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A bit confused about OTA

I asked this questions in other threads, but i received literally opposite answers, so i decided to make a thread and explain my situation.
I am a noob and i installed twrp recovery and sabermod rom,before installing sabermod i made a nandroid backup of stock 4.2.2 rom,as you all know android 4.3 will be released soon,and i got some question:
1)If i restore my backup of stock 4.2.2 will i be able to update via OTA even if i have twrp recovery ?If yes will all be updated ? (radio,bootloader,rom ecc. ) and will i keep my custom recovery ?
2)If the answer to the first question is no ( i won't be able to update via OTA with twrp recovery) how can i update to 4.3 when it will be released?

A nandroid backup does not restore the bootloader or radio. Only system, data, and boot.
If no other modifications are made the ota will go through with a custom recovery.
More info here in this stickied thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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El Daddy said:
A nandroid backup does not restore the bootloader or radio. Only system, data, and boot.
If no other modifications are made the ota will go through with a custom recovery.
More info here in this stickied thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Yes i know that a nandroid backup doesn't restore bootoader and radio, my question was if an OTA will update bootloader and radio in addition to the rom, i guess yes right ?
In your thread i think to be in scenario 2, so i need to flash the ota via custom recovery instead of getting automatically updated like in stock rom ?

If the ota has a new bootloader and radio it will as long as your have the up-to-date versions installed.
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can someone advise please?

Hi
I have a new galaxy s4 on contract (unrooted, stock). I would like to try out some of the custom roms from this forum.
This will affect my warranty, counter etc.
I can use the Rom Manager app to take a backup of my system as it is now, If I need to take my galaxy s4 back to the store for
repairs etc., would a restore of this Rom Manager backup leave the phone EXACTLY as it was when I got it? including rom counter etc?
Would it also work on Kies? (I haven't used Kies yet but I understand that it recognises that a phone has been rooted / had custom
roms applied.
thank you
firbolg

firbolg said:
Hi
I have a new galaxy s4 on contract (unrooted, stock). I would like to try out some of the custom roms from this forum.
This will affect my warranty, counter etc.
I can use the Rom Manager app to take a backup of my system as it is now, If I need to take my galaxy s4 back to the store for
repairs etc., would a restore of this Rom Manager backup leave the phone EXACTLY as it was when I got it? including rom counter etc?
Would it also work on Kies? (I haven't used Kies yet but I understand that it recognises that a phone has been rooted / had custom
roms applied.
thank you
firbolg
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You have to flash custom recovery in order to flash custom rom, it means that your binary counter will increase, you can run triangle away if you have I9505 with no new firmware, then flash your stock rom before send it to warranty
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samersh72 said:
You have to flash custom recovery in order to flash custom rom, it means that your binary counter will increase, you can run triangle away if you have I9505 with no new firmware, then flash your stock rom before send it to warranty
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Hi samersh72
thanks for the quick reply. Sorry but I'm not clear on it.
Are you saying that after flashing custom rom(s) I cannot reset the phone by restoring the Rom Manager backup I took before flashing custom roms? Why is that?
If that's the case:
I think triangle away on the gs4 only works on stock roms? Does that mean that to reset the phone I would have to flash stock rom first and then run triangle away?
Would the flashing / triangle away also remove root?
firbolg

Sir you have a lot of reading to do. Have a look in the stick thread section for guides, tutorials and explanations. There are new security measures that will render your phone out of warranty with no way of returning it to stock condition. Read well.
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firbolg said:
Hi samersh72
thanks for the quick reply. Sorry but I'm not clear on it.
Are you saying that after flashing custom rom(s) I cannot reset the phone by restoring the Rom Manager backup I took before flashing custom roms? Why is that?
If that's the case:
I think triangle away on the gs4 only works on stock roms? Does that mean that to reset the phone I would have to flash stock rom first and then run triangle away?
Would the flashing / triangle away also remove root?
firbolg
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1) root
2) flash custom recovery
3) make the nandroid backup for your stock firmware.
4) play with custom roms
5) restore your stock firmware, run triangle away, unroot, send it to warranty.
triangle away does not remove root. unroot by flashing stock.
PS. triangle away does not run on new firmwares. MH8, 6, GG ...
avoid flashing them at this moment. once flashed, you can not downgrade due to the locked bootloader

HANDSY said:
Sir you have a lot of reading to do. Have a look in the stick thread section for guides, tutorials and explanations. There are new security measures that will render your phone out of warranty with no way of returning it to stock condition. Read well.
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Totally agree!
I cannot emphasise how important reading is before you do anything! Read read and read again! It'll save you stress in the future, believe me!
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RossFixxed said:
Totally agree!
I cannot emphasise how important reading is before you do anything! Read read and read again! It'll save you stress in the future, believe me!
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Thanks all. I'm reading |
firbolg

Backing up Galaxy s4

Hey guys
Quick question here guys, im a complete noob on android. Ive rooted my phone, and have installed greenify, titanium backup, and clockworkmod recovery software. I read somewhere i should have made a back up copy before rooting. Is it too late to unroot, or can i still do it now? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers

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xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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awesome thanks, just did it and it worked fine!
thanks

xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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Wittyusernametaken said:
Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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RockRatt said:
If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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Well darn. I'm running stock mdl. Haven't tried a custom rom because I don't have a external storage card, not to mention after using Titanium and greenify and whatnot I've pretty much got it how I want it at this point. Oh well live and learn. Thank you for the information. There's so much I'm trying to learn post iPhone 5.
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Returning to stock

Hello all,
I want to return to an unrooted stock rom but just want to check things first before I do.....
If I download the latest stock firmware from samfirmware and flash with odin will I -
1- loose root???
2- be able to restore my data + apps etc using Titanium Backup or do I need root access (if lost) to do this???
3- need to flash anything else, modems etc???
Im experienced with flashing custom roms etc but have never returned to full stock on the S4.
Im waiting delivery of my NotePro 12.2 and am still using my Note 2 for work purposes and want all my devices to be able to talk to each orher as Samsung intended (well try it at least)
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extrememonkey said:
Hello all,
I want to return to an unrooted stock rom but just want to check things first before I do.....
If I download the latest stock firmware from samfirmware and flash with odin will I -
1- loose root???
2- be able to restore my data + apps etc using Titanium Backup or do I need root access (if lost) to do this???
3- need to flash anything else, modems etc???
Im experienced with flashing custom roms etc but have never returned to full stock on the S4.
Im waiting delivery of my NotePro 12.2 and am still using my Note 2 for work purposes and want all my devices to be able to talk to each orher as Samsung intended (well try it at least)
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#1: you will loose root.
#2: you will not be able to restore apps+data using titanium backup (titanium backup requires root)
#3: you will need to root the phone by flashing a zip file like cf-autoroot.
#4: if the stock firmware you plan to flash is 4.3 you should read up and find out about KNOX first.
Good luck!

Misterjunky said:
#1: you will loose root.
#2: you will not be able to restore apps+data using titanium backup (titanium backup requires root)
#3: you will need to root the phone by flashing a zip file like cf-autoroot.
#4: if the stock firmware you plan to flash is 4.3 you should read up and find out about KNOX first.
Good luck!
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I know about Knox.... its easy to uninstall or not install in the first place!!!
I wont be using Knox on my S4 but do use it on my Note 2 and will on the NotePro when it finally arrives!!!
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Just flashed 4.3 (XXUEMKF baseband MJ5 to be precise) and I can't turn wifi on what so ever....
Any tips, do I need to flash a new modem???
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Ok I'm now on stock 4.3 XXUEMKF both Baseband and Build.
When I go into Download mode I have no KNOX lines at all but my Binary is still custom.
I have tried to flash the wifi fix modem from the modem post - but as there is no MJ5 modem non seem to work (tried the mod and the me modems) still nothing....
Any advise from anyone would be greatly received!!!!
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Flash one of this modem to solve the problem
**If you are having the old bootloader flash GSM_Modem_XXUEMJ5_and_LTE_Modem_XXUBMH1.tar file with odin by selecting phone.
**If you are having the new bootloader flash GSM_Modem_XXUEMJ5_and_LTE_Modem_XXUEMJ5.tar file with odin by selecting phone.
Credits to Omega team! :good:

[Q]Revert note 3 stock cwm recovery (backup) from custom c-rom kk v6.6

So here are the situation,, i manage to root and push cwm recovery from kingo one click root android and succeded,,so i decided to flash c-rom using custom recovery and still enjoying it right now,,i do a nandroid backup first brfore doing this from stock rom kitkat 4.4.2.so my concern is,, how or will i able to flash back my nandroid backup (the stock firmware) if i wanted to get back my note 3 from c-rom kk v6.6 custom rom?.im still new from this device when it comes rooting and custom things so i was gone here to ask,,just a little confused coz some says like what i researched getting their phone to bootloop.
And another thing,,if i full/clean wipe (delete data/system/cache/etc)and do the flashing,,is there any possible issues that i was to expect?? Tnx people
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amzkyz said:
So here are the situation,, i manage to root and push cwm recovery from kingo one click root android and succeded,,so i decided to flash c-rom using custom recovery and still enjoying it right now,,i do a nandroid backup first brfore doing this from stock rom kitkat 4.4.2.so my concern is,, how or will i able to flash back my nandroid backup (the stock firmware) if i wanted to get back my note 3 from c-rom kk v6.6 custom rom?.im still new from this device when it comes rooting and custom things so i was gone here to ask,,just a little confused coz some says like what i researched getting their phone to bootloop.
And another thing,,if i full/clean wipe (delete data/system/cache/etc)and do the flashing,,is there any possible issues that i was to expect?? Tnx people
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Wipe dalvik, cache, system and data. Then restore your backup. Should be good[emoji51]
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