Does putting my ROM to root of SD make a difference? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I usually have to flash like 4+ different zips and its most convenient if I could have them all in one folder instead of all over, does it really make it difference if I flash from a folder or SD?
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justin11141 said:
I usually have to flash like 4+ different zips and its most convenient if I could have them all in one folder instead of all over, does it really make it difference if I flash from a folder or SD?
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Not as far as I know. I often flash .zips from /download and have absolutely no issues.
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No difference at all. Back in the day before the recoveries had file explorers. They only looked for the file /sdcard/update.zip.
So you used to have to rename your zip to update.zip then put it on the root of sdcard or else it wouldn't install anything.
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Nexus 4 16GB Actual Storage size

My internal storage reads a 12.3 GB size, now is that including the size of the OS or not? Because after formatting my SD i have a little under 7GB available. So is the missing 5GB or so for OS? Meaning the true size of the SD is 12.3GB? That seems awfully low, even after realizing the promised storage size is always optimistic from the producer. Anyone got the answer?
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My internal storage reads a 12.3 GB size, now is that including the size of the OS or not? Because after formatting my SD i have a little under 7GB available. So is the missing 5GB or so for OS? Meaning the true size of the SD is 12.3GB? That seems awfully low, even after realizing the promised storage size is always optimistic from the producer. Anyone got the answer?
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That sounds about right... My 211k Nexus 4 16 GB shows 12.92 GB of free space running CM10.1 nighlies, franco.kernel, .27 radio, and CWM recovery
Should look like so..
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Do without apps/pics/bids etc you should still have around 12.8 available space to be used.
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Here's mine, which in my eyes doesn't quite add up
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olsywolsy said:
Here's mine, which in my eyes doesn't quite add up
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How did you format your SD? Do you have any ROM backups?
right I just ran SD MAID and it says 9.2GB is used in folders /storage/emulated/0 and /storage/emulated/legacy - both are exact duplicates of the same ****! After googling it people seem to have the same issue! Know which one is safe to delete? I'm running AOKP milestone 1 if that helps
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right I just ran SD MAID and it says 9.2GB is used in folders /storage/emulated/0 and /storage/emulated/legacy - both are exact duplicates of the same ****! After googling it people seem to have the same issue! Know which one is safe to delete? I'm running AOKP milestone 1 if that helps
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Both /storage/emulated/legacy and /storage/emulated/0 points to the same location so you are seeing the same files in both locations. SD Maid seems buggy if it cannot detect symlinks properly (maybe there is an option for that app so it doesn't follow symlinks).
Okay, heres a screenshot of SD MAID. I have folders sdcard/ - storage/emulated/legacy - storage/emulated/0 and storage/sdcard0 all containing the same stuff and the memory I'm missing is exactly that of which I'm already using up so it must be duplicating everything elsewhere, but in which directory?
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Okay, heres a screenshot of SD MAID. I have folders sdcard/ - storage/emulated/legacy - storage/emulated/0 and storage/sdcard0 all containing the same stuff and the memory I'm missing is exactly that of which I'm already using up so it must be duplicating everything elsewhere, but in which directory?
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Be careful deleting either. I had a similar issue after using an old version of Astro File Manager. I think they may be "Hard Links", not "Symbolic Links". I ended up backing up my SD data, and did a Factory Reset, which formats the SD partition. All is well now.
It's a known issue that it can sometimes think you have 8GB as opposed to 16GB and the only way to fix it is to flash the factory image...there is a thread on here somewhere about it
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It's a known issue that it can sometimes think you have 8GB as opposed to 16GB and the only way to fix it is to flash the factory image...there is a thread on here somewhere about it
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I would recommend doing this!
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Okay I'll give this a go and report back. Factory reset via setting>backup & reset >factory data reset, right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033692
This thread? I shall give it a go. Do I need to flash back to the stock ROM to do this or can I simply flash my recovery back to stock do the factory reset and then flash CM recovery again?
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Okay I'll give this a go and report back. Factory reset via setting>backup & reset >factory data reset, right?
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I think were talking about 2 different issues. You phone knows it has 16GB, it's just the files are taking twice the space.
Yes, setting>backup & reset >factory data reset was what worked for me.
The other issue was when flashing custom ROM's, on a 16GB model, your phone became a 8GB model.
So you don't believe I have this issue of a 16Gb model believing its an 8Gb model? But instead just because my filed are duplicated?
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Holy ****, found the culprit. I had 3 nandroid backups taking up 5.6 GB. Never realised they were located outside of the sdcard. I have 8.somethingGB free now. Apologies for wasting time! Thanks anyway
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They are on the SD card, just not normally visible in Windows. If you go to /data/media/clockworkmod in your favourite root explorer (e.g. ES) you'll find them there (or you can delete them through your custom recovery)
Yes I meant not visible as opposed to not actually being present on the sdcard
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After factory reset I show a total available space of 12.92gb and with nothing loaded on the device it says 10.21gb available. Is this normal? I was under the impression that if the internal storage was wiped I should have pretty much all of the 12.92gb available for use due to the other 3 gb 13-16 being used for the actual system. What am I missing?
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[Q] HELP- Nexus 4 Storage Capacity

I have a 16gb nexus 4. I rooted my phone a few weeks ago and decided to DL flash cm 10.1 to my phone yesterday. But, it got stuck in a boot loop and I restored to the android backup I had.
The problem is, now my storage says only 435 mb free, but I had around 6gb free before. I have no idea what caused this or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Nandroid backups?
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I don't think it's that. I only have one backup and it says it's only a few megabytes.
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Hopefully this answers your question;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033692
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So, of I do the fast boot and recover my data, it should clear up the storage space?
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This of screen shot of my storage capacity.
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Fazleee said:
This of screen shot of my storage capacity.
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Oh I misunderstood you, it is showing that you have 16gb its just that a lot of it is missing.
I would try deleting unneeded nandroids, especially if they are CWM as they don't get saved somewhere you can use a simple file manager to get to I don't think.
Also try clearing cache and davlik cache, if this doesn't work, I think you'll have to back up apps and factory reset through recovery.
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But the nandroids are only 7.38 mbs. I don't think they are the cause of the problem. I was researching the problem online and I think it might be the lost.dir folder, but I can't find it.
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Here's a screen shot of what android tuner tells me about my system space.
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Fazleee said:
But the nandroids are only 7.38 mbs. I don't think they are the cause of the problem. I was researching the problem online and I think it might be the lost.dir folder, but I can't find it.
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there's something wrong then. a nandroid will NEVER be 7.38mb
Wait, I think you're right. The nandroid back up I made on my computer says 5gb. But, which system folder is it in on my phone?
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exb0 said:
there's something wrong then. a nandroid will NEVER be 7.38mb
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Wait, I think you're right. The nandroid back up I made on my computer says 5gb. But, which system folder is it in on my phone?
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Wait, I think you're right. The nandroid back up I made on my computer says 5gb. But, which system folder is it in on my phone?
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which recovery did you use?
CWM goes to /data/media/clockworkmod
TWRP goes to /sdcard/TWRP/backup
I think...
exb0 said:
which recovery did you use?
CWM goes to /data/media/clockworkmod
TWRP goes to /sdcard/TWRP/backup
I think...
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Thank you so much.
I found it, deleted it, and got my space back.
But that leads me to another question. If I don't have a backup on my phone, how will I restore? Because yesterday, I was in a boot loop, and the ADB connection wouldn't work. The only reason I could restore was because I had the nandroid back up on my phone already.
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Fazleee said:
Thank you so much.
I found it, deleted it, and got my space back.
But that leads me to another question. If I don't have a backup on my phone, how will I restore? Because yesterday, I was in a boot loop, and the ADB connection wouldn't work. The only reason I could restore was because I had the nandroid back up on my phone already.
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If you were in a bootloop, get into recovery and choose sideload. Then you can push a rom file and flash it. Or you could just not remove the recovery. TWRP nandroid take less space.
I see. I just used CWM because I read that they were better. I'm still new at all of this. Thank you. You've been very helpful.
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I see. I just used CWM because I read that they were better. I'm still new at all of this. Thank you. You've been very helpful.
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No problem. It's not really.. accurate to say which is better.to each his own.

Read only file system error

Hey guys. Like a few months back I unrooted my phone and got back to stock. Now I rooted again using the toolkit but when I try to edit the system files I get this error for some reason used to be perfect in the past. Would be great if somebody could help me out.
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The file manager your using has to be set to r/w. What file manager are you using
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Yup I tried that. I am able to delete and replace files if I do that but I'm not able to edit.
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I tried using root explorer and edited the file successfully but when I save and open the file again the values return to the old ones.
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Thermald.conf I think is coded in the kernel and can't be changed
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spaceman860 said:
Thermald.conf I think is coded in the kernel and can't be changed
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But I used to change it the last time I was rooted on any kernel
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Deleting roms

Once you download and flash as rom, can you delete the file from your sd card?
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Yes
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Goto the download location and delete the file.
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Not a good idea, what happens if something goes wrong and you need to reflash? Better keep it handy.
I always keep my current ROM, current kernel and stock kernel available to flash in case i run into issues caused by tweaking.
That is what nandroid backups are for. Delete em.
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Nandroid backups aren't always reliable. If you don't want a rom on your phone then keeping it on your pc is a good idea.
metalfan78 said:
Not a good idea, what happens if something goes wrong and you need to reflash? Better keep it handy.
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That's when you power the phone off, download the ROM on PC and transfer it to a MicroSD card. Better to keep the .zip on the phone rather than carry a laptop around though. Lol.
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I keep several ROMs and kernels on my sd card in case something goes haywire. Which has happened and I couldn't reflash the same ROM or my Nandroid, and could only flash a backup ROM I kept on my sd. I would have been screwed because I was using gps to get to a work site and wouldn't have known where to go. And couldn't have called anyone to find out since my phone wouldn't boot. From then on I have at least 2-3 ROMs and kernels etc.
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Backed up through recovery...is it supposed to be 4 gigs large?

Hey guys
I backed up my phone with TWRP and the file itself was 4 gigs! Is it supposed to be this large? It took up a large chunk of my space on my phone that I am now trying to flash a rom with..any idea?
jookskidd said:
Hey guys
I backed up my phone with TWRP and the file itself was 4 gigs! Is it supposed to be this large? It took up a large chunk of my space on my phone that I am now trying to flash a rom with..any idea?
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Yes they are that large for a touchwiz. AOSP backups are about 1.2 GBs
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daniel4653 said:
Yes they are that large for a touchwiz. AOSP backups are about 1.2 GBs
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what's the difference and how can I get that? I am about to back it up and just save it on the computer and delete the back up itself to save space.
Also, how can i tell if i am de odexed or odexed?
I am rooted, however.
jookskidd said:
what's the difference and how can I get that? I am about to back it up and just save it on the computer and delete the back up itself to save space.
Also, how can i tell if i am de odexed or odexed?
I am rooted, however.
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Aosp is pure Android. Like you get on the nexus devices. And touchwiz is Samsung's bloatware that is thrown on.
Use root explorer and go into system/app and if some APKs have an .odex file following it by the same name then you are on an odexes ROM.
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Also next time you do a backup, make sure you back up to the external card, otherwise it uses all that space on your phone's internal memory.
Delete cache and dalvik before backing up. The size will go down significantly
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Enable compression also.
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Also make sure when you go to run your backup, make sure that system, boot, and data are the only options checked off. I've boot into recovery and noticed more than 3 were checked off for some odd reason
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reverepats said:
Also make sure when you go to run your backup, make sure that system, boot, and data are the only options checked off. I've boot into recovery and noticed more than 3 were checked off for some odd reason
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Because they are necessary for a full backup.
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