[Q] How long can Defy really stay under water ? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Did anybody test how long Defy really stay working under water? (Waterpool water, 1m)

Hi, we used Defy+ in waterpool for 40 minutes, approximately 1 - 1,5 meter depth, during shooting this promo video.
After this time water leaked inside the phone. It takes more than 8 days to dry it completely, after that it starts work again.
You didn't specify why you asking, so be careful.
Hope it helps.

Thanks fivephones, I'm looking for this info because we also want to test our app under water. 40 minutes is not enough . Is there (on the market) some other phone which stays longer?

Well defy might be waterproof when it's new but I doubt my 2 years old phone is still able to do that. Dust and dirt is all over the seal gasket. I always took the waterproof thing with a grain of salt. It's good to have it when something unexpected happens but I sure didn't test my luck.

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These Wizards are tough devices!

So, a while back, my 8125 went overboard into the icy waters of lake Michigan while we were launching my sailboat "Adventurous". Crap! My life was stored on that device! So, one day later, I suited up for a cold water dive plan, donned scuba gear and recovered it. Water temp at the bottom was 35 degrees with 6" visability. My goal was to recover the SIM and miniSD where I had a full backup, then restore into a new 8125. This I did with no problems and have been running this way since mid May.
Yesterday, I checked my original 8125 and the water had finally evaporated out of the screen, so on a whim I installed its battery and put it on the charger. Imagine my surprise when the charging light came on! Imagine my further surprise when 2 hours later that light changed from red to green!
Imagine my utter amazement when I pressed the power button and it came right up! It's been running perfectly for 2 days now.
damn.... 24 hours submerged at 33 feet in muddy 35 degree water... :shock:
Nice work HTC... It's now my mule for new rom testing. AKU 2.3 here I come!
*amazed :shock:
will give it a try over the weekend... :lol:
Awesome!! Now if only HTC could make the paintwork so tough!! :lol:
@meschle:
next time you take a screamer off the rock, try not to land on your wizard.....
most electronics are like that these days, all u need to do is qucikly pull out the battery, take it apart, adn low dry all the parts, then it should work fine, unless, the barrary fried it.
i droped my V600 in the water like 2 times, and it still works fine.
@Ray-jai:
That's precisely whats amazing about this incident: My 8125 sat underwater at two atmospheres, powered up for 24 hours! :shock: I couldn't get to it right away to remove the battery due to the dive difficulty.
I wonder what the signal strength was like at 33 feet down...?
Andre
wow! its just a thought ........ but why not email HTC with your story you get something in return (i.e. if they use your story)
wow, lucky you!
Sleuth255 said:
@meschle:
next time you take a screamer off the rock, try not to land on your wizard.....
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Sleuth - next time you fly over to this rock - don't drop your wiz in the POND - it's too deep to dive my friend :wink:
Great story, I've done similar things before and they have survived. Girlfriends Nokia went down the bog (clean one ) and it worked fine after a few days, buttons worked one by one hour by hour still working to this day.
I don’t mean to piss on your party here guys, but there is a high chance it will fail at some point soon.
You see circuit board is made from lots and lots of thin layers (waffers). What happens is that when these layers absorb water when things like that happen. That water will stay there and will slowly corrode the circuitry over time.
To stand a better chance of it surviving long term, as well as taking the battery out (good advice) to avoid short circuiting and fry sensitive components, you need to keep it in a very dry and quite warm (like on top of a radiator, with a towel between if it’s too hot) and leave it there for a few days (even a week or longer).
I was told this by a senior Nokia engineer after my old phone died. I was pushed into a swimming pool on holiday. I was amazed when the phone in my pocket was still working after being completly soaked. It worked for a week before starting to fail (backlight etc) and by 2 – 3 weeks it was completely dead.
You might be lucky, depends on how tight the outer casing is. My advice to you would be to stop using it and get it somewhere very warm for as long as you can. Keep us posted.
OMG i think i have this great idea
to prevent w00t dis guy up here sed
just put your wizard on the microwave... press like... PIZZA REHEAt.
instead of waiting it to warm on top of a radiator , u know.
zeuzinn said:
OMG i think i have this great idea
to prevent w00t dis guy up here sed
just put your wizard on the microwave... press like... PIZZA REHEAt.
instead of waiting it to warm on top of a radiator , u know.
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Yep and all the metal in it would go off like fireworks!!! BANG! :lol:
I had a Siemmens (sp?) phone that fell into the pool, the phone stayed at the bottom for several minutes while I cussed at it.
After retrieving it, I took the battery out and stuck the phone in a toaster oven. I set the oven one its lowest heat setting and left it in there for three 20 minute sets (the oven timer only went up to 20 minutes
60 minutes later, I put the battery back in and powered the phone back up. It worked, and continued to work to this day, approx 1 year later. I just semi-retired it in favor of my new 8125
I thought for sure that the chlorine in the pool would have corroded the crap out of the circuitry.
@dangerous_dom:
That's pretty much precisely what I did. I put it on top of the refrigerator (nice and warm up there due to proximity to evap coils) for 5 weeks before I tried powering it up again.
Just threw mine in with the dishes. Came out lovely and clean and still works perfectly.
Only problem being people receiving texts from me say they are wet. Sure they will dry over time though.
Best bet is to take the phone to a repair shop that will strip the phone down and acid bath the components as water damage can slowly corrode away at chips and alike. I done this with my old A1000. worked a treat after this
Great Story!

Rebooting because of water

Hey,
I love my little elf i take it everywhere but that was my problem i was causually playing on google earth whilst in the bath (as you do) and it slipped out of my hand and into the water i quickly reacted to take my battery out and to put it as far away from water. Besides my fear of my beloved electrical devices taking the plunge again i thought all was well after 24 hours i tried it and it went on fine everything seemed to work inc. the speaker but the problem is it keeps rebooting. It wont stay on for longer than about 5 mins. what can i do, a phone is no good if its always off
water may still be in the main board..
lil trick iv seen on gadget show and tryed myself
undo it (ul need a torx screwdriver to do this)
and put it under a lamp screen down ovcorse
maksure its a good 100watts lamp too
leave it for 6h-8h then try it
the same thing happened to me when I was in bathroom 6 months back .
immediately I removed battery and dried it on the direct sun light for the full day . when I reached in the evening I put it back everything and its working well even today without any headache .
(infact I posting this using same htc touch p 3450)
so, better get it dried up thoroughly .

Dropped in water : The Saga Begins

Dropped the Slide in the garbage disposal (yeah), pulled it out, was still on, pulled the battery within 30 seconds.
Dried it out the best I could for about 30mins. I know I shouldnt have but I turned it on, it got to my CM6 lockscreen and froze, after another restart it would not get past the logo.
Fastboot worked but said touchpanel : fail, instead of Touchpanel : Synaptics "XXXX".
So I did complete dissasembly and the board and the panel is in a box of rice.
I will update as I go along for those who may be curious about the effects of a dunk on this device.
OK. First off, that sucks. I have been there a few times myself, and it was worse. One in the toilet, one in the dish water, and one in the swimming pool (deep end). Second, you need to take it completely apart (look for an assembly manual on XDA), use 90% rubbing alcohol to clean the boards without getting any under anything you cant get it out from (this will remove contaminates), and leave out for 24 hours before re-assembly. It sounds simple, but take a lot of attention to detail. I have done this for people about 40 or 50 times (ex-T-Mo employee with a heart), and only lost about 10 of them. If you're up for it shoot me a PM and I will help you as best I can.
I am a repair technician by trade so the assembly was the least of my concerns. I noticed the inside did not get wet very much at all, I think the touchpanel connector got a drop in it, i made sure it was clean and i used a razor to skim a fresh metal surface for all the contact points on the phone. The phone is 100% functional as of right now.
It was quite a scary moment when the panel tested as fail, and the ROM seemed to be MIA.
Wow, only 30 min. I accidentally took my phone into a lake with me one and was swimming around for about 5 min before i remembered it was on me lol. It had alread powered itself off. I gave it 2 days to dry before powering on. A little excessive but at least it was a little longer than 30 min 0_o so lucky nothing fried. Glad your slide is still working
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
i dropped mine in a puddle. immediately tore it apart and placed it in bags of rice. it worked after a day of being in rice. didnt need to do anything else other than that. i did notice some sms and call issues after that but rooting it resolved the issue so i doubt it was a hardware issue
donepate said:
I have done this for people about 40 or 50 times (ex-T-Mo employee with a heart), and only lost about 10 of them. If you're up for it shoot me a PM and I will help you as best I can.
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never dropped a phone in water myself, my g1 hit a puddle once(not deep at all) but i still tore the thing apart and got the battery out before anything bad could happen. i try to help out my custs as much as possible, but so many of them just leave it on and don't think anything is wrong until it stops working a few days later.
the best thing to do is what was mentioned with the alcohol, my uncle dropped his phone in the lake and he turned it on a few times and i was still able to get the thing up and running within a day for him.

defy takes a bath and now battery go hungry

Hi.. yesteday i was on my pool and decided to take some pics with my defy...
Everything went fine till camera preview gets out of focus so i just closed camera app.
Then a couple of minutes later a warning message appeared on the screen saying something like "phone has a problem and needs to restart to fix it"... so i restarted phone but then it cannot get signal.
So i dry it with a towel and open back and take off the battery and leave it to dry on the sun for 10 minutes.
Now signal is ok, phone works completely normal BUT: Battery gets very hot and drains like 1% every 10 minutes (even on sleep mode).
I chequed cpu frecuency to verify if it doesn't stay on 1000mhz but it is not stuck, it changes to 300mhz normally...
Today i flashed an SBF and re-intalled CM7 from scratch but battery stills hungry... I have a new battery wich i bought last weeks and today i tested it (i was using old battery) and it's the same as the old battery so it's not a battery problem.
Any ideas? thanks
edit: i think i discover the problem: camera freezes phone when i take a shot, it's hardware related so i think it's time to change my old defy
happy christmas everyone
well... not a single response... i have disambled phone completely, removed camera and cleaned connectors with Isopropyl alcohol... camera stays out of focus and phone stills eating battery 1%/10 minutes... appearently defy is not so waterproof.
XJeFX said:
... appearently defy is not so waterproof.
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...well good luck with this problem. I have had similar problems when getting phones wet before.The only phone that I have had that could actually get completely soaked was the Verizon G'zOne. Sorry to hear about this. Maybe you can find a cheap one on eBay or CraigsList. Good luck and enjoy the New Year.

[Q] My phone got wet. Need photos. Works but has problems

I need to get my photos off my phone of my vacation
OK. Here's a good one.
I was on vacation at the beach. I had my Samsung Galaxy S5, running 5.0, in my shirt pocket. I forgot about it and sat in the water. I think I was in the water for like 2 minutes before I noticed. Took it apart and let it dry in the sun. Didn't look like water got inside, but who knows.
So the phone turns on fine and everything. After like 2 minutes, it says its overheating and and wont let me use any other apps except phone and contacts.
I need to get my photos off my phone of my vacation.
The charger port seems like it doesn't work. Wont take a charge or communicate with my laptop.
Wifi works. Connects to my network. Tried to upload photos to Google Drive. Got half way through 1 photo and then the phone shut down the program.
I need to know if there is a way to get my photos off. Is there a safe mode, or a bypass, or a way to turn off the overheating notice to upload things.
Or is there a way to fix the charging port? Please help me.
Thanks.
1) Post photos on fb it takes alot less time.
2) let it dry in sun for more time maybe it will get better.
Rice CAN be the solution
I've been saved a lot of phones with rice.
My s4, the moto G of my mother and a couple phones of my friends
thus video explain the right method
2~3 days on rice can be save your phone
PS: Xda don't let me post any link. Search on YouTube for Rice repair wet phone (have a lot of iPhone videos)
You know the S5 is waterproof right?
Probably taking it apart is what damaged it, take it apart again and check that anything that looks like a heatpad / heatsink is still touching the CPU/GPU

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