I just recently got LTE on T-mobile here in Tucson, AZ. I noticed I am now getting LTE signal in places I couldn't even get 3G before. My question...does LTE in general provide better coverage, or is it just because T-Mobile perhaps worked on expanding their coverage in my area?
I'm pretty sure they're doing both.
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scream4cheese said:
I'm pretty they're doing both.
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Well isn't that freaking awesome
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Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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Lucky, I get 50~400 kbps
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I've been getting great speeds as well.
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What happened that led to these faster speeds all of the sudden?
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Matt!
Sprint is upgrading their 3G network in advance of the iPhone launch next week. thisismynext.com had a few articles about it. I think it's both adding towers, and moving voice to a different frequency so data is not so congested.
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Its called sprint network vision. Nothing to do with the iPhone.
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The timing of the rollout of the network upgrades has everything to do with the iPhone--specifically, with being ready for the heavy additional traffic that will hit their data network as soon as they release the iPhone. Sprint said that specifically in their conference on Friday. Can you imagine the bad press Sprint would get if reviewers compared 3G speeds of the 3 carriers of the iPhone 4S and Sprint was showing <400 kbps?
Ouch I forgot how bad sprint 3g was 5mbps on Tmobile 3g and almost 9 on hspa.
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Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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cchase231 said:
Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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Same **** here in Miami. I called earlier about it and it didn't really get anywhere.
where are you located
I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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What are you getting for a ping? Download ping off the market and run a continuous ping to Google.com. I get 1mbit down with a fluctuating ping between 80-130ms. Spikes up past 400 once in a blue. Its not stable whatsoever. Pisses me off. I'd be able to enjoy this bf3 beta a bit better lol
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How about a change in radios? Might that help?
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I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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Highest i ever saw on wimax was 10mbps which I can almost hit on good hspa. :/
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If I had consistant access to 10mbps I would be fine with wimax. There is only one wimax tower near me me and its coverage stops about a mile from my home. Even when I can connect to it I have only seen speeds up to 7mbps, with 5 being the norm. Heck, I would even be fine with that if the coverage was even mediocre. However, the 4g coverage is atrocious around me and is unusable unless you are outside. Sprint has there work cut out for them, i think it will be years before we see any fast, reliable speeds. I just hope metro detroit is one of the first areas they upgrade since they hosed us on the wimax coverage, but I'm not holding my breath as I would think they would start upgrading towers before building new ones. Ill just have to keep taking comfort in the fact that my bill is half as much as it would be on verizon.lol
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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CDMA EVDO Rev. A is capped at 3.1mbps, on paper. Where GSM 3G is at 7.2mbps. Technically, in good coverage, I should see at least 700kbps on Sprints 3G. Unfortunately for me, Sprints network is horrid.
I tried the NS4G under Sprint's trial (about 5 months ago). I couldn't even watch Slingbox or hardly stream anything due to the slow rev.A CDMA network.
I ran back to my AT&T NS.
I'm sure the network Vision project will bring good things, as will AT&T's (and Verizon's) network upgrades, but Sprint simply is not there yet.
Shame cause I like the way they roll. That and the fact that I had Sprint for many years until the O.G. iPhone came out on AT&T (been with AT&T since then). I've always wanted to return to Sprint, but I just can't given the slow 3G speeds currently. Plus it's nice to use simultaneous data and voice.
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I'm impressed used it normally today no charging
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Must be nice having good sprint signal
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Must be nice having good sprint signal
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Speaking of which what's funny is my Epic will have 2 bars out of 4. But my NS4G will have 4 and in most spots they are the same but usually has better signal. But on my epic even with 4 bars on 3g I can't get decent speeds. and on 4g with 2 bars the best I can get is 400Kbps even though it speedtest says 5Mb/s I never see those speeds at all.
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Hey guys, I was just wondering if someone could help me out because I'm kinda ocd about seeing it as H+ instead of 4G for HSPA+. Thanks!
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HSPA+ isn't 4G.
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HSPA+ isn't 4G.
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Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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Fataldesain said:
Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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I agree but the 3G/4G terminology is a bit screwed. The current "3G" release is 100x faster then the original 3G release. Yet the current 4G release is only 2.5x faster then the current 3G release.
Which is why Android refers to it as H. It should probably stay that way.
But I get 22Mbps on my N4 on DC-HSPA, which isn't as high as you, but I know how you feel. But I live on a continent that's completely GSM/HSPA/LTE, so I never really had the CDMA 3G problem.
Is there anyway to enable 3G/wcdma only after rebooting??
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Hi, I hope you're well.
Please allow me to ask my stupid question of the day.
I am a T-Mobile post-paid customer on contract, and I am using a LG Nexus 4. T-Mobile will likely start having LTE soon, so I was wondering if that will affect the Nexus 4 in any way, positively or negatively (probably not negatively, but as I stated, this is a stupid question).
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Vic
probably not. lte capabilities were disabled in the .48 baseband which came with the 4.2.2 update.
Hard to say, as the Nexus 4 does not "officially" have LTE. Google disabled the limited LTE connectivity in the 4.2.2 update as the N4 was not approved by the FCC for LTE.
Unless Google refiles, I wouldn't expect any official LTE updates.
But, that doesn't mean you can't try out the older radios (that still have LTE) as some people have had success using them (no sensor issues or voice/sound issues).
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
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Vic
VicVicVicx said:
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
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Vic
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yes..
My N4 is being returned, but I did get 16mbit down yesterday on HSPA+, which is amazing to me considering my home caps out at like 12 I think. Frankly, considering the marginal real-world gain you would see on LTE, I think the phone is probably better off not using that LTE antenna.
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yes..
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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Please please please stop saying that.
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chrisrozon said:
Please please please stop saying that.
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You can't handle the truth
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cesar521 said:
yes..
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Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Maybe they will introduce the nexus 4lte in the Google io.... Which is what all of us have now
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joshnichols189 said:
Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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You have to use the new apn, "Fast.T-Mobile.com" and change ipv4 to ipv4/ipv6. But the rest of the apn is the same as epc.tmobile.com.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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42 is the theoretical throughput, once you account for real world inefficiencies and data reserved for network services, 22 is a fantastic result.
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It really depends your area, on average lte will be faster especially upload. In most major cities LTE will probably smoke HSPA. The most I ever hit with HSPA was 18down 2up and lte was 56down 35 up in Toronto.
HSPA is no slouch though, just the upload is rough. If you upload a lot LTE is a must.
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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LTE pings are usually low. so stuff pops up faster on the phone compared to hspa+. You would not see much difference when downloading something because the down speeds aren't too different. As far as picture uploads are concerned, they will happen much faster w/ LTE.
Does anyone have one in the GTA? I love this phone but not sure what the data speeds would be. I'm with bell. Was reading ghat in some US markets the hspa+ was faster than the LTE.
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nursemaned said:
Does anyone have one in the GTA? I love this phone but not sure what the data speeds would be. I'm with bell. Was reading ghat in some US markets the hspa+ was faster than the LTE.
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In places where LTE is prominent, it is faster than any alternative. I think Bell and Rogers have pretty good LTE, especially in Toronto. So I don't see why it would be a problem (assuming the Find 5 is LTE capable).
It doesn't have LTE.
Speed on lte cant be beat by hspa... at least not in toronto...
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Thanks for the replies. I decided against because no LTE and went with the HTC One Dev.
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