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Free ram

Greetings again ,
After reboot and all my things loaded i have 150-160mb free ram all the time , do you think is ok ?
I think the phone has 384 MB RAM .
Please share your opinion
Thanks
Vatis

Yes. In the world of android.. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Does sound about average. the x10 does have 384 ram although apparently it can only use 256 ram because of limitations of android 1.6!!
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Thanks for your replies
Vatis

im_iceman said:
Yes. In the world of android.. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Agreed!
Dont need to worry about RAM on android smartphones. Android system takes care of how to utilize RAM.

I remember immediately after root, I had 202MB free immediately after startup, but for some reason, now it's around 160...Anyone know how to permanently kill apps from starting up?

@chris knows... please read the posts prior to yours.. you don't need to kill stuff.

im_iceman said:
@chris knows... please read the posts prior to yours.. you don't need to kill stuff.
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I read that, but figured removing apps that autostart would save battery. Or is the power consumed negligible, and I shouldn't worry about it?

chris_knows said:
I read that, but figured removing apps that autostart would save battery. Or is the power consumed negligible, and I shouldn't worry about it?
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The apps are in idle state.
Well, most of them anyway so they won't use cpu which means battery is not used either.
Only services are running.
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For some reason, my phone got only around 30MB of free RAM after using it for 5-10 mins since startup. I dont use any task manager, and the only program that I use to stop startup apps is Startup Auditor and I only disable Moxier Mail at startup. My phone is not rooted. Is it normal? Cuz comparing my free RAM to you guys, I just feel a HUGE difference here
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I only have 34Mb free
As somebody said before ... free ram = wasted ram.

Memory is full... Need help.

Hi
I just had an issue of the internal memory is getting full even if I already had the applications and games installed in the memory card
But I wonder if there are any way or tips to optimize the RAM and get as much space as possible ?
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Not much besides returning it and complaining the the 500.00+ phone you paid for came with 3.00 worth of storage. Im being generous saying the internal memory is 3.00 its more like 2.00
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But there should be away to optimize the RAM coz its totally an clear for the internal memory to get full fast even if I just had only few apps installed. My Iphone have more apps and games installed and I never had an issue with memory
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yo_yousef80 said:
Hi
I just had an issue of the internal memory is getting full even if I already had the applications and games installed in the memory card
But I wonder if there are any way or tips to optimize the RAM and get as much space as possible ?
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Yes there are many ways. Easiest and fastest download the app: "app to sd" from market and u can move most apps to sd card.
Try that and let me know
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Plz do return ur phone. U donno notjing about tech. And mobile phones. Go with ur apple ripppp offf buddy
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I really love this phone but I cant install more apps.. And really iphone is a great mobile. Sure the specifications are not much but I love the iOS updates ( I have used previously iphone 2g for the last three years with no complains)
I dont want to return the mobile coz I love old games ( neogeo , mame...) but I need help in installing more apps.
Cheers
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I will try it
Thanks
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Flame the noob, shame on you You don't know jack until someone points you in the right direction. Sure he should have searched a little, but still.
Dude, you got good advice on the apps2sd. The real memory improvements are after you pluck up the courage to root your device, but it's pretty easy. Follow the other posts on same. Then you can check out Titanium Backup from the market, or there is another command you can run if you install the Android Development Kit but it's more techy. Stick to Titanium, it moves most of the game to SD, leaving <1Mb for each. I have loads of games installed & have 150Mb free.
Let us know how you get on...

Thank you guys. I just tried it and it freed around 120MB
I really dont know much about the android and how to handle it properly but really you all are giving a great help and I appreciate it very much
Once again thank you very much
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Rixter757 said:
Flame the noob, shame on you You don't know jack until someone points you in the right direction. Sure he should have searched a little, but still.
Dude, you got good advice on the apps2sd. The real memory improvements are after you pluck up the courage to root your device, but it's pretty easy. Follow the other posts on same. Then you can check out Titanium Backup from the market, or there is another command you can run if you install the Android Development Kit but it's more techy. Stick to Titanium, it moves most of the game to SD, leaving <1Mb for each. I have loads of games installed & have 150Mb free.
Let us know how you get on...
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+1
ignore the angry Canadian

yo_yousef80 said:
Thank you guys. I just tried it and it freed around 120MB
I really dont know much about the android and how to handle it properly but really you all are giving a great help and I appreciate it very much
Once again thank you very much
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If you learn how to use adb, you can try the command " pm setInstallLocation 2 ", this will force more apps to install to the SD Card and free up even more space

What i can delete on my internal storage? Where are the rings, Demopictures...? I us apps2sd and i have only ~100 MB free. What is adb and how i us it?
An Ex-iPhone User ;-)
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I'm not flaming or anything I just want to enlighten the OP.
Ram is not what you are referring to. What you are referring to is the internal storage.
Internal storage = Computer hard drive
Ram is where processes are being run atm. every time you turn off the phone the ram is cleared.
Now like many have said you can use adb and setinstalllocation2. What this will do is install all the applications on your memory card.

German-Guy said:
What i can delete on my internal storage? Where are the rings, Demopictures...? I us apps2sd and i have only ~100 MB free. What is adb and how i us it?
An Ex-iPhone User ;-)
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Follow this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089282
I was in exact same position as you, coming from Iphone, I did this and all is good.
Ignore the uber nerds on here that give you sh!t. There are loads of nice, helpful people on here and it is a great place, but a few bad apples will continually want to put people asking questions down.

Hi
Thanks for your help and sure I face a couple if issue in my xperia play but like u said I came from iphone background and also like u said there are lots of helpful people here that help me alot
Thank you all for the help and I just startd to understand my special phone
Cheers
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Red_Kop said:
Follow this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089282
I was in exact same position as you, coming from Iphone, I did this and all is good.
Ignore the uber nerds on here that give you sh!t. There are loads of nice, helpful people on here and it is a great place, but a few bad apples will continually want to put people asking questions down.
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I agree wholeheartedly, but this is, so to say, XDA's stance on the matter:

yo_yousef80 said:
Hi
Thanks for your help and sure I face a couple if issue in my xperia play but like u said I came from iphone background and also like u said there are lots of helpful people here that help me alot
Thank you all for the help and I just startd to understand my special phone
Cheers
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First of all check all the apps are on stock apps2sd. Go to settings/applications/manage applications then on the top click SD Card. It will then bring up a list of all the apps that are stock apps2sd conpatable and if theres a tick it means there already on. If no tick click the app then click "Move to SD". Instant more space.
Second uninstall the apps you use least.
Third clear your browser cache. Go to settings/applications/manage applications then scroll till you see Browser click then "Clear Cache"
Forth and finally I would root the phone and uninstall some stock stuff you won't use.
Done.

Unless you're running 2.3.3

DeadlyDazza said:
Unless you're running 2.3.3
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You can still do the first 3

DeadlyDazza said:
Unless you're running 2.3.3
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or unless you got verizons play no root as of yet

[Q] Max size of app?

I just finished a new app that is about 32mb. I have 70mb of free space on my phone, but when I try to install the apk it says "not even space, could not install, please free up some space and try again." Even though the app is quite large, 70mb of space should be more than enough. Does anyone know why it won't install? Are apk's not allowed to be >30mb or something? This is the biggest app I've made so far so I haven't had to deal with this issue before, all of my other apps were less than 10mb.

It should have worked.
Here are the limits as I know it:
1. Android market allows a maximum of 50MB per apk.
2. Installing to SD card is also limited but I don't know the actual limit.
3. Installing to internal memory is limited to 50% of free memory.
Try adding android:installLocation="preferExternal" to your manifest file.
Disclaimer: things might have changed since the last time I checked, so I might be wrong.

roee88 said:
Try adding android:installLocation="preferExternal" to your manifest file.
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I would prefer: android:installLocation="auto" so one can choose where to install the app and you can do different tests. Anyway may attention: this could be used only for api level >8 (it seems it could be used even for OS <2.2 but I've not tested for it).

Hmm I'll try that. I might look into getting a new phone as well because this Desire is starting to feel outdated. Internal memory is so small that I have to uninstall an app almost every time I want to install a new one.

rpimps said:
Hmm I'll try that. I might look into getting a new phone as well because this Desire is starting to feel outdated. Internal memory is so small that I have to uninstall an app almost every time I want to install a new one.
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ever tried apps2sd?
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plants vs zombies apk is almost 75mb all on internal.

sweetnsour said:
ever tried apps2sd?
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What's the difference between apps2sd and just going into the default Android settings and transferring the apps to the sd?
The problem I have is most of the huge apps don't let you transfer them.

rpimps said:
What's the difference between apps2sd and just going into the default Android settings and transferring the apps to the sd?
The problem I have is most of the huge apps don't let you transfer them.
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if I remember correctly, apps2sd allows you to move the entire /data folder to your SD card (/data is what takes up your internal memory)
just search "desire apps2sd" and I'm sure youll find something
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Regaining device memory

Hey guys, I just deleted a whole bunch of photos and videos (all saved to my desktop PC first) and my available storage space went from 4.8 GB to 8.48 GB, so only 2 GB short of the 11.50 GB total space which is great.
About the device memory, it says available space 1.61 GB. How much device memory does the phone come with and if I want to regain memory, how do I do that?

You've already made a thread in the (correct) Q&A section, no need to make another here.
Device Memory?

oinkylicious said:
You've already made a thread in the (correct) Q&A section, no need to make another here.
Device Memory?
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Lol, who cares, honestly? Noone answered and it went to page 2. In the time it took you to write your reply you could probably have made an attempt to answer my question. Everyone's a moderator..

Device memory is about 2gb. Its a seperate part where apps are stored, so if you want to regain memery there delete apps. But you will only gain about 400mb max and have no apps.
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sxi200 said:
Device memory is about 2gb. Its a seperate part where apps are stored, so if you want to regain memery there delete apps. But you will only gain about 400mb max and have no apps.
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Thanks matey. Ah, in that case, I'm fine with 1.61GB if I'm only down from 2GB. I was more curious than anything else.
So all apps get installed to the 2GB device memory only, and the USB storage is only for storing media right?

Roman5 said:
So all apps get installed to the 2GB device memory only, and the USB storage is only for storing media right?
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No, lots of apps also store their data on SD.

Usb storage is external flashdrive if your using an usbOTG adapter.
The SgsII has mainly a 16Gb version although some have reported owning 32Gb versions. That comes down to about 1.8Gb for apps separate, and 11.5Gb for your data.
Some apps can be installed on the 11.5Gb partition. That mainly depends on the app itself.
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Robi-K said:
Usb storage is external flashdrive if your using an usbOTG adapter.
The SgsII has mainly a 16Gb version although some have reported owning 32Gb versions. That comes down to about 1.8Gb for apps separate, and 11.5Gb for your data.
Some apps can be installed on the 11.5Gb partition. That mainly depends on the app itself.
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Thats the thing, for what the partitioning table (PIT in Odin) is used.
On my phone:
aroung 500MB for the system
2GB for appdata
12.5GB for userdata
These are around 15GB, to be correct i must say 15GiB, because if you convert it to the normal space everyone is talking about, you will get 16GB.
(1GiB = 1,073GB)

Silberpfeil3110 said:
Thats the thing, for what the partitioning table (PIT in Odin) is used.
On my phone:
aroung 500MB for the system
2GB for appdata
12.5GB for userdata
These are around 15GB, to be correct i must say 15GiB, because if you convert it to the normal space everyone is talking about, you will get 16GB.
(1GiB = 1,073GB)
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Also I heard Samsung include the 1gb RAM as part of the 16gb storage ...
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[Q] how to increase ram of lg e400

hey some one told me that he increased the ram of his mobile phone by something named swapping so i want to know how to use swapping??

omarrm1999 said:
hey some one told me that he increased the ram of his mobile phone by something named swapping so i want to know how to use swapping??
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I don't say increase, but I know methods to make free ram
Use tiny gapps
Uninstall some native( unnecessary) apk's

Hey bro use roehsoft ram expander for increasing ram as it swaps memory as it is a paid app on google play
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