Recoveries - opinions - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Just out of curiosity what would everyone say is the best recovery? What would be the most versatile and easiest to use?
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CWM is my favorite. Always works, never had troubles with it. Not a fan of touch recoveries.
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CWM is by far the easiest and the best recovery you could have.
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Twrp is what I've been using for as long as I can remember. Never had an issue
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To each his own.
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corybucher said:
Just out of curiosity what would everyone say is the best recovery? What would be the most versatile and easiest to use?
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twrp! hands down!

I've never used TWRP before I got my S4 but I'm loving it~! Version 2.5.0.2 works very well.

Philz Touch hands down. Customizable UI, advanced features, multi zips, love it :good:

P1NK13P13 said:
Philz Touch hands down. Customizable UI, advanced features, multi zips, love it :good:
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Is oudhs considered cwm? It does have touch feature but you can use buttons if you prefer.

Asking if people prefer twrp vs cwm is like asking do you prefer blondes or brunettes.

testinguser said:
Asking if people prefer twrp vs cwm is like asking do you prefer blondes or brunettes.
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Redheads.
Oh...and 100% TWRP for me.

I had never used TWRP before this phone but I am loving it. Easy to use. Idiot proof. can flash multiple zips and lets you wipe only the partitions you want. And just plain looks great too.

Official CWM for jfltespr is available through ROM Manager now, so I'm going to flash and see how it goes.

Official CWM is no bueno for now. 50/50 chance whether it'll flash a zip

Flashing anything with rom manager is definitely my last choice.
I use twrp or cwm no diff to me. I guess I lean toward twrp since goo manager actually works.

twrp is perfect except when I constantly have to pull my battery because it freezes on the title screen and I cracked my case because I'm frequently needing to remove it in order to restart the phone.

twrp

BrainsGambino said:
twrp is perfect except when I constantly have to pull my battery because it freezes on the title screen and I cracked my case because I'm frequently needing to remove it in order to restart the phone.
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seriously that happens to me a lot and going to try out philz.

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[Q] Clockworkmod or 4EXT?

title pretty much says it all...
but what recovery do you guys use and like better? which one is more "stable", or works better?
thanks
saranhai said:
title pretty much says it all...
but what recovery do you guys use and like better? which one is more "stable", or works better?
thanks
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I personally never liked CWM. Always loved Amon Ra's.
I prefer 4EXT because it has more options.
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mackster248 said:
I personally never liked CWM. Always loved Amon Ra's.
I prefer 4EXT because it has more options.
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may seem like a noob question...
but i can switch between the two recoveries right?
saranhai said:
may seem like a noob question...
but i can switch between the two recoveries right?
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4ext all the way
And no you can't have 2 different recoveries you could have both apps installed and just flash cwm or 4 ext and then flash the other and switch that way
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joemoss said:
4ext all the way
And no you can't have 2 different recoveries you could have both apps installed and just flash cwm or 4 ext and then flash the other and switch that way
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yeah.. that's what i meant lol
Cwm. Does what is for and is simple. Less prone to **** **** up. Ext4 is too complicated in my opinion.
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Umm quick question.. can anybody direct me to a tutorial where I can learn how to install extension 4, for whatever reason everytime I enter search nothing comes up, any help is appreciated
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flaheat88 said:
Umm quick question.. can anybody direct me to a tutorial where I can learn how to install extension 4, for whatever reason everytime I enter search nothing comes up, any help is appreciated
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See this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286252
4EXT is very useful in 1 thing - it shows the partition sizes and free space. SUPER-useful.
In all the other aspects I don't care what to use, as long as both support the faster TAR backup.
(damn, I haven't been to recovery in ages... since VU 2.37 came out).
4EXT. More functional (switching back and forth on file systems) automatically adds ROM name on backups, and is themeable.
and the paid app is awesome.
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I'm using MIUI.us, and its Updater works well with 4ext, while with CMW works only with ROM Manager. I switched to 4ext then.
I tried also the "touch" version, it works for me though I don't use it frequently.
4ext...
I double 4ext.
Yes, it has many features, and it is not necessary to use all of them.
However, some of them are really nice like the native ability to check md5sums, verify if there is storage space etc.
And the touch version- good bye to the volume up/down and power buttons It is something completely different, and makes it fun to flash things.
Flashing cwm/4ext back and forth is not a problem- I accidentally flashed cwm a couple of times via rom manager without noticing, flashed back 4ext.
4ext for the "wipe 'em all" option.
4ext, yes cwmr is polished more, but 4ext though has some new exciting possibilities. Like the touch ability hopefully coming soon.
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Mr.Highway said:
4ext, yes cwmr is polished more, but 4ext though has some new exciting possibilities. Like the touch ability hopefully coming soon.
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Funny, I use 4ext because I feel like it's more polished. I've never been a fan of cwm but when I left my g1 I had no other option until now.
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backups
so if you had cwmr backups, can you restore them from 4ext, or do you have to flash back cwmr first?
edit: found the answer in another post. thanks.
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so if you had cwmr backups, can you restore them from 4ext, or do you have to flash back cwmr first?
edit: found the answer in another post. thanks.
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You can use your cwm backups in 4ext
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
4ext touch , hands down
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4ext touch , hands down
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Hey how is it? Stable?
I've been thinking about using that... but.. x)
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saranhai said:
Hey how is it? Stable?
I've been thinking about using that... but.. x)
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I haven't had a single issue with it. Flash it. You won't look back. Trust me.
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[Q] paranoid note user wanting to install paranoid android

if you read my last threads you will know i mashed my other note to pieces....
on my desire i would flash roms 3 each week without messing the phone up, so after messing up my note through formatting through cwm while on ics i am a little/lot scared about doing it again..
so i want a little help if you guys would be so kind :laugh:
i dont have the new phone with me right now, but this time i am going to learn how NOT to brake the phone before i start playing with it.
so could you please walk me through this, explain to me as you would explain to a child LOL
so as i understand it, i need to keep to gingerbread then root it, go into recovery and flash the rom from there? do i use the normal phone recovery to do this or do i have to install cwm?
i am a little worried about using cwm again tbh, or can i use mobile odin?
i want to know the easiest way, the most fool proof....
damn i was never this worried with my desire.
your probably thinking "if you are so scared then why bother" right? its just the phone is so damn laggy, even compared to my desire which was built by cave men
cheers for the help guys, asuming i get some ofcourse :fingers-crossed:
Start from a gingerbread rom, then fully root it and install clockworkmod, next boot into recovery(volume up+power+home button together). First flash paranoid android rom then flash gapps, lastly wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. Reboot and enjoy
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My phone just got delivered, I installed ics on it for a mo, I think I can go back to GB pretty easy when I want to can't I?
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Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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Yes, you can flash from one of the supposedly known safe ics kernels to speed the process up BUT if you want to be 100% safe in flashing to any cm9, start with a gingerbread rom.
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Cool thanks, I will just do that when the time comes then, for some reason this phone is no where near as laggy as the last one, and I have all my apps I had on the other device plus more....
Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Lol yeah...i only had the phone a fortnight......on contract whoops lol
So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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I also just received my note from samsung after bricking it with CWM. I am so afraid I might brick it again trying to install paranoid android since I have to wait nearly a month to have my phone back in case anything happen.
Just one question, as long as I'm on paranoid android, can I just format or factory reset my phone through settings or recovery or cwm safely? Thanks a lot.
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So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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If you want to install paranoid, its cm based which means no touchwizz apps will work on it as they need the touchwizz framework. That being said, s pen still works fine and there are plenty of alternatives to the s apps (papyrus, memo etc). Also I've read that one of the devs is working on getting the s apps onto cm9 somehow, but not sure who or how its going. Also the cm9 kernel included for the rom is safe from the superbrick bug as its has the cap wlerase command disabled.
PA has a slightly different installation to other roms. I would highly recommend first installing stock rootable gb, root it and install cwm. Once that's in place perform factory reset.
Then download paranoid and g apps and copy them to external SD card.
Then FROM CWM recovery, you flash pa first by "installing zip from SD card", then do the same for g apps straight afterwards.
If you have any fc's or issues, enter back into cwm recovery and wipe cache and dalvik.
Boom, ready to go for full on paranoia
Its a truly great rom, very customisable and as ics should be.
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Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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mrcarlxx said:
Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Exclusive to XDA users only.
If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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Brilliant thanks
arifhanid said:
A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
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Exclusive to XDA users only.
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Epic Good Lad
ryn888 said:
If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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I hear you loose some of the accuracy of the pen too, tbh I don't really use though apps much but I do use the pen fairly often.
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Is Goo 100% safe?

Hello! I thought I'd make a thread about this because I ask myself this question since a long time. Is it 100% safe to use the Goo manager app from the play store? I mean: 1.Root Nexus 4 on computer
2.Install Goo manager app onto your device
3.Install openrecoveryscript. This is hard for me, what is the chance it will install a recovery that isnt made for my phone? And if its completely safe, can I then always update the recovery in the Goo app?
Thanks for reading this and I hope you guys want to help me!
I use goomanager all the time. I haven't had any problems at all.
The only way it could install the wrong recovery is if you are changing the device id in the build.prop.
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silverramsrt said:
I use goomanager all the time. I haven't had any problems at all.
The only way it could install the wrong recovery is if you are changing the device id in the build.prop.
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So if I dont change any things it will just always download the right recovery and ROMs?
That is correct.
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nothing is 100% safe. modding your device is far from 100% safe. heck, brushing your teeth isnt 100% safe.
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nothing is 100% safe. modding your device is far from 100% safe. heck, brushing your teeth isnt 100% safe.
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True goo is very dangerous and is subject to daily hackings from foreign governments. /s
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Ace42 said:
True goo is very dangerous and is subject to daily hackings from foreign governments. /s
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Only serious comments please. With 100% safe I mean there's no bigger chance to brick than when flashing a recovery manually.
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Only serious comments please. With 100% safe I mean there's no bigger chance to brick than when flashing a recovery manually.
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thats how ive been updating my twrp recovery. sure, theres always a chance that something will go wrong, sometimes flashing a recovery via fastboot can go wrong. but i trust goo myself. as i said before, nothing is 100% safe. that said, ive never heard of someone bricking their device flashing a recovery, ever. i have heard of people flashing the recovery for the wrong device before(manually), but that can be fixed.
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thats how ive been updating my twrp recovery. sure, theres always a chance that something will go wrong, sometimes flashing a recovery via fastboot can go wrong. but i trust goo myself. as i said before, nothing is 100% safe. that said, ive never heard of someone bricking their device flashing a recovery, ever. i have heard of people flashing the recovery for the wrong device before(manually), but that can be fixed.
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Hmm yeah I know you could fix it but it can be forcome
But I think I will flash CWM touch, I loved that in the past.
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[Q] How come my phone crashes on AOKP?

I've been using ROM's for 2 months or so. Ive unrooted/re-rooted my phone twice because of recovery being extremely slow. I've started using the KitKat AOKP rom and thats the only rom that seems to crash my phone. Ill be using my phone when *poof*, it crashes my phone. This will happen every 15min when im using my phone. I was told it might me my recovery, but the only way i can root is through Odin or the goo.im app. I cant flash my recovery using commands because my PC just wont do it, it can recognize fastboot commands but it wont do nothing. I really love AOKP roms. Help please! :fingers-crossed:
Which recovery are you on? How did you flash the recovery you're on?
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Which recovery are you on? How did you flash the recovery you're on?
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I'm on TWRP recovery, i flashed my recovery using the goo manager app
Don't think it's your recovery, but there is a flash able .zip of Philz touch here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42538735
Most people report better results using this on 4.3+
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frostedunit said:
Don't think it's your recovery, but there is a flash able .zip of Philz touch here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42538735
Most people report better results using this on 4.3+
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Used AOKP on this and it crashes before it could even finish setting up, like showing me the home screen.
What exactly do you mean crash? Does it reboot? Freeze and require a battery pull? etc...
And what do you mean by recovery being slow?
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frostedunit said:
What exactly do you mean crash? Does it reboot? Freeze and require a battery pull? etc...
And what do you mean by recovery being slow?
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The recoveries response is pretty fast now thanks to Philz Touch (thanks btw), i mean ill just be scrolling through my phone, doing anything
practical and it will just freeze and reboot. Ive frozen looking through setting, looking at music, and just going on snapchat, its frozen on the lockscreen as well.
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The recoveries response is pretty fast now thanks to Philz Touch (thanks btw), i mean ill just be scrolling through my phone, doing anything
practical and it will just freeze and reboot. Ive frozen looking through setting, looking at music, and just going on snapchat, its frozen on the lockscreen as well.
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Sounds like a kernel or OC/UV issue. Try playing around with different ones and see what happens.
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I was having the same problem on AOKP. I even flashed the 4.3 ROM thinking I would correct the problem there and then move up to 4.4. No luck. I can't remember if I was using Philz at the time though. The main reason for this post is that when I would have the random reboot, the screen would kind of start dimming out. I could see three bars of graphics that would blink out and then the phone would reboot. Sorry for the poor description but wanted to add it in case it meant something beneficial to someone else.

Favorite Recovery?

I wanted to make this to see everyone's opinion on the current recoveries. CWM, TWRP, Philz touch, safestrap, etc. Just put what you think is the "best" recovery in your opinion. And explain, if you'd like.
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poppers162 said:
I wanted to make this to see everyone's opinion on the current recoveries. CWM, TWRP, Philz touch, safestrap, etc. Just put what you think is the "best" recovery in your opinion. And explain, if you'd like.
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TWRP
Touch based
Easy to navigate
Simple format
Theme-able
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TWRP
Touch based
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Theme-able
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Agreed. Philz looks very cool as well but I haven't had the chance to use it yet. And you say Theme-able. How would I go about changing the theme?
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Agreed. Philz looks very cool as well but I haven't had the chance to use it yet. And you say Theme-able. How would I go about changing the theme?
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PhilZ is basically CWM with more options. I don't like the way they're structured. Not that they're bad, just not for me.
TWRP... first smart phone was the droid 4 which used safe strap so it's just what I'm used to...
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Twrp I used Cwm and philz before, Cwm mod was simple but I didn't know what I was doing most the time other than put rom on sd erase install new rom, then philz which I learned how to use aroma what some of the options were, then Twrp is easy and super convenient.. Because of the interface I prefer to sideload roms and other packages, and I feel like I have more control over the device
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Twrp I used Cwm and philz before, Cwm mod was simple but I didn't know what I was doing most the time other than put rom on sd erase install new rom, then philz which I learned how to use aroma what some of the options were, then Twrp is easy and super convenient.. Because of the interface I prefer to sideload roms and other packages, and I feel like I have more control over the device
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does anyone have a link for a twrp that will work with razr m kitkat? plz, ty
deathwithafi said:
does anyone have a link for a twrp that will work with razr m kitkat? plz, ty
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thanks to @dhacker29
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img
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TWRP
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Agreed with all of the above! Haven't themed it myself, but TWRP I find is more intuitive to use than CWM.

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