bluetooth keyboard for $14 from amazon. It works pretty well and avoid having the onscreen taking up a lot of screen real estate.
burma said:
I've managed to somewhat improve it by scaling Segoe UI font. So now most of Windows UI looks ugly, but more readable.
So what I have now is
1) 150% DPI scale for desktop (Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display)
2) 150% scaled Segoe UI font
Sometimes these 150% overlap (giving 225% total)
To try this:
1) copy attached fonts to your fonts directory without installing it (use .bat file attached and run it as administrator)
2) let windows use new files instead of original ones (run fonts150.reg or fonts125.reg for smaller scaling)
3) sign out - sign in
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It works fine but the resulted font look very bad can you make the some fix but with a different font? e.g. Verdana font I think will look better... anyway great idea! and thank you.
Thanks so much Burma for the fix.
I've tried the windows magnifier, and the experience is awful on a tablet (it works great on any laptop)
I also tried reducing the resolution, but the biggest problem with that is the loss of widescreen because all the resolutions below the 1280 x 800 default are 4:3
I'm glad I only paid $250 for this tablet, i'm not enjoying Windows 8.1 on a tablet (like I do on PCs).

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