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Strange battery issues

I'm running a Sprint Mogul using no2chem's nueROM 2.2 Preview 7 (8's touchscreen issues made me downgrade), and having some very peculiar battery problems I'm hoping someone has advice about.
A few weeks ago I woke up, pulled my phone from the charger, and watched the battery instantly drop from 100% to around 83%. Over the next 15 minutes it dropped to the mid-70s before leveling out and discharging at a more normal rate. This occurred the next day and so on. Now this was with Seidio's 3200mAh extended battery. I then switched to my (sigh) OEM battery and didn't have the same problem, so assumed it was Seidio's battery, filled out an RMA, and sent it off to be repaired.
Now a couple of days ago the OEM battery started doing the same thing. I'd pull it off the charge and it would have somewhere in the range of 60% battery remaining. I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly).
This morning I decided to watch the process from before I even unplugged it. First I noticed the orange light was on after a full night's charge. If memory serves me, the light's supposed to go out when it's at 100% (I may be mistaken). Meanwhile the battery meter was at 60%. I unplugged it and it remained there. I plugged it back in and watched no2chem's charge meter show the power connection, and I went ahead and left it plugged in for a little while before checking it again. It was now at 63%.
So what I'm finding is that at some point during the night my phone stops accepting a charge, despite the charge light remaining on.
I'm going to experiment with two things to further troubleshoot: tonight I'm swapping chargers with my wife's. I'm pretty sure the phone controls whether or not it's continuing to charge the battery, but I'm going to rule this out the only way I can. Then if that doesn't improve it I'm going to flash back to a Sprint official ROM (sigh) and see if maybe no2chem's power applet or power management settings are somehow causing this oddity.
Does anyone have any extra experiences with problems like this that might give me an idea of what else to try? Otherwise my thinking is if those two steps yield no improvements, then it's the phone's physical battery management hardware that's faulty and I'm going to have to use my insurance to replace the phone. I'd like to exhaust all the other resources before I spend the $50 on the deductible, though.
Thanks!

sometimes mine overheats while charging, at that point the LED flashes orange until it cools down enough to resume charging, this might be happening to your in the middle of the night

I thought I heard purple meant overheating. Either way, it's not clearly describing it. Also this has never happened before, so if it's happening every single night now, I've definitely got a problem.
Anyway, just plugged it in with my wife's charger. Let's see how it turns out in the morning.

You said :
"I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly)."
Sure sounds like a bad charger.

worwig said:
Sure sounds like a bad charger.
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Now confirmed. Just pulled it off my wife's charger after a full night, at 100%. Five minutes later, 99%. Much better. I wonder what would cause the charger to stop charging halfway through the night, but keep the charge light on. Well, at least the mystery's been solved.

I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.

jeffgman said:
I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.
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DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.

worwig said:
DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.
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Yes, I noticed the 1% increments, I figured it was Windows Mobile 6.1 compared to 6.0. I think the old method was reporting in 5% blocks.
So, your battery never shows 100%? Very weird. So, my battery is probably fine and it is probably behaving just like it always has?
Thanks for the information.

Charging Issue

Has anyone ever had an issue where by their battery life is at say 59% and when i plug it in to charge rather than the blue charging icon appearing it just showing the battery being 100% and the LED doing successive double flashing as opposed to a static LED like i should be if it was charging?
I've not installed anything, flashed a new rom etc, was fine yesterday.
All i did was have a little play with CHTEditor.

somethings not right, it must be something to do with me messing about with CHTEditor
out of the blue my lock screen had gone, and it says i have a voice mail waiting when i dont. haha
Hard reset i think

update...
hard reset not worked...uhoh

Same problem here
I was in a phone call an al of a sudden everything just went black and rebooted. Turns out the phone stopped charging and flasing green and red. Battery ran out of power and the phone shut down. After the reboot the phone charged normally again
Another situation:
Phone started acting up again and endend in a reboot. Battery was empty and i made a phone call on the charger. during the phonecall the same problem happend again, but the battery was at 9%. I intended to unplug the charger and plug it back in, but after the unplug the battery jumped to 0% and shut down.
So, i think the battery is acting up. Having to charge the thing every damn day is finally taking it's toll.

Wizzkid007 said:
Same problem here
I was in a phone call an al of a sudden everything just went black and rebooted. Turns out the phone stopped charging and flasing green and red. Battery ran out of power and the phone shut down. After the reboot the phone charged normally again
Another situation:
Phone started acting up again and endend in a reboot. Battery was empty and i made a phone call on the charger. during the phonecall the same problem happend again, but the battery was at 9%. I intended to unplug the charger and plug it back in, but after the unplug the battery jumped to 0% and shut down.
So, i think the battery is acting up. Having to charge the thing every damn day is finally taking it's toll.
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The phone seems to charge ok when switched off, i will leave it as it is till im home from work and wil have a tamper with it.

phone is now charging ok, just need to get rid of this voicemail notification now.

hmm and everything back to normal. must be its time of the month

djchubbs said:
Has anyone ever had an issue where by their battery life is at say 59% and when i plug it in to charge rather than the blue charging icon appearing it just showing the battery being 100% and the LED doing successive double flashing as opposed to a static LED like i should be if it was charging?
I've not installed anything, flashed a new rom etc, was fine yesterday.
All i did was have a little play with CHTEditor.
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tis happens to mine (not allways) hd2 when using non htc battery.
do you have original batt?

bRkiX said:
tis happens to mine (not allways) hd2 when using non htc battery.
do you have original batt?
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yep, using the original battery, it seems to be ok now, charging as it should.
ahh well. cheers for the reply

one last this, how the hell to i get the lock screen back, i think im being dim.
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sorted

I have a program BsB Tweaks that has a setting for the lockscreen. Try that.
My phone is also charging fine when turned off, also it functions fine at the moment. i think it has something to do with overloading the device when the battery is low. Based on that its not possible to turn on any phone when the battery is in attached but the power is, i think everything is drained from the battery while charging it and that when overloading the battery just doesn't pull it anymore.
i don't have a alternative battery, mine is original.
What are the symtoms when the battery is at the end of it's life? does it do this, or is it supposed to give a warning or something?
edit: i am unable to find a manual page describing the different modes the LED could be blinking. I'm curious what is says about the red and green blinking mode. Does such a page exist?

Battery icon has yellow triangle and thermostat icon

Hello all,
I left my phone charging over night as usual. When i woke up i was surprised it had only 32%. I plugged the charger back in, but the phone wouldn't charge. I restarted the phone and when it booted up it had 60%
After some standby time it showed 50% .. really confusing. I pulled the battery out and when i plugged it back in and "before" turning it on. The green battery icon came on flashing with yellow triangle and red thermostat (see pic).
It won't boot up until i plugged in the charger. I left charge until 100% and tried to restart. I got the same icon again and had to plug the charger in.
Anyone know the meaning of this? Battery app showing temp as 36C after boot up. Now it shows 34C. I did attempt battery stat wipe too.
Please share with me your thoughts.
EDIT: I returned mine for a replacement. After that, my nephew admitted that he spilled something right over the usb.

I had a similar problem. When the icon comes up plugged in, yank the battery out and shove it back in.
If that doesn't work, when plugged in take the battery out, unplug the phone, put the battery back in, and then plug it in.
It worked for me!

steve228uk said:
I had a similar problem. When the icon comes up plugged in, yank the battery out and shove it back in.
If that doesn't work, when plugged in take the battery out, unplug the phone, put the battery back in, and then plug it in.
It worked for me!
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HEY!! that worked for me. Thank you sooooo much

OK guys, it came back again. The issue is not resolved. Perhaps a battery failure?
I waited for my battery to completely run out. Then charged it all the way up. Then a simple battery pull out and in takes it down to around 80% ?!
Strange stuff here.

steve228uk said:
I had a similar problem. When the icon comes up plugged in, yank the battery out and shove it back in.
If that doesn't work, when plugged in take the battery out, unplug the phone, put the battery back in, and then plug it in.
It worked for me!
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Sounds like a very delicate procedure xD

it seems i am the only one with this issue :/

Sounds like the battery just isn't being calibrated correctly.
Let it drain fully and then take it out and put it back in. Chances are it'll turn back on. Let it drain again until it shuts off and then charge fully while the phone is off.
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late update ... got a replacement .. i tried everything ..

i've this problem..
does anyone resolved it?
i don't want return it to samsung...

Same problem here. The phone is "charging" even without the charger plugged in (!) When I turn off the phone a green battery icon with a yellow triangle and a red thermostat is flashing. Can't turn it on without a charger plugged in Tried everything. Anyone else suffering from this?

Babylonian said:
Same problem here. The phone is "charging" even without the charger plugged in (!) When I turn off the phone a green battery icon with a yellow triangle and a red thermostat is flashing. Can't turn it on without a charger plugged in Tried everything. Anyone else suffering from this?
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Looks like similar problem, read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588
Summary post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15924419&postcount=13
Probably your USB got polluted or bended.

i also think it is a usb issue. i updated the original post. By the way before i returned it for a replacement i tried using a qtip and "contact cleaner" and sprayed some on the usb. After 30 mins i was able to charge normally before it was acting up again.
Bottom line: clean your usb.

Cheers a bunch for your replies! Gonna clean my usb again & carefully "bend" it down a bit. I'll post the results later

Hahaha I laughed so hard in a bus after reading your edit. What a cute nephew
I feel sorry for you though

Tried everything, including a couple of factory resets/wipes. Sent it to the service center yesterday

For me the main idea from using SGS2 for cpl of weeks before selling this crap:
'Do NOT buy korean smartphones !!!'

lynzoid said:
For me the main idea from using SGS2 for cpl of weeks before selling this crap:
'Do NOT buy korean smartphones !!!'
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I cannot disagree more. This is the most fantastic phone I've ever had. Feel free to check my signature. I've had worse. Haha. Much worse. This phone has only lagged twice in the months I've had it and I had to do a battery pull once. I've had my iPhone 4 crash more times than this phone.
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I've had charging problems with my SGS2 as well. All of a sudden it started switching tap&talk on and off. Turned very warm and drained the battery juice.
When I attached the charger, it didn't show signs of recognizing that it was attached. I tried to switch it off, and on again with cable connected. Then it started charging, but if I unplugged and tried again it failed again.
So I had to send my beloved SGS2 for service. Now heading on to two weeks without it, i'm growing desperate from having to spend the time with my old Samsung Spica.

Have a look at the charge port problem thread in general. Few of us have had this problem for various reasons.
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i also have a kind of similar problem on my S2, suddenly it stopped charging, when i plug it in i tries to start up but isn't able to & then restarts.
i get the normal battery sign when you plug it in after the battery completely dies (no thermometer), nor does the phone or battery gets hot. is there any solution or should i just take it to a service centre? BTW my phone is rooted & loaded with a custom ROM.

[Q] Mytouch 4g died in sleep?

So, this phone was working without any problems but then my wife turned it off and left it in the drawer for about 3 weeks when she went overseas. When she got back and tried to turn it on it wont turn on. We figured it might have drained the battery so we plugged it in but now its not charging either! When I unplugged and plugged in, the LED blinked orange once but now it wont even do that either, no power, no LED, not charging either. I have tired everything, left it disconnected, battery out for an hour, then put it together and tried to charge, still nothing.
Any ideas? It is already out of warranty so talking to T-Mobile is out of question.
Nothing has been done to it, it is physically fine, it was just off for a long period and not it just wont respond.
Edit: Fixed it! I don't know what, I was almost giving up, but I took the battery out and blew hard on the battery contacts in the phone and in the charging port then plugged everything in and put it back on charger, orange light started to blink and then went solid and now its charging. I just turned it on. This phone is dodgy, no other phone hard bricks like this if you leave it off.

Some phones don't function with completely discharged battery. Actually, most of newer phones. You need to leave the battery inside and the phone connected to charger for some time, till the charging light shows up. MT4G is very far from being "dodgy", doesn't differ from many other phones that behave the same, and you were nowhere near "hard brick".
Good luck in powering up Motorola Defy with completely discharged battery.

Recoverable problem
syl0n said:
So, this phone was working without any problems but then my wife turned it off and left it in the drawer for about 3 weeks when she went overseas. When she got back and tried to turn it on it wont turn on. We figured it might have drained the battery so we plugged it in but now its not charging either! When I unplugged and plugged in, the LED blinked orange once but now it wont even do that either, no power, no LED, not charging either. I have tired everything, left it disconnected, battery out for an hour, then put it together and tried to charge, still nothing.
Any ideas? It is already out of warranty so talking to T-Mobile is out of question.
Nothing has been done to it, it is physically fine, it was just off for a long period and not it just wont respond.
Edit: Fixed it! I don't know what, I was almost giving up, but I took the battery out and blew hard on the battery contacts in the phone and in the charging port then plugged everything in and put it back on charger, orange light started to blink and then went solid and now its charging. I just turned it on. This phone is dodgy, no other phone hard bricks like this if you leave it off.
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Had a similar problem. Phone died while using it then wouldn't light up when plugged in. Left it plugged in for half an hour wouldn't seem to charge via wall or car charger. Tried doing a hard reset with/without the battery & plugged in/not plugged in in various combinations. Got nuthin. Drove around for hours looking for a replacement or open T-Mobile place, until it got too late and I went home. Live chat with T-mobile rep was a waste of time. Plugged it in the wall and left it, as this once brought back a G2 battery that I thought was cold dead. Five hours later it was lit up and charging, showing 40% charge on the battery indicator app once I turned it back on. "HTC Sense" crashed immediately on boot then recovered. Seems to be fine so far.
- Suggestion; plug it in and leave it overnight if it seems cold dead and doesn't appear to be charging. It seems to need to hit some critical threshold before it will work again (as indicated by previous poster). Also pick up a couple spares off amazon or newegg if you don't have a second phone available.

Charging intermittently stops and resumes rapidly

My 6P on 6.0.1 stock with the march update has had occasional times where it will intermittently charge, then stop, then charge endlessly, changing back and forth about once a second or more often. There's been times I've woken up, like today overnight when I noticed it barely inched up a percent or two on the Google USB-C cable connected to my laptop.
To isolate this from being a defective cable issue, this has also happened with the Google charger that came with the phone. I would see the screen turn on in fact, like when you first plug the phone with the screen off, to indicate charging has begun. That would occur every few seconds.
I'm a little concerned. The time it happened with the charger, a reboot seemed to have calmed it down. But today no matter the restart, the charging just keeps cycling nonstop.
Anyone else had this? Would it be wise to file a problem with the Google forums and contact support?
Thanks for any help!

Same problem here

Dang, good to know I'm not alone!
I've also experienced higher battery drain (twice more I'd say) than normal recently. Even overnight when I used to see hourly drain rates of 0.5%, now I see 1.5% and higher. Getting worried the charging issue may be damaging the battery. But it could also be the patch or a rogue app.

I have the same issue - it started about 3 days ago

Well either the cords bad, the brick is bad, or the receptacle. Or the charging port on the phone, the battery or power control module in the phone. Or if theirs a thick case on your phone.
Sounds like it starts to charge then stops. But I'm no electrician. Oh wait, yes I am.

It starts to charge, then stops as though the cable was disconnected, then resumes within half a second, then disconnects, and so on and so forth non stop.
Case might be a reason. It's a rubber and plastic transparent Spigen one. I'll try removing it when it happens again next time.
But at this rate, sounds like 3 people are having the same issue, and if it's a hardware one, then damn....

This isn't the charger... There is something buggy with the update. I woke up a few days ago after the march update with an almost dead phone, and the charging icon flashing over the battery, as if the phone new it was plugged in but refused to charge. I unplugged and plugged it back in with the same result. I restarted and tried again, same result. I was only able to get it to charge my plugging it into my girlfriend's nexus 5x charger, which instantly started charging my phone. I went back to my charger and all of the sudden no issue and the phone was charging fine. There is definitely something up with this update.

Well then, that makes 4 people now.
What's a good way to report this?

I'm not seeing the same exact issue as you guys, but I AM having charging issues after updating to MHC19I. I can still charge my phone from the stock charger and my other USB-C chargers, but now none of them allow my phone to charge rapidly. Do you guys who can get your devices to charge from a rapid charge compatible charger see the "Charging Rapidly" message on the lock screen? Ever since this recent update, I've noticed that my device isn't (and is taking over 2 hours to charge fully from ~20%).

I have this problem too. It's fixed by a reboot so I'm assuming it's not a hardware problem. It only happens once a week or so.
The first time it happened I didn't notice the charging/not charging and only realised something weird had happened because my phone was off & showing fully charged. My phone is never switched off.
I figured it out the next time when I noticed the screen was still on during the night. Switching from charging to not charging was keeping the screen on.
So glad it's not just me.

flightsimmer said:
I'm not seeing the same exact issue as you guys, but I AM having charging issues after updating to MHC19I. I can still charge my phone from the stock charger and my other USB-C chargers, but now none of them allow my phone to charge rapidly. Do you guys who can get your devices to charge from a rapid charge compatible charger see the "Charging Rapidly" message on the lock screen? Ever since this recent update, I've noticed that my device isn't (and is taking over 2 hours to charge fully from ~20%).
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I normally see it say that on the USB C charger. That being said, you seem to have an intermediate speed going on, as opposed to super slow normal USB cable speeds and the USB-C fast charger. In my experience most 1-1.5V low amp ports like my Mac's, or the car's USB port will charge at a rate of about 1% per 3-5 minutes. So a full charge would take 8-9 hours from 0%. From the USB-C wall charger it would be about 1%/m so an hour and forty is enough to get it back to full.
Based on that your charger seems to be somewhere in the middle.
But yes it isn't normal. If you are using Google's native hardware, you should see the same charging speed as I am.
I'm just terribly worried this cycling is destroying my battery. I have definitely not gotten the same battery life the last few weeks.

Hey guys!
I experience sort of the same problem as you guys, but i have the Nexus 5x
i copy from my thread at google nexus forum
My phone just randomly die. It will work for like 2 hours. Almost like the battery would been disconnected.
When the phone shutdowns it says the battery is low and try to charge. The Battery icon with a flash is showing, but just for 5-7 seconds, then it shutdown again and it's looping again and again and again.... To get out of the loop i'm booting in to fast boot, then push at start. and it is almost 50/50 if it is working. It can be booting up and you see the red/yellow/green/blue yada yada boot-up sequence then in 5-7 seconds in to the sequence it would shutdown again immediately.
I tried several factory-resets. re-flashed to stock. Nothing helps.
/marcus

Same issue
Just starting having this issue. It constantly says charging then a second later shows no charging and the process keeps repeating itself. I did a reset and the issue seems to be resolved for now. Really hope this isn't a constant issue. Definitely appears to be software related though.

zxphenomenalxz said:
Just starting having this issue. It constantly says charging then a second later shows no charging and the process keeps repeating itself. I did a reset and the issue seems to be resolved for now. Really hope this isn't a constant issue. Definitely appears to be software related though.
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I hadn't had it for a while then recently it happened again once. I still don't know what triggers it for sure.
The battery drain is also rather random. There are days I can expect the unit to idle and drain at or below 2%/h, but lately it just goes through it way faster, twice that. I am unsure why and how that happens so randomly. Seems the Google Play Services and Google Apps are using up some %s. Not much else I can identify.

I've had this issue since a few days ago, restarted the phone and it's come right for now.

Haven't experienced this in weeks now.
Seems largely gone.

Any updates on this? My Nexus 6P started showing the same symptoms (either won't charge at all, or charging cycles on and off rapidly (< 1 second) and only sometimes charges). The issue appeared out of the blue 4-5 days ago, just before the 1 year anniversary of receiving the phone. I tried different cables and adapters, still no change. Last night at 11pm it was at 50% when I set it to charge and it seemed to charge. This morning at 6:30 am it had only charged up to 83% and was charging on and off. Worried about how to reliably use the phone if it won't charge, and also how this might affect the battery / other circuitry.
Any help/tips appreciated!
Edit: The phone hasn't been dropped or had any other issue that may affect the hardware. Also, no OS update or anything recently (AFAIK - it did not ask me to install anything, not sure if there were any silent updates). It is currently on Android 7.0 Nougat (baseband version angler-03.72, build NBD90X, security patch level Oct 5, 2016).

Have not had this in a long time. It sort of stopped on its own. :S

Solved (for me anyways)
I just had to restart the device.

I'm having the same issue on my LG G5. Started out of the blue and like others, restarting temporarily solves the problem. Anyone solve this yet?