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[Q] Sony Xperia Arc Opinions

The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.

how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.

Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.

SEFanX10i said:
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update

+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
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And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.

oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers

joplin48 said:
I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
GN Multimedia - X10i

Nope. No front-view camera.

McHan said:
Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
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Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design

There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
Neo
>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)

My wife is going to kill me...

...because I just bought a white Xperia arc S on eBay as I miss my old one so much.
The question is whether I'll keep my new Nexus 4 or not as if I'm completely honest I'm not that happy with it. The camera is rubbish, I have serious WiFi issues ... but my biggest concern is the glass back - I dropped my old arc S about half a dozen times and it suffered no damage whatsoever but if I drop my N4 it's going to smash. Yes, I could get a case for it but it's already huge - too big really. I bought the official bumper but my headphones won't fit when it's on and it makes it almost impossible to use one-handed.
I must be mad right? But I think this rush to larger screens on high-end phones is a mistake. Nearly all the rumoured high-end 2013 Android devices are going to have a 5" 1080p screen which is just too big. I was tempted to try the Acer S500 but Acer have a terrible reputation for crappy hardware and poor support. I saw a mint condition arc S on eBay last night and just couldn't resist it.
Maybe I'll keep both and use the arc S for messing with ROMs, etc.
And do know something else that bugs me - people in this arc forum are generally helpful and polite, treating "noobs" with respect. Over in the N4 forum it is completely different - God help you if you ask something they deem a "stupid" question as they'll rip you to pieces. Very sad.
Despite Sony not coming through with JB, despite housing cracks, despite poor ICS performance, low memory, low storage space, I still think the arc S is a GREAT phone. The design is second-to-none, you can swap the battery, you can use an SD card, you can listen to FM radio, the screen is excellent and the camera compared to the N4 is in a different league. Plus I got myself a Nexus 7 back in the summer so my smartphone needs have changed somewhat - gaming for example is something I only do on the N7 now.
So there you have it. The grass isn't always greener on the other side!

Honesty can't get any better than this.
I'm feeling the same way about my arc S, believe me. I have a feeling that I will use it as long as possible, and even after I get another phone, I doubt, very much, that I will ever sell this one.
This beauty is not yet matched, and I doubt it will be matched any time soon.
You know, I have this friend of mine, not very tech educated, but he likes to spend money on new tech gadgets, because he can.
Up untill few days ago, he was having HTC Evo 3D, and he always played with my phone, telling that it's the most beautiful phone he ever saw. Now he bought iPhone 4S to "test it a little bit", and he still plays with my phone every time we go out on coffee. He is looking arc S from every angle like for dozens of times, and keeps repeating that it's the most beautiful phone ever designed.
He never opted to buy it because then it wouldn't be "status symbol" he is carying around, but it's enough for me to see with what desire he is looking at my phone.
And he is not the only one. My other friends, using other phones/brands, share the same opinion about arc S.
It is repeated for thousands of times already, that build quality could be better (and it could, indeed), but design is yet to be matched. And judging by actual trends in smartphone designs (Sony included), like creating lifeless boring plates, I doub't that any time soon we will see an original and sexy design like with Xperia arc/S.
And, congratulations on your new white arc S. :good:

mr_torture said:
Honesty can't get any better than this.
And, congratulations on your new white arc S. :good:
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Thanks.
And if I had of posted something like this on the N4 forum it would already be full of insulting replies.

rec71 said:
...because I just bought a white Xperia arc S on eBay as I miss my old one so much.
Despite Sony not coming through with JB, despite housing cracks, despite poor ICS performance, low memory, low storage space, I still think the arc S is a GREAT phone. The design is second-to-none, you can swap the battery, you can use an SD card, you can listen to FM radio, the screen is excellent and the camera compared to the N4 is in a different league. Plus I got myself a Nexus 7 back in the summer so my smartphone needs have changed somewhat - gaming for example is something I only do on the N7 now for example.
So there you have it. The grass isn't always greener on the other side!
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I still have my original arc, which is getting on for two years old now (housing replaced under warranty) and as like yourself was going to upgrade to the N4, but reading this had made me think twice about it. I also bought a nexus 7 back in July which covers most of my needs gaming, movies, skygo etc.
Cheers for posting your thoughts, it sounds like we have similar tastes in gadgets, so i think for now my arc shall suffice. Maybe a reduction in my line rental is the way to go.

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But I think this rush to larger screens on high-end phones is a mistake.
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+1 I just don't get it, bigger Phones are a step backwards imo and everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon. I sold my Arc to buy a Ray because it does everything I required from my Arc but I just craved the compactness as the even the Arc was just a little too big in the pocket and it's like going from my old Nokia 3210 to an 8210. My actual upgrade isn't due until April but with Sony's current line up of Phones I'm struggling to decide what I might upgrade to as they're all just too big or too ugly for my liking.
Something between the Ray and the Arc (the two most beautiful devices I have ever owned) with the same kind of sleek design as both would be right up my street. The novelty factor of just how beautiful the Ray is hasn't worn off as I still do what mr tortures friend does and pick it up just to admire it lol.

From usability point, when holding with one hand and using it, going above 4.2 inch is nonsense.
I loaded mine with almost 2GB (a2sd on stock kernel with disabled zram) and still happily running.
Kind Regards, vr.
PS: Since this is your second come back, you have to stay at least entire next year?!

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PS: Since this is your second come back, you have to stay at least entire next year?!
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Yes! I promise. I'm actually going to try stock (rooted though) GB for a bit.
For those that don't know I used an Xperia S for a while earlier this year (wife kindly swapped for my arc S) and I bid this forum goodbye. And I hated it. My wife has it back now. The camera is good but those horrible soft buttons... what were Sony thinking? lol.
I have to say it again - the community around here is superb.

XperienceD said:
+1 I just don't get it, bigger Phones are a step backwards imo and everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon. I sold my Arc to buy a Ray because it does everything I required from my Arc but I just craved the compactness as the even the Arc was just a little too big in the pocket and it's like going from my old Nokia 3210 to an 8210. My actual upgrade isn't due until April but with Sony's current line up of Phones I'm struggling to decide what I might upgrade to as they're all just too big or too ugly for my liking.
Something between the Ray and the Arc (the two most beautiful devices I have ever owned) with the same kind of sleek design as both would be right up my street. The novelty factor of just how beautiful the Ray is hasn't worn off as I still do what mr tortures friend does and pick it up just to admire it lol.
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Sony Xperia V perhaps?
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-v/

The V isn't available in the UK
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Same here, i switch to a xperia ion recently but still find myself preferring my good old arc s. Hope the upcoming update can finally fix the bad lag on arc s wif ICS
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Man Im loving my N4 but I still miss my gorgeous white arc s, I gave it to my gf so I can use it whenever I want, but the N4 rocks
I also think that the arc s is a great phone but the n4 is better no matter how much we love the arc s, I wish sony make the arc again with 4 cores and the exactly same desing maybe name it xperia arc X... It will be great
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I too was thinking on getting N4 but for what? Do I really need a faster phone? (I'm on KXP JB and it flies) I don't even use it on full capacity so why getting a new phone? I love my Arc S and I'll keep it for at least another year!
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It arrived this morning and as promised by the seller it is in MINT condition. Not a single blemish or scratch and the white case ... omg ... it is so much nicer than the midnight blue one I had before.
So happy.
Next step is to sell my N4 before I tell my wife. I hate selling on eBay so I need to check the XDA rules on selling I guess. I don't want to make any money so perhaps I should just post something over in the N4 forum and ask people to PM me? Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing?

I think new XDA rules is not allowed to sell buddy they removed marketplace section aswell. But maybe if you do it privately with someone on here who has good reputation with many thanks itll be safe. Make sure you do PM
Anyone tried new 4.2.1 ROM feels so smooth. Not sure which is better that or beautiful ICS

Last week I went to a mobile store to sell my Arc S...But when he was ready to take it I just backed off..I couldnt sell it at all! It was really emotional situation. Hence I have decided to never my Arc S..Its the best phone ever...its like a girlfriend man...smart..sexy..kinda slow(lazy)..delicate..

Same here. Bought myself an HTC one x seeing as I've had this phone since last May, but I don't want to stop using my arc. It's pretty gubbed and has no sound and weak WiFi due to a couple of facia replacements going wrong, but I just can't put it in the drawer. My Mrs said I should recycle it but that would be sacrilege(in my eyes anyway), so now I'm tinkering with 2 phones. Possibly grounds for divorce...

sinkster said:
It's pretty gubbed...
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Gubbed? Brilliant. I have a few mates up in your neck of the woods (Cumbernauld) but have never heard that one before!

I had an iPhone 3G up until 11 months ago, decided I needed a new phone, I tend to keep phones for 3 years, so coming up to a year now, the only thing that annoys me is phones have changed quite a bit in specifications, And its easy to trick myself into needing a new phone. But I love my white Arc S, and it's capable of all day to day needs, I don't play many games because they do my head in with the touch screen, trying to make console-like games... Anyway. Running Xperia Ultimate HD 2.0.2 Rom, it's ICS based and really nice and fast, probably the best ICS Rom, and will keep the phone running smooth for ages.
Keep us updated with what you do with it. (basically use the forum
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I just loaded it up with MP3s (via a 32GB microSD card) and wow, I'd forgotten how good the audio quality was ... really excellent. The N4 is pretty good too but the volume is weak and the arc packs a lot more bass. I just tried the same tracks on both phones with my semi-decent Sennheiser headphones and the arc definitely sounds better to my middle-aged ears.
I've flashed GB for a giggle. I don't think I'll last long though and I'll probably flash the upcoming 4.1.B.1.13 release as soon as it's available.
I still haven't told my wife. ha ha ha.

rec71 said:
I just loaded it up with MP3s (via a 32GB microSD card) and wow, I'd forgotten how good the audio quality was ... really excellent. The N4 is pretty good too but the volume is weak and the arc packs a lot more bass. I just tried the same tracks on both phones with my semi-decent Sennheiser headphones and the arc definitely sounds better to my middle-aged ears.
I've flashed GB for a giggle. I don't think I'll last long though and I'll probably flash the upcoming 4.1.B.1.13 release as soon as it's available.
I still haven't told my wife. ha ha ha.
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Man this is a must-have mod for the Nexus 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025486
Try it
I can't sell my arc s too, is like selling a son
*the arc s was silver, now is white

10 reasons why you may consider upgrading to Z1

Hey guys, so I have upgraded my Xperia Z to Z1 and thought I would make a video giving you 10 reasons why you may wish to upgrade.
For most the upgrade is pointless though as the Xperia Z is still a very powerful phone and has really good specs but I thought I would point out the 10 things that are better about the Z1, so if you are in for an upgrade, you have the money definitely go for it

bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?

mysticmetal said:
bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?
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Is your back glass lifting the way mine was? If so you should be able to get your money back in full (I was able through EU law).

shem2409 said:
Hey guys, so I have upgraded my Xperia Z to Z1 and thought I would make a video giving you 10 reasons why you may wish to upgrade.
For most the upgrade is pointless though as the Xperia Z is still a very powerful phone and has really good specs but I thought I would point out the 10 things that are better about the Z1, so if you are in for an upgrade, you have the money definitely go for it
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why the z screen look better

no my backglass is just fine

mysticmetal said:
bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?
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I haven't sold it yet. I had to send it for warranty replacement of one of the flaps covering the ports first. I should get around 400$ for it though

ihaxda1 said:
why the z screen look better
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My z1 has a little bit of a yellow hue problem, which I mentioned in the video. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about it for now.

did u ask sony for valuation of your xperia z?

mysticmetal said:
did u ask sony for valuation of your xperia z?
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No, I just sent it to have it fixed before I try and sell it. They retail for around 400$ where I live though

I will say why NOT to upgrade:
1. Too big
2. Same sound on external speaker
3. Same shutter proof cover on the glass, WTF!
4. Battery consumption is the same.
5. Web browsing, video playback time is below competitors.
Now, im my case who bought S, T and Z there is no reason to upgrade and one of the main reasons is that ASF s**t at the end of 2013, the only upgrade i can see is to leave sony and buy from competitors...but i have an entire collection of Sony since J70 and i still.. prefer to eat their crap.

smardu said:
I will say why NOT to upgrade:
1. Too big
2. Same sound on external speaker
3. Same shutter proof cover on the glass, WTF!
4. Battery consumption is the same.
5. Web browsing, video playback time is below competitors.
Now, im my case who bought S, T and Z there is no reason to upgrade and one of the main reasons is that ASF s**t at the end of 2014, the only upgrade i can see is to leave sony and buy from competitors...but i have an entire collection of Sony since J70 and i still.. prefer to eat their crap.
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1. Have you held it in your hand? It is actually way more comfortable than Z
2. The speaker placement is better though
3. You can always take it off. I have spoken to a Sony Center emloyee and apparenty those are replaceable and you do not lose your warranty (but yeah you would have to confirm that one with your retailer)
4. In tests the battery life is in fact better and in normal usage I have found it to last me longer
5. Ok but for the tests they should have switched off X-Reality in some of them they didn't and that is an extra strain on CPU and GPU

shem2409 said:
2. The speaker placement is better though
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It's the matter of taste. I like Z speaker more than in Z1. Just my opinion.

My bro got the Z1 today after having a play im glad i went with the Z ultra over the Z1 (currently using a Z) the z1 is a really nice handset but for me the original z was a big leap forward for Sony where as the Z1 is just an upgrade rather than anything new.

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My bro got the Z1 today after having a play im glad i went with the Z ultra over the Z1 (currently using a Z) the z1 is a really nice handset but for me the original z was a big leap forward for Sony where as the Z1 is just an upgrade rather than anything new.
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Z Ultra is a great tablet. It is very comfortable to use, most units have a very nice display (a lot of them come with yellow hue though some worse than on my Z1). You say it is just an upgrade but with so many areas improved and redesigned it is kinda difficult to call it that.
Just an upgrade would be if they put 1 maybe 2 things from the list but here you have so many changes that it is like a completely new handset.
Of course it is a matter of personal needs and preference whether an upgrade is right for you at this moment but without a doubt it is a great piece of equipment which shows that Sony can innovate and is moving forward ahead of its competitors.

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Z Ultra is a great tablet. It is very comfortable to use, most units have a very nice display (a lot of them come with yellow hue though some worse than on my Z1). You say it is just an upgrade but with so many areas improved and redesigned it is kinda difficult to call it that.
Just an upgrade would be if they put 1 maybe 2 things from the list but here you have so many changes that it is like a completely new handset.
Of course it is a matter of personal needs and preference whether an upgrade is right for you at this moment but without a doubt it is a great piece of equipment which shows that Sony can innovate and is moving forward ahead of its competitors.
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Yeah i agree its all dependent on personal taste my bro loves it coming from an S4 he is really happy (not that he didnt love his S4)
he just said the z1 felt like premium handset and was extremely solid.
Only reason i ordered the Ultra was i like to be different and nobody i know is brave enough to own a handset of that size so i know ill be unique.

shem2409 said:
1. Have you held it in your hand? It is actually way more comfortable than Z
2. The speaker placement is better though
3. You can always take it off. I have spoken to a Sony Center emloyee and apparenty those are replaceable and you do not lose your warranty (but yeah you would have to confirm that one with your retailer)
4. In tests the battery life is in fact better and in normal usage I have found it to last me longer
5. Ok but for the tests they should have switched off X-Reality in some of them they didn't and that is an extra strain on CPU and GPU
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Seriously the video playback time and web browsing time is not good. Video playback is like only 5 hours plus? Samsung's s3 has got like 9 hour plus and note 3 if I'm not wrong is around 11-14hours I think. Web browsing and video playback is two of the main things we do on a smartphone isn't it?
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when XPERIA Z2 comes out Z1 will be just the same old forgotten toy like Z

One of my annoyances.. uhh... Two are
01. The flash is extremely weak! I've taken pictures at night side by side with another much lower end phone and my pics came out way darker. In daylight its fine.
02. The WiFi range isn't too far
Are these two points improved on in the Z1 or Ultra?
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I think the s4 pro is enough; don't need to upgrade to s800, it seems like the old PCs processors war...

It seems the WiFi in Z1 has also a poor signal as the Z,one of the reasons may not get this phone if the issue is not fixed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451640
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Getting the Xperia Z

Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.

Ben Ling said:
Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.
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It's a solid phone, but the 4.3 update brought serious bugs, the cam and battery time is greatly affected by those bugs. Let's hope sony fixes them.
Also it won't get past android 4.4.
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It is a good phone. there are some issues with the back plate coming unglued (if you would read the forum instead of asking for the info to be served on a silver plate you'd know ).
the 4.3 update is fast and fluid, and i have found no bug except for "excessive delay, took vsync XX ms", which I have not read about on this forum, and a symmetry bug when taking screenshots.
battery life is ok, I can play ingress for ~3.5 hours (3g, GPS, screen on, rendering tons of 3D graphics)
it will hopefully be supported until 2015 (the Xperia T also got a 4.3 update...)

It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom

Hipotalamus said:
It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom
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well i have just bought it...

Ben Ling said:
well i have just bought it...
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Like it?

doministry said:
Like it?
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Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...

Ben Ling said:
Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...
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Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.

doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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I bought it at RM1,230...AP Set (means not original warranty of Sony)
The Z1 only have Ori,costs RM1,990

doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?

Ben Ling said:
do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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There's no exploit to root 4.3 currently, so the only way to root if you're already on 4.3 is to unlock your bootloader and flash a kernel with a custom recovery.
Either that or downgrade to 4.2.2, root and flash a prerooted 4.3 rom.
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Ben Ling said:
do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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Nope. I didn't do it.

Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks

emailpeter said:
Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks
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Hi,I stay in Malaysia and i bought from a handphone shop at RM1,230 for not original Sony warranty and white color from here http://www.mudah.my/li?ca=8_s&id=88141

a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying

spazzy1912 said:
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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spazzy1912 said:
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.

doministry said:
I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.
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kingvortex said:
- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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+1 to that
The only thing that isn't that good on the screen are the black levels and viewing angles.
I honestly cant see a big difference to my n5 screen except these.
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People think the screen is washed out because they're usually comparing it to a Samsung device that the colours are hugely over saturated on.
Like I said, I think the Z screen actually more faithfully reproduces colours rather than trying to make them pop out of the screen.
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Plus on videos and photos Bravia kicks in, giving amazing contrast.
On UI it's more settle so it doesn't kill the eyes.

It's time to say goodbye my friends! :(

After all thease months, after all good and bad moments it's time to say goodbye and move on to my next device.
I bought LG G3 couple of weeks ago and today I'm selling my Xperia Z. It's so hard to move on because Xperia Z reminds me on true legend, Xperia X10i. It's such a great device to have. In fact , after using G3 for couple of weeks I'm so disappointed with this device (laggy software, not so great build quality) so I'll probably sell it and buy a real device, Xperia device (Z2 or Z3).
I'm gonna miss this forum so much, I'm gonna miss all You guys. Good luck and take care! :good:

So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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LG G3 has beautiful display, one of the best out there, but 1440 x 2560 res is unnecessary because you can't see the difference between fullHD and this with naked eye. Camera is ok but not breathtaking (I think that LG use Sony 13 mpx module), Lollipop ROM is laggy, signal strength is lower than on other devices. Battery life is ok but not great, double tap to lock/unlock function is fantastic. If you look for development support I can't recommend you this phone, at least for now. On the other side I tested Xperia Z3 last week. Fantastic device, great looking, screen is beautiful, stock rom is fast and smooth, build quality is excellent. Battery life is insane, nice speakers, and camera is fantastic. I'm so in love with that phone man, I hope that Z3 is my next phone. And thanks for nice words.

I had a real bad experience with an LG device. The Optimus 2X was released with a lot of publicity as the first dual core Android phone and then abandoned with buggy software and only 2 updates in 2 years. I promised myself never to buy from them again, but the G3 was tempting me. Hearing your thoughts has put me off again!
So, Z3 or N6 it is probably.
Hope to see you around on the forums if I get a Z3.
Cheers.
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Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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wawyed said:
Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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Yeah, you never knew if the thing would be unresponsive when you picked it up to use it. The stock rom was woeful as well. The only reason I didn't trash it was because of the great developer support and custom roms.
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kingvortex said:
So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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kingvortex said:
I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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MWC isn't THAT far away, and if the Z4 is announced then expect a Z3 price drop. The upgrades for the Z4 won't be game changers - an 810 with a better GPU, a slightly nicer display that may well be QHD, improvements to the camera I expect. With the amount of time people use their phones nowadays, battery life simply must improve. And with rumours that the actual Sony imaging department will handle the image processing, maybe the Z4 will get a stand-out camera. I really hope the RAW API's will be implemented by Sony. I'm looking at an upgrade too, maybe a Oneplus Two, or if they make a Nexus 5 2015 edition I'd bite. The Xperia Z was my first smartphone and I'd like to try other android devices.

Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
Beans

bbeanss said:
Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
Beans
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Is that the one with the Intel processor? Yikes, as far as I know, developer support on those devices is nowhere near the level of your standard Snapdragon phones. Exynos processors in Samsung's are very common and even those are shunnes., with developers working on Snapdragons instead.

Quad HD sounds nice on paper but it doesn't bring any visual differences that your eyes can detect. Except the low battery indicator flashing more frequently?
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I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..

tOrNadO™ said:
I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..
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I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.

neoxx3m said:
I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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Hi
What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?

SXZdabbler said:
Hi
What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?
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You just have to sign in on the other device. I have a couple of phones and a tablet on the same Google account and can use paid apps on all of them with no issues.
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tOrNadO™ said:
I myself am planning to buy a Z2 too, very soon.. Hope to meet u thr..
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I hope so!

neoxx3m said:
I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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Count me too.. For Z2. Soon..

We don't really need a new thread for everyone who leaves to another device. If you already have a thread you can post it there, but a new thread isn't needed.
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