!Houston, S4 have a big problem!! - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, really, even though we try to justify it and show good performance of the battery of our new machine, the truth is that the S4 is very disappointing. The advertised battery with a very good performance and duration of up to two days, but the truth is that in reality do the same things I did with my S2 and S3, the duration is shorter. Roms developers have struggled to reduce consumption, but remain excessive and reheated, not because of them but this time Samsung blew it with the battery, as it did at the time with the first version of the Galaxy S. was a great revolutionary cell, but the battery was not the same level.
What to do about this? complain all, writing in the forums, on the website of Samsung, on Twitter and on all networks require Samsung to correct and improve performance or improve and launch a new battery. Or will we wait for the release and change of cell and paid so much for him to only have four hours of screen use? I leave it to your consideration.
forgive the long and the English with a translator, but it's crazy not to use it how and when I want x fear of running out of battery.

tozoide said:
Hey guys, really, even though we try to justify it and show good performance of the battery of our new machine, the truth is that the S4 is very disappointing. The advertised battery with a very good performance and duration of up to two days, but the truth is that in reality do the same things I did with my S2 and S3, the duration is shorter. Roms developers have struggled to reduce consumption, but remain excessive and reheated, not because of them but this time Samsung blew it with the battery, as it did at the time with the first version of the Galaxy S. was a great revolutionary cell, but the battery was not the same level.
What to do about this? complain all, writing in the forums, on the website of Samsung, on Twitter and on all networks require Samsung to correct and improve performance or improve and launch a new battery. Or will we wait for the release and change of cell and paid so much for him to only have four hours of screen use? I leave it to your consideration.
forgive the long and the English with a translator, but it's crazy not to use it how and when I want x fear of running out of battery.
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comparing the battery to your icrap... the samsung's is far far better... difference is night and day... so go stick that icrap of yours in your arse...

he didnt even mention an idevice

borgqueenx said:
he didnt even mention an idevice
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I speak of S4, and corrected the error in the title of the post

nm8 said:
comparing the battery to your icrap... the samsung's is far far better... difference is night and day... so go stick that icrap of yours in your arse...
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Thats a bit harsh! I dont agree with the OP, battery is not that bad but still a bit harsh my friend!

germinus said:
Thats a bit harsh! I dont agree with the OP, battery is not that bad but still a bit harsh my friend!
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ok i apologize to op... my bad...

nm8 said:
comparing the battery to your icrap... the samsung's is far far better... difference is night and day... so go stick that icrap of yours in your arse...
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I speak not of other brands, I mean no actual improvement from the battery S3 vs S4. Before writing reads well, Samsung fanboy

tozoide said:
I speak not of other brands, I mean no actual improvement from the battery S3 vs S4. Before writing reads well, Samsung fanboy
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well before you complain, test first.. I have an S3, I ha a note 2, and now S4.. I can safely say the battery longevity with my usage is in between S3 and Note 2... so it is actually good... bearing in mind I only had the S4 for 2 days and the battery hasn't reached its full potential.

On my old S2 I was able to get about 2 hours of screen use. S4 give me roughly 4-5 hours, so yes dear OP very disappointing. Maybe two weeks of constant use would make You satisfied? I think that it can be easily achieved by Samsung - by using car battery.

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[Q] Desire HD Battery Time and Price

I live in Turkey and I think that this phone can not come to Turkey before than 2011. So I would like to learn batter time of DHD. After I'll decide that should I wait or not? Who has this phones, can you share your battery time and prices with us please?
Anywhere between 5 and 10 minutes. Oh wait, you mean the battery?
jords12 said:
Anywhere between 5 and 10 minutes. Oh wait, you mean the battery?
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I mean battery, how many days are going on?
edi1907 said:
I mean battery, how many days are going on?
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Days? If you use it quite often probably not more than one
About battery it turns out that If battery performance is critical for you DHD might not be the choice.
Read here
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/product-guide/view/87847/review/90031
if you don't mind a phone that comes without the HTC Sense UI and HTCSense.com, there are phones, like the Samsung Galaxy S, which might be a better choice over the HTC Desire HD. Why so? The HTC Desire HD might be an impressive phone, but there are certain aspects where we weren't too pleased about. The HTC Desire HD comes with an S-LCD screen that pales in comparison to the former's SUPER AMOLED screen. The HTC Desire HD is a hefty and heavy phone that might not be everyone's liking. These aspects also affect its battery life, and thus it's certainly not the best among the other contenders
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Here is craigspc's review from this thread
And now the deal breaker.. The battery… Oh dear oh dear.. I always thought my desire was borderline, but within a couple of hours of use the DHD had gone from full to just 29%. I was gutted! Completely and utterly gutted!!! Fair enough, it was on for most of the time, but apart from 5 minutes with the camera, 10 minutes with co-pilot and about an hour with Google maps in town, it really didn’t get all that much of a workout.
I was looking forward to this phone so much, but if that battery consumption turns out to be right I'm going to have to reconsider my options...
Anxiously await feedback from others as multiple charge cycles have been made....
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I was one of the ones who have been waiting for this battery performance reviews and if it DHD can not really stand even over 4 hours with heavy-use ok Android rulez but Iphone 4is much better a choice in terms of battery.

So I was just wondering..

How does the best that apple has to offer (4,4s,5 whatever) compare to our Nexus 4 in terms of screen on time. I see 4-5 hours screen on which I read is normal. 2 1/2 hours if playing a big game like The Sims 3. I can't seem to find a straight answer through searching so I was hoping a well versed Android user can tell me how many hours of screen on time that a healthy iDevice achieves on average.
They actually magically have some great battery. That is if their on a bugless ios version. From all the past idevices I've had I get more than average battery. I guess it depends on the user.. As for charging they charge hella quick.
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Great question
Ios battery life is better simply because it's much simpler compare to avoid complex os with true multitasking. N4 also has to support a more powerful chip and bigger screen.
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Yeah, you really can't compare. N4 has: Bigger screen, more powerful processor, faster gpu... the iPhone has better battery life most likely because it is better optimized and has a far smaller screen.
I really don't care about what you can and can't compare. I would just like to know what real users experience on an iPhone in terms of screen on as I've always been an Android user.
Also the iPhone 5 does have a 4 inch screen, dual core and 1gb ram so I'd expect it to last longer as well as not be a contender with the N4 in performance. Sims 3 on the N4 is unbelievable.
I don't want to have to register on another forum and would just like to hear from a real user.
I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.
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I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.
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Wow I just did a search on Note II average battery life and am seeing many screen shots with 8 hours! If it weren't for the facts that I don't want to carry a tablet in my pocket everyday and my N4 (and Gnex before it) never once has come close to running out of battery before coming home at night, I may consider the Note 3 or current phablet as my next phone in a few years.
Still would like an answer to my original question, though.
Anyone?
If you check the Anandtech Nexus 4 review (I can't post a link as I'm a new user) it compares the the 4, 4S and 5 to the Nexus 4 in browsing tests. For all devices screen brightness was set to 200 nits however the nexus is stock. In short you'll get about twice as much browsing time out of an iPhone 5 as you will from a stock Nexus 4 on mobile data. On wifi you'll get about 1.6 times. Although it's not a "screen-on" test it's a good gauge of battery life.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-nex...test-see-if-its-better-than-the-galaxy-nexus/
The iPhone5 does consistently great in battery benchmarks.
The Web Browsing performance (what matters most IMO) is hands-down incredible.
My guess is that the smaller screen and highly optimized CPU are responsible.

[Q] battery life comparison exynos vs snapdragon?

Are there any comparisons of the two cpus available on the s4 when it comes to battery life? Thats the only reason for me to try to get an exynos version if its shows to be better in that respect.
Yeah, that's a good question I want to know the answer too, there are many people having testing devices but they are too hungry about testing the damn processor and gpu instead testing properly the battery life. -_-
demlasjr said:
Yeah, that's a good question I want to know the answer too, there are many people having testing devices but they are too hungry about testing the damn processor and gpu instead testing properly the battery life. -_-
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Lord knows battery Life is very important to me.
the guy that's testing whatever people tell him to test said that when his battery got down to 30% it lasted like 3 hours with max brightness and benchmarks running
frankyy714 said:
the guy that's testing whatever people tell him to test said that when his battery got down to 30% it lasted like 3 hours with max brightness and benchmarks running
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With wich cpu? Also no comparison to the other version mentioned here.
I'm not convinced, even with S3 you can spend all the battery juice in 3 hours if you want. To do a proper test you need to leave the device doing the same job like an Snapdragon S4 during the same time.
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Octa has a longer battery life than SD600.
That's why samsung used 8 cores technology.
And by the way the 5inch HD screen saves power too for both version
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HMJ-q8 said:
Octa has a longer battery life than SD600.
That's why samsung used 8 cores technology.
And by the way the 5inch HD screen saves power too for both version
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Thaty what one hears, yes.
However I would like some actual test reports - for instance how long does the phone last for web browsing, for video playback and on standby?
I would like to see actual numbers.
As for the screen:
It is said to use 25% less power compared to previous amoled display generations. However that 25% value is something we have to trust samsung on I think, at least I have not seen any actual tests on power consuption of the display alone and it's probably not easy to test.
The way they have managed the display to consume less power is to use use phosphorescent instead of fluorescent green diodes, which use way less power. Until now they could not produce the green ones with an acceptable lifetime. The red ones have already been phosphorescent, and the blue one are still fluorescent since they are hardest to produce.
See here for some further details: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...een-PHOLED-screen-tech-but-what-is-it_id40715
Hironimo said:
Thaty what one hears, yes.
However I would like some actual test reports - for instance how long does the phone last for web browsing, for video playback and on standby?
I would like to see actual numbers.
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This. This so many times over.
So many people are parroting the "Exynos will have better battery life" thing but this really remains to be seen.
If the better battery life is in exchange for crippled A7 performance at inconvenient moments then it's useless. If better battery life isn't available for when you're using intensive apps then it's also useless.

[Q] Which of the kernel is best for extending S4 battery time

I just got new S4 in black and i am loving it. I really feel for the first time that iphone has a real competition now, as the user experienced is very much improved.
Any how we all know S4 is the best, but it is very bad with battery time. I previously had a note2 device you and it usually last more than 2 days on my average use (despite of its much bigger screen size). To make S4 last longer i have turned off every extra feature (i.e air view, smart scroll and all such stuff) but still battery is draining very fast. So this is what i wanted to know...
WHICH IS THE BEST KERNEL THAT CAN HELP IN BOOSTING THE BATTERY TIME OF S4?
when i had a S2 i used Siyah, and it almost doubled my battery time, 2 days even with data on. It was crazy. I am expecting something similar. Please guide me.
And thank you all in advance
what version do you have 505 or 500
Hazerd said:
what version do you have 505 or 500
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its i9500
adam kernel may safe some battery
can anyone give advice about battery life?
which rom can make battery life longer?
s4/I9505
thanks

LG is an Idiot.

Our phones are not inefficient. No not at all. If you think about it, on a 3000 mah battery we get good battery life compared to other phones with the same or bigger battery. But here is my gripe, and it pisses me the hell off. The G2 had a 5.2 inch 1080p display with a 3000 mah battery. Now how the heck can LG be dumb enough to not upgrade the battery when they stretched the screen size by .3 inches and more than doubled the resolution? Thats literally the dumbest thing ive seen come from lg. Albiet everything else is top notch on this phone, and the battery life is still pretty darn good. Its just a stupid move by lg that makes no sense whatsoever. Its like giving a mustang a gas tank the size of a 4 cylinder prius. [emoji57]
helikido said:
Our phones are not inefficient. No not at all. If you think about it, on a 3000 mah battery we get good battery life compared to other phones with the same or bigger battery. But here is my gripe, and it pisses me the hell off. The G2 had a 5.2 inch 1080p display with a 3000 mah battery. Now how the heck can LG be dumb enough to not upgrade the battery when they stretched the screen size by .3 inches and more than doubled the resolution? Thats literally the dumbest thing ive seen come from lg. Albiet everything else is top notch on this phone, and the battery life is still pretty darn good. Its just a stupid move by lg that makes no sense whatsoever. Its like giving a mustang a gas tank the size of a 4 cylinder prius. [emoji57]
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Because the battery in the G2 was not removable. It is removable in the G3. That's why.
bigkevbosky said:
Because the battery in the G2 was not removable. It is removable in the G3. That's why.
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It is still a stupid move they could not anticipate that allot of people would not want to remove the battery all the time.
Simple concept: Increase the battery capacity with every generation to accommodate the more juice needed. Look at samsung. Their batteries always increased.
helikido said:
It is still a stupid move they could not anticipate that allot of people would not want to remove the battery all the time.
Simple concept: Increase the battery capacity with every generation to accommodate the more juice needed. Look at samsung. Their batteries always increased.
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The battery is fine,the lag and stutter is the problem.
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I really think its about choosing the right phone for you.
I had my LG for my first day today at work (day 3) and after 14hrs I still have 68% left. OK admittedly its been a very light day in terms of usage but today I am a happy user because I have an awesome display with a great phone with all the features that I was looking for and it was able to get through my day with a great deal of battery life left.
The question you need to ask yourself is have you bought the right phone for your needs?
Batfink33 said:
The battery is fine,the lag and stutter is the problem.
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Lag and stutter? Ohh you mean thw decreased frame rates to save battery life. Yeah you do know that stems from the battery issue correct?
And i dont notice any lag or stutter. Everyonce in a while. But hey its a stock rom. Pretty much expected. The Gs5 is worse...
helikido said:
It is still a stupid move they could not anticipate that allot of people would not want to remove the battery all the time.
Simple concept: Increase the battery capacity with every generation to accommodate the more juice needed. Look at samsung. Their batteries always increased.
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Their batteries also are always removable. I'm not saying they shouldn't have tried to go with a 3,200 removable. However so many people complained about the sealed in battery, they thought they were giving the people what they wanted. Their battery size technically did increase. The Korean G2 with a removable battery was 2,600 mah and now the international g3 with the removable battery is 3,000 mah. If they would have kept it embedded I'm sure the battery would have been around 3,500 mah.
helikido said:
Lag and stutter? Ohh you mean thw decreased frame rates to save battery life. Yeah you do know that stems from the battery issue correct?
And i dont notice any lag or stutter. Everyonce in a while. But hey its a stock rom. Pretty much expected. The Gs5 is worse...
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Decreased frame rates when your playing a game is a problem. Its annoying and ruins the game.
Personally i'm liking the phone so far. The battery life isn't all that bad unless the screen is on most of the time. I'm actually quite surprised that the battery life is that good. My phone usually lasts me a full day even if I leave my house without it fully charged (80% or so).
But of course I have a spare battery with me just in case. Doesn't hurt to be prepared
KaidM said:
I really think its about choosing the right phone for you.
I had my LG for my first day today at work (day 3) and after 14hrs I still have 68% left. OK admittedly its been a very light day in terms of usage but today I am a happy user because I have an awesome display with a great phone with all the features that I was looking for and it was able to get through my day with a great deal of battery life left.
The question you need to ask yourself is have you bought the right phone for your needs?
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Yes I love my G3 and i chose it over the m8 and GS5. It's just this one thought that grinds my gears a bit. It is a logical step and it seemed they cheaped out on it.
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Their batteries also are always removable. I'm not saying they shouldn't have tried to go with a 3,200 removable. However so many people complained about the sealed in battery, they thought they were giving the people what they wanted. Their battery size technically did increase. The Korean G2 with a removable battery was 2,600 mah and now the international g3 with the removable battery is 3,000 mah. If they would have kept it embedded I'm sure the battery would have been around 3,500 mah.
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I was thinking more like a 3500 mah in this phone. It would help allot. Yet they didnt think that they would kill 2 birds with one stone if they increased capacity and added the removable function.
helikido said:
Yes I love my G3 and i chose it over the m8 and GS5. It's just this one thought that grinds my gears a bit. It is a logical step and it seemed they cheaped out on it.
I was thinking more like a 3500 mah in this phone. It would help allot. Yet they didnt think that they would kill 2 birds with one stone if they increased capacity and added the removable function.
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I mean I would have loved more juice too, I'm just going to give them benefit of the doubt and assume, they couldnt keep the bezels as slim as they are and making the battery removable and adding microsd card slot while increasing the removable battery size more than from 2,600 to 3,000.
But i agree 3,500 would probably have been the sweet spot.
Fair enough that actually may be another reason i never thought of. Silly me.
Do you guys think a battery manufacturer might be able to produce a 3500mah battery the same size as the stock one? Its okay if it a tighter fit.
Life is about compromises for most people and sadly the same is true about our choice of phone ......
helikido said:
Fair enough that actually may be another reason i never thought of. Silly me.
Do you guys think a battery manufacturer might be able to produce a 3500mah battery the same size as the stock one? Its okay if it a tighter fit.
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Are you not understanding the fact that it's easier and much more possible for a manufacturer to include a higher capacity battery by making it non-removable? The battery is as good as it's going to get with the current form factory and removability. And LG makes great batteries, so don't expect some eBay store to beat them. You can buy a second battery, get a portable charger, or get a new phone.
Sent from my LG G3
helikido said:
Fair enough that actually may be another reason i never thought of. Silly me.
Do you guys think a battery manufacturer might be able to produce a 3500mah battery the same size as the stock one? Its okay if it a tighter fit.
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These folks are claiming they already have such a thing...
2 X 3,500mah batteries with Charger
helikido said:
Do you guys think a battery manufacturer might be able to produce a 3500mah battery the same size as the stock one? Its okay if it a tighter fit.
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A guy on G+ in the G3 community bought a 3500mAh battery on I think Ebay. Yes it's the same size but I think when he took videos it locked or something. Personally I would never buy a cheap battery or a non LG battery for a $600 phone. That's one reason why they catch on fire.
I've owned the G2, Flex and now the G3. I think LG is doing great with the battery life, camera, and design. The Flex had great battery life with the 3,500mAh battery but is noticeable bigger then the G3.
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The battery is fine,the lag and stutter is the problem.
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And the sharpening
I can deal with the battery....what's unacceptable is the lag.
Its almost putting me on the verge of never buying an LG ever again.
The HTC M7 was blazing fast compared to this and made the phone a enjoyable experience.....optimize the software you F*ckwits.
I hate lag, I hate it I hate it........the saving grace which is starting to wear thin is that its so pretty to look at, that is untill I turn the thing on and the lag infuriates me again.
No problems here with battery life with my kind of use, 2 days of normal use till charge
Never ever had that with my other smartphones
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Lag, lag lag...All these posts about lag. As a former Nexus 5 owner, these lag complaints are what infuriate me. Change your animations to .5, switch to ART. Install nova or another 3rd party launcher. Personally, I have the 3/32 on Sprint and I don't see the lag. Again, I'm coming from N5 so you'd think I'd notice, right? Well, I don't. I switched to nova for about a week and then I switched back to stock. With animations at .5, I think stock is just as fast. Seriously people, if the phone disgusts you that much, return it. There are plenty of others, like me, even professional phone reviewers, who think this is currently the best android device available. Also, I know you're all entitled to your opinions as am I, not trying to start a flame war here. :end rant:

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