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Hopefully this isn't off topic.
What to look for if you still don't have it in your area:
Have had some issues the last few weeks with tmobile and noticed "funny" things like certain areas not having 3g but full edge when I knew they were capable of it. Most of the time this happened around 2am or later. Anyway I now can say without a doubt that HSDPA+ is in central Florida or in the process of being rolled out. Other odd issues I noticed was
Consistent min speed of 2.3mbit when before it was 500kbit min. Highest I got so far in my apartment which is a 3-4 bar area was 5.5mbit. Highest before was 1.5 and in a very strong 4 bar area close by 1.8 max. Upload still leaves *ALOT* to be desired with .23 to -.4 mbps upload. They seem to be using similiar technology to the burst seen on cable modems, ie road runner will give you 20mbit for their "turbo" with "bursts" up to 30mbit. This could also just be how hsdpa works anyway to make sure there aren't alot of re-requests for data due to a bad signal but it definately starts off around 300-500kbit and bursts up after 1-4 seconds to the faster speed.
Either way perfect timing tmobile.
I hope that's true. I've been having alot of 3g outtages lately.
JCopernicus said:
I hope that's true. I've been having alot of 3g outtages lately.
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I'm almost certain it is. I just called last night to complain about it because I was staying at my parents house sitting and it happened up there too, as well as by my girlfriend's house about 10 minutes down the road from my apartment.
I'm really bothered though by the upload speeds.. but i guess its whatever. It's either my area, or tmobile in general.. I've had a couple of swaps with the same issue so its not the phone.
As a side note.. does nexus support 21mbit hsdpa+?
no the nexus one only supports up to 7.2mbps
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no the nexus one only supports up to 7.2mbps
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ouch I was really hoping that wasn't the case. any that go beyond to 21mbps?
I wish AT&T upgraded the towers here. I can't tell you how many times I go into a classroom at UCF and there's no reception.
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I wish AT&T upgraded the towers here. I can't tell you how many times I go into a classroom at UCF and there's no reception.
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I'm pretty sure schools do that on purpose so you can pay attention in class.
The same thing happens at my university up here in Illinois, once you step outside the building, full bars again.
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Hey - starting last week, I noticed flaky things with T-mobile in Houston area similar to what OP stated. But over the weekend, I realized they were rolling out hsdpa+ and then the next day - full blown hspa. I'm so happy.
Before today, the ul speeds were .5 - .6. Today, I'm getting between 1.5 and 1.8 ul speeds!
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I'm pretty sure schools do that on purpose so you can pay attention in class.
The same thing happens at my university up here in Illinois, once you step outside the building, full bars again.
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More than anything its the wireless spectrum they use and the fact that you're in a large buildling. Depending on the frequency your provider uses you'll have better luck than some indoors.. generally its all the same. Of course the number of towers is important too. But for example LTE on 700mhz will give verizon LTE speeds 8-10 miles from the tower, 2500mhz on wimax will give sprint 2-3 miles from the tower. Higher frequency means more bandwidth available however.
I'm in engineering at UCF and pretty good reception in HEC and engineering 1 as long as you're not in the inner part of the building and those hallways and labs you're good. Brick walls = signal drop with anything but the lower frequencies and a well covered area. It's pretty strong coverage over here though on this side of campus.
They do have paint and stuff that have metal in it I think because its illegal to have a device that emits a radio signal to jam cellphones, however blocking it with shielding isn't. I'm pretty certain its expensive though. This was years ago that I saw that link on it... don't know if it still exists.
How big of a swath is it being rolled out to do you think? I am in Deltona and nothing has changed as of yet. I assume your talking about the Orlando metro area...
I am using the FRF50 radio by the way.
yeah you will get a increase in speeds due to the extra bandwith, but don't expect to get past the 7.2 mark, hell don't even expect to hit the 7.2 mark due to all the other factors.
not many devices out there to take full advantage of the added speed. new blackberry bold does........not sure what else, even the *cough* iphone 4 doesn't
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How big of a swath is it being rolled out to do you think? I am in Deltona and nothing has changed as of yet. I assume your talking about the Orlando metro area...
I am using the FRF50 radio by the way.
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I was up in deland when I noticed the problems 2 nights ago with the 2g and not going to 3g in an area that I knew had 3g. This was actually during the day. I just tested it again within the last day before leaving and it was working again. Give it a week or two and I'm sure you'll see it. It seems the whole area is being upgraded including you. I'm on the older radio... update-1 radio.
Also please report problems to tmobile as you see them. I'm going to report my ****ty upload speeds. Looking online it seems other areas have better upload than I do. I mean 200kbps max 400 and choppy is just terrible.
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yeah you will get a increase in speeds due to the extra bandwith, but don't expect to get past the 7.2 mark, hell don't even expect to hit the 7.2 mark due to all the other factors.
not many devices out there to take full advantage of the added speed. new blackberry bold does........not sure what else, even the *cough* iphone 4 doesn't
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ATT is only going to 7.1 HSDPA... at least offically announced as of a month ago.. I guess that could change.. They're doing LTE after that.
Re 3g in O-Town.
I have had full 3g bars when I visit my younger brother around Alfaya and UCF.
As far as off-topicness goes I do think XDA is large enough to need carrier forums..
But yes, 3G/2G switching where it previously wasn't, weak 3G, no 3G, 3G not working, are all signs that 3G is being worked on for HSPA+ which includes going from T1's to fiber backhaul
My sig shows what I get with my slow G1. This is in a high traffic area, where before it was .10Mbps during the same time, yes.. that slow and congested.
Also if you're not getting HSUPA you need to make sure your Nexus One has it enabled. Stock roms do have HSUPA enabled, some custom ones don't.
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I was up in deland when I noticed the problems 2 nights ago with the 2g and not going to 3g in an area that I knew had 3g. This was actually during the day. I just tested it again within the last day before leaving and it was working again. Give it a week or two and I'm sure you'll see it. It seems the whole area is being upgraded including you. I'm on the older radio... update-1 radio.
Also please report problems to tmobile as you see them. I'm going to report my ****ty upload speeds. Looking online it seems other areas have better upload than I do. I mean 200kbps max 400 and choppy is just terrible.
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Cool. I was discouraged back in January when they supposedly flipped the switch to HSDPA. As it turned out the backhaul wasn't here to support it. The max down I can remember is right at 1Mbps. Most of the time its around 900Kbps. Uploads usually come in around 350Kbps, with 500 being the highest I've seen. I live in Deltona, but work in Lake Mary and the speeds have been similar in both locations.
I hope that with this rollout everything will be in place.
HSDPA was already active on the network. The most they did was enable HSUPA.
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More than anything its the wireless spectrum they use and the fact that you're in a large buildling. Depending on the frequency your provider uses you'll have better luck than some indoors.. generally its all the same. Of course the number of towers is important too. But for example LTE on 700mhz will give verizon LTE speeds 8-10 miles from the tower, 2500mhz on wimax will give sprint 2-3 miles from the tower. Higher frequency means more bandwidth available however.
I'm in engineering at UCF and pretty good reception in HEC and engineering 1 as long as you're not in the inner part of the building and those hallways and labs you're good. Brick walls = signal drop with anything but the lower frequencies and a well covered area. It's pretty strong coverage over here though on this side of campus.
They do have paint and stuff that have metal in it I think because its illegal to have a device that emits a radio signal to jam cellphones, however blocking it with shielding isn't. I'm pretty certain its expensive though. This was years ago that I saw that link on it... don't know if it still exists.
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You can be right about that, but I think it's mostly older buildings to blame and not the fact that they did it on purpose to block cell phone usage. Classroom Building 1 has horrible reception and around it too. At my job (in Millican Hall) the reception is horrible at my coworkers office (but it could be because the office is near a lot of beams). So structure is sometimes the cause.
I also get almost no reception in my cousin's house. She lives a little bit past Pegasus Pointe.
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Hey - starting last week, I noticed flaky things with T-mobile in Houston area similar to what OP stated. But over the weekend, I realized they were rolling out hsdpa+
Before today, the ul speeds were .5 - .6. Today, I'm getting between 1.5 and 1.8 ul speeds!
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I think you mean HSPA. HSDPA wouldn't help your Uplink.
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Cool. I was discouraged back in January when they supposedly flipped the switch to HSDPA. As it turned out the backhaul wasn't here to support it. The max down I can remember is right at 1Mbps. Most of the time its around 900Kbps. Uploads usually come in around 350Kbps, with 500 being the highest I've seen. I live in Deltona, but work in Lake Mary and the speeds have been similar in both locations.
I hope that with this rollout everything will be in place.
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I use to get approximately the same speed at my apartment.. with a place I work on campus getting 1.8mbps down and .3-.5 mbps up and that was the best speed I've gotten around here. Its alot better now.. i'm sure they're still tweaking it.. I hope they are with the upload speeds.. its choppy and inconsitant.. sometimes just stops. Download did that a couple times too but that's probably related to the terrible upload (downloading needs upload to request the next bits of data to be sent.. it sends "acks" to acknowledge that the packet of data was sent properly). It's just really bad sometimes around UCF where it refuses to send a text, make a phone call, or go online as it just has that stuck up arrow thing. Really annoying.
I called tmobile to complain about the upload speeds and I guess they didn't want to fill a report out. Also HSDPA+ is only in Philly and there is no way I could get it in this area they claim.. gave me a hard time about things. So I asked what the max speeds I should be getting and I said well I'm getting much faster than that.. why is that? I think its cause I called twice recently and they already filled out one for each occasion. I had to really be forceful about them filling one out for me.. with the original person one not filling it out and then transferring me to pda support and then he didn't want to either. Both said they couldn't select nexus one as a phone when reporting a service issue and the second guy just decided to bull**** me off the phone the whole time after finally admitting that. I said bull cause I just had two filled out previously... they just kept discounting what I was saying.
Well 3g has always been slow about my area but T-Mobile just opened up HSPA+ in my town but I still get crappy speeds. I just ran a test right now with the speedtest.net app and the results are 0.23mbps d/l - 0.34mbps u/l with full bars of 3g. I think the best I have every seen was 0.96mbps d/l - 1.03 u/l.
I'm running CM6.1 nightly and was running froyo radio but changed to the new Korea radio to see if it helped but nothing. A while back while driving through Philly I hit 5.08mbps d/l - 2.88mbps u/l on the HSPA+ network.
I have played around with the build.prop and just can't find a setting for the speeds I "think" I should be getting. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking about going back to OTA Froyo from Google to see if that helps.
It seems to me it depends on where I am at, at home I get decent speeds, at my dads which is like 5 miles away I barely get edge, St work speeds are ok, and my friends house I have crazy awesome speed...T-Mobile signal strength is some what lacking depending on your location...inside of a building I could get edge, but if I go outside I get full 3g...
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It seems to me it depends on where I am at, at home I get decent speeds, at my dads which is like 5 miles away I barely get edge, St work speeds are ok, and my friends house I have crazy awesome speed...T-Mobile signal strength is some what lacking depending on your location...inside of a building I could get edge, but if I go outside I get full 3g...
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Well I contacted T-Mobile an apparently I am on the "Smart Phone Data Plan" and should be on the "Android Data Plan". I didn't know there was a difference but they said there was and to give it 3 hours and it should help with the speeds. I personally doubt it since people are getting great speeds from Web2Go and t-zone plans.
They also suggested I upgrade (for free) my sim card to a 3G(UICC) SIM card. So I guess I am heading to T-Mobile after work to upgrade.
Again I doubt any of this will fix my issues as I have hit 5.08mbps in Philly with this sim card and data plan.
It's their network I go through the same thing where I live
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Ok well the results after 3 hours of waiting.. I just did a speed test and got... 0.09mbps d/l and 0.47mbps u/l average after 4 tests. I'm pretty sure I get better speeds on EDGE. Needless to say I am heading up to T-Mobile after work to have a talk with them. This is crazy. Why pay for a data plan if it's going to be this slow.
Wow look at these blazing speeds..
Maybe this will help
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Well 3g has always been slow about my area but T-Mobile just opened up HSPA+ in my town but I still get crappy speeds. I just ran a test right now with the speedtest.net app and the results are 0.23mbps d/l - 0.34mbps u/l with full bars of 3g. I think the best I have every seen was 0.96mbps d/l - 1.03 u/l.
I'm running CM6.1 nightly and was running froyo radio but changed to the new Korea radio to see if it helped but nothing. A while back while driving through Philly I hit 5.08mbps d/l - 2.88mbps u/l on the HSPA+ network.
I have played around with the build.prop and just can't find a setting for the speeds I "think" I should be getting. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking about going back to OTA Froyo from Google to see if that helps.
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I was having speed issues also, so I edited my build.prop and now my speed is blazing fast. I'm a happy camper. I'm using evil's NXsense 1.26, before that cyanogenmod 6.1 RC1, I was having serious market issues, I couldn't install or uninstall apps with cyanogen. I edited the build.prop and things improved but not much, I would have to keep canceling download, and then reboot to install. I edited build.prop on evil's NXsense, and did a couple of speed test, I didn't have to because I noticed improvement right away. I just wanted to see some numbers, so I took three, one indoors, outdoors and with wi-fi. It doesn't matter if I can get 4G speed I'm happy with what I got, I have copies if my edited build.prop, I'm not sure if I can post it without the devs consent, a respect thing, you know. It's like a real gray area, but if you want to try and see if it helps, PM me
Well with the new sim card and new rom IM getting 2.48mbps down now. Not sure why cm6.1 was so slow but it was.
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running CM6 nightly 247 I too had those negative download speeds and 32 meg uploads
Heh i'm damn happy my network is always blazing fast even indoors (see my signature)
I modified the build.prop though to have ro.ril.hsxpa=2 and ro.ril.gprsclass=12
Running radio 5.12
Beautiful thing being rooted!!!!
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Well with the new sim card and new rom IM getting 2.48mbps down now. Not sure why cm6.1 was so slow but it was.
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That's decent speed, I'm sure your good with that.
So I really had to do a double take on this, and I honestly wouldn't believe it if I didn't have this evidence(after all, isn't the saying "pic or it didn't happen!") you're about to see. I have been checking the news lately and ATT had a quiet 4G announcement ceremony 20 hours ago, and a number of places are getting the HSPA+ switchover. Well, I decided to run speedtest and after running a wifi test first, I ran one HSPA test....1406 down, 1744 UP!!!!! I was shocked, and I immediately logged onto xda, excited to report the switch has been flipped, at least the software one; my Fuze running energy can get 2000 up from where I'm sitting; right before I was going to post this thread saying hey everyone they changed it, I thought wait, I don't want to cry wolf, so I went back into the app for 3 more tests. NO MORE HSUPA! I even walked to line of sight with the damn HSUPA enabled tower, and it was off again! WTFFFFFFFFFF!
Here are the pictures of said insanity:
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in a sense of irony, I found a weird ball of spiders today, when I uploaded the picture it assigned it the label:
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I would like to stick this ball of spiders inside Steve Jobs or the ATT CEO's mouth, for what they've done to GSM. Apple made them cripple the HSUPA, and they probably had a year exclusivity deal, which is why a year after the iphone 4 has HSUPA, we get it. Just my guess, I haven't heard anyone say that, but damn, my Fuze has had 2400 upload for years...
Here's another picture of that weird ball I found. It explodes when you touch it...
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If you can test your Atrix and provide a location in your reply, then we can make this a thread for reporting in areas that have gotten a possible switch. I have a feeling that over the next week changes are going to be made
And in case anyone is wondering why this is in development, well, as far as I'm concerned, this is a DEVELOPMENT, in ANDROID, for the ATRIX. It happens to be a developing situation,
Semantics, I love em!
PS I had to replace the periods with commas in the picture links because I've been a 3 year lurker, not poster.
Addendum
Sorry if I come off a little bit frustrated in my post, but I literally NEED HSUPA in 3 days for some work I'm doing with the national guard and homeland security. If the ATT network permissions are not changed in a couple days, I'm screwed and stuck with my damn Fuze. And that thing sucks! Call/End/Home/Back buttons broken, cannot answer calls because slide to answer disappears when I GET a call, and when I plug in the audio/charging dongle, it will randomly dial people in my contact list...including ex girlfriends...
Anybody dealing with that, would be irate.
No offense. this still doesn't deserve to be in this forum.
And just in case I'm not clear.. You should move it to general..
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In retrospect, no problem with that, except I tried editing and I didn't see a parameter to make this post jump to the other subsection; I'll try again, as I have no problem moving it...
Checked, and yeah, I feel like a boner, as I am failing to see any button to delete this post or another item to move it to a more appropriate spot. Hopefully the wise and all knowing Mr. Clown will swoop down on this stupidity of mine. Note to self: pay more attention during 2 am postings....
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Yes this should be in General, but also FYI... AT&T can't just "flip" a "software switch" and enable HSUPA on ANY phone. HSUPA is enabled or disabled by the modem installed on the phone, and ANY phone with HSUPA (say, a Captivate running an i9000 modem/kernel) will be able to use it on AT&T's network and they will get those speeds. The Atrix didn't ship with a modem that even HAS the REV6, it shipped with hardware that was "capable" of it, but a modem that was not, and as of the 4.1.57 update, they still haven't released a modem that is. You just stated that you did a wifi speed test right before... It is likely a result of cache files that you got the results you saw... In other words, a fluke.
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Rich, I wish I could say it was a fluke, but a couple of things here don't make sense for a fluke: if it was wifi, then why was the 1700 kbps down SUSTAINED? it didn't cut out, it only reverted to baseline UMTS after trying again a few minutes later. Second, my wifi would never put out such a low upload speed, I'm right next to the router, full bars 802.11n on a high speed connection that often upload reports 9 to 5 mbps, never lower. Third, my Fuze, a 3.5 year old device with an olllllld rom, most likely without the release 6 handshake, can connect to HSUPA at 1500-1900 kbps from my office chair, where I have been testing. LOS I get even better, but still, I don't think it was a mistake:
ATT is deploying their "4G". They are going to go live with higher HSPA+ speeds VERY soon, they just had the announcement. What I think happened is this, our phones, being the very well connected devices they are, are provisioned according to device type. I think when I momentarily connected for the first time in several hours, it provisioned me the HSUPA packetstream for a moment. Perhaps because they are changing software and/or equipment at many towers right now, there was a glitch, but right now I see zero evidence for the ookla app royally screwing up; check the pictures, it assigned me a HSUPA stream upon initial connection, sustained it for about 15 seconds, and then I rechecked it about 5 minutes later, and it was back to 360, the practical maximum for UMTS. So since these postings are getting pageviews despite its improper location(I haven't got the powers to move it to general), I would like people reading this to test their phone and chime in, especially if you don't live in the east bay in california like me. I know Orlando airport is supposed to be running HSPA+ right now....
The most convincing thing to me was, when it first ran and i got the typical dl speed of 1500, and then the ul of 1704, it behaved exactly like it was onthe network: the speed oscillated up and down like a realtime connection, losing or gaining dozens of bits during the test. It behaved like it connected with hsdpa and hsupa during every other connection i made with my fuze in ookla, winmo or aosp. And seeing as it(fuze) has the original radio and modem, idk about att's handshake explanation. Then again i make no pretentions of being a high speed packet access engineer....
It is a fluke. Same thing happens to my phone since day o f release. I get good upload once out of 10 tests
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
Guys he is right. Remember AT&T said they would be deploying HSPA+ in April. Well it is April. Now they never said when in April, but I can see them turning region by region on. I do agree it is more than just a switch. They add two more carrots in front of the donkey's to make them run faster so there network runs faster.
I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
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Nope that jump happens everytime. I just ran 10 tests and one uploaded at 1700.
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The speedtest apps on the market have very shoddy coding. It's a known fact. As everyone has been saying, it was a fluke, nothing more.
Bell Canada has HSUPA enabled network since Day 1,
but the software on the Atrix has been disabled HSUPA
so still not works
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I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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+1. HSUPA is available now but the modems on the Atrix are limiting us to 300 kbps. I have a Captivate that was limited to 300 kbps uploads. After rooting and flashing (with a different rom and modem) it gets 1500+ kbps upload.
HSPA+ is a different animal that won't translate to the Captivate.
So we're looking for two updates on the atrix.
1) HSUPA enabled...which can be done by AT&T w/ another OTA update that includes a new modem. This will work on the existing infrastructure and should give similar upload performance to the iphones.
2) HSPA+ enabled. I assume this will also require an OTA update but with the updated infrastructure, will bring much faster upload and download speeds (4G).
12/28/11 UPDATE:
The reason for the better speeds on the Skyrocket is that it uses the 'pta' apn instead of the 'phone' or 'wap.cingular' ones. The only way to use that apn is if you have an LTE sim card and you have an LTE data plan on your account (you won't get a data connection if you try to use that apn without the sim and data plan). So, I went to my local AT&T store and got a new sim and had them switch my plan and now I am able to get pings in the 50-70ms range and my download speeds have doubled. I'm sure this varies a lot from area to area but we will all need to upgrade to an lte sim and data plan eventually so you might as well do it now and try out the new APN. It made a significant improvement for me in central New Jersey. Good Luck!
Here are the apn settings that I copied from my wife's Skyrocket. Again, YOU MUST BE ON THE LTE DATA PLAN AND HAVE AN LTE SIM CARD FOR THIS TO WORK.
Name: ATT pta
APN: pta
MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication type: None
APN type: internet + mms
Any fields not mentioned above should be left blank.
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So yesterday I bought my wife the SGS2 Skyrocket (she wanted an iPhone, I wouldn't allow it). I started setting things up for her and did a speedtest to see how it compared to my i9100. WOW, that phone is blazing fast! And we are in central New Jersey where there is no LTE available so this was on HSPA+. I have only tested in a few locations, but at my house she got 6 mbps down and 2 up. I tested mine right after and I got around half that (and I have NEVER gotten 6 mbps down since I've owned my phone). These tests were consistent as I ran them multiple times. Her ping was also consistently around 60ms in many different locations with many different signal levels. My ping never goes below around 110ms. Needless to say, I'm displeased about this. I know there were a bunch of threads from months ago with some ideas about AT&T data speeds (I've read them all) and I've tried some of those ideas but nothing gets me close to what she is achieving on the Skyrocket. Here is what I've tried so far:
1) I noticed her phone is on that 'pta' apn whereas mine was on the 'phone' apn. I tried copying her information over but my phone would not establish a data connection when using the 'pta' apn. I researched it and found out this was because my phone is on the HSPA+ 4G plan and not the LTE 4G plan. This might have something to do with it but I doubt it. Last night I tried switching our sim cards. We were in an area with bad coverage but from what I could tell, her phone was still pulling better speeds. I was even able to use the 'pta' apn on my phone once I had her sim card but it still didn't improve much. I am going to try this again tonight at home where we get good signal. This will confirm that it is not the LTE sim card, the LTE data plan or the 'pta' apn.
2) I tried switching modems, flashed about 5 of them but there was not a significant difference in my speed between any of them. I even tried flashing a modem from the AT&T GSII (not the skyrocket), it still didn't have a noticeable improvement.
3) This thread talks about making some changes to the build.prop file to improve your HSPA speeds. I have tried these changes with no improvement. Perhaps there is some special configuration in her build.prop but her phone is not rooted so I can't look to find out.
I'm not sure what else to try at this point. Something very fundamental must be wrong because I expect an AT&T phone to be slightly better on their network (because the software is optimized for that network only), it shouldn't be twice the download speeds and half the ping time. I would be curious as to how the AT&T SGSII (not skyrocket) performs. Maybe the skyrocket has better hardware for the modem than our phone?
Any feedback is appreciated and if you know anyone with the AT&T versions of our phones, go ahead and compare your speedtests to theirs and report your results. Needless to say, I can't live with my wife having a faster phone than me so I need to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance!
The maximum theorical HSPA+ speed supported by hardware on the SkyRocket is 42mbps while the S2 is 21mbps. The processor on the SkyRocket is a Qualcomm because our Exynos chip doesn't support 42mbps.
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting thought but according to this page, the Skyrocket is also 21mbps HSPA+, same as our phones.
Hah ! I'm not sure, cos the SkyRocket amd the Tmobile s2 are supposed to be nearly identical. Can't find an exact quote by AT&T regarding this as well
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I get 6 Mbps down and 2 up with KL1 modem using the wap.cingular APN
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I get 6 Mbps down and 2 up with KL1 modem using the wap.cingular APN
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Ok I just tried the wap.cingular APN, I got the same performance as on 'phone'. What is your ping like? The Skyrocket was getting 50's and 60's consistently and I never approach pings that low in my i9100.
I have gotten as high as 8Mbps down and 2.2 up with the KL1 modem using the "phone" apn.
In fact at the office my GT-I9100 (the international version) is generally faster than my colleagues SkyRocket when testing download/upload speeds.
Dan
Wow, really? Do I have defective hardware? I know speeds vary a lot by location but the Skyrocket has consistenly been faster everywhere I've tested it so it proves the network is capable of much more than my phone is achieving. Also, I've never wiped my phone since I got it, could that be a factor (I doubt it because I don't have a single issue but I'm just throwing it out there).
Anyone else able to test their i9100 vs a skyrocket or at&t gs2? BTW I am currently using KL1 as well and don't get the results you are getting.
Compare tcp reveive window size and window scaling settings, also if there is a proxy defined in apn, sgs2 is not following it unfortunately....
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If there is a huge difference in ping it could indicate that skyrocket apn is "optimized" via special proxy. And as i mentioned, even u tried your wife's sim, sgs2 is ignoring it due to it limitation...
Only guessing...
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You should put your SIM in your wife's skyrocket, then call AT&T and ask them to put you on the LTE plan--assuming they don't charge more for this--then switch back and run some more tests. It could be that the pta apn isn't allowing the I9100 whatever increased throughput it is granting the skyrocket because you're on a different speed plan.
It's also possible that the Qualcomm HSPA+ hardware is just better (please don't lynch me for this suggestion).
Ok, thanks all for the input. Tonight I am going to try her sim in my phone with the pta apn. Then if the speeds improve I'll know thats the issue and I can work on getting my sim provisioned to the LTE plan as well. I know her sim is set up on that plan and will work with the pta apn so I'll be able to test it that way. I'll also put my sim in her phone and set up the 'phone' apn and try that, just to see. I'll report back late tonight or tomorrow with my findings.
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Ok I just tried the wap.cingular APN, I got the same performance as on 'phone'. What is your ping like? The Skyrocket was getting 50's and 60's consistently and I never approach pings that low in my i9100.
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down/up in kilobits per second
5894/1075 - 122ms ping
1551/1082 - 167ms ping
6806/1080 - 119ms ping
1160/781 - 121ms ping
..kinda all over the place but this is expected at 4pm
This is what I got a few min. ago using wap.cingular APN. Upload speed is on the slow side but download speed is on par as your wife's. Keep in mind, the test was performed in LA area around 16:45. I'm using DXKL1 modem.
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I'm interested to see how this turns out. I've been wondering the same thing. I know LTE is definitely faster but I still think that my speeds should be faster than they really are. Later this week I'm going to go to the AT&T Corporate store in my area and compare my speeds against some of their other "4G" devices and see where I fall.
So I tested my phone with my wife's LTE provisioned SIM card and got the same slow speeds. But, I then was able to change the apn to pta and try again and that did the trick. I started getting ping's in the 50-70 range and much higher download speeds (hit 6.5 around my house for the first time ever). So I can confirm that the Skyrocket gets better speeds because it is using the 'pta' apn. And to use that apn, you have to have an LTE SIM with the LTE data plan. I went to my local AT&T store today and upgraded my sim and switched that plan and I am now enjoying consistently better data speeds.
I will update the first post to reflect my findings so everyone will know how to get the better speeds.
On a completely different topic, we were in Brooklyn NY last night where AT&T has LTE coverage. I did a few speed tests on my wife's Skyrocket and WOW, its insanely fast. With just 1 bar of signal it got over 10mbps down and with 4 bars it got 58 mbps down and 17 mbps up. I couldn't believe my eyes but I ran multiple tests and all were incredibly fast. I don't know if AT&T will be able to maintain speeds like that once the network gets saturated but the idea of having substantially faster internet on my cell phone as compared to my FIOS internet at home is really insane. I can't wait for them to expand the LTE network, hopefully they get it up and running in New Jersey right in time for my next phone upgrade.
Just went to the AT&T store to get an upgrade for my dad. Did his upgrade and then was in the process of getting my LTE sim but their system wouldn't let them process the request. He told me to just come back tomorrow and he'll try it again.
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Cool, let me know how it works out. For me, they had to play around with the imei to get the system to allow the LTE plan on the account. I just told them that I sometimes put my sim in LTE compatible phones and I need it to work for when I do. Took him 10 minutes to fight with the system then he was able to get it to work. They did it for no charge and I was able to keep my unlimited data plan.
OK cool, I know there was no issue when I first did that for HSPA+ when I got my GSII. I'm going to try it again tomorrow. The guy that helped me out was cool and I told him he'd have to probably get the IMEI from one of their LTE devices to "activate" me. I also have unlimited so that's good to hear.
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Just left the AT&T store and got a great rep. I was literally in and out in 15 minutes, 12 of those were waiting for someone to be able to help me.
I updated my APN and can successfully connect to the "pta" APN. Ran it twice so far and ping is between 50-70 which is better than I have gotten so far. Thanks a lot for this btw. Hopefully speeds will improve slightly overall.
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Hello everyone,
I have been on CDMA carriers all my life and have just made a test switch to T-Mobile (to try out their $30 5GB plan), and I've got a HD2 up and running.
My problem is that the 3G works fine when I'm in a corresponding coverage area, but the EDGE connection NEVER works. In a really strong 3G/HSPA area, I can pull up to 600 KB/sec, which is great. On EDGE, I can never pull more than 1 KB/sec, if anything. More than half the time, when I try and run a speed test on EDGE, it just times out and quits. I was under the impression that EDGE was capable of at least 20-30 KB/sec (if not a little higher). I can make calls just fine, but the data is almost non-existent on EDGE.
Is my HD2 performing normally in EDGE? Does this happen to anybody else? I have full bars of EDGE, and still the poor performance. Could a few T-Mobile users post some EDGE speed examples? I just want to confirm whether or not T-Mobile's EDGE is really this horrible or if my HD2 is a special case.
I'm using the newest hyperdroid (NAND) and running the newest 2.15 radio. I've tried all combinations of T-Mobile APN settings I could find and they don't seem to fix anything. Multiple settings have worked for 3G, but none have worked for EDGE.
Thanks in advance, folks.
I'm also using hyperdroid 5.10. I'm not crazy familiar with how the apn settings work, so I ran 2 tests in case this matters.
Using 'simple' apn setting: ping 416ms, download 169kbps, upload 90kbps
Using 'tmobile' apn setting: ping 415ms, download 195kbps, upload 99kbps
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Thanks phoenix,
I did some traveling and tested EDGE in a different city, and it seems to work. I'm getting between 10-20 KB/s, which is acceptable. So the culprit is my hometown, which is a small, densely populated college town that's only covered by 3G where the stadium is located. The rest of it is EDGE, but there's full bars of it.
So here's another question. Do you think my lack of access is due to being on prepaid? I did notice that there are a few differences between postpaid and prepaid in terms of roaming abilities. The problem is that my town isn't considered a roaming area. There are a few areas outside of town that will be in gray areas.
I'll stop by a store later on amd see what I can do and report back. Surely someone else is experiencing something similar...
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When you say prepaid, you mean the no contract monthly plan? My wife and I are still on the 'Even More Plus' family plan that's no longer available, so we pay monthly with no contract without any data issues. I can't imagine why which plan would make a difference, but I've never tried it out. Also, since I live in a Houston suburb we have extensive coverage of 2g, 3g, and 4g, so it's a bit different than your situation.
You might try asking some local friends with T-Mobile to test their edge speeds, maybe it could help narrow down the issue to the network or your device/plan.
Best of luck to you.
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