Several reviews mention that the the S4 is sluggish compared to the HTC One. I was in the AT&T Store yesterday and did my own testing by restarting both phones to get to a fresh slate, then opening up different apps simultaneously. The first one I did was Facebook. On the HTC One, the app opened and the login screen appeared nearly instantly. Meanwhile the S4 was still loading the app, several seconds later the login screen appeared. This type of lag was consistent across multiple tests I ran.
I really like the HTC One, for many reasons, including the fact that it runs much more quickly, however I ended up ordering the S4 because it has the superior camera, which is very important to me (again, that statement is based on several reviews I've read and looking at a lot of pictures taken on both phones).
I'm somewhat regretting getting the S4, but I am hoping that there is a way to disable some of the bloat on the S4 without rooting to speed things up. The S4 has the faster processor, so the fact that it runs slower in real life I attribute to the fact that Samsung has so many stupid features baked into the phone. Perhaps it's something else, but whatever it is, how can I get the S4 to operate as quickly as the HTC One?
This is a good place to look to get rid of the lag. My S4 is much snappier after freezing some bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2310096
Sick of lag? Look here! [Tips and Tricks]
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I'll try some of those out...hopefully it will help!
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I recently got a hold of a Samsung Captivate and was amazed on how smooth and snappy the phone was, but couldn't help notice that it was faster than my Tab at stock. I mean apps were loading instantly and the browser running at lightning speed.
I compared the Captivate to different firmwares that I was using on my Tab, such as XXJM6 and JPJK2 which are the most recent ones.
Is it possible that the firmwares are still not fully optimized for the Tab? I thought most of the hardware was almost the same across all the Galaxies? I'm just concerned that maybe my Tab is defective.
Note: Forgot to mention that Market is also very slow to load in comparison too. It's instant on the Captivate without lagfix on both devices.
Now, I have a Samsung Vibrant and a Galaxy Tab and I have to admin there is little notices such as the market slower a lil bit slower on the tab, but other then thatthe tab is over all smoother then the vibrant.
Oh and in case this ever comes up both the Vibrant and Tab I have are stock.
xoltrix2000 said:
I recently got a hold of a Samsung Captivate and was amazed on how smooth and snappy the phone was, but couldn't help notice that it was faster than my Tab at stock. I mean apps were loading instantly and the browser running at lightning speed.
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One thing to bear in mind is that both the Tab and Galaxy S use the same processor and GPU. However, due to the increased resolution of the Tab, it is throwing around 60% more pixels to the screen than the Galaxy S, which will certainly be a factor in any performance differential.
FWIW, I've not noticed any significant difference in speed between my Tab and my HTC Desire, and anecdotally the Desire is just as fast as the S except in gaming.
Vis-a-vis the Market - usually, the slowness of the Market is at the Google end, not the device. It may be it's just handling the fingerprint differently.
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Dave
I am currently using gs2 and in love with the galaxy note 's massive screen.
One of the main reason I love gs2 was the extremely snappy user experience, no matter how many apps I open. It never slows down.
One thing I worrying about the galaxy note is that has the same snappy response like gs2 does? I read on some user reports on internet. Some says the galaxy note sometimes laggy and feel sluggish when you open few resources hog apps. Maybe not enough rams?
any input from experience user who switched from gs2 to galaxy note are appreciated. thanks
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darkinners said:
I am currently using gs2 and in love with the galaxy note 's massive screen.
One of the main reason I love gs2 was the extremely snappy user experience, no matter how many apps I open. It never slows down.
One thing I worrying about the galaxy note is that has the same snappy response like gs2 does? I read on some user reports on internet. Some says the galaxy note sometimes laggy and feel sluggish when you open few resources hog apps. Maybe not enough rams?
any input from experience user who switched from gs2 to galaxy note are appreciated. thanks
I had the same problem. Yes the Note was slower than the S2, that is mainly caused by a huge pile of bloatware that slows the cpu down. I would buy the phone, root it and install a good custom rom (KL3) and remove a lot of unnessary apps with root explorer. That really makes a world of difference, it`s faster now than the S2
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galaxy note has the same amount of ram, it just doesnt seem to maintain the same amount of free ram, at least not on the stock ROM.
when i first booted up my galaxy S2, it had 550mb free ram. when i first booted up my note, it only had 300mb or so of free ram. swapping launchers helps it a little.
but for the most part, a few apps will be fine. launch too many and gingerbread will manage the ram by dumping some of the unused apps.
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I had the same problem. Yes the Note was slower than the S2, that is mainly caused by a huge pile of bloatware that slows the cpu down. I would buy the phone, root it and install a good custom rom (KL3) and remove a lot of unnessary apps with root explorer. That really makes a world of difference, it`s faster now than the S2
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alternatively, wait for ICS in q1 2012, and take advantage of the fact that it lets you freeze bloatware without rooting.
I got em both and yes the GNote was a little sluggish with the stock software. But with the stock KL3 its a huge difference for me. Its now as snappy as my S2.
The only thing i notice is that scrolling in some settings lists and such can be choppy sometimes. And between homescreens if you have loads of widgets and shortcuts. But with ICS i think this device will be flawless (if you have big pockets )
I have had my note for about a week. I have updated to the latest ota update (KKA) and installed all my programs from my GS2.
I have no noticeable lag. Scrolling is fast and fluid and it seems as snappy as the GS2.
Thanks you all : ). I ordered my Galaxy Note !!
waiting for the delivery . I think it gonna be awesome hehe~
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People using Note 2 and S3 would know what I'm talking about.
If the Dialer and Contacts app are not in memory (e.g. the first time to launc) they can take upto 3 -5 seconds to load up in those devices.
This was a major pain point.
Is such a lag still present in S4?
Indeed it is! I tried it yesterday in a shop. I wondered the same thing and tried it. There it was.. the stupid lag even with its 2BG of RAM.
The crappy Samsung software is the reason I didn't bother getting the S4 after owning the S2 & 3. I sold my S3 on Ebay and bought an HTC One.
Another thing I realised after using another device is that Samsung's UI design is quite ugly. Not just the icons, but the colour schemes in menus and the general fonts and styling. Samsung could really do with some good designers to spruce up that UI. Its similar to my Samsung TV with its ugly graphical interface.
I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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true.. Note 2 is running 4.1.2 hence is faster than S4.. nevertheless, S4 is getting faster (using WanamLite) better battery life, smoother.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I too have used a note 2 stock and with many roms
and now have moved to S4 since 26 april and no doubt that S4 is fast and enjoyed using it and never wud want to go back to Note 2
this is my personal experience and havng abt 40 apps and not filled with any crap and keep the phone with only thing req
How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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Simple answer... new software needs time to get the bugs out.
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Android 4.2 needs fixing definitely , or perhaps optimisation on key lime pie will be better ... Hopefully
I noticed this one too. My friend has the Note II (I also had the same device a couple of weeks ago) and the device is noticeably faster than my GT-I9500.
same here.. i have both and note2 is faster in everything, specially taking photos.
No wonder my sister's s3 on 4.2.2 is performing terribly. Lag is prevalent and touchwiz keeps on crasing and restarting everytime she plays games.
To be honest the s4 is a disappointing upgrade over the note 2, this is one of the few times wherein I wished I stuck with my old phone lol You can't really tell the difference except with the screen and the battery life but there's a big 150 dollar difference in the price tag.
Hello
I have read many hours about this phone and will probably be my next device, but some questions before I make a final decision.
I have been a HTC user and always tried to give Samsung a chance but after a time the UI got so laggy, it turns me back to HTC with Sense.
This phone will be my Company/job phone and I don't want to make software every month to get it smooth again.
Have Samsung addressed the lag in Touchwiz? Do you have noticed any lag or slowdowns? For me the lags have always started and got worse after some weeks.
Any suggestions or help will make my decision easier.
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b-george said:
Hello
I have read many hours about this phone and will probably be my next device, but some questions before I make a final decision.
I have been a HTC user and always tried to give Samsung a chance but after a time the UI got so laggy, it turns me back to HTC with Sense.
This phone will be my Company/job phone and I don't want to make software every month to get it smooth again.
Have Samsung addressed the lag in Touchwiz? Do you have noticed any lag or slowdowns? For me the lags have always started and got worse after some weeks.
Any suggestions or help will make my decision easier.
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I've been using it for like 3 weeks now and I never noticed any lag even once! What I've read about is that Samsung is using extensive RAM management so if you open too many applications together, when you switch back to older applications, it reloads instead of resuming the session, never happened to me though but I don't keep much applications open at one time (may be 10 or so at most). You are right, the android devices are always fast when you take it out of the box and gradually start showing lags after a while (specially Samsung devices). However, I have more than 50 applications installed ( I use premium apps only, don't go for apps that load adds) including FPS games, Social Media, Podcasts, Utilities, etc. etc. and didn't notice any lag at all even if I don't kill any background application for days (I tried that). Even with 3 Gigs of RAM, I heard that S6 and S6 Edge doesn't show any lag so I'm assuming S6 Edge+/Note 5 with 4 Gigs of RAM would be better anyway. If you're thinking of getting it for Job/Business purpose, I don't see any problem at all with it.
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I've been using it for like 3 weeks now and I never noticed any lag even once! What I've read about is that Samsung is using extensive RAM management so if you open too many applications together, when you switch back to older applications, it reloads instead of resuming the session, never happened to me though but I don't keep much applications open at one time (may be 10 or so at most). You are right, the android devices are always fast when you take it out of the box and gradually start showing lags after a while (specially Samsung devices). However, I have more than 50 applications installed ( I use premium apps only, don't go for apps that load adds) including FPS games, Social Media, Podcasts, Utilities, etc. etc. and didn't notice any lag at all even if I don't kill any background application for days (I tried that). Even with 3 Gigs of RAM, I heard that S6 and S6 Edge doesn't show any lag so I'm assuming S6 Edge+/Note 5 with 4 Gigs of RAM would be better anyway. If you're thinking of getting it for Job/Business purpose, I don't see any problem at all with it.
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Thank you mate, it sounds promising.
What is the phone you have used before and can compare with?
for my part, i have used long times :
samsung galaxy S - S2 - S3 - S4
samsung galaxy note 2 - 3 - 4
lg g3
Htc one M8
iphone 4S - 5S - 6plus
And now my new galaxy s6 edge plus !
I can tell you, it's the first time i have the feeling of the smooth experience of an iphone, or htc one m8 in my hands with samsung
Impressive, really (50 apps, premium or not installed)
Imo you can close your eyes and go for it
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Thank you mate, it sounds promising.
What is the phone you have used before and can compare with?
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My daily driver was Note 2 - No phone could beat the battery life of this one
I've used S2, S3, Nexus 4 and Note 4. Never noticed much lag on Note 4 either, but with S6 Edge+, its even faster and responsive (or may be I tell that to myself since I spent $900 on it). Either way, if the budget isn't a constraint, this is a phone to go for this year!
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for my part, i have used long times :
samsung galaxy S - S2 - S3 - S4
samsung galaxy note 2 - 3 - 4
lg g3
Htc one M8
iphone 4S - 5S - 6plus
And now my new galaxy s6 edge plus !
I can tell you, it's the first time i have the feeling of the smooth experience of an iphone, or htc one m8 in my hands with samsung
Impressive, really (50 apps, premium or not installed)
Imo you can close your eyes and go for it
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How long have you been with your Edge+?
If it is as smooth as M8 or better i will definitely buy it.
One week only, because it's avaible in france since one week
i will see with some weeks,
but the difference its notable if i compare with the feeling of the firsts weeks of the phone i quote
I was a M8 user for a long time. I wouldn't say it's smoother than HTC (ARHD) but you won't notice any lags on Edge+ As for the battery I used to get around 7 hour SOT on my M8 (Custom kernel & Custom ROM) On here i'm still unrooted I get around 5:30 minutes SOT with texting and few YouTube etc. considering the higher resolution and higher screen resolution it's only natural.
Reassured you won't regret getting S6 Edge+
I will wait two weeks to see if the slow downs will be reported. It's promising to hear no lags, but they usually comes after some weeks.
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get note 5 or s6 edge+ plus, better then 3Gb ram.