I'm using TWRP recovery on my s4, but I think it's garbage because of it's useless interface, it doesn't seem to let me slide when navigating my storage to find specific files, is too sensitive to a single touch, etc. So I'm wanting an alternative.
Are there any other recoveries which work well on the s4? I'm used to clockworkmod and 4ext since I have used both of them on my old phone, but I can't seem to find if they're any good on this phone or if they're even available yet.
Any suggestions or download links?
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I'm using TWRP recovery on my s4, but I think it's garbage because of it's useless interface, it doesn't seem to let me slide when navigating my storage to find specific files, is too sensitive to a single touch, etc. So I'm wanting an alternative.
Are there any other recoveries which work well on the s4? I'm used to clockworkmod and 4ext since I have used both of them on my old phone, but I can't seem to find if they're any good on this phone or if they're even available yet.
Any suggestions or download links?
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Hi,
OH how I wish there was a 4EXT option.
You are not alone in looking for a 100% reliable custom recovery.
Unfortunately , they do not appear to exist ,yet.
malybru said:
Hi,
OH how I wish there was a 4EXT option.
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This! The best there is!
Does the 4ext team do more than just HTC devices?
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Try philz touch recovery?
CWM from Chenglu http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279579
Works flawless and with exFat support :good:
So I've tried all but Ubouto or whatever its called.
The original CWM does seem to work very well but it has limited options. I have always thought the menus were haphazardly organized, like the way willing cache is on the main wipe screen but dalvik is in a separate 'advanced' menu. And there is no ability to mount USB in cwm. Or to save a nandroid to the external SD card if you start the process in recovery (rather than start from ROM Manager and elect the external SD card from the app). Also the text is REALLY small on the gs4.
Those things aside CWM is a workhorse. It ain't pretty but it gets the job done. And it doesn't fail. I don't honestly know if the touch version works for the gs4 yet.
Philztouch is pretty and much easier to use with the touch interface. Its very customizable to make the GUI look and work the way you need it to. But hints quirky still. Like you can mount the USB and it works, but after you are done you have to reboot back into recovery to do anything else. Mounting USB seems to kill all other functionality until a reboot. This is not a huge inconvenience. But it can be frustrating before you release a simple reboot cures it.
Twrp is the easiest to use with big huge buttons. But USB mounting doesn't work yet.
So none of them are perfect yet. But they are all also less than 2 months old so that is to be expected. This is in no way a complaint about any of these.
By the way, I use the t mobile variant of the gs4. User experience may vary on the 9505 or 9500
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As far as I know original CWM does not support exFat ... but it might have been changes recently ?
CWM from Chenglu does
Skipjacks said:
So I've tried all but Ubouto or whatever its called.
The original CWM does seem to work very well but it has limited options. I have always thought the menus were haphazardly organized, like the way willing cache is on the main wipe screen but dalvik is in a separate 'advanced' menu. And there is no ability to mount USB in cwm. Or to save a nandroid to the external SD card if you start the process in recovery (rather than start from ROM Manager and elect the external SD card from the app). Also the text is REALLY small on the gs4.
Those things aside CWM is a workhorse. It ain't pretty but it gets the job done. And it doesn't fail. I don't honestly know if the touch version works for the gs4 yet.
Philztouch is pretty and much easier to use with the touch interface. Its very customizable to make the GUI look and work the way you need it to. But hints quirky still. Like you can mount the USB and it works, but after you are done you have to reboot back into recovery to do anything else. Mounting USB seems to kill all other functionality until a reboot. This is not a huge inconvenience. But it can be frustrating before you release a simple reboot cures it.
Twrp is the easiest to use with big huge buttons. But USB mounting doesn't work yet.
So none of them are perfect yet. But they are all also less than 2 months old so that is to be expected. This is in no way a complaint about any of these.
By the way, I use the t mobile variant of the gs4. User experience may vary on the 9505 or 9500
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Skipjacks said:
So I've tried all but Ubouto or whatever its called.
The original CWM does seem to work very well but it has limited options. I have always thought the menus were haphazardly organized, like the way willing cache is on the main wipe screen but dalvik is in a separate 'advanced' menu. And there is no ability to mount USB in cwm. Or to save a nandroid to the external SD card if you start the process in recovery (rather than start from ROM Manager and elect the external SD card from the app). Also the text is REALLY small on the gs4.
Those things aside CWM is a workhorse. It ain't pretty but it gets the job done. And it doesn't fail. I don't honestly know if the touch version works for the gs4 yet.
Philztouch is pretty and much easier to use with the touch interface. Its very customizable to make the GUI look and work the way you need it to. But hints quirky still. Like you can mount the USB and it works, but after you are done you have to reboot back into recovery to do anything else. Mounting USB seems to kill all other functionality until a reboot. This is not a huge inconvenience. But it can be frustrating before you release a simple reboot cures it.
Twrp is the easiest to use with big huge buttons. But USB mounting doesn't work yet.
So none of them are perfect yet. But they are all also less than 2 months old so that is to be expected. This is in no way a complaint about any of these.
By the way, I use the t mobile variant of the gs4. User experience may vary on the 9505 or 9500
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Hi,
You can also use RECOVERY FLASHER
This will flash recoveries straight from your phone.
malybru said:
Hi,
You can also use RECOVERY FLASHER
This will flash recoveries straight from your phone.
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And if you get a flashable zip you can also flash a new recovery while you are in recovery.
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Skipjacks said:
This! The best there is!
Does the 4ext team do more than just HTC devices?
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Yes they do. Max (the developer) is working on getting the i9505 compatible, he says he hopes to get it released in the next couple months.
Check his website for more info.
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I'm looking to upgrade my phone to a custom ROM, but I'm not sure which one is the best for my needs. This is what I am looking for:
Fyro Update
Increased Phone Speed
Increased Battery Support
Adblock for browser and apps
Also, how do I flash my ROM? I have the drivers to connect my phone to my computer, and that's about as far as I got. Secondly, will I lose my apps and their data? I already have my contacts and SMS backed up.
Thanks guys
jt
As a shameless plug - I whole-heartedly recommend SyndicateROM. It'll fulfill three of your four features already (including ad blocking in apps and the browser), and when the OFFICIAL, FINAL (ACS prides itself on stability and feature-completeness) Froyo release is out, it will be updated right away!
That's actually the one I was looking at. Is there instructions on how to flash your ROM? Will I lose my apps and their data?
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
Epic Experience + Phoenix is the best battery life I've had on any ROM.
Performance feels like stock, which is to say, this phone is really fast just as is and I don't think its screaming for better performance out of the box. Its not like it feels sluggish like the Evo does.
All these devs do great work! You can't go wrong with any of these roms. This belongs in the General Discussions section!
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Streamline8 said:
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
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Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
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Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
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camera button, down volume and power on.
I suggest you try them all and figure out what you like or don't like. Also try out the ODIN program so when you accidentally bork your phone you will know how to fix it right away.
Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
Thanks, this should be the last question!
tuttjs said:
Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
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The only way you will wipe your SD card is if you partition it for A2SD support. The factory reset wipes all your data and might be a good idea if you are going from one rom/kernel to another. CWM backs up to your SD card. I have about 6 backups and can restore several different roms if I want. If you try all the roms out and make backups of all them it will be easy to go back to what you want.
A program called ROM Manager will make it easy to rename your backups.
hey
Can any tell me what is better Clockwork Mod installation or normal nand via DAF or is there any better way??
thanks
eddyy said:
hey
Can any tell me what is better Clockwork Mod installation or normal nand via DAF or is there any better way??
thanks
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well.. when you install an android rom trough DAF your doing it trough your computer.. while if you have clockwork mod installed you can just download the rom to your phone and install it.. PC is not needed. I think it's easier to use cloworkmod because i can just download it directly to my phone and install it
yea but you must also flash Clock work via PC to make it work.
Using DAF is much more simple and safer!
Dont know why so many roms now using complicated cwr to flash
zmaj59 said:
yea but you must also flash Clock work via PC to make it work.
Using DAF is much more simple and safer!
Dont know why so many roms now using complicated cwr to flash
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CWM is only flashed once using a PC and you just need to install zip builds via cwm.
Simpler and safer? Simpler, NO!!! What if you want to try at least 10 builds? Safer, that is questionable also.
FYI, CWM is not complicated. It can be done by a grade schooler who knows how to follow instructions.
Honestly I don't think either is better really. It's all about which is more convenient to you right now.
Personally, I use cwm because it's easier. I can just download the ROM straight to my phone and flash it from there. Also, it's a whole lot easier to apply updates without losing your user data which brings me on to my next point. Nanddroid backups are BAD ASS. I can set up however many different roms I want and whenever I want I can switch back and forth between them. It's great.
It is a little confusing to get used to at first, but if you take the time to do the research and read the tutorials you'll realize it was well worth it.
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Personally, I use cwm because it's easier. I can just download the ROM straight to my phone and flash it from there. Also, it's a whole lot easier to apply updates without losing your user data which brings me on to my next point. Nanddroid backups are BAD ASS. I can set up however many different roms I want and whenever I want I can switch back and forth between them. It's great.
It is a little confusing to get used to at first, but if you take the time to do the research and read the tutorials you'll realize it was well worth it.
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+1 on this.
It's a great convenience backup and restore wise, especially as it can all be done right there on the device wherever you are, out on the bus being bored, start playing with something, errors galore, no issue, hit clockwork and restore, 5 minute job
mmduluth said:
Personally, I use cwm because it's easier. I can just download the ROM straight to my phone and flash it from there. Also, it's a whole lot easier to apply updates without losing your user data which brings me on to my next point. Nanddroid backups are BAD ASS. I can set up however many different roms I want and whenever I want I can switch back and forth between them. It's great.
It is a little confusing to get used to at first, but if you take the time to do the research and read the tutorials you'll realize it was well worth it.
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I totally agree
CWM is a fail currently
I love the ability to flash q rom on the go wherever I am. The only problem is that some of these chefs wont cooks rom for the standard CMW partition. You Yvette to reflash CMW with slightly different values for different chefs roms.
Now you candidates use miui, a sense build or cyanogen with the same CMW setup. It defeats thepurpose. And makes it to involved switching roms. It basically makes CMW USELESS for switching roms.
CWM doesnt seem to work for me. Why do more cooks just do DFT?
Because its easier, and works for 99% of people if you follow directions,and also wrong section for this post.
actually just to thorw my thoughts there. i perfer DTF. i find it kind of disappointing that theres alot of CWM but not of DFT going on.
DEV's please do DFT along with your CWM!!! thank you
And to add to the posts above mine, flashing via cwm is standard on Android phones....
Cwm is way better imo. You need to use selected partitions with each build type. I say make em all flashable through cwm.
I don't get why some have issues with CWM. It's SO much simpler to use in long term operations or if you're a flashoholic. If you say it doesn't work for you, obviously you've done something wrong. Most of the time, it's all a question of having the right partition sizes. If you want ALL ROMs to be compatible, simply flash the 400Mb CWM partition layout and use App2SD+ if you have a leo. If you're a Gingerbread type of guy, flash the 150mb partition size and you're set! Personally what I do is 30mb cache, 120mb system and the rest for data.
Also, some people have issues with CWM because they most likely have issues with their flash. Easiest way to recover is to flash a stock WinMo ROM, restore SPL, format SD card and start all over again.
These forums have TONS of information on how to use CWM and get it up and running, so I don't get it...
yh I like CWM better. Just much neater I think.
Just my opinion
Plus you don't even need a computer. Also if your applying a theme and it messes up, you can just flash your recovery. Dft if you mess up you have to start over.
maybe the reason why i have not tried the CWM is beacuse of the partions stuff. i really dont get it.... and i have gotten fast at setting up ym phone. all my usefull apps are backed up on a box.net account just download and install. no problem. so yeah.
DFT all the way, until sooner or later all of them will be CWM and ill have to change over to it eventually... btu int he mean time DFT!
CWM..........it is!!
CWM is definatly easier. I will admit I was reluctant at first to switch from DFT. Old habits die hard I suppose. But now I can download a new rom and flash it from anywhere. And the backup is awesome to have!! Besides the roms are usually easier to put together for the dev's too. However, the one drawback, IMHO, is different roms require different partition sizes. If CWM were flashable from magldr, or a one size fits all standard were created this would eliminate the need for a pc connection all together.
Clockworkmod benefits=
1. You can make a FULL backup
2. You can make a FULL restore
3. You can wipe each individual part (data, system, sd-ext etc.)
4. You can flash other mods very easily
5. You can do EVERYTHING from your phone including download & flashing the ROM
6. You can wipe dalvik cache and normal cache to save space
7. You can format or partition your SD-card
8. You can store as many ROM's on your SD card to flash at a later time as you want
9. Which is most important!! you can update to a newer version of your favorite ROM without losing ONE THING!!
10. You can fix permissions and wipe battery stats
These are just 10 things I just thought of on the top of my head lol. I think most people don't like it because they haven't gave it long enough of a chance. If your coming from another Android device like me that had Clockworkmod then you couldn't live without it!! I can't think of ONE reason that MAGLDR builds are better than "flashable zips". This is just my opinion
@moto +1 - my man!
About partitions..... only thing u need to know about it is....
Look at the rom u want to flash. You need to know the size of it after it is unzipped. Think of your phone as a box. And your rom as what u want to get in the box. Your not going to fit a sense rom in a 150 mb. partition "box" because its just to big 200+mb. So get a bigger box. Use the 400mb box. If you have a non tmobile hd2 u will need more space to pack your apps and userdata into. Your rom is the first thing in the box and its already almost full, so once your phone starts packing your apps and userdata into the box it gets full really fast. This is where apps2sd and sdcard partitions come into play, think of it as strapping a smaller box ontop of your 400mb box and shipping for the same price. Basically make sure your box (partition) is big enough to fit all your **** in. Easy cheesy!!!!
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motoman234 said:
Clockworkmod benefits=
1. You can make a FULL backup
2. You can make a FULL restore
3. You can wipe each individual part (data, system, sd-ext etc.)
4. You can flash other mods very easily
5. You can do EVERYTHING from your phone including download & flashing the ROM
6. You can wipe dalvik cache and normal cache to save space
7. You can format or partition your SD-card
8. You can store as many ROM's on your SD card to flash at a later time as you want
9. Which is most important!! you can update to a newer version of your favorite ROM without losing ONE THING!!
10. You can fix permissions and wipe battery stats
These are just 10 things I just thought of on the top of my head lol. I think most people don't like it because they haven't gave it long enough of a chance. If your coming from another Android device like me that had Clockworkmod then you couldn't live without it!! I can't think of ONE reason that MAGLDR builds are better than "flashable zips". This is just my opinion
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+1 Best explanation about CWM, DFT is good to start form scratch. Go with CWM and you never look back.
I just CAN'T believe it!!! People keep asking the same question everyday....
How disappointing...
Anyone left with working brain cells??
LOL
bigdookie said:
CWM doesnt seem to work for me. Why do more cooks just do DFT?
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It's all a conspiracy, the devs all got togehter and said if they only build CWM builds then bigdookie won't be able to flash any of the builds LOL
Seriously though, CWM is so easy to use (besides the benefits pointed out by motoman) - especially if you're on magldr 1.13 - just decide what partition size you need for your zip rom (usually specified in the rom thread) and flash it - you even get to use DAF to flash the partition, so you shouldn't have any problem
To access CWM, in magldr menu go to AD Recovery and you are in Recovery mode.
I just started using CWM and love it,my main question is this. if i try a rom i like, get it all set up and working, and then make a backup in cwm, do i need to keep the copy of the zipped rom on my card, or is the backup enough?
along those same lines, if i try a second rom, and then get it set up and do a backup, can i just restore from the previous roms cmw backup file, or do i have to reflash the previous rom and then do the restore?
just curious, cuz i like trying different roms, but i want to keep a "safety" restore point no matter what rom i switch to.
I hope this makes sense?
Thanks in advance.
dezaras6 said:
I just started using CWM and love it,my main question is this. if i try a rom i like, get it all set up and working, and then make a backup in cwm, do i need to keep the copy of the zipped rom on my card, or is the backup enough?
along those same lines, if i try a second rom, and then get it set up and do a backup, can i just restore from the previous roms cmw backup file, or do i have to reflash the previous rom and then do the restore?
just curious, cuz i like trying different roms, but i want to keep a "safety" restore point no matter what rom i switch to.
I hope this makes sense?
Thanks in advance.
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The backup will contain everything you need to do a full restore. You can trash the zip of the rom. If you need it again for some reason just download it again. You can have as many different backups as your sdcard can hold. They are saved in the clockwork folder by date and time. By the way your sdcard will fill up fast doing 4 or 5 backups so don't be alarmed when it is suddenly full, just go delete old ones. Or do like me and tape another 16gb sdcard under your battery cover(fits perfectly on top of the sim card with a lil hanging out over the battery). Flash away. Also...... we are all posting in a thread that is in the wrong section
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Okay, so you all CWM fans jsut might have agained a new member to the fan club. But i got a question. I have a US HD2. which partion should be best for me?
Just got a GTab 2 7.0 a few days ago. A P3113, so only 8GB of storage, about half of which is the ROM and crap apps. I've rooted before (had a KF 1st gen when it came out), and just wondering about a few things with the GTab:
Right now, I don't mind the stock ROM so much. There are problem things that would be "nice to have", but right now, would like to generally stay as "stock" as possible. That being said, I'd still like to "de-crap" the ROM to free up some storage space, and I assume that might lead to it running a bit better, since so much seems to just pop-in while running other apps. So:
I know I need to root first, so my first question - how reliable is that? I'm on a Mac, but have access to a netbook running Win7, so could run Odin to "get things done". I'd hate to brick the thing, still having 51 weeks of warranty left. (I also understand that I might want to install something else to keep the flash count from showing it's been flashed).
Once root'ed, is it better to use one of the "de-crapped" ROMs floating around? And if so, which seems "best" (yeah, I know the moderators hate the "which is best" - I'm looking for stock - and STABLE)
Or, is it better to eliminate the apps myself? (Not sure if this is a wholesale "rm" to remove certain apps from a terminal app, using adb, or if they have some uninstallers embedded somewhere, or...) - so better to use one of the ROMs floating around?
Is the GTab 2 "stable", so even if you trash a ROM, you can still get into the ROM manager to restore a previously working, or stock, ROM?
I'll probably come up with a couple more questions, especially depending on the replies... TIA
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
aisais said:
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Thanks - I plan to use Clean Master. Allows me to be selective about what I remove/move, instead of getting a ROM from someone and they removed the ONE THING I really wanted.
Ok, got it rooted and CWM installed.
HOWEVER, when I boot into CWM, I DON'T see an option to backup my ROM (I've used TWRP before on my KF, so the menu is different).
What I've got on my screen in CWM:
Android system recover <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
That's it. Where's the option to do a ROM backup? Oh, used file P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip Had CWM and Root all in one. I do have GT-P3113_ClockworkMod-Recovery_6.0.1.0.tar as well. Should I just go through procedure again to flash this CWM? Will it still retain SU?
nandroid backup ok to use? Seems it's just a wrapper for a backup script...
Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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That's exactly what I did today, grabbed the stock image for a backup, rooted with Odin and CWM then flashed a CM based 4.3 ROM. Piece of cake.
Hi guys, i've broken my Galaxy s4 lcd some day ago, and yesterday i've decided to sell it on ebay.
But now i have to wipe it. The problem is that i am running a custom Touchwiz rom and Philz touch recovery. So i don't think i can use Kies to make a factory reset.
I can use Odin to flash a stock image etc... But i don't know how to solve completely my problems.
Can someone help me? Thx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41392134
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DeepankarS said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41392134
Take help from this
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
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Thank you for the replay.
However, the Galaxy S4 doesn't have fastboot mode, but only download mode and recovery mode, so I don't know how to use the commands...
OmniSlyfer said:
Thank you for the replay.
However, the Galaxy S4 doesn't have fastboot mode, but only download mode and recovery mode, so I don't know how to use the commands...
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Odin will fix it.
Flash the stock ronin Odin. All your user data will be (sort of) removed.
A skilled user could still recover your user data' but most people won't even know its there.
You will not need the phone's screen to work at any point in the Odin process.
Skipjacks said:
Odin will fix it.
Flash the stock ronin Odin. All your user data will be (sort of) removed.
A skilled user could still recover your user data' but most people won't even know its there.
You will not need the phone's screen to work at any point in the Odin process.
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Oh ok perfect
I've just finished to flash the stock rom, I hope evrything worked fine. I'll try to install Kies3 to see if I can maybe do another wipe or something else to delete definately all my data inside (including photos etc...). Any suggestions?
OmniSlyfer said:
Oh ok perfect
I've just finished to flash the stock rom, I hope evrything worked fine. I'll try to install Kies3 to see if I can maybe do another wipe or something else to delete definately all my data inside (including photos etc...). Any suggestions?
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Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
Skipjacks said:
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Hahahahahahah
Skipjacks said:
Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Ahahah. Thank you so much for the explanation
I think the buyer will find some photos of me in the phone, i hope he will not die coz of my ugly face
I think this thread can be closed.
Skipjacks said:
Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Since Google implemented Trim in Android 4.3, it's impossible (as of yet) to recover deleted data. I tried several guides here on XDA on data recovery and none of them work anymore.
See for example this article.
http://forensic.belkasoft.com/en/why-ssd-destroy-court-evidence
So basically if you delete a file or format your system, the data is really gone.
Lennyz1988 said:
Since Google implemented Trim in Android 4.3, it's impossible (as of yet) to recover deleted data. I tried several guides here on XDA on data recovery and none of them work anymore.
See for example this article.
http://forensic.belkasoft.com/en/why-ssd-destroy-court-evidence
So basically if you delete a file or format your system, the data is really gone.
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That article was one of the most awesome nerdy things I ever read. I had no idea about the garbage collectors on solid state memory.
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That article was one of the most awesome nerdy things I ever read. I had no idea about the garbage collectors on solid state memory.
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From my experience, flashing stock firmware with Kies DOES NOT wipe the user data/files from phones SD card. I have to always do factory reset from stock recovery to wipe it.
tomtro74 said:
From my experience, flashing stock firmware with Kies DOES NOT wipe the user data/files from phones SD card. I have to always do factory reset from stock recovery to wipe it.
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It wont ever wipe the external sd card
The internal sd card should depend on the tar file and if it formats that partition or not.
I never really paid attention to it myself because I have never had to flash a full stock restore on my S4 so I have no idea what the standard for S4 firmwares is.
The internal data partition though should be wiped with a full stock firmware in odin every single time.
Skipjacks said:
It wont ever wipe the external sd card
The internal sd card should depend on the tar file and if it formats that partition or not.
I never really paid attention to it myself because I have never had to flash a full stock restore on my S4 so I have no idea what the standard for S4 firmwares is.
The internal data partition though should be wiped with a full stock firmware in odin every single time.
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Well, it's not. Believe me. I used to flash stock rom on S4 number of times and I can confirm that flashing stock rom with Odin DOES NOT WIPE any user data. Your photos and other files stays intact as well as the apss ( you may loose some apps internal data ) until factory reset is performed either from stock recovery or from rom itself.
tomtro74 said:
Well, it's not. Believe me. I used to flash stock rom on S4 number of times and I can confirm that flashing stock rom with Odin DOES NOT WIPE any user data. Your photos and other files stays intact as well as the apss ( you may loose some apps internal data ) until factory reset is performed either from stock recovery or from rom itself.
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Well how about that.....you learn something new every day!
OmniSlyfer said:
Hi guys, i've broken my Galaxy s4 lcd some day ago, and yesterday i've decided to sell it on ebay.
But now i have to wipe it. The problem is that i am running a custom Touchwiz rom and Philz touch recovery. So i don't think i can use Kies to make a factory reset.
I can use Odin to flash a stock image etc... But i don't know how to solve completely my problems.
Can someone help me? Thx
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if your S4 opens, just connect it to the PC and then the internal memory will appear
delete whatever you wants