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I have started working on an app for Windows Mobile 6 phones w/ GPS to do run/walk/bike tracking like the Nike+. Here is a little Video of the app in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIqKHCb21cg&feature=channel_page
Version 0.6.5 9s attached
- Smartphone detection is in
- Run Form updated to be smartphone happy, view log is next.
Version 0.6.4 is attached
- Calories burnt calc!!!! (put your weight in...lbs for now...kg coming )
Version 0.6.3 is attached
- 1 Mile/KM kills the app bug fixed!
Version 0.6.2 is attached
- I am not dead! I promise
- This is mostly a maintence update. All the tracking code has been pulled from the views and put off in modules (as it should have been from the get go) so I can get a Smartphone version working soon.
Version 0.6.1 is attached
- Audio updates - new sounds for mile/km passed and distance goal hit
- Audio updates - updates to how the power management is dealt with for audio, still not perfect, but better
- Center button (on your direction pad) now turns the display off and on and also it stops the phone from sleeping when you use that display off method. This is great for phones that get a bit wierd on their GPS in unattended mode.
Version 0.6 is attached
- New internal tracking code to improve performance and make new feature additions easier (this was more about me than you )
- First audible notices. Each mile/km and distance goal hit. It is just a tone right now, but I will record and add voiced stuff tonight.
- New Settings tab for audible notices
- Smartphone users can atleast start the app and track a run now! (still no settings or view log...that is coming)
Version 0.5.9 is attached
- Fix the View/Save log bug (I hope)...you might have to delete your Run Log (yeah for Alpha testing!)
- New way to calculate speed that is more accurate for me. This might depend on what GPS chip your phone uses...try both and see which you like more (change in the Settings Screen)
Version 0.5.8 is attached
- AppToDate bug fix
- Start of true metric support
- little bug fixes
Version 0.5.7 is attached
- I think the String->Date bug is fixed, please let me know!
- Added an "Action" menu under the left soft key for start/stop/save (silly non-touch screen phone users!)
Version 0.5.6 is attached
- EMAIL A RUN!
(that is a horrible name for the feature right now....since it just gives you a link to share...)
http://www.trackmyrun.mobi/viewrun.php?run_id=18&auth_code=5qii4mfy
Version 0.5.5 is attached
- Settings screen is up and working
- Goal progress is based on settings now (not just 3.1 all the time)
- All based on miles still, KM is coming soon fear not!
- Few more bug fixes and exception catches
Version 0.5.3 is attached
- GPS unattended mode updates
- Few bug fixes
- Ignore Calories/Pace, those spots are place holders/debugging right now...they will work in a later release
Version 0.5.1 is attached
- GPS stays up in unattended mode now (screen off by time out or hitting the power button)
- Few little bug fixes
Version 0.5 is attached
- KML support is all in now
- Go to view a lot (has to be a new one) and select View in Google Maps
- Change the line in the KML file to be green since that yellow was hard to see
Version 0.4 is attached.
- Fixed a few of the stupid SubString() bugs
- Added Experimental KML support! (start a run, do some stuff, then go to options->experimental->Build KML). It will put test.kml in your devices root folder
- Working on new speed tracking code, it is far more accurate...but not done yet (so ignore that it has like 900 #'s after the decimal point)
- Ignore what it says for calories burnt...that isn't what you think it is
ENJOY!
Version 0.3 is attached.
Looks good! I would definatly use this app!
Looks impressive. The auditory upgrade feature would be cool to add.
There are similar Apps. One in particular is also cool is:
GPS Cycle Computer v2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
How would this calculate calories burned if your activity differs?
i.e. Rollerblading vs. Running vs Cycling, etc.
or is it simply based on time and distance to give a general calculation?
Nice looking app, I will definitely be keeping an eye out for this one. Keep up the good work.
Does this track coordinates? Or does it track via something else? Cause then I'm thinking that you need an active data connection for this to work :|
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Does this track coordinates? Or does it track via something else? Cause then I'm thinking that you need an active data connection for this to work :|
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It tracks coordinates, so no data plan is needed at all for this. Just a working GPS. Now, I plan in the future to have online features for showing your routes on google maps and storing run data online, ect...but that is in the future...
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Looks impressive. The auditory upgrade feature would be cool to add.
How would this calculate calories burned if your activity differs?
i.e. Rollerblading vs. Running vs Cycling, etc.
or is it simply based on time and distance to give a general calculation?
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There are some standard formulats that are based on weight, time of exercise and how vigorous the activity is. For walk, jog, run that is easy (since I now your MPH's). For biking, roller blading, ect that gets tougher.
This is looking awesome. Could really do with an App like this. Keep it up and hope your "about a week" estimate is correct for a first beta.
A question though; I have a Touch HD. Has the interface been written to be able to cope with a WVGA resolution?
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This is looking awesome. Could really do with an App like this. Keep it up and hope your "about a week" estimate is correct for a first beta.
A question though; I have a Touch HD. Has the interface been written to be able to cope with a WVGA resolution?
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I have only tested it on a VGA display (my Touch Diamond). I have played with it in the QVGA emulator and the Square VGA emulator. The layout is far from final (I am not happy with it at all right now), so that is in flux a lot.
Go ahead and try the current version if you like:
http://grebowiec.net/trackmyrun.zip
Please be aware this is a VERY alpha version. There are known bugs that throw exceptions that I don't catch...so be nice
If you do however have any failures or success, please let me know.
gweedo767 said:
Go ahead and try the current version if you like:
http://grebowiec.net/trackmyrun.zip
Please be aware this is a VERY alpha version. There are known bugs that throw exceptions that I don't catch...so be nice
If you do however have any failures or success, please let me know.
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Thanks a lot! I'll give it a go once I get home and give you some feedback!
AppToDate Support
Could you possibly think about having this AppToDate Support. Since this is in the early stages of development, it would be great to run AppToDate to get the current version. Thanks.
Couldn't wait until I got home so just loaded it up here. Everything seems good until I tried to View Log when it crashes out on me.Unfortunately I don't have NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab installed installed so cannot view details.
Also +1 for Apptodate support!
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Couldn't wait until I got home so just loaded it up here. Everything seems good until I tried to View Log when it crashes out on me.Unfortunately I don't have NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab installed installed so cannot view details.
Also +1 for Apptodate support!
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Did you start and then stop a run? The log file isn't created until you do atleast one and I bet it is dying trying to read the log file (which doesn't exist yet for you if you didn't do a start/stop)
I will do some reading on AppToDate in a bit, see what all it takes to integrate it.
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I will do some reading on AppToDate in a bit, see what all it takes to integrate it.
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That would be very much appreciated. It just makes things a lot easier.
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Did you start and then stop a run? The log file isn't created until you do atleast one and I bet it is dying trying to read the log file (which doesn't exist yet for you if you didn't do a start/stop)
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Yeah I had done and paced about abit; notched up 0.003 miles. Stopped the run successfully and then tried to view the log.
I've just jogged home from a friend's house (1.237 miles). This time when I stopped the run it crashed. No error code or anything; just said I had to quit and restart.
Sorry that's probably not much good for bug finding!
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Yeah I had done and paced about abit; notched up 0.003 miles. Stopped the run successfully and then tried to view the log.
I've just jogged home from a friend's house (1.237 miles). This time when I stopped the run it crashed. No error code or anything; just said I had to quit and restart.
Sorry that's probably not much good for bug finding!
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Did it do fine during the whole run though?
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Did it do fine during the whole run though?
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Yeah no problems there. Slight lag on speed changes but I guess that's to be expected/part of the suposed and much debated GPS lag on the HD!
No complaints about performance at all.
I'm really liking the look of the App, certianly looks good so far; will be awesome if/when audio feedback can be given.
Something that would be good is if you could make the data from the logs uploadable to a PC to plot onto a graph (via Excel).
Like I said, great work so far! Loving this, who needs Nike/Apple!
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Yeah no problems there. Slight lag on speed changes but I guess that's to be expected/part of the suposed and much debated GPS lag on the HD!
No complaints about performance at all.
I'm really liking the look of the App, certianly looks good so far; will be awesome if/when audio feedback can be given.
Something that would be good is if you could make the data from the logs uploadable to a PC to plot onto a graph (via Excel).
Like I said, great work so far! Loving this, who needs Nike/Apple!
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The lag might be that I only update the display every 5 seconds (that is for all data). I think I might update the speed in real time (there is a call back function I can attach to for that). I do have plans for graphing/tracking/mapping in the future via an upload to a website feature...but that is a bit down the road I want to get all the stand alone client features working correctly first!
Please let us know when you have completed a final version. this program will be very useful. I know its still in the early stages hopefully you will be able to find the bugs and get them fixed, so we can download complete version.
Update: It seems that it doesn't want to play well with at least some Vibrant modems so I'm not recommending it for Vibrant and please don't download. In looking at a drop of I897UCKB1 the libsecgps.so seems to have been updated as well, which might explain it.
I've been working on a GPS fix that has had a fair degree of success so far on the Captivate side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164
I *believe* it should also work on the Vibrant, just can't be certain yet. In fact, I believe it should work on any of the North American Galaxy S variants that use the Broadcom BCM4751 (no FM Radio) GPS module. The only thing in it that's AT&T specific is the certificate used for Secure SUPL connection, but I don't think it would matter and it won't overwrite any existing certificates. If it doesn't work just set Secure SUPL to off but I think it will still work fine using the AT&T certificate.
(In fact, if someone wants to look in /system/bin/gpsd/ and pull out a copy of the T-Mo .cer certificate file I'd be glad to cook up a Vibrant-specific version for testing.)
If there's anyone out there who's about to flash anyway, who has a backup of their settings they can use for recovery if needed, or whose GPS performance is just so awful they don't give a sh!# any more and will try anything I'd appreciate a few Vibrant testers.
Please report back with results and ROM/modem configuration.
Thanks, and good luck!
I've been following the GPS work being done in the Captivate forums with great interest (especially Da_G's and now your threads), and I have to say I'm very excited and appreciative of the progress you're making. Sorry I can't do any beta testing this week, but in the future I will definitely flash this.
jamesyl said:
I've been following the GPS work being done in the Captivate forums with great interest (especially Da_G's and now your threads), and I have to say I'm very excited and appreciative of the progress you're making. Sorry I can't do any beta testing this week, but in the future I will definitely flash this.
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Understandable.
In truth though the only reason it's really still marked as being in beta is that it I haven't been able to nail down why it seems to work wonders for some but doesn little to nothing for others. My suspicion is that it has to do with the modem but results don't seem consistent yet.
I9088 based modems (KP1 etc) seems to works well so far, as does JK4 which I why I thought to ask for Vibrant testers.
Tried it (on bionxi V 1.2) and nothing. No sats in view, certainly no locks.
Rebooted, and the samsung gps restore ap and and it is back to working but jumping arround as it was before.
beren28 said:
Tried it (on bionxi V 1.2) and nothing. No sats in view, certainly no locks.
Rebooted, and the samsung gps restore ap and and it is back to working but jumping arround as it was before.
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Disappointing to hear. Hopefully others might have better results, and this could still be the case as the configuration is only one of the problems with Samsung's GPS implementation.
The Samsung GPS restore app does nothing to improve GPS really. All it does is revert back to the horribly flawed stock settings like the broken lcs-spirent.com LBS server. There are basically zero scenarios in which this could ever be helpful and you're almost certainly better off using another GPS fix of some type and changing the LBSTestMode settings to non-stupid ones.
What was the lcs-spirent.com server directing information to anyways? Is it an actual satellite data server or a typo on Samsung's part?
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What was the lcs-spirent.com server directing information to anyways? Is it an actual satellite data server or a typo on Samsung's part?
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Short answer: at some point it apparently may have been serving as a Location Based Service (LBS) server which would provide satellite and approximate location data used for Assisted GPS (AGPS) augmentation to the pure-satellite GPS. By about launch time or so though the domain was no longer registered, and shortly thereafter it was snapped up by a spammy domain squatter who just sits on it and draws ad revenue from all the inadvertent traffic.
The fact that Samsung's successive "fixes" for GPS continue specify continue to specify this obsolete configuration could probably be taken as evidence that they're either completely ignorant or they just don't care.
p m when you want to test i ll give it a whirl
Ill test this out in the afternoon. Still at my night job. Just hope this doesnt give my gps aids...
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I will test it out. I drive 40 miles to work and my phone has never had the ability to navigate correctly. It will sometimes get close for a few minutes but then jumps again. Maps work pretty well but the navigation does not. If that is what you are looking for let me know and I will try anything to get it working better.
Edit: I didn't see a gpsd file but there is an agpsd file which I have attached.
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I've been working on a GPS fix that has had a fair degree of success so far on the Captivate side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164
I *believe* it should also work on the Vibrant, just can't be certain yet. In fact, I believe it should work on any of the North American Galaxy S variants that use the Broadcom BCM4751 (no FM Radio) GPS module. The only thing in it that's AT&T specific is the certificate used for Secure SUPL connection, but I don't think it would matter and it won't overwrite any existing certificates. If it doesn't work just set Secure SUPL to off but I think it will still work fine using the AT&T certificate.
(In fact, if someone wants to look in /system/bin/gpsd/ and pull out a copy of the T-Mo .cer certificate file I'd be glad to cook up a Vibrant-specific version for testing.)
If there's anyone out there who's about to flash anyway, who has a backup of their settings they can use for recovery if needed, or whose GPS performance is just so awful they don't give a sh!# any more and will try anything I'd appreciate a few Vibrant testers.
Please report back with results and ROM/modem configuration.
Thanks, and good luck!
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Honestly, I really would like a copy of the at&t cert, because I use my Vibrant on at&t.....
This worked great for me.
In long island city never had good gps. Now with your fix locks to sats under 20secs.
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Honestly, I really would like a copy of the at&t cert, because I use my Vibrant on at&t.....
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I really don't think it should make much a difference though especially as long as supl.google.com is being used for LBS. It's not like it's carrier-specific or anything.
You can download the fix and pull the supt.att.cer file out manually and install it with adb push if you like. I tried to upload it directly here but it's not an allowed file type.
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I will test it out. I drive 40 miles to work and my phone has never had the ability to navigate correctly. It will sometimes get close for a few minutes but then jumps again. Maps work pretty well but the navigation does not. If that is what you are looking for let me know and I will try anything to get it working better.
Edit: I didn't see a gpsd file but there is an agpsd file which I have attached.
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.zip seems to be corrupted and I couldn't open. Thanks for the effort though.
Unless there's a something.something.cer file in there it's not what's needed though.
cyberpyr8 said:
I will test it out. I drive 40 miles to work and my phone has never had the ability to navigate correctly. It will sometimes get close for a few minutes but then jumps again. Maps work pretty well but the navigation does not. If that is what you are looking for let me know and I will try anything to get it working better.
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Sorry, just realized I didn't really answer your question: yes, that's exactly what I was trying to fix and that would be a great test case.
With many of the previously published gps fixes it was possible to get a stationary fix but the tracking was just terrible. I re-enabled smoothing and some of the other augmentations to try to improve tracking. It seems to do a slightly better job at tracking, and in any case if it errs it recovers much more quickly now.
I would love to help test this out also. I sent you a PM Rrryan2.
Thanks!
daenigma said:
I would love to help test this out also. I sent you a PM Rrryan2.
Thanks!
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PMs are unnecessary. Just follow the link in the OP. Installation procedure is unchanged.
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PMs are unnecessary. Just follow the link in the OP. Installation procedure is unchanged.
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I already made the changes manually to the LBS setting, I was just unsure if I needed to flash something else since the OP link was to the Captivate zip files.
Looks like the cert for ATT and T-mobile are different, but I am a bit of a noob also so...
I guess I will try to flash the USA file and Odin if necessary
Just tried it out: finding location and locking on. Unfortunatly it took 74 seconds to lock on as opposed to the "normal" 36-45 seconds. Here are the steps I took.
1.Download the .zip for your geographic region below
2.Flash with CWM
3.Apply the proper SUPL settings to LbsTestMode using dialer or SGS Tools - see pic above.
4.rebooted and waited till the os was fully loaded.
Running Trigger 2.1.0 (froyo) has KB1 modem. Used GPS Status to test. Will test navigation later today when I go to work.
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I already made the changes manually to the LBS setting, I was just unsure if I needed to flash something else since the OP link was to the Captivate zip files.
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Although the testing on Vibrant is still experimental for now, the files (except for the certificate) aren't Captivate-specific and seem to be common to Galaxy S series. Some of the elements of the fix were previously used for Nexus S, Epic etc. Plus they don't have anything to do with anything besides GPS.
Looks like the cert for ATT and T-mobile are different, but I am a bit of a noob also so...
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Not a big deal really, all it affects is secure SUPL. Setting Secure SUPL to off in LbsTestMode gets around it completely if it's even necessary.
I guess I will try to flash the USA file and Odin if necessary
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That and/or have a good nandroid backup ready.
Here is a list of most of the known GPS fixes.
At this point no one should be suffering from lack of knowledge or or methods offered. One or a combination of these will work.
Please remember, the GPS on the Galaxy phone is GPS assist NOT pure GPS, so if it does not perform like your TOM-Tom or Garmin.......so what ...it was not designed to be as good as a dedicated device. That said here are the links, etc that will help you get the best performance out of your phone:
KWKSLVR Hardware fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970 ....
this is a hardware fix for some phones the tab that is suppose to engage the antenna does not make good contact. This provides a fix for that
Software fixes from the market:
GPS Aids,--- this works pretty well
Gps restore --- works for some
Some Software fixes from postings:
aamir123 posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026681&highlight=gps+fixes
Tatawo posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912777&highlight=gps+fixes
I have Masters GPS fix patch attached in this posting.
Jellette (it could be Whitehawkx or Birgertime can't remember) of the EDT Team has a GPS fix as well I could not locate. Maybe someone can post the link or patch in here as well
***Thanks to Nomadrider123 for finding this: *** Heathens fix (EDT) team
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974702
Hopefully, this will help those who are still struggling with GPS or just need a central post to be able to use a a reference. - - -
I believe this is what you were looking for. Anyway to get this stickied so it doesn't get lost?
Heathens GPS Fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974702
Yeah, Heathen's fix is what has worked wonders for me regardless of what rom I was running.
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I believe this is what you were looking for. Anyway to get this stickied so it doesn't get lost?
Heathens GPS Fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974702
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Thanks I put this in the op, so it is there and thanked you as well,
Hopefully they can sticky this so it will make it easier for people who need this can find. ...
Should add link to Da_G's post in the cappy forum also find rryan's post in cappy forum. Great resource information from both. Even though plumbbob doesnt work with the vib (ms assist/msmode)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
Thanks a lot for this!!!
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I think this and the hardware gps fix should be put in the sticky threads
The digitaltoddy fix (Fixes me EVERY TIME):
You'll need to get into LBSTestMode by entering *#3214789650# from the dialer. Press Delete GPS Data, this will get rid of the bad GPS information that is probably still stored in your phone. Go to Application Settings and set the Start Mode to 'Cold Start'. Reboot your phone and go outside, run an app like GPS Test and let it lock onto as many birds as it can, once you get a good number (at least 5), go back into your LBSTestMode --> Application Settings and set the Start Mode back to 'Hot Start', reboot and all should be merry.
I had major issues w/ my GPS and was able to put this together with the help of various posts and a deeper understanding of how GPS on these phones actually works. Hope this helps!
Also, it's probably best to run the GPS Test application while you are driving around, let it lock onto as many birds as it can (I'd say let it run for a few minutes, I was able to get 9 the first time) before setting it back to 'Hot Start'. This way it will keep these birds in the list and allow you for a faster lock afterwards.
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XDA member*mikel.canovas*created a thread with a method that he found while browsing our fora that will consistently allow the GPS in the Captivate (we know all this crappy phone with huge gps problem) to get a lock on within 5 seconds, even being indoors! This fix also working with galaxy note.
First off - All credit goes to h3llstorm, as this is his genius fix and I'm just making a thread about it since most people don't even know about it.*
This is for*- anyone whose GPS has long lock times, and is inaccurate in navigation.*This*SHOULD*work with all 2.3+ roms. I stress should because I have used this a while back with GB roms and am using it now on CM9 (ICS).
What it does*- replaces /system/etc/gps.conf with h3llstorm's modified version that has much more servers and various tweaks.Results*- I'm able to consistently get locks within 5 sec and ~10m with multiple sats. Even indoors, results are similar.Many (including non captivate users) have reoved results as well.
On my CheckRom I got no locktime at all. ( indoor!!!). Its instantly navigate!
Original thread is here
How to use it:
Backup your old gps.conf (located in /system/etc) in case you prefer your old configuration. But you can always flash your rom again to get it back as well
Download h3llstorm's gps fix --* http://goo.gl/Ti0pp SD CardReboot into CWM and flashReboot and enjoy.
GPSNOTE*- first lock can take much longer that normal. Don't be surprised if it takes over 1 min. Results should improve from there. Should get ~ 3 sec locks, with multiple satellites.
thanks for posting it here
A thread about a thread. Mmmm just posting the link in general whas enough. One xda rule that is been broken.
I know you want to help. But lately the note dev section is full of non development threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541082
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538605
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532830
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527816
If you did not created than not make a thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321268
Why would you want to fiddle with the Notes GPS settings? it works extremely well as it is. I always have a lock on multiplse sats within a couple of secs and rarely see less then 16sats beeing locked on after 10sec.
I just tested indoor where I got a lock on 17sats in about 3sec.
With the Galaxy S all tricks were welcome but with S2 and specially the Note with GLONASS too I se no point as it already is incredible.
By the way, did you read the posts on original thread? It is not working for every one. And than you post it here?
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By the way, did you read the posts on original thread? It is not working for every one. And than you post it here?
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its better to edit the config file and add the server address of your local region. ..if you don't want to edit then third party applications are available in market. ..no need to replace the file
For lazy people it is a good solution
Thanks for sharing.
I can see that the NTP_SERVER is ''us.pool.ntp.org''.
So, maybe is better for Europe users to change it to ''europe.pool.ntp.org'' (or any specific country, for example ''gr.pool.ntp.org'' for my country) before flash it?
I really really don't consider it's meaningful
Note can obtain and lock so many sats signal within few seconds. I don't think it's meaningful to do any mod.
eliashadow said:
Thanks for sharing.
I can see that the NTP_SERVER is ''us.pool.ntp.org''.
So, maybe is better for Europe users to change it to ''europe.pool.ntp.org'' (or any specific country, for example ''gr.pool.ntp.org'' for my country) before flash it?
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No wrong because we all use american sattelites. We all depend on us sattelites.
So wrong info, europe do not have own sattelites for navigate.
robertberma said:
No wrong because we all use american sattelites. We all depend on us sattelites.
So wrong info, europe do not have own sattelites for navigate.
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So what for there are different servers?
In any rom you can see different servers in gps config, for example rocket rom always using de.pool.ntp.org.
Faster Fix doing the same too.
Hmm another one getting credited for being "a genius " for using something thats been around for a long time (read years)...
They Must work for crappl
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So what for there are different servers?
In any rom you can see different servers in gps config, for example rocket rom always using de.pool.ntp.org.
Faster Fix doing the same too.
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We use navstar and that is been set free by ronald regean vs president to use for navigation all over. In europe we use galileo but not for ower diveses.
Did you ever heard about poland lanching a sattelite, we all use the same sattelites. Three for 3d persion. Does not matter where you are ore what it say in gps.conf.
I think there is a misunderstanding here.
"Physical" satellite are american, and the same for all, obviously.
The servers you mentionned are NTP servers which allows for time synchronization, and quicker satellite fix time. It is related to A-GPS (stands for Assisted GPS).
robertberma said:
We use navstar and that is been set free by ronald regean vs president to use for navigation all over. In europe we use galileo but not for ower diveses.
Did you ever heard about poland lanching a sattelite, we all use the same sattelites. Three for 3d persion. Does not matter where you are ore what it say in gps.conf.
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[OT] Please spell check before posting. Three is not free [/OT]
NTP servers are time servers. Time has always been essential to navigation, even before the first satellite was ever launched. If all GPS users on the planet connected to the same time server to check time for satellite search, the servers would crash and you would never get a fix.
You CAN connect to any server you want, but the nearer (faster) the better.
DarkAdrien said:
I think there is a misunderstanding here.
"Physical" satellite are american, and the same for all, obviously.
The servers you mentionned are NTP servers which allows for time synchronization, and quicker satellite fix time. It is related to A-GPS (stands for Assisted GPS).
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sudisk said:
[OT] Please spell check before posting. Three is not free [/OT]
NTP servers are time servers. Time has always been essential to navigation, even before the first satellite was ever launched. If all GPS users on the planet connected to the same time server to check time for satellite search, the servers would crash and you would never get a fix.
You CAN connect to any server you want, but the nearer (faster) the better.
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So am i right for generally is better to change ntp severs with our place?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note
Yes. It can't hurt, in any case you can revert back if you have any issue (but really, you shouldn't).
robertberma said:
I know you want to help. But lately the note dev section is full of non development threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527816
If you did not created than not make a thread about it.
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Maybe you should learn to read, and start with reading your own words..
[ I ] made that mod, therefore I have the right to post a thread about..
Stop acting like your the one who created xda..
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gps fix
Like henke2 said there is nothing to fix on gps . Why would you fiddle wit ith ? It work EXTREMELY well . Outside i am catching signal within SECONDS , and inside house within 30 seconds .
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But lately the note dev section is full of non development threads.
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You forgot this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529604
It started its life in Development, but was later moved to Q&A. And do you remember who the OP was?
You.
Hi Guys 'n' Gals:
If like me you have been struggling with poor GPS on your SGS2, then I may have the answer!
I am running Foxhound SniperWolf - have tried just about all of the "good" radios & have swapped regularly between Abyss / Siyah kernels to no avail.
Where I work (in Hampshire, right on the coast), it would often take up to 5 minutes (sometimes longer!) for Sygic to lock onto satellites. GPS status used to just about give up - it was hopeless & yet my trusty TomTom would lock in about 10 seconds! It really p*ssed me off!
Now with the following combination - FoxHound SniperWolf ROM, Siyah kernel 3.2.8.2, Stock XXLPX modem & Crypted AGPS Patch - I get a lock in 10 to 12 seconds maximum - every time from work! At home, even indoors, I get a lock in about 10 seconds!
To be fair I think a very large portion of my success is down to "crypted" and his fantastic AGPS fix which you can find here
My Samsung Galaxy S2 is now superb for any GPS application!
If this helps anyone - please click the THANKS button below this post.
Cheers
I'm skeptical about "patches", "fixes" and "hacks" which are supposed to improve or fix things.. Imo if the changes are really worth having I'm sure the veteran developers around here would include similar functionality in their roms / kernels as stock or recommend you install them.
That said I have no idea what the Crypted AGPS Patch does. From what I can tell it modifies the gps.conf file
Thus editing config, not adding any new drivers / coding to significantly change how GPS works
It maybe that the major speed increase you are getting is due to the patch setting a new Local GPS server. FasterFix (free from the android market) will allow you to set your GPS server yourself to greatly improve GPS Locking speed.
I've set mine to the UK (uk.pool.ntp.org) and can achieve a GPS lock within 4 seconds
Just tested the speed while writing this. Believe me I have nothing to gain by exaggerating
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I'm skeptical about "patches", "fixes" and "hacks" which are supposed to improve or fix things.. Imo if the changes are really worth having I'm sure the veteran developers around here would include similar functionality in their roms / kernels as stock or recommend you install them.
That said I have no idea what the Crypted AGPS Patch does. From what I can tell it modifies the gps.conf file
Thus editing config, not adding any new drivers / coding to significantly change how GPS works
As the man says his own NTP SERVERS .
his patch has various objectives to ensure stability and efficacy with GPS. Locally, the patch will replace your /system/etc/gps.conf and your /system/etc/suplrootcert if you have this file. You can compare the difference in what you have to this one to get an idea of all the changes. V3.1, onward, contains section descriptions for variables in use. Most notably, starting with v3.1 the aGPS Patch uses my own central NTP DNS pool and my own central xtra.bin server by default. The xtra.bin does have fallback servers should mine fail. But, that is very, VERY much an unlikely scenario. These two imperatives allow for better stability and speed by providing top-rated NTP servers and prime-routed network access to transmit the xtra.bin to your phone.
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Thanx
NICE
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...That said I have no idea what the Crypted AGPS Patch does. .....
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Maybe, if you had read the thread that I linked to in my post (as jje did) before you replied you would have had a greater understanding of what crypted was doing with his fix; and more so, what FasterFix does / does not do!
Be rash - try it! Believe you me - it works!
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Maybe, if you had read the thread that I linked to in my post (as jje did) before you replied you would have had a greater understanding of what crypted was doing with his fix; and more so, what FasterFix does / does not do!
Be rash - try it! Believe you me - it works!
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Loving how you cut the quote at the point where I read through his thread and changelog and report back what it appears to do
Still, I have an open mind.. I will give it a try (although I remain dubious)
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Loving how you cut the quote at the point where I read through his thread and changelog and report back what it appears to do
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Look mate - I don't want to cross swords with you, but ... you said in your post quite clearly
...I have no idea what the Crypted AGPS Patch does...
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As the dev says in his thread that I linked to, he uses his own NTP SERVERS - he very clearly explains what his AGPS Patch does!
I understood what the AGPS Patch was doing. If you also understood what the AGPS Patch was doing, then why on earth would you say that you have no idea what it does??
Anyway - no matter - it works brilliant for me - end of!
Cheers
Well what I meant was that I don't know what his patch actually did.. Of course it uses different servers (As you say, that's explained in his thread) but what ELSE does it do?
For example, this is different from my current GPS.conf:
QOS_ACCURACY=50
QOS_TIME_OUT_AGPS=95
QOS_TIME_OUT_STANDALONE=80
QosHorizontalThreshold=1000
QosVerticalThreshold=500
Do you know what all these changes do?
Regardless I've done my own testing and checking.
5 tests using FasterFix: (uk.pool.ntp.org)
17 second lock
5 second lock
5 second lock
6 second lock
8 second lock
5 tests using the AGPS Patch:
15 second lock
12 second lock
3 second lock
39 second lock
14 second lock
33 second lock
An extra one as the results differed greatly
Hybrid: (Using the patch with uk.pool.ntp.org)
14 second lock
6 second lock
7 second lock
9 second lock
7 second lock
Some further testing:
Ping this: ntp.derekgordon.com
230-240ms
His server
And Ping this: uk.pool.ntp.org
44ms (Stable)
UK server
Both tests seem to confirm the same.
NOTE: These tests were done in the UK, I believe the sever for the "patch" is located in the USA. Therefore I have no doubt that the patch would provide better results for those in the USA
I keep calling it a patch when all it's really a config (text) file
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Well what I meant was that I don't know what his patch actually did.. Of course it uses different servers (As you say, that's explained in his thread) but what ELSE does it do?
For example, this is different from my current GPS.conf:
QOS_ACCURACY=50
QOS_TIME_OUT_AGPS=95
QOS_TIME_OUT_STANDALONE=80
QosHorizontalThreshold=1000
QosVerticalThreshold=500
Do you know what all these changes do?
Regardless I've done my own testing and checking.
5 tests using FasterFix: (uk.pool.ntp.org)
17 second lock
5 second lock
5 second lock
6 second lock
8 second lock
5 tests using the AGPS Patch:
15 second lock
12 second lock
3 second lock
39 second lock
14 second lock
33 second lock
An extra one as the results differed greatly
Hybrid: (Using the patch with uk.pool.ntp.org)
14 second lock
6 second lock
7 second lock
9 second lock
7 second lock
Some further testing:
Ping this: ntp.derekgordon.com
230-240ms
His server
And Ping this: uk.pool.ntp.org
44ms (Stable)
UK server
Both tests seem to confirm the same.
NOTE: These tests were done in the UK, I believe the sever for the "patch" is located in the USA. Therefore I have no doubt that the patch would provide better results for those in the USA
I keep calling it a patch when all it's really a config (text) file
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OMG - far far too techy for me! If you are really that concerned, you really should direct your comments on the devs thread right here - I am sure he'll love to "engage with you"! For me - I am not interested, OK?
It works brilliantly; I don't care or understand what it does, or how it does it - end of!
Similarly, I drink Woodford Reserve bourbon - love it in fact, but I don't give a fig how they make it!
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OMG - far far too techy for me! If you are really that concerned, you really should direct your comments on the devs thread right here - I am sure he'll love to "engage with you"! For me - I am not interested, OK?
It works brilliantly; I don't care or understand what it does, or how it does it - end of!
Similarly, I drink Woodford Reserve bourbon - love it in fact, but I don't give a fig how they make it!
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You're completely right, you should use whatever works well for yourself. All I posted was the tests (Really simple, just using GMaps and counting how many "blinks" the GPS icon did before locking )
The "Ping" tests just measured how long it took to "talk" to both servers
I would recommend you try-out FasterFix though, it may reduce your GPS lock speed
You could always just re-patch it if you want to revert
Oh and this has been bothering me for a while so I'll just say it.. I didn't give this thread a one star rating.
Honestly