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Okay, so I've had a few Heros and sent them all back apart from the one I have now. The main reason for returning 5 Heros so far, was the quality of the screen. Basically there was dust under the screen. I initially thought it was stuck pixels but I'm now certain it's dust.
Dust is visible during the boot animation. It looks like stuck pixels; really bright little points of light. The reason they're visible during the boot animation is because for some reason, the backlight is up full when the phone boots. This will highlight little specks of dust which may not necessarily be visible at other times.
Now, I've noticed another type of dust speck. This kind is visible when the phone is off, or in sleep mode. This type of dust speck is lit by ambient light, so it is visible only when the screen is off, or showing a black image etc, in bright daylight.
So logically, this would lead me to believe that there are at least 2 layers of screen into which dust can find its way and consequently show itself up differently; either highlighted by the screen backlight (like during the boot animation) or highlighted against the screen by ambient light.
When I got the Hero I'm currently using, I was glad to have finally received one with no screen dust. 2 days later, and I have 2 specks of dust, one of each type, both on the left hand side of the screen. This is B.S. because I'm obsessive about screen imperfections, and if dust is getting in now then what's it gonna look like in a month, or 10 months?
Why do HTC have such bad quality control? Or why have they made a screen that isn't sealed so any dust, lint or any other pocket sh*t combination thereof can get inside and irritate the hell out of me? This makes HTC look like amateurs. My SE P1 has sat in my pocket for 2 years and still has a visibly perfect screen.
I am now considering disassembling the handset to impliment my own cleaning and sealing of the internals. Does anyone know if there exists in circulation a technical manual for the Hero?
I had a feeling they weren't hot/dead pixels - 'cos they're only noticable to me when I adjust the viewing angle and blast my brightness up to full and on a black screen/image.
I think it should be accepted that the phone is a load of crap and that it's not going to be able to live up to what was promised.
tatwamasi said:
I think it should be accepted that the phone is a load of crap and that it's not going to be able to live up to what was promised.
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and who cares what you think?
Its actually a cracking phone despite some teething problems and i have had some, many people have had NO problems at all.
Its NEVER sensible to buy any new product when it first comes out as you often get initial 1st production run issues, especially in complex devices
so your basically talking out of your crack
My Nokia E71 had the same problem. The screen (what you think is the screen) is a protective glass/plastic sheet and the dust can get behind it (between it and the lcd). I only got it sorted when the dust built up so bad and it took the repair shop about 15 minutes to fix.
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and who cares what you think?
Its actually a cracking phone despite some teething problems and i have had some, many people have had NO problems at all.
Its NEVER sensible to buy any new product when it first comes out as you often get initial 1st production run issues, especially in complex devices
so your basically talking out of your crack
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and who cares what you think?
Its actually a cracking phone despite some teething problems and i have had some, many people have had NO problems at all.
Its NEVER sensible to buy any new product when it first comes out as you often get initial 1st production run issues, especially in complex devices
so your basically talking out of your crack
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No need to be rude.
On topic, I'm not sure how many more things need to be wrong with this handset before you'd agree with me. Aside from the all the hardware faults being reported people are recommending turning off widgets and apps (what's the point in multitasking if it takes twice as long?) and deleting parts of the OS to get it to run at something approaching smoothly. I know there are updates due but right now pretty much anything you want to do with the phone seems to be flawed. (funnily enough I'd finished typing the "anything" before my phone displayed "a" on the sceen).
Fair enough if you're loving it (though I could uncharitably say who cares what you think) but there's no way I'd recommend this phone to a friend.
I think you should accept that your talking crap, go on any site about any new tech and people are slagging it off this works that doesnt etc etc.
You will also find lots of people saying its great.
Now your backtracking on your own post , what if the update makes its great your going to look an even bigger twat than you look now.
Phone has been barely out a couple of months
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No need to be rude.
On topic, I'm not sure how many more things need to be wrong with this handset before you'd agree with me. Aside from the all the hardware faults being reported people are recommending turning off widgets and apps (what's the point in multitasking if it takes twice as long?) and deleting parts of the OS to get it to run at something approaching smoothly. I know there are updates due but right now pretty much anything you want to do with the phone seems to be flawed. (funnily enough I'd finished typing the "anything" before my phone displayed "a" on the sceen).
Fair enough if you're loving it (though I could uncharitably say who cares what you think) but there's no way I'd recommend this phone to a friend.
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I think you should accept that your talking crap, go on any site about any new tech and people are slagging it off this works that doesnt etc etc.
You will also find lots of people saying its great.
Now your backtracking on your own post , what if the update makes its great your going to look an even bigger twat than you look now.
Phone has been barely out a couple of months
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tatwamasi, I know you are right with some points about the hardware faults and all but i guess ( i wont say i think ...lol) that every new phone that comes out at one point has them.
Buying a product just after its release is a risk to take if you know what i mean but hey who cares as long as the warantee is there
anyway, i think the htc hero is a great phone. Its just that many of us had high expectations. too much maybe. Many of us complain of the lag and stuff... so far i havent used any smartphone without one. of course you might mention the "iphone" to me but let me just say that i prefer a laggy phone with the capability of running applications on the background than a smooth one without the multitask capab.
Like spacecat said, i am sure there'll be an update to fix these things.
Cheers!!!!!!!
Here here!
Awsome Handset! Awsome O/S!
Teething issues to be epected with all devices of this stature!
and if you implement the correct apps and methods your lag issues are solved! (e.g swapper + Taskill) Simpuls! Worked for me
I know as I, most of the guys here on XDA have been running winmo for donkeys and android is a breath of fresh air!
This is XDA-DEVEPLOPERS lets stop *****ing and do something productive.....
P.S.... come on, really Dust in the screen you evven admitted you cannot see it while in normal operation
spacecat said:
I think you should accept that your talking crap, go on any site about any new tech and people are slagging it off this works that doesnt etc etc.
You will also find lots of people saying its great.
Now your backtracking on your own post , what if the update makes its great your going to look an even bigger twat than you look now.
Phone has been barely out a couple of months
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In no way did I backtrack. I can't be bothered to argue with you though. Bye!
tatwamasi said:
I think it should be accepted that the phone is a load of crap and that it's not going to be able to live up to what was promised.
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Let me know of a product that doesn't live up to what was promised. Oh and please explain your meaning of 'promised'
Can I be the ref here and step in with some points that can't really be denied.
1. Dust under screen: Unacceptable. Heard of quality control? Shoddy screen manufacture is fine, even expected in a handset from Tesco that costs £10. Not in the £400 HTC Android flagship.
2. Screen gap. Also unacceptable. I don't even need to explain why.
3. Early adoption = expect problems. I disagree. This is true in practice but not in principle. I didn't pay £400 to be a beta tester. If you can't get the tolerances/design/software sorted out for the first batch then don't sell any until you do.
I'll be the first to say that the Hero is one of the best handsets out there if not THE best, but these little manufacturing issues are a huge fail.
I feel your pain.
Since over a month I want to buy the HTC Hero. At different shops I checked about 7 or 8 devices - all had at list a single dust spot under the screen.
Completely agree with you, that is unacceptable. It doesn't take much in the manufacturing process to secure a dust-free environment.
So, as long as HTC is not able to provide a dust-free screen, I won't buy a HTC device.
I'll have another look at a new shipment when my dealer calls me. That will be it.
Dust under the screen is very irritating especially in bright daylight.
My eyes get fixated on it, can't help it! How much easer can life be for others who just don't care or just don't see it.
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I feel your pain.
My eyes get fixated on it, can't help it! How much easer can life be for others who just don't care or just don't see it.
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Well i have no dust under the screen. ( touch wood touch gold) . Maybe because the protective shield i applied on my screen goes slightly beyond the screen, thus covering the gaps and everthing. It is hardly noticable if u ask me.
deeren said:
Well i have no dust under the screen. ( touch wood touch gold) . Maybe because the protective shield i applied on my screen goes slightly beyond the screen, thus covering the gaps and everthing. It is hardly noticable if u ask me.
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For most peoples' cases, the dust was there before they received the phone - i.e. during the manufacturing process. For me, the dust is not such a big deal as it's not causing any problems with my day-to-day usage. Only when the dust starts to cause dead pixels, will I worry. But for now, I'm loving my Hero (even more so, now with Paul's latest 1.4.1 custom ROM) to bits!
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I think it should be accepted that the phone is a load of crap and that it's not going to be able to live up to what was promised.
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lmao, spoken like a true sadass.
Fact is when a phone comes out for the first month it isn't really what anyone expects, phones are always hyped up to be more than they are, or how would they sell? Happened with the Touch HD, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro 2, heck, it was even with the iPhone for much much longer till Apple pulled their finger out.
The recent update from MoDaCo (1.4.1) has vastly improved things, and this isn't even the official update and its only the 1st update.
This phone lives up to my expectations because I was on earth, not somewhere out there drifting in space.
There are still issues with the phone, but like with all custom roms, they address the problems. Thanks Paul and all the developers / users out here who are feeding back problems to HTC and then fixing them for us great owners.
Oh, back on Topic. I had one spec which only showed on startup, but its gone now so I guess it was just dust. I wasn't bothered though, couldn't tell it was there in use.
Oh come on, worst reception of any handset I've ever had (across 5 separate Heroes) and build quality standards through the floor are the hallmarks of the Hero in my experience.
That's not taking into account the software issues (which I could stomach knowing that there's an update on the way).
Sorry if those things are to be expected, it's just that I've never had so many issues with a handset, but apparently it's standard? Oh well, welcome to your world then, I guess I should expect nothing to work when I buy it and hope it gets sorted later. It's unfortunate that this has been my introduction it's just that previously, everything did just work! (With the exception of the crappy camera on my W960i, that was much better after the update).
I appreciate that people feel some kind of bizarre emotional attachment to their purchases but I don't get why they'd say "I happened to get a good one so it doesn't matter! You have no right to be disappointed" when the issues are real and out there.
Perhaps it was naive of me to expect my text messages to arrive, for video playback to work and for me to be able to make phone calls on my phone (especially when the same SIM delivers decent reception in the same spot in another phone) but it does significantly diminish the experience for me. Camera's better than I thought it'd be, I'll give it that.
Either way, I'm not crying about it and my comment was meant to be flippant. Allowing myself to see my phone as a piece of crap that isn't going to work properly has given me the opportunity to chill out about it and not get annoyed. It's just a phone, oh well. I was hoping it'd be able to replace my iPod but I guess it won't be able to.
And that is how I made peace with the Hero. With any luck the significant issues in software will be sorted in the update. Until they are, I don't think I could possibly recommend it though and right now, I think I should have got an iPhone. C'est la vie.
Was that spoken like a true Sadass? Hope you got a big laugh if so.
I had initial issues LED failure, but it has since been repaired and the video playback is poor.
Otherwise im loving it , great form factor/design balance between screensize and phone size.
internet is superb on the browser and tethered to my laptop,
phone calls and messaging/emails work great and im lovin the apps and market place.
Love the customisable 7 screens no lag that i have noticed.
Best phone i have ever had YES perfect NO but what is..... if the update improves the video i dont know how i could fault it right now
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Oh come on, worst reception of any handset I've ever had (across 5 separate Heroes) and build quality standards through the floor are the hallmarks of the Hero in my experience.
That's not taking into account the software issues (which I could stomach knowing that there's an update on the way).
Sorry if those things are to be expected, it's just that I've never had so many issues with a handset, but apparently it's standard? Oh well, welcome to your world then, I guess I should expect nothing to work when I buy it and hope it gets sorted later. It's unfortunate that this has been my introduction it's just that previously, everything did just work! (With the exception of the crappy camera on my W960i, that was much better after the update).
I appreciate that people feel some kind of bizarre emotional attachment to their purchases but I don't get why they'd say "I happened to get a good one so it doesn't matter! You have no right to be disappointed" when the issues are real and out there.
Perhaps it was naive of me to expect my text messages to arrive, for video playback to work and for me to be able to make phone calls on my phone (especially when the same SIM delivers decent reception in the same spot in another phone) but it does significantly diminish the experience for me. Camera's better than I thought it'd be, I'll give it that.
Either way, I'm not crying about it and my comment was meant to be flippant. Allowing myself to see my phone as a piece of crap that isn't going to work properly has given me the opportunity to chill out about it and not get annoyed. It's just a phone, oh well. I was hoping it'd be able to replace my iPod but I guess it won't be able to.
And that is how I made peace with the Hero. With any luck the significant issues in software will be sorted in the update. Until they are, I don't think I could possibly recommend it though and right now, I think I should have got an iPhone. C'est la vie.
Was that spoken like a true Sadass? Hope you got a big laugh if so.
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Hold my hands up on that one, I thought you were only talking about software issues, not hardware, so I apologise.
I completely understand where you are coming from regarding hardware, seems HTC have had issues on a couple of their latest phones, Diamond 2, Pro 2.
I had a Touch Pro 2 and after the 5th, I gave up and got a refund. The hinges were loose, faulty, slack. The screen had actual dead pixels. Keyboards faulty. Screen loose.
Other than moving back to my Touch HD which was perfect in every way (after having custom rom made, and it really needed Windows Mobile 7 to make it perfect), I thought the Hero was the next step.
Hardware wise, for me, it is. It is perfectly built, feels solid in my hand, screen nice and clear, reception perfect for me (same as all other HTC devices I've had and my iPhone 3g).
I know some people have had major issues with phones and the majority seem to be the people with Orange's Graphite branded phones, gaps in screens, poor reception etc and it must be certain production lines causing the issue.
Hopefully more roms coming out will make the software spot on, but as for hardware, they all need sending back as £400 is a lot for a phone, like I said about the Touch Pro 2, when your paying that much for a phone you expect it to be perfect (hardware).
Aside from the hardware, there is so much achieved in this latest update from MoDaCo (1.5) and more and more software on the Market everyday, software will be 110% in the near future.
Hope your hardware issues get sorted, send it back!!
I've been running cyanogen's latest stable mod (5.0.4.1) for the last few days and I must say, it's like owning a whole new phone compared to the stock rom (enjoy the beer money I sent you buddy, you are a legend). Anyway, just for fun I decided to try browsing upside down, and I sh1t you not, solved my 3g problem. I am currently swyping this on my nexus in an area of my house previously only accustomed to the infamously crappy edge network; it would usually get 0 to 1 bar on 3g/h for very small amounts of time, then immediately switch back to edge no matter how I held the phone. At the moment i have between 3 and 4 bars of 3g/h, and no switching to edge (running ota radio). What the hell were htc/google thinking sticking the damn antenna on the bottom of the phone? I wonder if the teflon coating may also play a role in poor signal quality...Any thoughts?
My thought is that software issues give me something to look forward to and hardware issues make me sad and disappointed
Apple will be suing for that brain cancer that HTC didn't cause us yet...I'm waiting..
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My thought is that software issues give me something to look forward to and hardware issues make me sad and disappointed
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software issues can be fixed, hardware..I'm not dissapointed about...Its blows any other phone out the water so far besides its cousins.. but its sexy
Just DONT hold at the Bottom Lmaooo @ upside down.
Just curius. I tend to use my phone ALOT, just can't put it down, i love it.
But i started to notice my thumbs are feeling like i got burnd on somthing hot. The screen feels very warm and my fingers hurts.
Am i just imaging? Have i just used the phone so much i weard my fingers down, or is im actully getting small burns?
Not the most regular question here. Darn i love this phone to much. With HD2 i had O.R.D . Now i have E.U.D. Extended Using Dissorder) =/
Never happened to me. I doubt it would be getting that hot or the screen would melt. Or the battery would explode.
Im not saying the phone will melt, just that screen feels hot. But guess it's only me then
No it's not only you, i have the same issue. When i use the phone for quite some time the screen gets really hot. Like you said...sometimes it's like your fingertips are on fire! . When this happens i usually stop using it for some time. It cools down pretty quick (half an hour i guess). Other than that...my phone still works perfectly (i've had it since december 2010).
Half hour!!!! Your strong minded =P
Nice to hear im not crazy thou. I guess its a small prize to pay for having the best screen :-D
Hehe...i do have to sit on my hands for that half hour ...
But you're right...it's a small price to pay. Just the other day i saw a HD7 (with LCD)...and i was baffled with the terrible display quality :S.
I'm looking forward to the new Samsung WP7 phone. Rumour: A 4.3inch Super Amoled screen!!
He he, yeah. But i must also wait for what Nokiia have up there sleaves. It´s gona be a intresting christmas =)
Im a bit scared to buy a new Samsung since i been having the call issue and slow internet etc. I just sent it in to Samsung today to get a new radio firmware they havent gone public with yet =D. So there is hope.
In the end, i wonder if its not gone be better to wait untill we find out what the real plans for Xbox on WP7 is heading. Might be that there will be some awsome power phones coming with some hard core graphic cards. Nvidia and MS have been up to somthing i belive, I strongly belive that gaming will get totaly´ly amazing in the future for WP, since there focusing hard to turn the consol to be a entertainment center, leving somme room for a full gaming experience. But i guess, only time will tell.
Have been having the same issue to but it has only been lately on really hot days and out in the sun, but that is the only times I have had the issue
Yup, I've noticed it too.
I don't know whether it's the screen itself or whether it's heat from the internals conducting through the screen.
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yup, i've noticed it too.
I don't know whether it's the screen itself or whether it's heat from the internals conducting through the screen.
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dude i also feel warm not in screen but back of phone,. When i play 3d games or use 3g apps, it gets warms... When im charging, omg that time it seems like it is cooking... Is it bad samsung build fault or bcoz of flashing omnia 7 with different firmware ???
Phone : Samsung omnia 7 i8700 (t-mobile)
i have this problem when i using a lot my phone but charged too.. (combo)
about the back of the battery cover i think is normal to be hot because battery goes hot and the metal cover leave more feel to user than a plastic cover..
That's okay, friends. It's just the CPU/GPU getting hot when you do things that need power (games e.g.).
You should feel how hot the Samsung Galaxy SII gets at the back when you are playing games (or the EMail client is crashing again and both CPU cores stick at 100% ).
It might get hot while charging too but that's the battery then. Nothing to worry about, just enjoy your phone
Is it? I've read about it and it seems it's an issue with the AMOLED Samsung chose for this phone, but that it can be solved with other RGB settings, slightly cutting back on the true blacks and whites.
if you are so much troubled by it, then by all means feel free to do so
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Rewrote the OP, lol. I always write stuff I don't mean when I'm a bit angry. It's just that I'm tired of constantly having phones with issues. I exchanged the piece of crap One for this phone.
Hey Shawty. I tried the MEA update and personally couldn't see any snaring although some people claim it's still there. I must be blind because I looked for it.
Still I went back to my old setup as some mods didn't work on the new rom. Personally it doesn't bother me as I rarely see it.
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I can say from my experience that it is software related. When I first got the phone I noticed it immediately, on menus etc. I installed an app that was suggested on some other threads about this topic which like you said changes something to do with RGB levels (I don't actually understand the issue/fix myself). Since the MEA update it has been less of a problem, I don't get it on the settings menu for example. But in another app (Light Flow) I still get a bit of smearing.
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Look, darling. I appreciated the One but the fact that it had so many flaws was bothering. It heated up beyond what one would call reasonable and actually got too uncomfortable to hold and the capacitive keys were blue-ish when they should have been white (I even compared it to my brother's One).
I agree that the One is superior to the S4 in many ways like for instance the speakers, the premium feel and a few other aspects.
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Sorry but have to refute this nonesense about the One heating up. The One does not heat up unless you're using it plugged in and proper battering it with a 3D game or something, and even then to call it hot is stretching matters. Warm to the touch is the best i've managed with it. Now the S4, that gets bloody hot, too hot to touch.
As for the issue at hand, can't be sorted as it;s inherent with all Amoled displays including S4, S3, etc.
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BTW. the heat from One's aluminium body is not an "issue" its normal since alloy is an excellent conductor of heat, better to rid the heat than reflect it like plastic, the heat is no way impacting performance or otherwise.
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I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
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As for the blue-ish buttons, come on, don't talk trash, that is such a nit pick ridiculous comment!
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I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
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Sorry but have to refute this nonesense about the One heating up. The One does not heat up unless you're using it plugged in and proper battering it with a 3D game or something, and even then to call it hot is stretching matters. Warm to the touch is the best i've managed with it. Now the S4, that gets bloody hot, too hot to touch.
As for the issue at hand, can't be sorted as it;s inherent with all Amoled displays including S4, S3, etc.
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So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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I am not a Samsung fanboy, though, but there was only one phone I wanted and that was the HTC One. It disappointed me and I turned to the S4. Should that prove to be a disappointment as well, I don't know what to do.
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Strictly keep it on topic. No trolling. No sarcasm.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you do need to respect other's too.
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I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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Good for you, I have both devices right in front of me.
I actually had an H-One replaced for thinking it was overheating, however after receiving the new one it has the same heat omission and it isn't really "uncomfortable" come on S4 gets hot too when multitasking.
The aluminium body is supposed to get hot its what aluminium does when a large battery presses against it fuelling a hard working CPU, mind you I dont believe you weren't working the CPU and it merely "got hot doing nothing special"(as for battery life comparing the two the 'One' has better battery life, mind you I'm using stock battery S4)
Plastic doesn't transfer heat nearly as well hence the worse battery life and most likely reduced life of the phone, not to mention the cheap look and feel. I don't expect my post to last here as it seems some biased mods refuse to allow any opinions to remain that may be even slightly objective towards S4, don't get me wrong I still really like the S4, oh well, care factor!
BTW I am not calling anyone a liar, however if you think your post is more truthful than mine then I guess you're judging people without hearing their opinion!
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I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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high end performance comes at a cost... do not expect a quad core cpu to be cool also give it some time till samsung s4 software is really optimized because its far from being fully ready
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Good for you, I have both devices right in front of me.
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Good for you.
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I actually had an H-One replaced for thinking it was overheating, however after receiving the new one it has the same heat omitting and it isn't really "uncomfortable" come on S4 gets hot too when multitasking.
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There you go again. You don't think it's uncomfortable, but I do. Yeah, the S4 does get hot, but at one spot only, the upper part of the phone, though it doesn't get all around hot like the One does.
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The aluminium body is supposed to get hot its what aluminium does when a large battery presses against it fuelling a hard working CPU, mind you I dont believe you weren't working the CPU and it merely "got hot doing nothing special"(as for battery life comparing the two the 'One' has better battery life, mind you I'm using stock battery S4)
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Believe what you will, I cannot force you. I know the truth, the real truth. I wasn't working the CPU when it got hot, unless playing around iwth the phone means working the CPU a lot. It got blazingly hot by playing games.
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Plastic doesn't transfer heat nearly as well hence the worse battery life and most likely reduced life of the phone, not to mention the cheap look and feel. I don't expect my post to last here as it seems some biased mods refuse to allow any opinions to remain that may be even slightly objective towards S4, don't get me wrong I still really like the S4, oh well, care factor!
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Biased? Haha, oh the irony of this post.
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Good for you.
Biased? Haha, oh the irony of this post.
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Haha too, there's no irony when nobody knows the truth, anyway I guess ignorance is bliss, no offence however I think you're right. Piece!
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Theshawty said:
Is it? I've read about it and it seems it's an issue with the AMOLED Samsung chose for this phone, but that it can be solved with other RGB settings, slightly cutting back on the true blacks and whites.
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I don´t have this anymore on latest MF8 on 9505.
Hey everyone so I decided to try the daydream VR since my friend has It. I spend about 45 minutes immerse in the experience and all of my sudden my phone shut off. I took it it out and the phone was extremely hot!! I thought maybe it was dead. So I plugged it in. And it dint do anything at all.. at this point I thought of the worse and thought my phone might have overheated and fried the internal. My friend suggested putting the phone next to the AC to cool down. And about 10 minutes of cooling the phone actually turned on..
All I can say is beware of long periods of time in the VR. I for sure will not be using this..
I posted on this as well the Daydream vr Pixel combo, is dangerous to say the least.
Mine heated up so bad in 5 minutes. i could feel the heat radiate to my face through the unit.
I had to pay for my Daydream a few days ago returning it may be my best option.
egren58 said:
Hey everyone so I decided to try the daydream VR since my friend has It. I spend about 45 minutes immerse in the experience and all of my sudden my phone shut off. I took it it out and the phone was extremely hot!! I thought maybe it was dead. So I plugged it in. And it dint do anything at all.. at this point I thought of the worse and thought my phone might have overheated and fried the internal. My friend suggested putting the phone next to the AC to cool down. And about 10 minutes of cooling the phone actually turned on..
All I can say is beware of long periods of time in the VR. I for sure will not be using this..
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Were you using a case with your phone at the time, also out of interest as you mentioned AC, what is the climate like where you live?
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Were you using a case with your phone at the time, also out of interest as you mentioned AC, what is the climate like where you live?
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I live In NY temp today was high 40s. And yea I did have a case. But I still don't think this is safe for your phone.
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I posted on this as well the Daydream vr Pixel combo, is dangerous to say the least.
Mine heated up so bad in 5 minutes. i could feel the heat radiate to my face through the unit.
I had to pay for my Daydream a few days ago returning it may be my best option.
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Yeah I'm definitely not ordering one for myseld
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I live In NY temp today was high 40s. And yea I did have a case. But I still don't think this is safe for your phone.
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I agree it doesn't sound great, i doubt it will blow up on your face as the phone will self-power down long before then.
What case are you using out of interest? A thick silicon/rubber case will have a massive impact on the thermal performance on the phone. It will have the same effect as placing something over your computer fan outlet, eventually the system will shut down as the temp builds up.
On the bright side, I haven't seen any mention of any extreme thermal issues (phones will get warm when pushing VR content) so hopefully it is an isolated issue or is a software issue that can be patched.
Other than melting your face, how is the daydream experience?
Lol it is pretty nice,i found an app on the play store.
That had me in some girls bedroom while she was getting dressed.lol I was looking all around the bedroom.
Skydiving,bowling,etc.
Warning you will get dizzy.
That's a shame that it heats up that bad considering the phone has good thermals on its own. But it makes sense with the fabric insulating the phone keeping the heat from leaving efficiently.
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That's a shame that it heats up that bad considering the phone has good thermals on its own. But it makes sense with the fabric insulating the phone keeping the heat from leaving efficiently.
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There is no fabric that insulates the phone. The phone sits in plastic with rubber stand offs that space out the phone so it has a gap all around the phone.
I take my OtterBox commuter car off my phone when I use daydream and while the phone does get very hot I have not had a overheat message yet out has the phone shut down.
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Ugh. Was hoping their would not be heat issues in the case...was so annoying taking my note 7 out of the case every time i wanted to VR...
Someone needs to come up with a case with a passive heatsink pf some sort on it.
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Remember guys, any and all devices you leave the "light" on will get hot. Feel your TVs, even the LED get warm - hot.
While you're using the VR you've got the screen on and are taxing the Pixel in an enclosed visor. Plus your head is probably hot, esp if you're watching the prawn stars
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Remember guys, any and all devices you leave the "light" on will get hot. Feel your TVs, even the LED get warm - hot.
While you're using the VR you've got the screen on and are taxing the Pixel in an enclosed visor. Plus your head is probably hot, esp if you're watching the prawn stars
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Lol
yeah I tried my Note in the Gear VR (came free with it) was an ok experience but my god did the phone get hot, they are pushing the performance of these devices to the limits so it should be expected they get warm, but then there is a point where you should be asking if it was actually thought through, if the phone is overheating then that is a problem and something that should have been seen before now, but if the phone is just generally running hot I would see it as something normal when you are taxing the CPU and GPU to the limits. but if it is running hot to the point of shutting down something is wrong there.
Since this is the phone they used to build Daydream VR (only certified phone) I am sure they tested extensively. This maybe the reason for the low power version of the 821 instead of the higher performance version. The phone actually shutting off I beleive means a defective phone. Unless you just missed all the heat warning I would call Google and get a RMA before your battery goes bad permanently.
Even gear VR overheats it's just the compromise of the mobile versions for now.
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What if you didn't use a case, and maybe put a spacer behind the phone so when you close it there is a space behind the phone for it to breathe....and stay cooler? Can't wait to try the headset out when it comes.
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I had read that Daydream on the Pixels has an exception to the thermal throttle normally enforced in order to achieve the required 60FPS for the scene, therefore enabling it to push a little harder than most other 3D applications and inevitably getting hotter. As mentioned earlier it was probably all subject to extensive testing by Google and aids in the explanation to the lower clock speeds they have chosen.
I'm fairly confident that Google was confident the heat is acceptable and considering it's the latest and greatest from Qualcomm the only alternative would be some heat pipes and heatsinks sticking out of the phone.
Same deal with the Samsung vr
Got mine, got through the tutorial and it was already very warm.
It is nothing I can picture me using it too much anyway.
I have the Pixel XL with me almost always but I am not bringing the viewer with me all that often.
I've tried just holding the Pixel XL against the VR Headset and leaving the flap down. Seems to keep temperature down a bit.
I was testing it out that way but ended up on a phone call after about 30 minutes of use. (watched about 5 or 6 movie trailers in 4k and 360).
Phone was only warm to the touch. Temperature in house usually kept around 75 degrees.
Anyone else tried this.?