Official reason some games do not work on the Nook HD+ - Nook HD, HD+ General

This is from the Buggy Blitz folks that also made Riptide and Shine Runners. Also the apparent reason for Syder Arcade not working. Apparently it is a sound issue unique to the Nook as far as not working. Odd.
"Yeah the problem is that we use a sound system called FMOD which for some reason does not work on the Nook. We released a separate version specifically for Nooks through the Nook store, which is why it makes a difference if you buy it there or through the Google play store.
Unfortunately there's nothing we can do to fix this for you, other than issue you a refund and if you want you can go ahead and buy them through the Nook store. Only catch is that BBB is not available on Nook.
Matt"
The weird thing is Buggy Blitz, Riptide and Shine Runners DID work with stock 2.1 and I installed via Play market and not Nook market. Did the app stores mind meld?

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This is from the Buggy Blitz folks that also made Riptide and Shine Runners. Also the apparent reason for Syder Arcade not working. Apparently it is a sound issue unique to the Nook as far as not working. Odd.
"Yeah the problem is that we use a sound system called FMOD which for some reason does not work on the Nook. We released a separate version specifically for Nooks through the Nook store, which is why it makes a difference if you buy it there or through the Google play store.
Unfortunately there's nothing we can do to fix this for you, other than issue you a refund and if you want you can go ahead and buy them through the Nook store. Only catch is that BBB is not available on Nook.
Matt"
The weird thing is Buggy Blitz, Riptide and Shine Runners DID work with stock 2.1 and I installed via Play market and not Nook market. Did the app stores mind meld?
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And this is a total lie too, because the same crash happens on Kindle Fire HD 8.9 with CM10.1 that has a totally different sound driver.
also if we revert to older sgx drivers, these games start to work too, which sort of points into gfx direction as well.
Possibly there was some other, older issue that they refer too, though.

Regardless, the dev that can fix it will not, so same net result. All I know is the games did work with stock 2.1. That said, the stutter due to whatever the heck B&N's contracted devs did in the firmware (that and the library sync) made the device problematic for gaming. CM 10.1 makes the Nook HD+ crazy good compared to stock, especially factoring the price.
I have "lost" five games on the Nook (tested so far), but gained the three Star Wars games in Zen Arcade (those games did not work with 2.1 but do with CM 10.1).
More than reasonable "sacrifice"

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[q] can the nook color handle.. .

game loft games? I'm thinking of buying a nook and have um teen dollars invested on those games. also are there mods available that give this device the capability of running tegra zone games as well. not much of a significant selling point compared to its price drop alone. what would really sell me the usb otg host support mod that was released earlier this year by someone. i would like to know how that's holding up. I'm looking for a good reason to buy this over a china tablet with attractive specs. lol.
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Check out this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191804
It sounds like for the most part, yes, but you probably have to jump through some hoops to get them to install. I've only personally tried one or two of the "lite" versions they offer on the google market and they worked ok. I'm not sure how getting them from Gameloft works, but if you have the apk's, it will probably help.
For the USB host mode -- I've personally used it successfully with both a keyboard and mouse plugged directly into the Nook (I haven't tried both at the same time). In general, a hub should help to get most devices working, and a powered one is needed for higher-drain devices like external hard drives, etc. I couldn't find them right now, but there should be some more threads about this, if you're interested.
Ps. for many games [and emulators], the Wii remotes and PS3 controllers work very well.
I've successfully played Pinball and a couple others, and Tegra Zone works fine too. Haven't tried many yet, but with the chainfire app and the driver plugins you should be able to play most of them. Pinball runs great on my Nook, I'm overclocked to 1.2Ghz on CM7.1 stable.

Nook HD+ review with CM 10.1

First of all, Very and Leap- you two rock something fierce!
I did a review before of the HD+ with 2.1. I gave it a good review, but three things slowly eroded my opinion after time and I returned it.
1- Intermittent stutter that seemed to correlate with on the fly data loads and library sync. This stood out with games.
2- Games loading slow and some REAL sloooooow
3- Accumulative lag. Over a few days, the device got real slow and cache cleaning and restarts were hit and miss to fix it.
Best Buy had it on sale for $20 less this time ($180), so based on folks opinion of CM 10.1, I thought I would test it out again- due to the price and sweet display.
Where 2.1 was a big improvement over 2.0, the improvement from 2.1 to CM 10.1 is fluken' huge!
1- The intermittent stutter is gone along with library sync is gone.
2- Games load a LOT faster. I would not have thought the stock rom would be what was slowing it down, but I tested fresh installs two times with the same sloooow results with 2.1.
3- So far, the accumulated lag has not showed up.
4- Overall device is faster
I also added the "full screen" app to get rid of the navigation bar when I want. More just to test it out, but nice to have an iPad like full display view
Jeepers, it is wild how it is so easy to flash the device with 10.1 and equally wild to have the results of 10.1 with this hardware for the price. Superb so far
Of course, with anything in life comes the negatives:
1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game Ditto for Shine Runner. Same company.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
4- Quake 3 keeps expecting to see "sdcard" rather than "sdcard0". Touch Quake 1, 2 and Quake Arena mods work fine though. These are examples of games that loaded SLOW with stock 2.1, but are near instant with CM 10.1.
5- The CM 10.1 launcher was jittery and slow. I tried to get used to it, but went back to Nova, which is smooth and fast.
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
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there's 3rd party zip you can flash that restores it somewhat..
I also plan to look into this eventually and use texera fat module from the stock rom.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game
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That seems to be their bug related to new sgx drivers. Same crash happens on Kindle fire, for example. Nothing I can presently do about it.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
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Not sore about not waking up - never saw that. But rare boot problems will be fixed in next release. (esp. those that produce garbage on screen).
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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Still no camera, so it cannot serve as full TP replacement
No problem on the games not working, since works on my Excite 7.7 and S3!
Exfat and NTFS would be nice, down the road!
Thanks!
I think B&N could have done much better with this hardware if they hired someone like verygreen in the first place...
I still don't think this is a very good gaming device, though, especially for 3D.
But the screen is amazing and got me really spoiled. Now I look at Nexus 7 and feel the display is too cheap and low in quality. Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
Someone was complaining the Nook being slow and laggy vs a $499 Galaxy Note 10.1 with 2GB ram, quad core and much lower resolution. That is just unfair. But I guess people are entitled to their opinions.
Honestly I would not have bought this without seeing the CM10 and CM10.1 ports in progress. B&N really owes verygreen a commission. I like this combo so much that I hardly touch my Nexus 7 now.
BTW, donation sent.
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Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
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While I somewhat agree here, in reality I distributed Touchpads to my relative and they use them for things like Skype.
Nook, having no camera, cannot replace them and would be useless for such purposes.
I agree that the Nook has deficiencies (proprietary ports are a downer). When it comes to cheap toys we pick our poison, eg Nexus w/ no SD slot. If I want a cam or HDMI, there are a flood of cheap 7" tabs that have both, but none of them has a really great 1080p screen in an IMO perfect size and weight for one-handed use. I don't see any tablet with comparable display quality under $400.
Display quality aside, as a reader my preference is for a 4:3 aspect, since I use the tab mostly in portrait mode. But outside of the iPads, most Android tabs hewed to 16:10, which makes the display smaller than their diagonal size would indicate. The HD+ is the only one to eschew the norm in going with 3:2. That's actually better than 4:3, because the present Android UI takes off a couple slices at top and bottom, so the remaining space comes out pretty close to 4:3.
Using the dpi calculator here,
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
The 9" HD+ screen has a portrait width of 4.99". The 8.9" KF HD's is 4.72", or 0.27" smaller and not just 0.1" shorter diagonal. For tablet display size, every fraction of an inch is a big deal when you're squeezing a whole web page into portrait.
Some other display portrait widths, which I view as the tablet's true size measurement:
Code:
iPad Mini 4.71"
Nexus 7 3.71"
Galaxy Note 8 4.24"
Nexus 10 5.3"
iPad 5.82"
Oh yeah, e.mote: Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
True on the lack of camera, but I got it for books, comics (more than books) and games (mainly emulators). There are a few games that my Excite 7.7 plays smoother, but most play the same and game emulators like MAME and N64 are faster on the Nook HD+. Also, CM 10.1 closed the gap on the 3D games that are smoother on the Excite 7.7. GTA is a good example. It plays smooth now, where with 2.1, it did not. Asphalt 7 though is an example that plays smoother on the Excite. Asphalt 7 though is now very playable on the Nook HD+. The TF700 also struggles with some 3D games, BTW.
For game emulators. this thing rocks. $180 for a great display and plays emulators better than any other Android I have used- including the S4 and its quad Qualcomm. Bluetooth game pads work fine and no response lag noted so far and fits the iCade
Sad that we get the stock firmware we get when folks here do a better job for user experience. I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
>Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
I actually wrote that for myself, since I have a stack of HD+'s here that I'm retrofitting to pass along to the family. Credit where it is due, it's all a rehash of what leapinlar has written, but just a bit more digestible. And of course to verygreen that made this all possible.
Glad to hear Nook is good for games. I'm not a gamer, but other peeps in the household would be appreciative. Any good guides for emulators you can point to? How about some strategy/tactical games? I liked Call of Cthulhu and Rebuild.
BTW, little known factoid: The Nook's serial # is printed on the inside of the SD slot's rubber flap. I found that out when returning a HD+ for uneven backlighting.
>I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
I view it as a good-thing-bad-thing situation. If B&N had made a great Android tab, it wouldn't be holding a firesale to clear out the Nooks, and we wouldn't be here yakking away. So yes, I'm kinda glad the HD's didn't sell well (until now).
Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Totally agree. What controller do you use for the emu, though?
I found it extremely difficult to trigger complex moves (in games that require those) using just touch control..... I'm sure it would not be an issue for games that do not require those.
I use a generic Android controller from Gamestop, two Nyko Android pads and iCade. All work fine.
I found another game that worked with 2.1 but not with CM. NBA 2013. Another of my favorites. What are the odds of that? It loads to the point of showing the team logos at start up and then crashes.
Also, most games like NFSMW that took a long time to load up with 2 .1 now load fast like other tablets. The only exception found so far is Asphalt 7. It still loads crazy slow. About two minutes or more per track. Should take about ten seconds. The London level just took over two minutes. Almost three.
The game plays good though. Much smoother (no stutter) than 2.1, but that is the case for all games so far. Odd how Asphalt 7 seems the only slow load hold out. I have tested a ton. A7 appears to be an anomaly.
CM 10.1 BTW also confirms to me the main stutter was not the gpu, but the stock rom. As per Anandtech, the 4470 is still a capable chipset.
I also compared A7 on the GS3. They appear to play very similarly as far as smoothness. GS3 might be a tad smoother, but does not stand out. The GS3 plays all of my games smooth, but the Nook smacks it down as far as MAME. 4470 appears to be a great emulator chipset.
I figured out why a few games do not work. Quake 3 need the files on the SD card and looks like NBA 2013 is trying to run the game from there too. It installs to internal, but installs a directory also in the SD with no files. I am going to move it to the SD and see what happens.
Update. Looks like ports like Quake 3 work fine, but commercial games do not work when moving the files.

Who loves their Ouya?

So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.

Gameloft games not supported

So I basically couldnt wait for the sheild to come out and I bought one only to find out that big gameloft titles like Modern combat 4, Nova 3 etc are not supported by the shiled controls :crying: why nvidia why, I would have thought that nvidia would have some kind of on screen mapping controls like archos gamepad but I was wrong, I hope soon that they will with some kind of software update because alot of ppl who bought this thing to play big Gameloft Tiltes are not happy plzzzzz nvidia fix this
Current devices:
Xperia tablet Z 4G LTE. (4.2.2 rooted on stock rom)
Xperia Z. (4.2.2 rooted on custom Rom monxDIFIED)
Galaxy S4. (4.2.2 rooted on omega Rom)
Galaxy Note 2. (4.3 CM10.2)
Nvidia Shield. (4.2.1 rooted stock Rom)
PlayStation Vita 3G & WiFi (collecting dust)
There are 3rd party apps that let you do that.
Also NVidia have no obligation to "fix" this when it isn't an advertised feature.
If anything the only people that have to fix things are gameloft themselves.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
There are 3rd party apps that let you do that.
Also NVidia have no obligation to "fix" this when it isn't an advertised feature.
If anything the only people that have to fix things are gameloft themselves.
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Yes your right I hope gameloft update thier games to be compatible with the shield and their future games, besides what are the best 3rd party apps that work well with the shield
Here is the 3rd party app call gamekeyboard that can map the screen button
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.
MicroByter said:
Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.
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oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft am sure they heard my cry :good:
wrc1010 said:
Here is the 3rd party app call gamekeyboard that can map the screen button
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
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thankyou for this information :good:
eman2001 said:
oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft and sure they heard my cry :good:
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Wow, that is awesome news about NOVA 3. When you say it works fine, you mean the controls all work? If so, downloading later when I get home.
MicroByter said:
Wow, that is awesome news about NOVA 3. When you say it works fine, you mean the controls all work? If so, downloading later when I get home.
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yea all the controls just works fine :laugh::good:
eman2001 said:
yea all the controls just works fine :laugh::good:
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Woot! Thanks, getting it tonight!
eman2001 said:
oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft am sure they heard my cry :good:
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Then tell them to update Asphalt 7 or release 8 with Shield controls.
darkjedi said:
Then tell them to update Asphalt 7 or release 8 with Shield controls.
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well i hope they do soon
MicroByter said:
Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.
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Weird, are you saying it's not being sold through the Shield from the Play store? cuz i just did a search and could not find it. but when i searched on my desktop it shows up? all i can find is a bunch of cheats
GTX420 said:
Weird, are you saying it's not being sold through the Shield from the Play store? cuz i just did a search and could not find it. but when i searched on my desktop it shows up? all i can find is a bunch of cheats
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Same issue. I bought modern combat 4 for my phone a while ago, but I see no way to get it onto my shield.
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LADIES AND GENTS!
Root your shield and download "Device Spoofer". This app does as it sounds and spoofs google play into thinking your shield is whatever you want it to be. This makes it so you are no longer limited to games available to only shield. I have chosen to spoof the system into thinking my shield is an Xperia Play. Now I have access to all Gameloft games on the Google Play Market.
I'm still testing controller support while spoofing though. Don't get too excited.
unisasquatch said:
Same issue. I bought modern combat 4 for my phone a while ago, but I see no way to get it onto my shield.
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LADIES AND GENTS!
Root your shield and download "Device Spoofer". This app does as it sounds and spoofs google play into thinking your shield is whatever you want it to be. This makes it so you are no longer limited to games available to only shield. I have chosen to spoof the system into thinking my shield is an Xperia Play. Now I have access to all Gameloft games on the Google Play Market.
I'm still testing controller support while spoofing though. Don't get too excited.
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I went ahead and grabbed MC4 off Amazon App store...annoyed to have to buy again, but I was real curious about it working on the shield, and it does work well. The control mappings could be a bit better though, but maybe they are working it.
I also would like them to update Wild Blood - since I paid for that sometime ago but want to play it on my shield.
I wish they would quit releasing everything as freemium...I hope they DO NOT release MC5 as free to play.
I have an issue with the right stick not working in Max Payne and all gameloft games. Anyone else having that issue?
unisasquatch said:
I have an issue with the right stick not working in Max Payne and all gameloft games. Anyone else having that issue?
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drag down the top right notification and untick virtual mouse off, then it should work :good:
Think I found my first actual complaint with the shield and it's completely software related, possibly analog stick driver related. Could be corrected for in games, but after some testing all games are sort of struck by this.
You turn off mouse emulation and the analog stick movement in games is almost entirely static aside from the small zone in the center where you can make minor corrections. Movement hits "balls to the wall" max value very quickly IMO.
Nova 3 is brilliant with shield, a lot like a Halo 3 clone, I have spent many many many hours playing halo 3 so I was very excited. After playing for about 4-5 hours last night, one thing I could tell as being mostly different (aside from R bumper fire vs R trigger fire) was regardless of the sensitivity setting, the acceleration spectrum of the joystick isn't anywhere near the same.
You can turn down the look sensitivity and moving the stick quickly plateaued out on the speed you can look in any direction. You turn it up too high 3/5th-5/5th and it makes it impossible to make any kind of very sensitive minor correction. (no scopes) For me anyway, having it set to 1/5-2/5th sensitivity is perfect for the minor corrections in that game and getting those headshots with ease. But it makes making major corrections (looking behind you 180's) impractical. When playing on the xbox the more aggressive the stick movements the more it will accelerate your movement while still keeping minor corrections possible with minor movements. (I played halo 3 on 2/5th setting)
So, I went in and started checking other games, maybe it was just a problem with nova... and it's basically doing the same thing in every game. Spent a lot of time playing GTA 3 and same thing there as well. I didn't pick it up at first because for the other games I didn't have a good idea of "what right looked like" But other games like respawnables & shadowgun are sort of the same deal even though I didn't really have a point of reference for those.
I know it's not a simple thing to explain and ask for, and I bet a lot of people won't even notice it, or think it's just me. What is needed is the joystick equivalent to "mouse acceleration" in windows though.
EDIT: and there needs to be (or a bigger) deadzone in the center, that might actually fix both problems (push minor values outwards of the center some). I have found some analog stick ghost movements when my thumbs are off them.
I wouldn't mind trying order and chaos with controller support. If you use the device spoofer just to get the app downloaded then turn it off will the games run? The issue is mostly just getting them onto the device isn't it?
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I wouldn't mind trying order and chaos with controller support. If you use the device spoofer just to get the app downloaded then turn it off will the games run? The issue is mostly just getting them onto the device isn't it?
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The spoofer is only needed for the play store, from that point onwards the app itself has very little it can do to prevent running on your device.

Nook for everything but reading

So I just recently learned about how good of a deal the nook hd/hd+ were so I picked one up but wont be able to use it till after Christmas cause its a gift from my wife but I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy I usually play strategy games that have very minimal animation or maybe hill climb racing my question is, is it ok for gaming I know it has a nice screen but I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy . . . I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I'm running CM 10.1 on my Nook HD+, and just finished watching the last 9 races of the America's Cup on it (using the official America's Cup app from Google Play store). No problems at all, looked great. Watched a number of HD videos that I'd downloaded (e.g., Harvard Science and Cooking lectures). Fine all around, screen resolution is fantastic.
Not a big gamer, but have been playing Where's My Water (after watching my daughter play it) and a version of the old favorite Tetris. Again, graphics are fine, no lag issues.
I think you'll be very happy.
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I'm running CM 10.1 on my Nook HD+, and just finished watching the last 9 races of the America's Cup on it (using the official America's Cup app from Google Play store). No problems at all, looked great. Watched a number of HD videos that I'd downloaded (e.g., Harvard Science and Cooking lectures). Fine all around, screen resolution is fantastic.
Not a big gamer, but have been playing Where's My Water (after watching my daughter play it) and a version of the old favorite Tetris. Again, graphics are fine, no lag issues.
I think you'll be very happy.
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Yeah it will be nice to watch breaking bad on a bigger screen than my note 2
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Nook hd/hd+
timmyd463229 said:
So I just recently learned about how good of a deal the nook hd/hd+ were so I picked one up but wont be able to use it till after Christmas cause its a gift from my wife but I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy I usually play strategy games that have very minimal animation or maybe hill climb racing my question is, is it ok for gaming I know it has a nice screen but I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I bought one (hd+) about 3 months ago, and have been using CM10.2-sdcard as daily driver for about a couple of weeks. Reasonably fast for Netflix, Hulu-plus, Adobe Reader (PDFs with heavy graphics). Not sure about games. Not laggy at all for videos.
I have a Nook HD+ at my home, I gave it to my father. He lets my younger brother play with it all the time; playing various Google Play games, Nintendo 3DS ROMs and so much more. It's rarely ever used for reading at my home, other than when web browsing.
I would completely recommend a Nook HD+ for your entertainment purposes. It plays 1080p video files (.avi, .mp4 and .mkv are all what I've tested) perfectly fine using MX Player. Games work on it perfectly too, however, don't expect too many games to be compatible or expect to play the latest high-end graphical games. The three reasons for this is, firstly, the graphics performance of the tablet is not the greatest, but then again we can't expect it to be at a bargain price. Secondly the dual-core processor can't push as much as today's quad-cores can, and finally; many games and apps don't support the full 1080p resolution of the tablet (i.e. Sims FreePlay and other similar apps only support 720p or lower resolution screens). Of course, the last factor plays a major role but more apps are starting to support the higher resolution.
Games are compatible however, and you have a large selection on the Google Play store. The Nook should be able to run Hill Climb Racing, granted the game supports the 1080p resolution. If it does, the Nook will eat the game for breakfast. The games I've run on the tablet which was slow/laggy are Asphalt 7 and 8. FIFA 14 seems to run decent though.
Once you do open your Nook, remember to install CyanogenMod 10.1 stable (not nightly), of course by then we could have CM10.2 or even later. I used the Nook before the 2.0.10 update, and it was not worth having (no apps/games were installable, nor did Google Play come as standard). Once CyanogenMod was installed, it was a full fledged tablet, competing against the likes of the Nexus 7. Of course, with the 2.0.10 update, the Nook can now download Google Play apps. For the sake of Android, I would still recommend CyanogenMod however.
Once you install CyanogenMod, which is an easy process, you'll love your tablet. It should completely satisfy your entertainment needs.
I hope you enjoy it, and an early Merry Christmas.
HiddenG said:
I have a Nook HD+ at my home, I gave it to my father. He lets my younger brother play with it all the time; playing various Google Play games, Nintendo 3DS ROMs and so much more. It's rarely ever used for reading at my home, other than when web browsing.
I would completely recommend a Nook HD+ for your entertainment purposes. It plays 1080p video files (.avi, .mp4 and .mkv are all what I've tested) perfectly fine using MX Player. Games work on it perfectly too, however, don't expect too many games to be compatible or expect to play the latest high-end graphical games. The three reasons for this is, firstly, the graphics performance of the tablet is not the greatest, but then again we can't expect it to be at a bargain price. Secondly the dual-core processor can't push as much as today's quad-cores can, and finally; many games and apps don't support the full 1080p resolution of the tablet (i.e. Sims FreePlay and other similar apps only support 720p or lower resolution screens). Of course, the last factor plays a major role but more apps are starting to support the higher resolution.
Games are compatible however, and you have a large selection on the Google Play store. The Nook should be able to run Hill Climb Racing, granted the game supports the 1080p resolution. If it does, the Nook will eat the game for breakfast. The games I've run on the tablet which was slow/laggy are Asphalt 7 and 8. FIFA 14 seems to run decent though.
Once you do open your Nook, remember to install CyanogenMod 10.1 stable (not nightly), of course by then we could have CM10.2 or even later. I used the Nook before the 2.0.10 update, and it was not worth having (no apps/games were installable, nor did Google Play come as standard). Once CyanogenMod was installed, it was a full fledged tablet, competing against the likes of the Nexus 7. Of course, with the 2.0.10 update, the Nook can now download Google Play apps. For the sake of Android, I would still recommend CyanogenMod however.
Once you install CyanogenMod, which is an easy process, you'll love your tablet. It should completely satisfy your entertainment needs.
I hope you enjoy it, and an early Merry Christmas.
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I read there are apps that make the games run at 720p so if they cant run 1080p it will be smoother
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Heavy 3D suffers a bit at the high resolution of the HD+, but general GUI and video always seem smooth to me.
timmyd463229 said:
I read there are apps that make the games run at 720p so if they cant run 1080p it will be smoother
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That app creates instability and can create boot issues. Not worth it IMO, but already "took" my $2. This function is more suitable at kernel level and part of settings. Best IMO to avoid.
It is also a battery sucking mess in sleep mode. The app must constantly poll the chipset.
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That app creates instability and can create boot issues. Not worth it IMO, but already "took" my $2. This function is more suitable at kernel level and part of settings. Best IMO to avoid.
It is also a battery sucking mess in sleep mode. The app must constantly poll the chipset.
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Ok sounds good to me just use the apps that work and forget the ones that dont lol its not like there aren't a surplus of apps on the play store
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It is not as much the app as how it changes the resolution that is standard for all.

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