OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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Yes we need a new kernel , i think we need an improved turbo kernel and xperia play will be fine!, Just fix bugs in GB and ICS in Turbo + maby make auto detection of multiboot or make them multiboot automatically and etc... and lots of performance tweaks and then The Xperia Play will be perfect!
Pizza_Dox said:
Yes we need a new kernel , i think we need an improved turbo kernel and xperia play will be fine!, Just fix bugs in GB and ICS in Turbo + maby make auto detection of multiboot or make them multiboot automatically and etc... and lots of performance tweaks and then The Xperia Play will be perfect!
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Yes that would be great but the problem is finding someone that knows how to do it or can help an inexperienced person do it. I would rather add multi boot to lupus v13 because for some reason its the only kernel that works on my phone. Whatever wedgess changed between v8 and 9 I need to know so I can do the same for other kernels because whatever it is its the reason it works for me. The problem is the change log is too large for me to figure out
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I would become a dev for the play if I had another device as my daily driver but all I got is the play and I don't want to have to constantly reset and ftf if I screw up...but I promise when I get a new device (hoping on a galaxy nexus) I can start deving and building for our beloved play
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I would become a dev for the play if I had another device as my daily driver but all I got is the play and I don't want to have to constantly reset and ftf if I screw up...but I promise when I get a new device (hoping on a galaxy nexus) I can start deving and building for our beloved play
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That would be awesome. Do you know how to do that kind of stuff
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If you need an new kernel, HERE IM! Nah, just kidding. Also, i agree, DooM doesnt support his kernel much, lupus gets finally stable, and another update brokes it, we definitely need someone good at it..
Waiting will be worth the weight.
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OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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i think this can help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814977
raminta said:
i think this can help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814977
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Thanks but is there a tutorial for doing it on windows because I don't have linux
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Nope. But you can install it on Virtualbox.
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Nope. But you can install it on Virtualbox.
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Bakisha gave me a link to one with instructions but thanks though
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Also, no offense, but waking up one day, and think, im gonna make an kernel.. Even tho there are many tutorials, its not that easy. Seriously
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Also, no offense, but waking up one day, and think, im gonna make an kernel.. Even tho there are many tutorials, its not that easy. Seriously
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I know I don't really expect any results I'm just going to mess around with it and see what I can do. Most likely itll fail but I won't learn if I don't try
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I know I don't really expect any results I'm just going to mess around with it and see what I can do. Most likely itll fail but I won't learn if I don't try
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Good luck!
From the look of some posts on this thread, if I were Wedgess or Doom I would take some offence to the way people are reacting here...
For starters, Doom hasn't given up on the play and there are multiple people including him who are trying to port the 3.6 (I think) Kernel to the play which will open many doors in to performance and other additions to our device.
@wedgess has made fantastic Kernels for our device with every version of Android available to us - I fail to see why a new Kernel would be required? Especially when development is underway to port the new Kernel to our devices.
@DooMLoRD has also been working on our device for years, not to mention all the other devices he works with. He is also the reason most of the other Kernel developers have been able to make their Kernels for the Play as most of their work is based on Doom's. You should all cut him some slack! He said he would be working on porting the new Kernel, and I have no reason to believe he wont be able to achieve this. People just need to be more patient, things like these take time.
On another note, it's great that you want to try your hand at Kernel Development abdel12345 - I personally have only done minor tweaks myself. If you manage to get into it a fair bit, perhaps you'll be able to help Doom and the others with porting the new Kernel. There's a thread on it somewhere in the development section - unfortunately at the moment I don't think they are able to get it to compile though.
I'm sorry I didn't mean any. Offence to anyone I was just wondering if there was anyone else because I know wedgess it'd very busy and doom as well since they both work on lots of other devices. I just wanted to. Try and see if anyone else would be able to help a little or give it a shot. Again I'm sorry u didn't mean to offend anyone
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abdel12345 said:
OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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I saw wedges on the S3 forum recently (he owns one as well) , I think he might have been doing some AOSP building of [email protected]
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I'm sorry I didn't mean any. Offence to anyone I was just wondering if there was anyone else because I know wedgess it'd very busy and doom as well since they both work on lots of other devices. I just wanted to. Try and see if anyone else would be able to help a little or give it a shot. Again I'm sorry u didn't mean to offend anyone
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My post wasn't directed at you - No worries.
My aim wasn't to seem 'aggressive', but more to make people aware of the current situation which is that things are in place and work is being done. It'll just take time before we get any positive results.
Personally, I've come to terms with the fact that this device is now miles past its expiration date so I'm not holding out for any sort of improvement no matter what the outcome.
@spizzy: no, the mogami board devs are porting the 3.4 kernel, for now only the smultron is at a really good point (the 3.0.8 kernel also is stable for every mogami device and the anzu, only for play/phoenix we haven't so much work done)
@all: the kernel development guys isn't dead, is only rally slow, cause doom and FXP has a LOT of device, and wedgess as he already said is working on the s3's pac; also, it is completaly useless to wake up a day and think "oh, why we don't open a new thread to see if there is someone that now how to develop a kernel?", think a moment, if someone that know a lot of kernel development and have the time to work on it (and also the intenctions to work on it), why he hasn't already started to do something (at least a development thread)?
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@spizzy: no, the mogami board devs are porting the 3.4 kernel, for now only the smultron is at a really good point (the 3.0.8 kernel also is stable for every mogami device and the anzu, only for play/phoenix we haven't so much work done)
@all: the kernel development guys isn't dead, is only rally slow, cause doom and FXP has a LOT of device, and wedgess as he already said is working on the s3's pac; also, it is completaly useless to wake up a day and think "oh, why we don't open a new thread to see if there is someone that now how to develop a kernel?", think a moment, if someone that know a lot of kernel development and have the time to work on it (and also the intenctions to work on it), why he hasn't already started to do something (at least a development thread)?
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I wasn't looking for someone who was a pro at making kernels. I was looking for people with little experience that would like to attempt messing with making/editing a kernel just to make some simple changes so that when I attempt it there will be others who can discuss it. No need for sarcastic comments but I guess the title is misleading sorry.
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From the look of some posts on this thread, if I were Wedgess or Doom I would take some offence to the way people are reacting here...
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Nobody has said anything offensive towards the devs who have worked on the PLAY in the past. This was a friendly conversation about the OP possibly learning to tweak kernels. You are blowing things way out of proportion...for whatever reason.
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People just need to be more patient, things like these take time.
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We don't really have time. Every new game that is released, we are holding our breath hoping that it will run on our phones. Tweaks we have made in the past have gotten us a long way, but now we are running up against a brick wall, and we need help soon.
If someone want's to make a thread about taking action and learning to tweak the kernel on our phones, it would be great if you didn't post in it being negative. You're not helping any of us by doing that.
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OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now.
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I've finished my introductory course of Python(not relevant, I know), and am 2 weeks into my schooling for that, through a private instructor at the company I work for. What I find exciting though is that my instructor speaks openly about the similarities between dalvik and java, and the way kernels process and execute bytecode. I'm on my way to understanding how it all works, but I have to stay focused on what my employer want's me to learn, for now
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Even though the news started as X8 bootloader unlocked, right now there is no one for us making a new kernal.....
For x10 mini they have already one kernal and for x10 mini pro work is in progress....
Yeah, just wait...
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How come they already have kernelsfor x10 mini? if this takes months
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It takes shortly if the dev just improves the kernel (2.6.29 one)
But it takes long if they gonna make a all new kernel.
We just have to wait. Consider this as a good news. This is way better that we are expecting into something good rather than nothing at all. Right sandy
Our patience will achieve more than our force.
Allow being hostile at every given oppertunity that just destroys the purpose of a community
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Our patience will achieve more than our force.
Allow being hostile at every given oppertunity that just destroys the purpose of a community
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Yeah everyone, just wait patiently. Devs take such a long time because they are making a good new kernel .
by the way who is working on a kernel?
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by the way who is working on a kernel?
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maybe some great devs already workin on it or not
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We just have to wait. Consider this as a good news. This is way better that we are expecting into something good rather than nothing at all. Right sandy
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Ya!!! Hope We will also have better kernels soon!!!!
oh dear. Better go play with your friends then opening useless threads.
zvorkapic.os said:
oh dear. Better go play with your friends then opening useless threads.
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This is general section lol!!!!
Just wanted to know what you guys think on this or if someone know that a kernel is already work in progress by someone....thats why I started this thread....I havent spammed any dev thread or something...I hope so.....
Anyway if I am wrong some mod can del this thread...and in that case sorry in adv....
Take care guys!!!!
Kernel development doesnt take months.my friend can compile it for two or three days.you just have to know C++ good.
Well, it can be compiled in 15 minutes, plus 10 seconds more to pack it (if you already have ramdisk).
But the problem is that NAND initialization is broken in SE's kernel source.
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Well, it can be compiled in 15 minutes, plus 10 seconds more to pack it (if you already have ramdisk).
But the problem is that NAND initialization is broken in SE's kernel source.
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What about x10 minis.
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Well, it can be compiled in 15 minutes, plus 10 seconds more to pack it (if you already have ramdisk).
But the problem is that NAND initialization is broken in SE's kernel source.
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Wouldn't it be possible to simply use a newer kernel from a non-SE phone which has roughly the same hardware components as X8?
Btw Blagus, I sent you a PM. Please respond.
Both Mini and Mini Pro already have custom kernel, very soon it will come to X8.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253787
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256095
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254202
I think this is very good i dont mind waiting for new kernel we have many good roms to use till then
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FreeXperia team is working on a kernel.
Link: https://github.com/freexperia/semc-kernel-msm7x27
It's the SEMC MSM7227 devices kernel with some goodies added .
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Kernel development doesnt take months.my friend can compile it for two or three days.you just have to know C++ good.
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That's need a month even a year to develop for me, I don't know C++
For now, we can just wait for our developers to compile them.
Guys as you know doomlord is the only kernel dev we have, and he does a great job even though he does not have an xperia play!
Without the device it makes debuggin kernels hard, most of the time he has to do it remotely using teamviewer. Doom is working on nearly 10 diffrent kernels for diffrent devices, This is very time consuming and i feel soon he might stop play kernel development as he is already thinking about stopping support for the x10 mini/pro as he does not have a device.
Doom said recently:
DooMLoRD said:
dont worry when i get time i will upload a lower clocked version..
well atleast it works on ARC
yes thats true..
i only have ARC...
BTW... i dont know how many of u will be willing for this but i came across an awesome offer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298796
basically unlocked Xperia Play is for 280USD
http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-unlocked-209428/
in India (where i live) Xperia Play is for 23K to 25K INR [ref: http://bit.ly/nWzI3g ] which is almost 450USD to 500USD...
if u guys are interested and willing u can contribute to donate a device to me... i only have ARC so i can focus only on that device currently... as of now, i will try my best to keep Xperia Play kernel updated (atleast for stock firmware)... since Xperia Play uses a different board (zeus) which is totally diff from the other xperia 2011 phones (they use mogami board) it becomes tricky to work with the device (atleast kernel wise for me since i dont have a testing device in hand)... thats one of the reasons why USB-OTG is not fully working on Xperia Play...
anyways if u guys want more support from me (may be work on CM7 kernel for Xperia Play) then things can move faster if i have device in hand
my friend will be coming from US in few weeks time (may be a month or two) [ and he is getting my new HTC Flyer along ]...
even if this doesnt work out no problems
but i wanted to know what does the Xperia Play community think abt this..
do let me know...
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280 usd is not alot for us to raise to give doom some incentive to continue play support!
I will donate $20 now and a bit more later on if need be, doom has said if he had a play he will not only work on kernels but even more development projects. We all know doom could easly bring us the first ICS port, and also check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278318. Doom said if he has a play he will try and port his x10 boot manager to the play, and even try and get us dual booting roms
So if you guys are intrested shall we get a donation thread started?
What about one of those o2 phones selling for fifteen tenners? probably buying it, sending it to him and unlocking the phone will be cheaper.
I think it's a great idea @AndroHero.
One thing that i would like to know is do our jack stick support TV out or not. If it does and it could be fixed to work with a little bit of development and Doomlord could do it/ think he could I will for sure donate some money to this project
I might do it anyway
Regards Dousan...
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What about one of those o2 phones selling for fifteen tenners? probably buying it, sending it to him and unlocking the phone will be cheaper.
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I told doomlord about that, he said 280usd is cheaper, it's also sim free so it can be easly unlocked for development
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I think it's a great idea @AndroHero.
One thing that i would like to know is do our jack stick support TV out or not. If it does and it could be fixed to work with a little bit of development and Doomlord could do it/ think he could I will for sure donate some money to this project
I might do it anyway
Regards Dousan...
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Cool i'm going to ask him about AV out via the 3.5mm all we need is 28 people to donate $10 .... 26 now i have offered to donate $20
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I will donate $20 now and a bit more later on if need be, doom has said if he had a play he will not only work on kernels but even more development projects. We all know doom could easly bring us the first ICS port, and also check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278318. Doom said if he has a play he will try and port his x10 boot manager to the play, and even try and get us dual booting roms
So if you guys are intrested shall we get a donation thread started?
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hi thanks for this... but i want to correct u on a few things...
as of now i only work on kernels... the bootmanager might work but at this point since we cant flash kernels thru recovery (for xperia 2011 devices) it might not be really useful... as for dualboot, its possible as long as the the kernel requirements are same... only changes in ramdisk can be handled but if the "dual booted" rom requires another kernel then its a issue... also i dont know much abt ROM related work but can hopefully get some help from others
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What about one of those o2 phones selling for fifteen tenners? probably buying it, sending it to him and unlocking the phone will be cheaper.
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i have absolutely no problems as long as i can flash kernels using fastboot and have radio (gsm/wcdma) working
also i hope its a R800i and not a R800x
Dousan said:
I think it's a great idea @AndroHero.
One thing that i would like to know is do our jack stick support TV out or not. If it does and it could be fixed to work with a little bit of development and Doomlord could do it/ think he could I will for sure donate some money to this project
I might do it anyway
Regards Dousan...
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hi i dont know abt that part... some aspects are hardware related... the pins/pcb should support it
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hi thanks for this... but i want to correct u on a few things...
as of now i only work on kernels... the bootmanager might work but at this point since we cant flash kernels thru recovery (for xperia 2011 devices) it might not be really useful... as for dualboot, its possible as long as the the kernel requirements are same... only changes in ramdisk can be handled but if the "dual booted" rom requires another kernel then its a issue... also i dont know much abt ROM related work but can hopefully get some help from others
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Sorry doom just trying to drum up some support
im in favor of getting a donation thread started and i will try and donate what i can
Let Doomlord himself start it. It's the easiest way, I think.
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Let Doomlord himself start it. It's the easiest way, I think.
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+1 i'm all for that
I'd donate about 5/10 pound, as I love the work he's done for our plays, I'd donate more but not working at mo,
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hey guys i have opened a thread:
Consideration for donating a Xperia Play to me (DooMLoRD) to continue development
if interested please go thru it
regards,
DooMLoRD
Hi all,
Personally I still love my G1. It is the 1st Android phone so historically something that is interesting on its own.
I assume most of the G1 owners on this forum are having the same geekish interests as me and I was wondering what you are doing with the device that you concider 'cool' and can impress fellow geeks
Some things I think are impressive:
1. Having a rooted device with a custom very stable and fast Gingerbread firmware (ezgingerbread)
2. The droid2600 and Frodo C64 emulators that run great on the G1 with its keyboard.
3. Haven't done this myself yet, but seeing videos of debian run on the G1 was pretty impressive.
4. Eventhough it is probably not ready for daily use but having ICS on the G1 is amazing.
My G1 is running debian for a while now. But it mostly sits in drawer now, I just bring myself to sell it. No matter how much my wife nags at me.
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My G1 is running debian for a while now. But it mostly sits in drawer now, I just bring myself to sell it. No matter how much my wife nags at me.
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How well does it run? I guess you can't use it as a phone if you started debian?
I am using Frayo
And I use it mainly for forums and IRC and stuff
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I am using Frayo
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Running a customized rom you created yourself does belong in the 'wish I could say that' category.
Compiling programs from source does seem to be possible for the lesser educated with the scriptset smitna has created. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444792
Not as cool as creating your own rom, but you have to start somewhere
I been using it mainly to try roms and stuff,
but every time a friend lost or have no phone, until they get a proper.
I give it to them to use it
and to try to convert them to android
so I use it for educational porposes
Im using frayo too (thanks )
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Running a customized rom you created yourself does belong in the 'wish I could say that' category.
Compiling programs from source does seem to be possible for the lesser educated with the scriptset smitna has created. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444792
Not as cool as creating your own rom, but you have to start somewhere
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What do you mean?
I am really honestly using Frayo....
Froyobylaszlo is /the/ best G1 ROM and I use my mod for the (few) features it adds
Did I say I used that script?
Well...no, I didn't
And I can compile a ROM on my own from source thank you very much.
I just don't really see the need anymore since froyobylaszlo is as good as it gets
And instead of working my way up from aosp, learning along the way since I don't know a lot, I decided to just mod in features I like
And no I didn't use some scripts or rom kitchen
I tried using an apk compiler and a theme kitchen thing to fix certain problems, but then I decided against it...
Also, as of now I'm stopping working on my ROM and MOD and am gonna go for some pure PC development to work on my skills
I'm not too sure what you were trying to say but that's my response
If I misunderstood you, sorry
Edit: I think I did....now I'm debating wheter I should delete the above....
Sorry
Just ignore it all...I though you were saying that I shouldn't advertise here (I'm not btw I'm actually using it to post even)
And I thought you said I used that script and didn't do anything
Well, if you want to jumpstart into rom development with modding,, just open up the rom with winrar/7zip and start looking around
And at the google source website you can find how to compile a rom
The second option may require some programming skills
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Well, if you want to jumpstart into rom development with modding,, just open up the rom with winrar/7zip and start looking around
And at the google source website you can find how to compile a rom
The second option may require some programming skills
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Nice ideas. Might do some research, thx!
Was indeed giving you a compliment for your rom modding, maybe my indirect approach was not clear enough (I am not a native English speaker... that probably doesn't help as well)
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Nice ideas. Might do some research, thx!
Was indeed giving you a compliment for your rom modding, maybe my indirect approach was not clear enough (I am not a native English speaker... that probably doesn't help as well)
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Oh ok thanks
Sorry bout that...http://forums.androidcentral.com/hacking/6037-general-rom-faq.html
This is very useful
Go to "building a rom"
Idk if the link works, its been strange for me, so just scroll down to it
Whenever you edit a rom, you have to sign it...
That link has the files and directions
Also,
I've just had fun experimenting with my G1. I didn't root it myself, but I have learned a lot since I got it. I ran through about 10 or 15 different roms until I found one that I like personally (Ginger yoshi) and customized it the way I wanted. I think the coolest thing that I did on it running a SNES emulator (although I only did it once because of ridiculous lag). I started toying around with DOS box but that didn't go anywhere. I wasn't able to do much with it because it is my primary phone and it got extremely annoying to have to fix it every time I messed something up.
Anyway, it was tons of fun... then it broke :'( And now I'm getting my friend to give me his for free! and the fun will continue.
Yes Should I make One for Us Folks for Gaming Il make One for .62/69 I cant find a .42 download If you have One Il make One for Locked Bootloaders .
Basically Il make a rom On basis of this (Based on Sony Framework)
*Supercharged
*Launcher Locked In memory
*Turbo 3G
*Baseband -36
*KAK (Kickasskernalizer)
*Bloatware Removed all
*Google Apps (Market etc)
*Xperia Launcher & PS Pocket
*No-Frils CPU pre-Installed
*OI file manger Pre-Installed
*Remove all Crapware
*Try to stop market Downloading the Crapware Again
Ideas Comment Below:
Ideas for more feautures Commet below please
Name Of rom ? I thought GamerBread
Wow this sounds awesome I like the sound of it. if no frills comes preinstalled then it must support overcocking right? Yeah, definately make it compatible with Doomkernel and try and overclock the gpu. Maybe you could incorporate the playstation buttons as a way of properly controling it, like the xmb. Maybe just "GameBread" for the name. Shame you can't make it for .42 (thats me lol) would have been so cool. maybe it could come preinstalled with a bunch of emulators (Like gba and stuff like that)
If it's bootloader-locked, there's no overclock available. Same goes for anything related to the kernel: bootloader-locked devices can't have modifications done to the kernel.
But They Can Change ther Governer,
Plus I'l make it Smooth No choppy Apps
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Wow this sounds awesome I like the sound of it. if no frills comes preinstalled then it must support overcocking right? Yeah, definately make it compatible with Doomkernel and try and overclock the gpu. Maybe you could incorporate the playstation buttons as a way of properly controling it, like the xmb. Maybe just "GameBread" for the name. Shame you can't make it for .42 (thats me lol) would have been so cool. maybe it could come preinstalled with a bunch of emulators (Like gba and stuff like that)
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Yes Il Find a .42 Download But Im going to Have to See about those EMU's are they Free?
Links anyone for Gamboid.
A Gaming ROM would be nice, but I don't see the point of making a ROM with just that... I already did all you listed in my Play and the performance is pretty much the same.
That does sound pretty cool. I'm not sure I understand the advantages/disadvantages of different basebands though and .69 vs. .64 vs. .42 etc., but it sounds like you're trying to optimize for the best Gingerbread base to support a smooth running system for gaming and all the standard stuff, which is cool.
Previously, on my Nexus One, I was willing to roll with CyanogenMod and non-stock customizations and all that, but now on my Xperia Play, gaming is a big factor as well - and from what I've seen, non-stock Roms like CyanogenMod lose a bit here - the Spider Man game from Gameloft failed to launch last time I was running CyanogenMod, so I've gone stock-based. I've also heard game compatibility isn't all there yet for ICS and there is still the debate whether an optimized and reliable Gingerbread system is better for a user than a new ICS rom that may not be as reliable/optimized yet.
So I think it may be a good idea, and I do like the GamerBread name!
~Troop
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Xperia4life said:
Yes Il Find a .42 Download But Im going to Have to See about those EMU's are they Free?
Links anyone for Gamboid.
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Someone recently made an Emulator guide it looks like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326087
~Troop
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But They Can Change ther Governer,
Plus I'l make it Smooth No choppy Apps
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Stock governers are pretty basic, Performance, powersave (useless) and ondemand.
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Yes Il Find a .42 Download But Im going to Have to See about those EMU's are they Free?
Links anyone for Gamboid.
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I always used to use tigergba, ill try and find the apk's otherwise, yeah follow that guys post above for the guide
Trooper_Max said:
That does sound pretty cool. I'm not sure I understand the advantages/disadvantages of different basebands though and .69 vs. .64 vs. .42 etc., but it sounds like you're trying to optimize for the best Gingerbread base to support a smooth running system for gaming and all the standard stuff, which is cool.
Previously, on my Nexus One, I was willing to roll with CyanogenMod and non-stock customizations and all that, but now on my Xperia Play, gaming is a big factor as well - and from what I've seen, non-stock Roms like CyanogenMod lose a bit here - the Spider Man game from Gameloft failed to launch last time I was running CyanogenMod, so I've gone stock-based. I've also heard game compatibility isn't all there yet for ICS and there is still the debate whether an optimized and reliable Gingerbread system is better for a user than a new ICS rom that may not be as reliable/optimized yet.
So I think it may be a good idea, and I do like the GamerBread name!
~Troop
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Someone recently made an Emulator guide it looks like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326087
~Troop
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Yeah, but I think this would be the rom Ill be looking out for
P.S about the overclocking, definately recomend for an unlocked bootloader, or I maybe taking the piss here, but make one for locked and one for unlocked with overclocking capabilities lol
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I always used to use tigergba, ill try and find the apk's otherwise, yeah follow that guys post above for the guide
Yeah, but I think this would be the rom Ill be looking out for
P.S about the overclocking, definately recomend for an unlocked bootloader, or I maybe taking the piss here, but make one for locked and one for unlocked with overclocking capabilities lol
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Overclocking for locked bootloader is possible, but would take work, as locked bootloaders can not flash custom kernel, someone would have to compile overclock module for stock kernel.
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Yes! because I plan on picking up the Galaxy Nexus and using my Xperia Play as my mini portable console.
Sure. I'll use it when you learn proper grammer.
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savage24x said:
Sure. I'll use it when you learn proper grammer.
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This is an international forum, English is not the first language of many users here. That last comment was just racism in disguise. I hope the OP reports you
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Its good. I think you should add emulators in rom. If people gets emulators preinstalled its gonna be awesome !
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Sure. I'll use it when you learn proper grammer.
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Pretty sure it's "grammar".
Jordanooo said:
Pretty sure it's "grammar".
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It is.
Any form Of Abuse on this Site/forum whatever is Equaled to a Ban Permantly not only are you taking the Micky' of people your Correcting them in Languages they are learning
Im sure if you Learnt there Language you Would make a Mistake.
Treat others How you would like to be Treated.
savage24x said:
Sure. I'll use it when you learn proper grammer.
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Get The F**K off this Forum Insulting me I'm Not from The US or UK im from India,
As well as Knowing Multiple Languages:
Punjabi
Hindi
French
English.
So GTFO out of this Forum Dont Post Until you learn Respect.
What would turbo 3g do for us that are on Verizon? I don't know much about this technology but if it will help then I'm happy, even if it is only a GSM thing.
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Is Gb better than ICS about gaming ?
DooMLoRD said:
Ok so a very interesting thing has happened...
I am giving back two of the phones donated to me:
Xperia Play
Xperia S
now two of my old friends @Achotjan (know him from the X10 days) & @nickholtus (know him from the Arc/Play days) are both interested in these devices...
both are very good devs and have worked on challenging projects in the past and still continue to support devices...
now here is the best part.. both are happy and willing to work on these devices have agreed to swap the devices once they are done with their projects!
thats means with the single device you guys donated to me you will now have 3 devs working on it (initially I worked on them and now these two will take it over from here)...
i just want one promise from you guys @Achotjan & @nickholtus) that both of you will continue to develop for these devices and exchange them mutually!
i personally think this is a really good thing...
if anyone has any objection do let me know.. if everyone is cool with it, i will make arrangements to ship the device to these devs...
i really hope this will boost development for these devices
regards,
DooMLoRD
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DooMLoRD said:
firstly happy new year!!!
in continuation of the above, I have just sent the devices (Xperia S & Play) to the devs via DHL... @nickholtus will be receiving both devices for now and he will send the Xperia S to @Achotjan at the earliest!
I just wanted to make somethings clear... I am not greedy... I don't do this (android development) for the donations... I do it cause I love these phones and want to make sure that people get good stuff... If I was free I could have developed for ALL of these device, but because of personal commitments I cannot...
I really hope that you guys get the best development going and this device forum is again flourishing with development activity...
will keep you posted on when the device reaches @nickholtus
regards,
DooMLoRD
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DooMLoRD said:
great!
now that you guys have received the phones I hope you will continue development for these devices!
finally I am closing this thread...
take care guys and see you around!
warm regards,
Rahul (a.k.a. DooMLoRD)
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Hey guys I know that I havent been around much, been busy with **** loads of stuff..
I had already stopped development on the Play after some issues with some devs here...
anyways, i was recently approached by @nickholtus asking me if i can give my Xperia Play to him for development as he wanted to work on it but didnt have working device...
since the community donated this device to me, I am willing to return it back to the community!
so if you guys can find a willing trusted developer who will work on this device let me know and I will arrange for the device to be sent to him/her..
@nickholtus has already shown interest for the Play.. anyone else you guys considering?
do let me know what you guys think!
i will miss my Xperia Play
regards,
DooMLoRD
Hi,
I am very interested yes, as i am already working On the 3.4 kernel, but without a play it is very hard.
So if you guys agree...
I am interested in it,between i don't have any android right now so would be good to start on something new.
I have two Plays, but I would be willing to give out my Verizon one if a dev is going to work on anything 3.4 kernel or 4.2 - 4.4 related for it, even though it'll be a long shot. It's not tip top shape with older battery, but fully functional.
I simply have been neglicting my Plays since I haven't have time to game much lately.
wow.. that's nice to hear from all you guys.. 2 Xplays for Donation Available.. Al the Devs in the house.. Back to work guys...
before anyone (including me) can make any chance of getting this device, the comminity needs to agree.
as many of you know, I am already working on the 3.4 kernel, and it would be a lot better if i had the device. So it would be great if you guys agree with it
I agree with these devs
1- @nobodyAtall: if he is still intrested in developing 3.4 kernel with zeus board
2- @nickholtus: a great dev from the first days of xperia play. You made first cm10 for us and we cant forget you
3- @Achotjan: as i know he needs a xperia 2011 device but im not sure he is intrested in developing 3.4 kernel too
4- im sure this person wont develope anything for xperia play anymore but i think doomlord himself is the best person but sadly he leaved us because of someone that stoled his sources and ...
+1 for nickholtus, was amazing at old times
Nickholtus!
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+1 for nickholtus
with my respect to the other developers.
My vote goes to to nickholtus
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+1 for nickholtus, he is a great developer.
Thanks DooMLoRD for not forgiving us
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hi, first of all nice to see you again my old friend, i sended a message via google talk , and yes i am interested
and as mentioned on msg i has sent, after fixing hardware releated thinks on kernel and rom (camera gamepad etc...) will send it back too you or if you will permit to another dev who will need it
cheers
Achotjan
@nickholtus as i has say to DoomLord i am interested too, however if the problem you want to resolve is importent you could take it, and we could colaborate as i need to work on play for working 3.4 kernel 4.4 rom and my SDE (curent 4.1.2) then 4.4 and play need somme of work on camera gamepad and buttons are not being working without extra hacks
or same think if you could wait i can take it and after fixing atleast SDE compatibility for play , send it to you, any of this two solutions arre ok for me, but i am insisting on working together on kernel and camera thinks to fix the more quicly and better
cheers
Achotjan
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@nickholtus as i has say to DoomLord i am interested too, however if the problem you want to resolve is importent you could take it, and we could colaborate as i need to work on play for working 3.4 kernel 4.4 rom and my SDE (curent 4.1.2) then 4.4 and play need somme of work on camera gamepad and buttons are not being working without extra hacks
or same think if you could wait i can take it and after fixing atleast SDE compatibility for play , send it to you, any of this two solutions arre ok for me, but i am insisting on working together on kernel and camera thinks to fix the more quicly and better
cheers
Achotjan
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Hi,
I would love to work together with you.
I don't know what you prefer, but I miss the play if you and the community are OK with it I prefer to get the play that we can work together, but if you and the community want you to get the play, its good.
I think we will have a good team in the future
Nick
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Hi,
I would love to work together with you.
I don't know what you prefer, but I miss the play if you and the community are OK with it I prefer to get the play that we can work together, but if you and the community want you to get the play, its good.
I think we will have a good team in the future
Nick
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well i just seen that you are interested by xperia S also, i dont need xperia S for developping so i sugest that you take the S and work on while i will fix hardware releatd thinks on play than i can send you the play back if you need, i will work on 2011 line and they have many thinks in commun but if you want to work on 2012 device and also 2011 it will be dificult for you to see on wich device how much time you will pas
cheers
Achotjan
Achotjan said:
well i just seen that you are interested by xperia S also, i dont need xperia S for developping so i sugest that you take the S and work on while i will fix hardware releatd thinks on play than i can send you the play back if you need, i will work on 2011 line and they have many thinks in commun but if you want to work on 2012 device and also 2011 it will be dificult for you to see on wich device how much time you will pas
cheers
Achotjan
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I think thats a good idea, if i get the s.
I am more interested in the play, but if doom agree, we can do it this way.
nickholtus said:
I think thats a good idea, if i get the s.
I am more interested in the play, but if doom agree, we can do it this way.
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@nickholtus connect to gmail
cheers
Achotjan
Ok so a very interesting thing has happened...
I am giving back two of the phones donated to me:
Xperia Play
Xperia S
now two of my old friends @Achotjan (know him from the X10 days) & @nickholtus (know him from the Arc/Play days) are both interested in these devices...
both are very good devs and have worked on challenging projects in the past and still continue to support devices...
now here is the best part.. both are happy and willing to work on these devices have agreed to swap the devices once they are done with their projects!
thats means with the single device you guys donated to me you will now have 3 devs working on it (initially I worked on them and now these two will take it over from here)...
i just want one promise from you guys @Achotjan & @nickholtus) that both of you will continue to develop for these devices and exchange them mutually!
i personally think this is a really good thing...
if anyone has any objection do let me know.. if everyone is cool with it, i will make arrangements to ship the device to these devs...
i really hope this will boost development for these devices
regards,
DooMLoRD
I dont see how anybody could object. I'm sure both people are very competent developers and I think we can all agree any work for our device would be greatly appreciated. So thank you to all 3 of you.
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