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another battery thing to try

found this on another site don't know if it has any relevance since i just tried it but will keep you posted:
Disclaimer: the following may *not* to the HTC EVO! And yes, of course we should NEVER have to deal with this kind of kluge. But it might help…
There’s a known bug in the cell radio software on at least one other HTC Android phone (Eris) that can significantly reduce battery life. Basically, it thinks it doesn’t have a signal (though it’s connected) and frequently keeps trying to connect, which steadily drains the battery, even when the phone is apparently idle.
To check if this is affecting your phone:
From the home screen, press Menu, Settings.
Scroll down to the bottom and press About Phone.
Press Battery
Press Battery Use
Press Cell Standby.
Take a look at Time Without Signal. If it’s 0% or a bit higher, then your phone is not affected and you can stop reading. If it’s 50% or significantly higher than you know it should be (e.g. you were in cell range all or most of the time), then the phone is being affected by this problem. BTW, Time Without Signal may not be displayed in some circumstances – try again later. AFAIK, all HTC Eris’s are affected, not sure about other phones.
The good news is that there’s a simple way to fix it (usually called the Airplane Mode trick):
Power your phone off and then restart it.
Once it’s fully booted, plug in the charger.
From the Home screen, press Menu, Settings and Wireless & Networks.
Press Airplane Mode and wait until it’s checked and back to full brightness.
Unplug the charger.
Press Airplane mode and make sure that it’s unchecked.
That’s it!

Will this fix cut down down on searching for a cell signal? Can anyone verify thi works?

Trying this now. Will report back in a few hours.

It doesn't make any sense, but I think this might have worked. I tried this about 4 hours ago and I'm still at 0%. I was getting as much as 50% without service. I'll report back again after I have some more time to test it.

I'm at 10 hours now and it's still at 0%. I don't know why this works, but it appears to actually work. I was even able to turn on always on data with no negative battery consumption since I don't really have much auto-syncing.
Thank you very much OP.

biscodude said:
I'm at 10 hours now and it's still at 0%. I don't know why this works, but it appears to actually work. I was even able to turn on always on data with no negative battery consumption since I don't really have much auto-syncing.
Thank you very much OP.
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Same here, went from 4:00pm yesterday to 5:00am this morning and still had 50% battery. Watched some trailers, used a flashlight app ( alot, thanks to being without power till this morning), did some texting, and was watching weather radar. My time without a signal is staying at 0% also.
Thanks also.

Here's an easier way to do this from a previous post. FYI - I did this a few days ago. Here's my current battery test stats (I'm letting it drain itself out and see how long I can go).
Uptime: 32 Hours, 45 Minutes
Awake Time: 4 Hours, 30 Minutes
It has not been on a charger since it was last fully charged. Love it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601&highlight=battery

Wow, my stand by was at 58%, though I am inside a building with horrible reception, I sure hope this fixes it.

Will this fix be permanent or will I have to do this every time I plug the phone back in or after reboot?

Ketty said:
Will this fix be permanent or will I have to do this every time I plug the phone back in or after reboot?
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The original thread stated it had to be done every time, but mine has stuck since I changed it using the method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601&highlight=battery.
One other thing to note: If you download the app in the Market called "Network", you can access the screen to change it without having to do the dialing or airplane mode thing. This would be the easiest way to do it if you happen to have to do it every time you reboot.
Final stats:
Uptime: 35:15
Awake Time: 5:15
This is about twice as good as I was getting before.

[Q] A500 shutting off overnight while charging!!

I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?

bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-

Did u find how to fix this?

I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.

I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.

i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet

Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-

I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that

Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast

Lets run some tests, shall we?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
Solving the problem:
I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.

I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.

Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles

re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.

JiggaGeazY said:
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.

should i return this iconia?

Hello all,
I bought my iconia tab last Tues. I am a big fan of android. But I have used an I pad since they were released. Now I'm not going to make comparisons, but I'm thinking I may have received a bad unit. Or maybeothers can verify my findings.
Battery life is horrible.
I barely get 4 hours of use before I need to go running for the charger.
Random shutdowns and reboot.
Unit will shutdown at random, even when I'm using it. And it reboot any time it loses a wifi source. Ex. I have a mobile hotspot. If I shut the hotspot off, the iconia will reboot when it loses the signal.
Screen on/off all day.
When I put the unit in standby, the screen turns on and off about evey 2 minutes.
Laggy keyboard.
Even as I type this, the keyboard is extremly laggy.
I am running this unit stock now, nothing extra has been installed.
I even did a factory reset and hard reset.
Ii have not received any updates, although I check all the time. I'm still on the 1.104. Build.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

from your description, yeah, you should probably return this unit...

just return my device is not that bad, battery last 1 day with normal use, never random shut down
the only thing i got troubled with is screen on/off , that is solved by pressing powerr button several times, very annoying actuallly

I've gotten 2 days of moderate use, I usually charge every night but unless I'm playing games for hours at a time I'm usually @ 40% before I plug in.
If the tab is rebooting on a frequent basis, particularly if you can do it on demand, definitely return it.
The screen random on should be fixed by the .141 update

I don't want to start anything but when i read "Should I return it?" and your posting it in this forum, then most likely the person posting it (if you found this forum) knows a little about it. But to read, it shuts off, battery life is terrible, etc..
I dont use it all day but i will use it with lowest brightness, 1 min timeout, and i dont use twitter or play movies, but get like 5-8 days on a charge.. NOW, one key thing, i turn the power OFF when done using it and does hold the battery much better (I never tried airplane mode)..
Never mind, got off on a rant from the thread...unrelated, there are some very cool news apps that are out now for HC.

Ok. Returned it for a fresh unit. Letting it get a full charge before I do anything with it.
Fyi. Previous unit only gave me 4 hours. Regardless if I was using it or it was sitting in standby.
Does anyone know of a way to get the 141 update without rooting?
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

BadGrim said:
Ok. Returned it for a fresh unit. Letting it get a full charge before I do anything with it.
Fyi. Previous unit only gave me 4 hours. Regardless if I was using it or it was sitting in standby.
Does anyone know of a way to get the 141 update without rooting?
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
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For the first time since I bought it I haven't used my device for a day. In around 22 hours of standby it lost 3% battery.
So draining in 4 hours in standby sounds completly defective to me.

when I got mine
battery was at 50%
I used it during the day, and when the battery was arround 5% I did a full charge
- regular usage : 1day ++
- working usage : 8 hours (web apps dev...)
4 hours, use it or not it's awfull...
Wish you got better now

interqd said:
just return my device is not that bad, battery last 1 day with normal use, never random shut down
the only thing i got troubled with is screen on/off , that is solved by pressing powerr button several times, very annoying actuallly
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What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!

iqbalbaskara said:
What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!
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Yes, the screen would randomy turn on/off while in standby.
The other. The tablet would actually power off while i was using it, not just th screen, the entire thing.

iqbalbaskara said:
What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!
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its turning on randomly while standby, usually i have to pres power button 3 or 4 times before it went off without turning on again...
i think its not possible to return to the store here, just take to the service centre... but i dont know if they will give new device.. as i know here only apple , blackberry and samsung that will give new device if found defective ..

"Show low low battery logo" Nexus 7 thinks battery is dead even when fully charged!

"Show low low battery logo" Nexus 7 thinks battery is dead even when fully charged!
I have already got a replacement on order from the Play Store but since I haven't seen any reports on this after plenty of searching I figured I'd describe the issue.
My 16gb Nexus 7 worked pretty much flawlessly for the first several days of pretty light use minus very minimal flicker on occasion. As of two days ago the unit is basically unusable as it randomly but excessively decides that the battery is dead even though it is fully charged. The first several times this happened I wasn't paying attention and I thought it just shut off by itself, but then I started to watch it more closely but it also started happening more and more. As of this morning it will not stay on more than 5 minutes before it audibly notifies a low battery with the messages "Connect Charger" and "Powering down". Sometimes it will give two options "Battery" and "OK" but I was never able to actually get the buttons to respond because it would already be shutting down. Other times it will just show the connect charger and powering down messages with no buttons which is strange, but in either case the device shuts down.
Once I started troubleshooting I figured out a little more information.
Watching the lock screen while it is charging I will see it go from it's (I think) correct charge percent to 0% randomly.
While not charging it will either show a red battery indicator in the notification area or just an empty battery when it decides to shut down
Sometimes it will boot right up and be back up to regular charge level (of course just to shut down again within a few minutes)
Other times it will not boot up and I noticed the error message (almost like a debug prompt mistakenly left in the code) in the upper left corner "Show low low battery logo" + some strange symbol like when you get 100 1-Ups in Super Mario Brothers . Yes the message has the word "low" twice - I guess this is lower than standard low!
Anyway, kinda bummed but since I have not seen any other report of this particular issue I'm hopeful that the replacement will not have the same problem. I'm just hoping I don't get a unit that has some of the other problems being reported so I'm crossing my fingers.

Mine started doing the same this morning
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This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).

omnikai said:
This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).
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Yours sounds like a similar but different issue. My N7 dies regardless of how much charge it has. It can have 100% charge and within 5 minutes it will report 0% charge and die. Then when I can get it to boot again it will be back up to 99% charge again. I can't get more than 10 minutes of use before it dies regardless of how much charge it truly has.

omnikai said:
This sounds pretty similar to my problem from another thread. Every time it hits 25% while discharging it dies. Normally I'd say it's just a software calibration issue and fixable by wiping battery stats, but I've wiped several times at 100% and run down to 25% and it still dies.
Do you find that you still get a normal amount of battery life before it dies? It'd help to establish whether this is the battery misreporting, or actually not discharging properly.
* Strangely this time after my N7 had died at 25% I turned it on and it's at 0% battery. It's been charging for ~15min and it still says 0%... When you all first got the device, did you let it run to 0%, or did you charge it right away?
** And now, after almost an hour, it's at 1%. Seems to be charging, but brutally slowly (and I'm using the bundled charger, not PC USB).
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I'm starting to have this same issue, however mine goes at about 19%. Just turns off. I have also seen the show low battery in white text thing. I have tried calibrating by fully charging then deleting batterystats.bin from data/system and letting it decharge and it still died around there, I'm recharging again to 100 to see what happens this next time I let it go... thought mine was issue free than this happens

Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
** Just wanted to edit and say its now decharging normally dont know what caused it to spazz out or fix it one of those ghost in the machine android moments

NeoMagus said:
Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
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Replacement N7 seems to be fine thusfar...

Apparently, somebody in StackExchange is having the same issue as well:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/27222/nexus-7-system-error-show-low-battery-logo

if anyone else gets this, try disconnecting the battery and then re connect and see if that fixes it. i had same type of issue on viewsonic g-tab and that was the required fix.

Mine did it at 10%, calibrated the battery and im getting truly awesome battery life 2 full days without a charge
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This is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
You need to be rooted
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Same problem here when battery reaches 24% whole tab dies...
Did someone fixed it?

egomezmorales said:
Mine did it at 10%, calibrated the battery and im getting truly awesome battery life 2 full days without a charge
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This is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
You need to be rooted
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While this reply is late to the game, it needs to be pointed out that such apps are 100% snake oil and do not calibrate the battery. They are based upon gross misinformation and any dev that tells you that clearing batterystats.bin has any effect on battery life or reported battery charge clearly doesn't know how Android works.
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Beekhouse said:
Same problem here when battery reaches 24% whole tab dies...
Did someone fixed it?
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Have you fixed this yet cos mine does the same?

I had been having the same problems that everyone described: would suddenly die at 25% and wouldn't turn back on unless I gave it a charge for a bit and then held the power button down for a while.
For the last 2 weeks, I've been charging it only with the stock charger and that seems to have fixed it. Previously I would charge with any charger I had around.
Not sure if it's a permanent fix but it's working now (I've taken it down to 4% before charging it back up).

AdamK123 said:
I had been having the same problems that everyone described: would suddenly die at 25% and wouldn't turn back on unless I gave it a charge for a bit and then held the power button down for a while.
For the last 2 weeks, I've been charging it only with the stock charger and that seems to have fixed it. Previously I would charge with any charger I had around.
Not sure if it's a permanent fix but it's working now (I've taken it down to 4% before charging it back up).
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I only use the stock charger on mine but after this happened so often I tried another one and battery charged OK but then kept blipping from say 50% to 54%, went bed with it at 49% and this morning dead again. Charged it again today on stock charger and waiting to see what happens.

Sorry all for this bump.
I just got this same issue tonight on stock, unrooted nexus 7 16gb and I only use the stock charger, I let it die through battery and then when I charged it amend turned it on, all these problems happened.
One symptom that hasn't been mentioned is that the clock is set back to January 1st 1am.
I managed to get it to start without turning off by holding the power button until the Google logo showed twice, at the moment it's on but charging.
Hope this doesn't become a problem again in the future.

NeoMagus said:
Well in case anyone else runs into this, I have no idea what caused this or how I got out of it thinking it was dead at 20%. I tried deleting the stats, reflashed stock and then CM10 and back again, tried a different kernel, and still died at 20 and gave me the "low low battery logo".
I just took it into Gamestop where I got it and started the process for an exchange, so I have another one coming now. Go figure when I got home I plugged it back in, and now this time just like omnikai said instead of being at 20% it was at 0 when I turned it on. Been a while and now and seems to be charging normally so hopefully it will decharge fine.. either way really weird only problem I've had with mine so far
** Just wanted to edit and say its now decharging normally dont know what caused it to spazz out or fix it one of those ghost in the machine android moments
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I am currently having the 20% problem. Did your tablet reaminworking normally since the self correction?

A Probable solution to the nexus 7 dying at 15% + charge
dbstrat said:
I have already got a replacement on order from the Play Store but since I haven't seen any reports on this after plenty of searching I figured I'd describe the issue.
My 16gb Nexus 7 worked pretty much flawlessly for the first several days of pretty light use minus very minimal flicker on occasion. As of two days ago the unit is basically unusable as it randomly but excessively decides that the battery is dead even though it is fully charged. The first several times this happened I wasn't paying attention and I thought it just shut off by itself, but then I started to watch it more closely but it also started happening more and more. As of this morning it will not stay on more than 5 minutes before it audibly notifies a low battery with the messages "Connect Charger" and "Powering down". Sometimes it will give two options "Battery" and "OK" but I was never able to actually get the buttons to respond because it would already be shutting down. Other times it will just show the connect charger and powering down messages with no buttons which is strange, but in either case the device shuts down.
Once I started troubleshooting I figured out a little more information.
Watching the lock screen while it is charging I will see it go from it's (I think) correct charge percent to 0% randomly.
While not charging it will either show a red battery indicator in the notification area or just an empty battery when it decides to shut down
Sometimes it will boot right up and be back up to regular charge level (of course just to shut down again within a few minutes)
Other times it will not boot up and I noticed the error message (almost like a debug prompt mistakenly left in the code) in the upper left corner "Show low low battery logo" + some strange symbol like when you get 100 1-Ups in Super Mario Brothers . Yes the message has the word "low" twice - I guess this is lower than standard low!
Anyway, kinda bummed but since I have not seen any other report of this particular issue I'm hopeful that the replacement will not have the same problem. I'm just hoping I don't get a unit that has some of the other problems being reported so I'm crossing my fingers.
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I recently started having the same problem with my 2 month old rooted Nexus 7 (wifi only) . It was dying at about 19% - 23% charge . Tried doing the battery recallibration at 100% charge, even wiped the device clean and flashed the Jellybean 4.2 factory image but it didn't work.
I talked with the ASUS service center guys to get it fixed, and created a sort of guest user so that I won't have to disconnect my accounts. After that my problem seems to have been fixed. I discharged it to about 4% and then put it to charge, it's charging properly now so I am hoping the problem has been fixed.
I am not sure whether this would work for everybody, but I guess it's worth a try.

[Q] Battery Drain When Powered Off

Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1

It takes power to turn the phone on. 15% might be a little much but it is not unlikely.
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15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?

tengen said:
15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?
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Battery life has actually been decent, I think I'm getting better usage than my old HTC Desire Z with extended battery. I'm not a heavy user, though I have been using it for music at work.

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dapprman said:
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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It takes a huge amount of battery power to start the phone from complete off, this also skews the first reading of the battery voltage as it will be lowered by the draw of power to start the phone so the indicator will read lower than it's true capacity.
The best solution is just put your phone in airplane mode at night, and turn airplane mode off in the morning, this is more power efficient than shutting the phone down using "power off", and you shouldn't see any battery drain apart from a percent or so doing this.
Regards
Phil

You can tell you guys never turn your phones off Starting up should have no battery drain - never been an issue on any of my previous phones and PDAs (last one also being Android).
I rang Google and they had never seen it before but recommended draining then fully charging the battery.
Friday night I made sur it was fully charged before unplugging and shutting down - next morning on turning on - 99% - result. Saturday/Sunday the same (note SAturday i fully drained then recharged the battery). This morning boots up with just 82%.
Looks like either it can't work out when it's fully charged, else there's some disharge mechanism in place to protect the battery and that's causing me issues.

It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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I was just about to start a thread on this and then saw this thread here. So I'll ask here. I travel overseas a lot. So while I am on the plane I plug the phone in while off to charge it. I hit the power button occasionally to check the charge and when it shows "Full" I unplug it and throw it in my bag.
2 days later, I come back to the US and turn the phone on and the battery is usually below 50% even though it stated it was fully charged when I unplugged it.
So how does the battery drain if the phone is off?

I just sent my first Nexus 4 in for RMA on this very issue (if left for long enough it would just fully discharge), got the replacement on Friday, did a charge cycle, charged the phone fully up whilst off, took it off the charger (the official Nexus charger btw), and let it sit for the last day, just turned it on, and it's at 60%.... W T F !!!
This is sooo totally bizarre! I can only assume that this is common to most Nexus 4 (what are the odds of me getting two bad ones - direct from Google - with the exact the same issue?), and that people just aren't noticing, as most people don't leave their phones off after fully charging, and thus just never notice, as the battery behaves perfectly normally under usual use.
I would gratefully appreciate it if people could put this to the test, so I know whether or not to RMA the second device or not....

dapprman said:
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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Are you using a custom rom, maybe its only sleeping.

Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...

knowayback said:
Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...
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Why not just leave it charging when it's off..

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It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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Nah - I tested it multiple times on my first phone. One time I left it for over two days and the battery went from "reporting 100%" to being under 10% whilst turned off!! Also on all the charges - I deliberately would leave the phone on the charger for multiple hours, even after it was reporting 100%, as I had the same suspicion. Often I'd leave it to charge overnight...
I have never had this issue with any other phone, or with my Nexus 7 (which I have subsequently tested in this respect, and it is perfectly capable of holding a charge whilst off)
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joshnichols189 said:
Why not just leave it charging when it's off..
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It's not so much that it's a practical issue, it's more that I'm worried that it might indicative of a larger hardware based defect, and I'm not happy spending my hard earned cash on faulty goods.
If it's a very common complaint/fault then I won't bother to RMA the second one, but if I'm just ridiculously unlucky, and very few people are experiencing this totally weird behaviour, then I'll take my chances on a third...
Also, I don't think it's too much to ask to be able to turn my phone off to prevent it from losing any more charge. I can think of a plethora of scenarios where this would be extremely useful...

I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.

dapprman said:
I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.
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I agree on all counts apart from the first, as my nexus 7 and my Mum's Nexus 10 behave totally normally in this respect, both on 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 (both stock/unrooted, although the Nexus 7 was rooted/bl-unlocked for a time).
Also, I don't believe it's a miss reading of the battery state, as I often leave the device charging for multiple hours after it reports 100%, by which point it simply must be fully charged. What's more - if you leave the device off for long enough it will fully discharge! The craziest thing is that the phone's battery seems to drain quicker when it's 'turned off", than when it's powered on and sleeping. Seriously WTF.
It must be something to do with either the LG hardware, or LG specific code in the Google ROM. Obviously the phone is incapable of properly shutting down, which is pretty crappy for a so called "flagship" device. As someone who likes to have full control of their device, I find it more than a wee bit irksome, that I don't have the ability to completely shutdown my phone! This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue, although I guess I could try a custom ROM and see if it still happens.... however I don't really wanna root & rom if I'm going to RMA it....
I'm really interested to know how many other people have this defect and don't even realise it, because their phone is either in use or charging! I find it hard to believe that I could be unlucky enough to have got two uniquely defective devices in a row...
I'd really appreciate it if people could check their devices for this issue, both on stock and custom ROMs, see if we can work out whether it's HW or SW related...

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This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue
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You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.

USSENTERNCC1701E said:
You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.
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That's a good point. Mine came out of the box at about 80%.... hmmm. It could be that once it's first turned on it won't turn off again... this is such an odd issue! I shall try powering off from the bootloader next time, I'd still love to hear if other people's phones exhibit this anomaly though...
I'm aware that it's hard to believe issue, but there's only one way to find out...
I'm also very curious to know if loading a custom rom might solve it. I'm far less concerned if it's a software issue, I just don't want to have spend £250 on defective hardware.

I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...

usafle said:
I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...
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Ha - me too! With the first one, I actually went into a weird sort of denial, where I kept convincing myself that I must of got it wrong, it just seemed so absurd! Eventually I put it to the test (multiple times) and realized that my memory wasn't as bad as I'd been trying to persuade myself and the phone was in fact discharging when "off".
Anyone else?
Just got the update to 4.2.2 and have got my fingers firmly crossed that it's now a squished bug... although somehow I think it's more likely an LG/hardware issue...

What you could try to do it charge the battery to 100%, hold the power button for 10 seconds until it fully shuts itself off. Leave it overnight and see the battery level is at the next day.