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Ota in America

When do you think we will receive the new ota and do you think all carriers will get it at the same time?
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August when international gets jelly bean. If that is when they get pushed that update
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ttieder said:
When do you think we will receive the new ota and do you think all carriers will get it at the same time?
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Not Jelly Bean yet but we can start with this one - Samsung Galaxy S III OTA update adds brightness widget to drop-down menu
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ota-update-adds-brightness-widget-to-drop-d/
looks to be released today.
EDIT: Looks like this is only for Global phones

DC_MTP said:
Not Jelly Bean yet but we can start with this one - Samsung Galaxy S III OTA update adds brightness widget to drop-down menu
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ota-update-adds-brightness-widget-to-drop-d/
looks to be released today.
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I was talking about that one I know jellybean ain't coming for at least October .
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From my experience with my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, VZW users will get an update about 6-8 weeks after everyone else.

stevessvt said:
From my experience with my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, VZW users will get an update about 6-8 weeks after everyone else.
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Lmao, well if Samsung was able to get all devices in US carriers hopefully they got the change to mention updates too
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Even though this is for International version, would devs be able to take anything from it and implement things for us?
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The ota is for the intl version not for the usa version. The devices r completely different.

dasistsparta said:
The ota is for the intl version not for the usa version. The devices r completely different.
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We know that, but we hope Samsung delivers the update too
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jgalan14 said:
We know that, but we hope Samsung delivers the update too
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What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week

dasistsparta said:
What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week
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Well that brightness slider would be a GREAT addition in my opinion. I also wouldn't mind if the fixed the standby battery draw reporting glitch. Also, they could ACTUALLY fix the standby battery draw so the phone doesn't suck it self dry through the day from standby.
Oh yeah, the desktop background doesn't scroll when you flip screens. Don't know if that's a glitch, but it's just stupid and should be changed.
Another thing, the phone seems to just drop reception randomly even though it's in a fully covered area. This constant drop and pick up is suuuuuper annoying when you're surfing the web or using some messenger app. Also is a battery killer as well.
Improvements can always be made. It's nice to get the updates and nice to know samsung/att cares about our experience. (For sure ATT doesn't give two ****s so I hope Samsung can persuade)

dasistsparta said:
What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week
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Not sure if serious...
This phone's wireless/data radio are a complete pos. WiFi drops constantly, and it's just weak. I can't even believe how weak the signal is. You guys are worried about brightness...lol .

I've personally have had an issue where callers from my contacts list show up as Unknown. My Dad, with the same GS3, called me and asked if I was having this issue as he had been noticing it as well. Also, some others on xda have reported the same or similar issues.
I called and talked to a rep at tmo and was told that it was a known issue being worked on by tmo and sammy. Not sure when (or if) this will be fixed, but I'm hopeful.

[Q] Internal Memory Loss

I am at a loss here. I have an SGH-i337 (AT&T GS4) 64gb, when I go to the Storage settings it shows that I only have 24.03gb available. That does not sound right to me. I understand that system files and bloatware will take a few gb's but nearly 40gb?! If this is correct then I feel severely wronged by both Samsung and AT&T. If there is something wrong and there is a way to remedy it I would greatly appreciate the insight, thank you.

There's a 64 GB version?

I am a bit confused to
There is no att 64 gb model ( unless there is and I don;t know) and if you did get that much usable gb then it is probably a 'lemon' and you should return it for exchange.

That definitely sounds like a 32 GB model..
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There's a 64 GB version?
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Actually, I have just removed my foot from my mouth. I was thinking of my 64gb microSD card when I was writing about my dilema. I in fact have a 32gb S4. I am still confused on just how much space is being utilized by system settings and bloatware. Is 7+ GB the norm for these things? And thank you joeybear23 for pointing out my inaccuracy .

chaoticseoul said:
Actually, I have just removed my foot from my mouth. I was thinking of my 64gb microSD card when I was writing about my dilema. I in fact have a 32gb S4. I am still confused on just how much space is being utilized by system settings and bloatware. Is 7+ GB the norm for these things? And thank you joeybear23 for pointing out my inaccuracy .
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Unfortunately yes its about what the OS uses
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Yup. Right out of the box mine had 9.2GB free...
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If only XDA had a "search" feature...

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If only XDA had a "search" feature...
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If only your reply was useful
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i miss the old days when even sense roms and touchwiz roms were -500MB lol.

Yeah man I feel ripped off but what can we do? Still happy with my phone so I can deal with it.
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Someone please set me straight.

I have an upgrade available and am considering moving from the One to the SGS 4.
I'm on AT&T. From what I've been reading,and I've been reading for a while now, if my SGS 4 comes with the latest firmware out of the box, I can root it, but Loki, therefore custom ROMS and recovery are out. Is this correct?
I was hoping to be able to put the Google edition ROM on the SGS 4.
Someone please set me straight.
Please and thanks

Correct, if it has the latest firmware than no flashing roms
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mg2195 said:
Correct, if it has the latest firmware than no flashing roms
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Thanks. I'm going to look awful funny making the guy open the box and check the firmware version before I buy, but I guess I'll have to.

gunnyman said:
Thanks. I'm going to look awful funny making the guy open the box and check the firmware version before I buy, but I guess I'll have to.
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The firmware version is on the side of the box, if I am not mistaken. I just got my S4 shipped directly from AT&T. It came with MDL.
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And mdl is what I want right?

If you want to install custom ROMs, yes.
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Typically, at least from what ive seen, the ATT box will have an "Updated" sticker on it if the firmware has been updated. My GS3 had that.

I have both the One and the S4. I don't think I'd give up the one for the s4.
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Eallan I'm just bored. Probably keep both phones and switch around

gunnyman said:
Eallan I'm just bored. Probably keep both phones and switch around
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That's what I've been doing haha.
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Just go to the store and ask the sales tech to find one that ends in MDL and NOT one that ends in MF3.
It sounds crazy or embarrassing, but it is not! Certainly it is not illegal or wrong to do this.
Others have done that and the AT&T folks really don't care, or if they do select another sales person or even another store (like Best Buy or even Costco and Radio Shack! Those other stores may even have better insurance plans than AT&Ts!)
(As to which phone. ...the HTC One is prettier, and it is unique in design, but would you be happy with less/slower ram, no changeable battery, no SD card, and a smaller screen? The S4 also has some very nice camera options that seem (to me at least) a bit better than the HTC One. Of course, it is all personal preference . . )
Good Luck!

HTC president says developer edition to skip 4.2

Goin straight to 4.3
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ac3kill said:
Goin straight to 4.3
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Lies!!! But where's your proof bro?
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HMMMMM.....(checks GE converted one with 4.3) yep
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Lies!!! But where's your proof bro?
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There was a tweet. Google it. It was also posted on an android central article. I think that's bs. It's been ready why jot push it.
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Here's the links
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ll-skip-android-4-2-2-and-go-straight-to-4-3/
https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/368570622080602112

monkeypaws said:
There was a tweet. Google it. It was also posted on an android central article. I think that's bs. It's been ready why jot push it.
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It's not ready, besides before it can be sent out to carrier branded models the carrier adds their bloat and approves the update. Ultimately making those who have carrier models wait longer
The Developer Edition obviously isn't branded so once it's ready the update will be released
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Ultimately I think its good because it will get 4.3 dev ed out soon for the developers to use as a base for roms...
Won't help those of us that have Sprint devices as we'll have to wait for a Sprint version to come out but maybe the Verizon 4.2.2 can be used...
MG

HTC's US President also says that they want EVERY US model running 4.3 by September. Good news.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/08/18/...ing-to-update-u-s-models-by-end-of-september/

Yey. ARHD Sense will definitely be running 4.3. Or maybe we can flash the RUU too. They still haven't given a RUU for 2.24 and I'm stuck with custom ROMS. ; -;

superchilpil said:
It's not ready, besides before it can be sent out to carrier branded models the carrier adds their bloat and approves the update. Ultimately making those who have carrier models wait longer
The Developer Edition obviously isn't branded so once it's ready the update will be released
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I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"

FangorX said:
I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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Yeah US carriers do more extensive testing and stuff with these. I used to do device and update testing at a carrier and because US networks are crap and a hodgepodge of standards and what works in LA without many changes doesn't work as easily in NY without some network adjustments.
Then there is the carrier bloat issue that they want all their garbage on them and then that too has to be tested, etc...
No excuses as they take too long and load too much on devices, just explaining why it takes so long...
MG

So do you think USA will get 4.3 before Europe and Asia? If so would devs change their base or wait?
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FangorX said:
I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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They perform quality control and testing. It's a VERY long and tedious engineering process trust me.
So not only does it run through HTC but also the carriers right after.
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So do you think USA will get 4.3 before Europe and Asia? If so would devs change their base ?
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I definitely believe that areas outside the US will get it first. The only thing I want from AT&T is the firmware. All the software is virtually the same minus the fact our carriers overload it with bloat.

Glad I went S-Off on my Developer Edition and flashed the 3.06 already.
To all those saying "testing" is the reason 4.2.2 is delayed... why is it available for branded phones then? I don't understand why bloated versions have 4.2.2 already while the Developer Edition doesnt? They are essentially the same phone. If "testing" is the reason, why flashing 3.06 to my Developer Edition hasn't given me any problems?

schn1tt3r said:
Glad I went S-Off on my Developer Edition and flashed the 3.06 already.
To all those saying "testing" is the reason 4.2.2 is delayed... why is it available for branded phones then? I don't understand why bloated versions have 4.2.2 already while the Developer Edition doesnt? They are essentially the same phone. If "testing" is the reason, why flashing 3.06 to my Developer Edition hasn't given me any problems?
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Because HTC is in bed with useless US carriers.
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kirdroid said:
Because HTC is in bed with useless US carriers.
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no it' s because the 4.2.2 update was pulled because of bugs

godutch said:
no it' s because the 4.2.2 update was pulled because of bugs
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Exactly... base Android 4.2.2 was a fix to a bad release. Its fairly common that although 4.2 brought some of the coolest new features it was buggy as hell and had some deeply ingrained issues. 4.2.1 & 4.2.2 were both bug fixes , with neither fixing the root issues.
I prefer they move to 4.3. For being a new release it is very very solid and a worthy stable release to launch KLP from. Similar to the 2.3.5-7 to 4.0 jump.
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FangorX said:
I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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Yes. Here in the states these carriers are crazy. Especially Verizon. They're the top US carrier. They add like useless apps to your phone.
The issue is carriers want to make sure that the phone complies with what they want on their network. Their wants are pretty trivial. They're just expressing their power.
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Will the 4.3 update come to Unbranded USA HTC One 32 gb too?

Purchasing used Note 4 Developer Edition

I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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I just purchased a used DE Note 4. The baseband version is N910VVRU2BOF1. The guy said it was used on Verizon since this August, but he said he didn't accept any OTAs from Verizon. I haven't received it yet and he hadn't shipped it, but how would I be able to tell if the bootloader is unlocked before he ships it? I'm wanting to install TWRP and put MOROM on it as soon as I get it. I hope this isn't a stupid question, I've been out of the Android tweaking scene since last year so I'm a little rusty.
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You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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razvu said:
You will have to start the phone holding the power, home and volume down. When the menu appears, it should say mode: developer, with blue letters, if I'm not wrong. If you don't see developer anywhere in that menu, it's retail. Ask him to provide you with a photo of that screen.
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Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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Bullhead00 said:
Thanks for the reply! I've never owned a developer edition device before. Still running my MDK Galaxy S4, rooted with Phil's Touch Recovery. Nothing wrong with it at all, just wanted to get the last phone available from Samsung with an unlocked bootloader, removable battery, and expandable memory. Who knows how long I'll hang onto this (assuming the bootloader is unlocked). I guess I could attempt to send it in to Samsung for a reflash?
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If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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razvu said:
If the phone was originally a developer edition, you can send it to Samsung for a reflash, if necessary. There should be proof that the phone is actually a developer edition (receipt from the seller), or IMEI and model number which should be SMN910VMKE. If the phone is still in warranty, they will most likely reflash it for free.
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Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Bullhead00 said:
Man I appreciate the information big time. That makes me feel a little better about the purchase. The guy bought it new in August and it's had a screen protector on it from day one. Picked it up for $480 off eBay.
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Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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razvu said:
Good luck, I hope it is as described.
I had a similar experience, but the phone had a hardware defect, which was really questionable, however the seller had proof of purchase and the phone was in warranty.
Then, it took Samsung a month to fix the problem. First, they fixed the hardware issue by replacing the motherboard, screen, etc, but they flashed the retail software and it came locked. I had to call them second time and speak with someone from the repair center and explain clearly and repeatedly that the bootloader should be unlocked as it's a developer edition.
After a long month and 2 trips, it's running great, how all the Note 4 should run, no ads, tethering, etc.
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Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Bullhead00 said:
Awesome! I'm guessing you're still on grandfathered unlimited data? I still have my unlimited from back in 2007 when I worked at a Verizon store. Not giving it up!
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Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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razvu said:
Yep, 2 lines on unlimited that's why I wanted a developer phone, so I can use tethering if needed. Both Note 4 and S4 seem to get very good reception.
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My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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Bullhead00 said:
My wife and I both have unlimited Verizon. My cousin has a Note 4 on unlimited also, and he always has slightly better reception than my S4.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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You will like the phone. I run Jasmine rom with Nova launcher, there is no lag, much smoother than stock TouchWiz. I tried Morom, I liked it, but I couldn't get rid of Google services error. I tried everything I could think of.
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I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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I had planned on running Morom actually. I'll look into Jasmine. There's not a whole lot to choose from really from what I've seen. I'm just looking mainly for reliability because I use my phone for pretty much everything.
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Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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razvu said:
Same here, I need it to be reliable, I just couldn't put up with the random errors in Morom. Let me know if you get it to work. I tried reading through the thread, a lot of people complain about them, not sure about the fix.
Feature wise, I liked Morom.
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I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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Bullhead00 said:
I'll update this thread with my progress. Thanks for all the info again! Can't thank you enough!
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You're welcome!
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I want one! $480 is a good deal.
EBAY and swappa both have slim pickings.
I would guess bad ESN is rare, unless reported stolen.

heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB

GreenGoblin227 said:
heres one on fleabay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...777636?hash=item280c57e0e4:g:ZzYAAOSwxN5WT-WB
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Who knows that that one will go for! The last one I was watching that was up for bid instead of buy it now went for over $900!!
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i am still on kitkat haha i love it!

Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?

Telemachus said:
Yeah who cares about the OS. I haven't seen much change since ICS.
Are all the touch wiz roms for DE based on 4.4.4?
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No, Morom and Jasmine are based on latest Lollipop (BOG5).
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