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Is google music mature enough to replace onboard memory?

I, like most people, have a large music collection which goes beyond the onboard memory of a nexus 4.
It's clear that google is trying to push people into using their cloud services which is fine, as long as it works. Now I live in the UK and in my experience 3G coverage is good, and i'm lucky to be on the unlimited Three network which offers very generous data speeds.
Does anyone here rely on the play music service and does it do a good job? Do songs load up fast? Is it going to turn listening to music into a very battery intensive experience?
cheers guys
Nick

After you upload your music to the cloud, streaming is relatively painless. I'm on T-Mobile HSPA+ and its pretty much instantaneous. I'd still prefer a UI like Winamp, but I can deal with Google Music's. Also regarding battery life, of course it would take a hit as you're streaming mobile data, it seems to drain the same amount of battery as when i use Spotify on my S3. As for the N4, who knows

I'm curious about this. Wouldn't you need unlimited data for Google music?
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I'm in the UK too and I use Spotify for all my needs. You can combine your music collection with theirs, and easily change which albums are synced from your desktop/laptop to the pc for offline use. All of the Spotify music collection is also available for streaming use.

kefloxin said:
I'm curious about this. Wouldn't you need unlimited data for Google music?
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Unlimited data would be great for it but not entirely necessary. I had high quality streaming on for about 2 weeks and used up just over 3 gb of data, and I'd say I did a fair bit of listening, probably at least an hour a day if not more. I'm trying turning off the high quality streaming now as I only have 6 gb of data, so far it seems to use a little less. Streaming is seamless though, even when I have only 1 or 2 bars of signal. it may take about 5 seconds or so for the song to start playing if you skip a couple songs (if you let it play the next planned song it usually does'nt take time to load as it already starts buffering before the previous song is finished).

Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.

amdhunter said:
Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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I have unlimited data so I'm a heavy Google Music user, I haven't had any issues with album art. Also if I know I'm gonna be in an area where service is terrible I just cache a playlist.

amdhunter said:
Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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Delete your app data. That usually clears up the album art issue.

3G ain't fast enough in the UK to stream music. And that's before we even get onto the data caps...

I might have to up my data and finally do this.

If your data plan allows it (as in, you have unlimited) then Google Music is a great replacement for onboard storage. Even without an unlimited plan it makes it much easier to swap out albums on-the-fly when you're connected to WiFi.

My brother and I use Play Music more and more. On AT&T LTE I can stream music in high quality without any trouble. I got the 8GB Nexus so I am going to try to use it more and more.

amdhunter said:
Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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You know you can correct that using the website right?
Google Music has been painless for me with the exception of the missing artwork and some tags not transferring.
Spent about 20 minutes on the website fixing it all and now all 18,000 songs are at my disposal regardless of device or local storage space.
Now if Google could do this with personal videos (no not broadcast to the world like YouTube.)

I just uploaded like 200+ songs to my Google Music storage. If anything, it is really convenient Although the 200+ songs I uploaded were .flac, and if I read right, all .flac audio higher then 320kbps, will be re-encoded to that. Can't say I hear a difference in sound quality at all though...
Songs will store on your device's storage as "cache" as you play them (depending on cache settings anyway). If you don't have unlimited data, you could possibly just let songs cache to your device via WiFi.

espionage724 said:
I just uploaded like 200+ songs to my Google Music storage. If anything, it is really convenient Although the 200+ songs I uploaded were .flac, and if I read right, all .flac audio higher then 320kbps, will be re-encoded to that. Can't say I hear a difference in sound quality at all though...
Songs will store on your device's storage as "cache" as you play them (depending on cache settings anyway). If you don't have unlimited data, you could possibly just let songs cache to your device via WiFi.
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This is exactly what I've been doing since I got the Galaxy Nexus. I had a bunch of music on an sdcard prior to getting the nexus so instead of dragging and dropping everything from my SDCard to my Galaxy Nexus every time I would flash another rom or get a new phone, I'd cache the music from Google Music. This is what I plan on doing with the Nexus 4. Haven't had a problem since using it full time a year ago.

Google Music works really well. It caches the most played songs and tends to cycle songs as you play them. I my current cache is 2 GB and I have uploaded hundreds of songs. I don't think it hits battery that much as Web browsing tends to be more of a drain due to the screen and processing the page. Here we are just retrieving a music file to play. I have the 2.0GB on tmobile and on the first month I got close to the cap but every month after that I was fine. You should cache some albums or artists over wifi if you are sure you will listen to them.
You could essentially have your entire collection on hand without the need for actual space. It's not like you will listen to everything that you will need it on your device but that you will eventually listen to it and that's where Google Music shines.
Also you will be able to log in on any computer and have your music collection ready to play.
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Definite yes. The music manager on the PC seemlessly monitors your music folder and will upload any new files when added to the folder. Source of these files doesn't matter, legal or otherwise. The App experience on the phone itself gets the job done. You aren't going to find as many options for sound processing as you would from say Poweramp, but the convenience of cloud based music outweighs the features you give up. The play music app will mature with time as well, it gets better every update.

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Definite yes. The music manager on the PC seemlessly monitors your music folder and will upload any new files when added to the folder.
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Indeed. If you are planning on uploading music though, I might suggest properly tagging it with correct Artist, Album, and Naming, just so it looks good (and I think Google can grab song art based on those values)

I like it. It's worked perfectly for me. If you know you have a few tracks you like to hear often.. Click make available offline for the times you don't have reception. Seem less for me
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I hate the Google Music app. The uploader also sucks, very very slow and you have to use a crappy website to manage things.
I could deal with the crappy uploader if we could use the library with other apps but for some reason Google wont make it open source. The Google Music app just sucks, unpolished hard to use UI and makes a mess of ID3 tags. Its one of those half assed Google projects that they started but wont finish.
If you dont care much about the player or dont know what youre missing since you havent used better then its a good option, but if you need a really simple and easy to use player because you only use it while doing other things and dont have time to deal with bad UI design then its not an option.

[Q] Best / easiest way to manage/sync music to N4?

What is the most seamless way to sync music files to my internal storage beyond the Play Music app? Ideally it would be an app / program that would let me do it over wifi.
For reference, I would prefer it to be compatible with a macbook.

JohnnyTA said:
What is the most seamless way to sync music files to my internal storage beyond the Play Music app? Ideally it would be an app / program that would let me do it over wifi.
For reference, I would prefer it to be compatible with a macbook.
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Seeing as you're a mac user, I'm assuming you use itunes. If so, try this out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEwMiwiY29tLmpydHN0dWRpby5pU3luY3I0TWFjIl0.

I use media monkey to organize all my music files. Then I upload it to Google music and it just shows on my phone without taking any space. Its worth doing specially if you plan on flashing Roms and wiping your data often. Google music give it a try. You can manage it online too
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Another vote for iSyncr. Works great over wifi with my Mac and iTunes. I've used it through 2 or 3 phones at this point, and never had a problem with it. It will also backup pics/vids from your phone to your computer.

Ok, thanks for the input. I'll check out iSyncr - I'd used it a while ago on my Droid X but it looks like it's gotten a lot of new features since then.
And to clarify, I do use Google Music, I just really don't like the app, so I figured I can use another player for local files and then use the google music app if i want to listen to anything not store locally.

Nexus 4 Storage Limitation - What do you do?

I'm looking to hear what people have done to get around the 8 or 16GB storage limitation. How have you managed large MP3 libraries, ROM backups, pictures/videos, etc.?
I'd like to hear your creative ideas! ie The Cloud, Separate iPod/MP3 player, keep a laptop close by, etc.

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I'm looking to hear what people have done to get around the 8 or 16GB storage limitation. How have you managed large MP3 libraries, ROM backups, pictures/videos, etc.?
I'd like to hear your creative ideas! ie The Cloud, Separate iPod/MP3 player, keep a laptop close by, etc.
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I don't have a Nexus 4 yet, but I can tell you how I do it with my 16GB Nexus S. We had the same discussion everyone is having now two years ago.
I would make use of the cloud, but unfortunately there aren't any unlimited data plans in the Netherlands, and if there are, they're freaking expensive. So I'm stuck with 1GB a month. Which is perfectly fine for me, but not if I want to make use of the cloud.
I do have a larger MP3 library than 16GB. Probably around 30GB. What I did is I sorted all my songs. On genre, in playlists, with ratings. This makes it really easy to just copy small parts of my library onto my Nexus S. I change my mobile library like once in two weeks. I don't listen to all of the 30GB anyway. I want to have as many different genres as possible on my device, so I mainly sort the songs on rating. With this system, I don't even make 8GB, which gives me plenty of space for other things. I'm happy with it and I doubt that even with unlimited data I would use that cloud. Copying a new library to my phone twice a month doesn't cost me a lot of time at all. I would definitely use a service like Spotify, even though I don't have unlimited data. Streaming wouldn't be possible (1GB data cap), but for the times I don't have wi-fi I can use the offline modus. But I think Spotify Premium is too expensive, and what I hate about it is that when you stop after two years of loyal service, you have nothing to show for.
The rest of my storage I let fill up automatically. With apps and the like. I store pictures on my google drive. I don't really use ROM backups (I'm not that attached to a certain setup, because I like the tweaking more than actually using my phone), but when I do, I just copy them on my computer.
Would I use 32GB if I had it? Of course. But I'm totally fine with 16GB. What I don't really understand is why there's no sd card slot. There isn't really a logical reason not to implement one. It can't cost THAT much, right? Anyway, only once a year I'm annoyed by the lack of storage: when I'm going on vacation. I watch a lot of TV series/movies on vacation. I would use USB OTG, but... I can live with it. I bring my computer anyway so I can always copy new episodes on my phone.
It really isn't such a big deal to empty your SD card every so often. That's just my two cents.

I bought the 16gb version specifically to have enough room to transfer the pictures of my previous phone to it, only to find out that transfering a large amount of files is erratic and good luck if you plan to have the files sorted by timestamp.
I think you are pretty much forced to use the cloud, if you are okay with it; I wasn't, so I simply gave up and transferred nothing to the phone.

My apps take up most of my space unfortunately. I have over 50 gb of music in my computer and I'm only left with approx ~3gb on my phone. Which kinda sucks:\ not that I plan in putting all my music, but extra space would be nice. I also download a lot of stuff too. My apps are mostly heavy games though(battle bears, gta3 & VC, NFS most wanted, etc...) So the games make up for lack of music.
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I bought a 16 GB but its not enough for my full mp3 library, but nothing is as its over 80 GB anyways. Right now I have about 12 GB stored locally in 3 playlists, this is the music that I just absolutely can't live without. The rest is in the cloud on Google Music but I hate streaming it, playback quality sucks and I don't have the data plan to do it. Everything else, documents, pictures, files, etc are stored in dropbox and I can easily access them from anywhere and download what is needed. I also have a 50GB box account for storage so I never have a problem with access to files I need.

Just use a computer if you need more storage. People use the phone way to much if you need to use all that storage and internet data. How about exercising or going out on a date. Plus everything is going to the cloud.

yoyoz808 said:
Just use a computer if you need more storage. People use the phone way to much if you need to use all that storage and internet data. How about exercising or going out on a date. Plus everything is going to the cloud.
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In all honesty my last phone had 2gb internal and 8gb card and I didn't come anywhere close to filling it. So I said Ill get the 8gb. Really theres only around 5 gb usable when you get it. I installed just apps and 1 large game (gta vice city) I have close to 2 gb usable. After a few videos and a bunch of images it goes quick. Really just makes it so you have to manage your file system more.

i put all my video/mp3/pics on my NAS at home which is linked by CIFS. unfortunately you need a custom kernel with cifs support.
from office i connect via wlan and vpn to my NAS.
i dont know if there is a custom kernel to use a USB stick via OTG host cable?

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Sure, and someday we'll all have unlimited fast data for $5/month. Until then, I want to be able to carry my music/videos around with me wherever I go. There are ways to do that (SD cards, portable hard drives, etc), but Google/LG decided to prevent us from using those methods with this device.

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Sure, and someday we'll all have unlimited fast data for $5/month. Until then, I want to be able to carry my music/videos around with me wherever I go. There are ways to do that (SD cards, portable hard drives, etc), but Google/LG decided to prevent us from using those methods with this device.
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did you buy this phone? you knew this going in. why would you buy this phone if you needed those things? i guess maybe the USB OTG thing was a screw up on their part though.
to answer OP's question. I only have apps installed that i need. and honestly regular apps take up nearly no space. I usually only have one or two games installed that are really big. I clear my cache every night with a Titanium Backup schedule. I use Google Music or the million other music apps to stream music. I'm not away from a WiFi connection long enough to consume too much data on mobile so it's not an issue for me.

I use Play Music for my library, and Dropbox and Box. Simple enough for me.
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efan3719 said:
did you buy this phone? you knew this going in. why would you buy this phone if you needed those things? i guess maybe the USB OTG thing was a screw up on their part though.
to answer OP's question. I only have apps installed that i need. and honestly regular apps take up nearly no space. I usually only have one or two games installed that are really big. I clear my cache every night with a Titanium Backup schedule. I use Google Music or the million other music apps to stream music. I'm not away from a WiFi connection long enough to consume too much data on mobile so it's not an issue for me.
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I am going to buy the Nexus 4, but that doesn't mean his complaints aren't valid. I can get by with 16GB, but I would use the extra storage if I had 32GB or a SD card slot, or even USB OTG support. It's weird that they left it all out. And unlimited data is virtually non-existent here in the Netherlands, unless you want to play like 100 euro per month.
Every phone has something you won't like. You have to weigh the pros and the cons. For me, the Nexus 4s pros easily win.

I bought the 8GB model and I did slightly underestimate how much space that I would need given the prepaid carrier I use. Straight Talk has an undefined data cap.
My biggest usage is music streaming. So, I try to plan out the music that I'm in the mood to listen to that day when I wake up in the morning. Most paid music streaming services will let you cache the music offline. I found that the cached music from Spotify/Sony Music Unlimited/Rdio/etc takes less space on my internal storage than my actual library from Google Play Music. Google Play Music also allows you to cache too.
That's my "creative" way lol.

Google play music works just fine as long as you have a decent data connection. In the settings of the app you can click on only stream high quality. As long as your mp3s are good and you're on a fast network, it'll do 320kbps. I've got about 60gb of music stored, most of which are 320 and they sound really good as long as you know how to eq using dsp or another mixer of choice. If you know you're going to be in a spotty area, pin a few playlists or albums to your phone via Wi-Fi before you leave your pad.
Oh.... and if your speakers/headphones suck, the music quality will too..
For other files use Google drive or Dropbox. If you have a g+, your photos can automatically upload to a private album. Or use one of the other photo services out there.
If you wanna pay a bucks, doubletwist can wirelessly sync to your computer over Wi-Fi... food for thought.
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yoyoz808 said:
Just use a computer if you need more storage. People use the phone way to much if you need to use all that storage and internet data. How about exercising or going out on a date. Plus everything is going to the cloud.
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I happen to use my phone to assist me when I go long distance running and for getting dates . As a matter of fact, being able to track my running via GPS is an essential function. And also listening to music when I run and work out. If anything, my phone has enabled me to be more active.
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Google play music works just fine as long as you have a decent data connection. In the settings of the app you can click on only stream high quality. As long as your mp3s are good and you're on a fast network, it'll do 320kbps. I've got about 60gb of music stored, most of which are 320 and they sound really good as long as you know how to eq using dsp or another mixer of choice. If you know you're going to be in a spotty area, pin a few playlists or albums to your phone via Wi-Fi before you leave your pad.
Oh.... and if your speakers/headphones suck, the music quality will too..
For other files use Google drive or Dropbox. If you have a g+, your photos can automatically upload to a private album. Or use one of the other photo services out there.
If you wanna pay a bucks, doubletwist can wirelessly sync to your computer over Wi-Fi... food for thought.
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I use G+ for uploading pics. It would be nice if it could automatically delete pictures after a successful upload.
I used to use Subsonic for streaming music from my desktop. But, I felt that I was wasting energy by keeping my PC "on" every day. That's why I like Google Play Music, it technically saves me money.

i just bought a "PQI Air Drive" wireless flash storage device:
http://recombu.com/mobile/news/pqi-...-ios-and-android-devices-photos_M16479-1.html
.. not because i particularly anticipate running out of my 16GB, but as an incurable gadget freak i couldn't resist it.
It should enable me -- and the rest of the family simultaneously -- to stream movies/ music etc. to our various phones and tablets.
cool device.

I have now a Kingston Wi-drive SSD 128GB. No storage problems anymore, but 160 € and only power for 4 hours...

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I have now a Kingston Wi-drive SSD 128GB. No storage problems anymore, but 160 € and only power for 4 hours...
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I have unlimited data so my situation may be different.
I abuse Google + for storing up to 20000 photos and auto sync them then delete from device. I use box.com for anything else I need to store and have dropbox and Google drive for more storage. I stream all my music from Google play as I uploaded my entire library off my PC. It uses a surprisingly small amount of data compared to watching the GSL with the twitch.TV app. So far I've got all my favorite apps, about 12 games, and have over 10gb free.
I'm also thinking about using airdroid for easier file transfer to PC while around house.
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Here in Austria we don't get official Google Play service, so the device has to be bought from a third-party vendor. Also, there's no movies, books, or music... i.e. no official Google Music app streaming.
I use CloudAround for that though, uploaded around 25GB of music to dropbox, and stream from there directly, though it also works with many other cloud providers. You can also use ZumoCast http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276410, a great solution if you have a home server running windows.
However I have unlimited data with 8GB/month high speed (even LTE where available), with throttling to 64kbit/s when its reached -> enough for good quality AAC internet radio .
Only 16GB internal (~12GB effectively) is slightly low, 32 would be way better. Even my Samsung Omnia i900 in 2008 had 16GB internal, and I put in a 8gb card for a total of ~22GB effective...
@ the Dutch posters: Its a shame all the providers removed unlimited data. When I studied there in 2010, I got a contract from Hi with unlimited 3.6Mbit 3G. I was still grandfathered in until this year, but nobody wanted to buy it off me so I had to cancel it .

Nexus 4 and the Cloud

I have resisted the cloud to this point. I mean, Photobucket has a bunch of my pics, but my main backup is still a physical 2.5" HDD in an external enclosure. I always worried about security or a cloud server going down and losing my data (pics, videos, etc). With my recent order (which has been shipped), I am now interested in converting. The lack of microsd on the Nexus 4 forces my hand.
What are you guys using for cloud storage? Most secure? Most dependable? Storage (GB)? Cloud expense (free vs paid)? You cloud experts... send a little advice my way. Thanks.

I think Box offers the most free cloud storage. You get 50GB once they recognize you have a Nexus 4 (or any LG phone). You can only upload 200MB at a time, though...
Dropbox is the most popular. Starts you off with 3GB, I believe, and they offer a variety of ways for you to increase storage.
There's also Google Drive, which starts you with 5GB.
Those are the three I currently use. I jump between Dropbox and Drive.
BONUS: If you have a lot of music, you can upload 20,000 songs to Google Play Music. That's my favorite cloud medium, at the moment.

Also if you're going to pay, Drive has the cheapest price per GB. I'm running 100GB for $5/month, that with Google Music backs up everything but my videos (and those are, ahem, easy to reacquire). The Drive app for Android is nice and has native support for PDF, DOC, and XLS files.

I use Microsoft's Sky Drive. It's great.
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Personally I use the following. All of which is free as well.
Google - Music and Books. I've been pretty impressed with Google Music, and have only just started using it recently (I converted because I had to as well, what with the Nexus 4's small storage). I choose both the above because I like the corresponding apps, and have been happy with prices of Google boobs on the play store. All my music is backed up on my home server.
Dropbox - Small files and some photos. I've been using dropbox for ages now, well before Google Drive came about. It's very easy to access (apps on just about every platform and a web browser interface as well). Truth be told, if I was to start now I would probably just use Google Drive, for consitency with the other Google services I use. One less password at the end of the day to remember. Having said that, I am satisfied with Dropbox. I wouldn't upload anything highly secure there pesonally, as these things can be hacked. Drop box kind of backs it self up if you use the desktop app, since it allows you to automatically download all your files from their server and just leaves it in a dropbox folder on your computer. I think Drive does the same thing mind you. I keep some photos on facebook as well, which I suppose is an option for keeping photos in the server.
I personally don't keep tv shows and movies in the cloud, the cost of steaming it would kill my bandwidth allocation. I keep these all on my home server, and if I go away for the weekend I'll either take them on a usb, laptop, tablet or my phone.

I use Google Music as the cloud service for my music. I use Google Picasa Web and Google + albums for my pictures. I use Play movies for my television shows and movies.
I use Amazon Kindle and Play Books for my cloud services for books. I use Box for the kitchen sink to save all my documents and pertinent information. You cannot go wrong with 50 GB of storage
Mostly all these services are free for me.
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The only active cloud service I'm using at the moment is Google Music.
I also have Box and Drive accounts but I can't find a use for them really.
I honestly hope Google allows developers access for apps to use Google Music. Pretty annoying.
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The benefit of signing up for cloud accounts when they first come out?
I've got 20GB of Google Drive space.... for $5/year.
I've got 25GB of SkyDrive space.... for free.
I use SkyDrive, Google Drive and Photobucket for my photos.
I use SkyDrive almost exclusively for my documents, because Google Drive still just can't figure out how not to **** up Office Documents. I use Google Drive as a backup to store my documents saved to SkyDrive, but never work on documents out of Google Drive.
I use Google Play Music to backup my music. Although I keep about 5GB of my favorite music on my N4. I only use Play Music to stream a song or two on occasion.
I use a DVD player/Blu-Ray player for my movies. I mean, really, I rarely want to watch a movie so badly that I'll watch it on my phone. Tablet, maybe, but definitely not my phone.
If Box is offering 50GB for LG phone users, I'll be signing up for that too. That way, if it changes, I'll likely be grandfathered in.

ownCloud
I'm very keen on trying ownCloud.
It's not easy to set up but it's free and I feel a bit weird about paying a stranger to host my files.
My cable internet connection is very good and my home computer is on all the time.
The upspeed is obviously not as great but I don't think it matters that much.
Is anyone using it already or can share an experience with it?

I can't believe there isn't a way to drag songs instead of selecting a folder. What a pita, I don't want the whole album, I want to listen certain songs.. And more importantly I want to drag and drop from foobar instead of given gay choice itunes or WMP. Uhhh, Google...

[Q] Where is Google Music downloaded to?

I uploaded 457 songs to Google Music. I did not want to stream all the time so I checked off that everysong be downloaded physically to the device. It all went swell but I'd like to move the songs to my SD card and I can't find any folder where the music would be stored at all. The App size grew, so I know the songs are in there. Especially since I can play them without wifi or Mobile Data enabled. But I have NO idea where to look as media, music, etc folders are all empty.
Am I missing something? It is a stock rom S4 rooted with some stuff frozen but I don't believe anything frozen is related since Google Play operates perfectly short of the fact that I can not locate the physical files.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ge...es-android-store-google-play-music-files.html
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Thanks. Since I have the S4, I assume there is something SLIGHTLY different. I tried everything I could find and while all processes finished correctly, the end result wasn't he same. The music would not store anywhere different.
I also got Google music + v 1.1 and when I type the alternative save location, all the music that JUST worked, loses all artwork and say "storage full" when attempting to play on a COMPLETELY empty SD card. I only have 4 free GB and about 10GB of music and this is driving me crazy.
I'll just have to physically add music to the device and I assume GMusic will just play from it?
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Internal memory only. Hence why a 16gb S4 is too small a memory size.

Sorta going off topic a tad, but here's how to store Google Music tracks on your SD card: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
I'm not sure if it'll work on the S4, as I don't have one to try out just yet, but hopefully it does!

Borii said:
I uploaded 457 songs to Google Music. I did not want to stream all the time so I checked off that everysong be downloaded physically to the device. It all went swell but I'd like to move the songs to my SD card and I can't find any folder where the music would be stored at all. The App size grew, so I know the songs are in there. Especially since I can play them without wifi or Mobile Data enabled. But I have NO idea where to look as media, music, etc folders are all empty.
Am I missing something? It is a stock rom S4 rooted with some stuff frozen but I don't believe anything frozen is related since Google Play operates perfectly short of the fact that I can not locate the physical files.
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My advice Google Music + S4 is a really mess we don't have enough storage space to install more than 3 large games let along our music collection when Google insist on internal storage only.
Your best and quickest option without rooting is to download your music via Google Music webapp then place the files on your SD card. Not ideal i know but a workaround till Google fixes the music app.