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Windows will prevail. Microsoft with their Wndows 8 getting in the race now I think after a rough start and give some time in the future will prevail and be superior over any mobil OS because Android is so stupid. Yes Android made some shaking in the mobil world but hey is still stupid, the browser is stupid, managing emails are stupid and list goes on. This is my personal opinion that in the future when dust settles and bugs are worked out if I can have windows features on my phone and my tablet is the way to go. I am not refering to current windows phone now but future refined win8 and beyond stuff that will come out, just keep eye on Microsoft and Nokia partnership for now.
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*Mobile. Mobil is gas and oil.
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Did you fall on your head as a baby?
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
Yup with their wndows they will win
(Not a typo)
(God i love trolling trolls)
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Only reason microsoft was able to take apple on was cause microsoft computers were around 1/3 of the price of apple phones and had the same specs
Same specs and same price
Apple you win
But android is always on top
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Your talking about refining the existing windows os(take out bugs, and add features) to beat android?
Its simple logic what you do to one you do to the other to compare, so if you "refine" windows you have to "refine" android also to compare them equally.
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Let's see windows 8 beat jelly bean. That's what I'm thinking, or will windows 8 be final around ics time?
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After looking at the dev version of windows 8, Ill pass as long as possible, it just sucks ass, its windows 7 with metro ui, and hard to get around if your a tweaker.
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I hate metro UI. It may be fast, but its so dull and boring to use and look at.
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I hate metro UI. It may be fast, but its so dull and boring to use and look at.
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Its like an apple approach to things ... it may "just work" but you can't do much with it, its just there nothing to really customize, I say android is in between both (paginated, and metro) but way [more] fresher.
Anyone catch my allusion to a song?
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Op has a point.. though he comes off as an idiot. If I have the full functionality of windows 7 on a tablet, of jump on it and forget about android. I mean FULL functionality. That **** better do everything I can do on my PC. Except hardware related stuff like burning dvds obviously.
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I should of mentioned that all these frustration with android started when I got my tablet wanted to do some things I was doing with my laptop. I imagine if the new windows has full functionality on a tab it will be superior to android tablet at any aspect. With android: can't play mkv files, browser crashes, can't attach certain files, can't download certain files from email, can't copy text in quoted links to be pasted in new tab for download, can't turn screen off when play video file while connectrd to hdmi monitor to save batt power causes video to stop. I can go long list here, I would think that if it was windows none of these would be there.
I don't have much of a problem with my phone I can leave with it and still have fun.
And sorry for the typos I can't use phone keyboard as I would on pc.
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Are we seriously comparing a Desktop OS that was engineered towards keyboard and mouse use, to a mobile phone and (only recently) tablet OS geared towards touchscreens?
Why not? A touchscreen is just a different input, but same functionality as a mouse. Onboard keyboard vs physical keyboard no difference. I agree with OP that Windows will come to dominate the tablet world, but I believe Android will dominate the mobile world for a loooong time.
Op wins Pointless debate of the year award!
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Why not? A touchscreen is just a different input, but same functionality as a mouse. Onboard keyboard vs physical keyboard no difference. I agree with OP that Windows will come to dominate the tablet world, but I believe Android will dominate the mobile world for a loooong time.
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Why not??? You are comparing an OS that has been around for almost 20 years to one that has only been around for maybe a quarter of that time. 20 years of development for a mouse HID compared to 5 years of modern technology for touch input.
Hopefully jellybean gives android full functionality.
I thought it was pretty stupid to release tablet os that's the same as your phone os, just prettier.
Its always stopped me from getting one.
Now I'll jump all over an optimized windows tablet...full windows 7 (don't even need nor care for 8) that run smooth as butter...mount usbs, mount iso's on disk drives so you can play games, donload codecs to ply anything, hook a server up like nothing, download anything you want, run torrents, do 100 things all at once just cuz it can handle it (ie playing music in a little screen you set to stay ontop while behind it isa maxed firefox tab streaming a muted video from youtbe while dragging around another little screen just to pass the time as you watch this epic trailer listening to epic music)
Windows will murder android and especially ios, functionality wise.
Sales wise? Whole different ballgame bruh
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I should of mentioned that all these frustration with android started when I got my tablet wanted to do some things I was doing with my laptop. I imagine if the new windows has full functionality on a tab it will be superior to android tablet at any aspect. With android: can't play mkv files, browser crashes, can't attach certain files, can't download certain files from email, can't copy text in quoted links to be pasted in new tab for download, can't turn screen off when play video file while connectrd to hdmi monitor to save batt power causes video to stop. I can go long list here, I would think that if it was windows none of these would be there.
I don't have much of a problem with my phone I can leave with it and still have fun.
And sorry for the typos I can't use phone keyboard as I would on pc.
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You could use rockplayer for .mkv... not the best solution but it works. Its all we got until vlc player is released for android.
What. The. Hell. Are. You. Attempting. To. Type? Does. Not. Compute.
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Op has a point.. though he comes off as an idiot. If I have the full functionality of windows 7 on a tablet, of jump on it and forget about android. I mean FULL functionality. That **** better do everything I can do on my PC. Except hardware related stuff like burning dvds obviously.
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I agree. A tablet that can do everything my Windows computer does is pure win. Hands down.
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Given that I can already run ubuntu on my Epic, the next Gen of Android devices should bring Android phone/tablets far closer to being desktop/laptop replacements.
Look at the Atrix. It was a first attempt, but it is moving the android platform in the direction of a laptop/desktop replacement
Given the power of the new android phones, and the rate of new development, Android should begin to compete rather well in the desktop/laptop replacement field.
I hardly ever use my laptop anymore, except if I need to convert/edit a pic/video, or burn a CD/DVD
I feel that in general use, Android is FAR better than Windows, and I say this as someone that has done IT support in a windows environment for over 25 years.
After all, very few people would put windows use anywhere near a pleasant experience.
I really think that most of the advantages a desktop has, will start to fade as the phone/tablets get more powerful., and better able to integrate with docks and BT items
For example, CD/DVD burning can be added via micro USB with an external burner, or even on built into a docking station.
KB & Mouse the same way, or via BT.
A Monitor can be done via HDMI out, or also via a docking station.
The only real advantage I see for Windows, is full support of Microsoft office, otherwise, IMO there is just no real advantage of a windows system, that isnt related far more to the desktop's hardware, instead of the desktop OS.
Hi Everyone,
I am looking for tablet advice. I am a high school math teacher who teaches using SMARTboards. If you've never heard of this, it's basically a giant white board that is also a touchscreen (picture a 6 foot tablet mounted to the wall). It mirrors the PC in my classroom (via a projector mounted on the ceiling), and allows lots of fun interactive opportunities with my students. However, I am stuck at the front of the room with my back to my kids a lot. I want to change all that, so I want to buy a tablet to control the PC (which in turn controls the SMARTboard).
What I am seeking requires a tablet that could take over a Windows XP PC (wirelessly I assume - we do have WiFi access). Any suggestion on good apps for remote access would be appreciated here, but also I want to know this - would this system seem to be a good one with the Nexus 7?
Do you guys think the screen is large enough for this sort of application (solving math problems with a stylus, and this would be projected onto a large screen for my kids to see)? Or would you think a 10" screen would be better?
Also, would this idea work, technologically? WiFi access of PC... this should allow writing on the tablet to write on the PC... SMARTboard would then show what I'm writing since it is a clone of the PC screen... I just need to make sure that I can easily control programs remotely from the tablet.
I know this may sound like a mess, but I really want to do my homework before spending money I don't otherwise NEED to spend. My smartphone (EVO 4G LTE) does all I need right now, but this would be a toy that I can also use daily for work. Thanks for any input you guys have! Feel free to ask questions if what I said didn't make perfect sense. I just know that XDA is the place to go for tech questions, and this is an awesome community.
Check out this app called Jump Desktop on the Google play store, might be what you're looking for.
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Splashtop 2 is really good, works great with my computer.
A 7in screen should be fine if the app in question can zoom, or you dont mind less space.
I notice that with my remote desktop it doesnt matter if im zoomed in unless i try to name a file, or if im using photoshop to paint.
Realvnc for the win !
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I would imagine the smartboard uses its own software, could you list the boards make/model? We might be able to help out a bit more. Otherwise you'll just be connecting your tablet to your computer via remote desktop and then using it to control your smartboard. I would imagine you would definitly lose some functionality that way and it would be hard to control with the small screen.
I would suggest either getting a netbook or small laptop and just face the class using it or get a stool to set it on, or to go to the google play store online and see if your smartboard has an app.
Good luck
That app has great reviews - and is cheap too! Thank you for the suggestion! I wish I could test out this system first, haha. Oh well, I'm sure there's a return policy I can use if something won't work.
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I have done this actually
I love my nexus but i do NOT think its big enough..
when my arm was in a sling from surgery for over 5 months.. I would use SPLASH TOP .
My tablet was a 10 inch Acer a500 tablet connected thru my netgear wifi router in close proximity . to my Wired connection on the same router. With HDMI MIRROR to 42 INCH HD TV.. i used handwriting and photo shop on the tv screen . i think the 10 inch tablet was ok but the hand writing is hard because of the size of the screen on the tablet Drawing something say the 3 inches tall 1 letter on the tablet will show up as 4 feet tall on that display ..
Your software could have some zoom features in it to correct this. Other wise it would be difficult to make it work... its hard for my to explain the issue .
very doable if your program on the computer can overcome the zoom issue.. i THINK This is what the post above mine was saying..
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Splashtop 2 is really good, works great with my computer.
A 7in screen should be fine if the app in question can zoom, or you dont mind less space.
I notice that with my remote desktop it doesnt matter if im zoomed in unless i try to name a file, or if im using photoshop to paint.
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+1 for Splashtop, but I would imagine there is some sort of Smartboard app specifically for Android devices. If there is such an app, that would probably be your best bet, but I don't know.
Splashtop on the other hand was the smoothest remote control software I've used. It's free as well (as long as your using it on a local network).
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+1 for Splashtop, but I would imagine there is some sort of Smartboard app specifically for Android devices. If there is such an app, that would probably be your best bet, but I don't know.
Splashtop on the other hand was the smoothest remote control software I've used. It's free as well (as long as your using it on a local network).
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if there is a app for the smart board then a 7 in tablet will likely work .. the issue is the resolution and more so pixel density .. If the app will let you project say 1-4 ratio or what ever you need to make it work and resize then you could have a winner...
we use something similar to that smart board at work for blue prints..
ohh and +1 more for splash top Its best and i have tried them all.. the issue could lie in the speed and network ability of the xp pc
Unfortunately there is no SmartBoard app yet. Apple is getting one this fall, and Android MAY in the future. As for now, u can't bank on that.
I'm thinking the Samsung Tab 2 10.1 would be a good choice. Or maybe I should look into Windows Tablets... Hmm.
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I cosign those who said Splashtop and for a tablet, I would recommend a Transformer over the Galaxy Tab.
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Unfortunately there is no SmartBoard app yet. Apple is getting one this fall, and Android MAY in the future. As for now, u can't bank on that.
I'm thinking the Samsung Tab 2 10.1 would be a good choice. Or maybe I should look into Windows Tablets... Hmm.
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If you can wait till october- November I suggest you look into windows 8 tablet/PC which could do all of your computer functions with pen input and run all your computer applications.
I have a friend who is also an elementary school teacher and I recommended this device to her as she is also using the smartboard. I haven't used it myself but I think the size of screen is good for it unless you also already have a 10 inch tablet. But to each is own I know I write extremely small and she is more of a bubbly letter kind of gal so I can fit write more you could say.
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I cosign those who said Splashtop and for a tablet, I would recommend a Transformer over the Galaxy Tab.
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May I ask why you recommend the Transformer?
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I checked out tablets at Fry's Electronics today... 7" is definitely too small for this application.
Does anyone else have issues with accuracy of the styli out there today? I tried a few tablets and a few styli... I couldn't write an equation to save my life! It kept not reading it or appearing slightly above or below where I wanted. Then I tried the S pen on the Sammy Note 10.1... It was incredible! It was like writing on paper with a pencil! I don't wanna spend that much, but man that thing was incredible... I think that's what I may need.
Thanks for all of the help guys! Any other tips are still appreciated but I'm pretty sure I won't be a Nexus 7 owner...
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One thing that a teacher had was a Mobi mobile interactive whiteboard. It is a thing that hooks up to your computer and is exactly what you are looking for. Also they have clickers with a program that yo ask questions and they key in the answer and you can see who is right/Wong and what answer they had. Hope I helped!
Products: http://www.einstruction.com/products
Mobile interactive whiteboard http://www.einstruction.com/products/mobile-interactive-whiteboards
(This controls your computer like a tablet would bit better and the same price as a Nexus 7)
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Hi all, does anyone know of a workaround to enable downscaling to permit metro apps on 1024x600? I'm use a custom display driver that doesn't allow the higher res, using the official win7 driver i have the higher res but the tablet is too slow. Any ideas?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wTj8xxpkmVE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wTj8xxpkmVE
It works
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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wTj8xxpkmVE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wTj8xxpkmVE
It works
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Are there any other hack without using the down scaling?
At my netbook the fonts are foggy and hard to read...
No there isn't. The only other way is if u used another screen. Like on one of my laptops I have good enough res to use the apps but not good enough for other features. But I hooked it up to my tv with a vga cord (or a hdmi if ur notebook has one) then where u change the res u can make it only show image on the second screen (the tv) then u can chang the res as high as ur tv will allow. U can then get andromouse app on ur android and download the server on ur pc then u can sit back on the couch and use ur pc on the big screen
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Supposedly the regedit method no longer works in the RTM or retail versions.
I have an old HP Mini that I installed Windows 8 on and it's max resolution was 1024x576. What I did, was I found a modified Samsung Intel GMA 950 driver and installed it on my netbook, it now gave me two additional resolutions... 1024x768 and one that was even higher. Certain things don't look all that great, but it's simple enough to switch back to 1024x576 when I'm in desktop mode where I spend most of my time. Regardless of which resolution or driver I'm using, it doesn't effect speed for me.
I was going to just stick with Windows 7 on the netbook, but Windows 8 boots up and runs so much nicer on the netbook that it's given it new life.
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Are there any other hack without using the down scaling?
At my netbook the fonts are foggy and hard to read...
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That is a hard code. Those little netbooks were so cheap for a reason. You can still run Windows 8 on them and use the desktop, which actually is a good idea because Win8 uses less resources and is faster on older hardware. I run it on a Lenovo X61 and basic operation is as good as my Lenovo Twist.
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Supposedly the regedit method no longer works in the RTM or retail versions.
I have an old HP Mini that I installed Windows 8 on and it's max resolution was 1024x576. What I did, was I found a modified Samsung Intel GMA 950 driver and installed it on my netbook, it now gave me two additional resolutions... 1024x768 and one that was even higher. Certain things don't look all that great, but it's simple enough to switch back to 1024x576 when I'm in desktop mode where I spend most of my time. Regardless of which resolution or driver I'm using, it doesn't effect speed for me.
I was going to just stick with Windows 7 on the netbook, but Windows 8 boots up and runs so much nicer on the netbook that it's given it new life.
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Any chance you could link me to the driver that you used matey???
Currently trying to find a modified GMA 950 driver so I can run apps etc!
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Any chance you could link me to the driver that you used matey???
Currently trying to find a modified GMA 950 driver so I can run apps etc!
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Here you are: http://www.netbookfiles.com/17562/samsung-n100-vgagraphics-44intel-windows-732bit-4464bit-815102567/
Alright, so i have been intrigued through commcercials and all about how Windows 8 works. What i want to know is, is it worth upgrading to windows pro 8 without a touchscreen PC?
I have a home built PC (desktop) that is blazing fast, and i also have a 31 inch monitor that supports 1080p. Is paying $40.00 worth getting the new version of windows? Or should i just stay with windows 7.
Please feel free to explain why when you answer, thanks!
Do it. Use the desktop until you get used to metro or whatever its called. But once used to it its amazing. I was immediately used to W8 day one.
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It's worth the $40 upgrades are going for. On the desktop side, it's very fast and clean, I'm surprised at how much I like the new Window trim... No superfluous gloss and transparency, all business. There are some nice additions like drive encryption, the new backup tool (the old one is still there for those who prefer it, which I personally do), the new task manager and file copy UIs, and IE 10 is surprisingly fast stable and, from what I've read, secure.
On the Metro side... It's interesting, and I see the utility of it for tablets, but between my work, which requires heavy multitasking between applications, and just the way I've come to use my computer, again, multitasking, Metro's full screen nature relegates it to little more than a curiosity. I have dual quad core xeons, and two large monitors, so having such strict limitations on how many apps I can have on screen is a bit of a non-starter for me. That and full screen apps designed for a 10 inch screen running on a 30 inch, 2560x1600 res monitor border on absurd. I would use Metro a lot more, and I think it would be far more attractive, both in utility and aesthetically, if it adapted to make optimal use of the typical screen real estate available on desktops. Simply scaling apps up, resulting in 60, 80 and sometimes even higher point size type is anything but optimal.
Personally, after adding the $5 Start8 app to get my familiar start menu back, I've found 8 to be a nice upgrade from 7. I'd have never spent the normal $130 on it, but again, for the current $40, I think it's worth it. Hopefully Microsoft will improve Metro's ability to use and adapt to available system resources before Windows 9. I want to like it, but in its current form, on a desktop, it's, as I said, a bit of a curiosity.
Just my .02
I actually enjoy windows 8 when the metro UI is used as a supplement to the regular explorer. I.e. install start 8 or classic shell and boot straight to desktop, I use the metro UI plenty, but do not use it primarily. I got a 15 dollar pro key and free media center key, which makes it a pretty good value.
Overall the interface is a lot more pleasant than win 7, it's something different, and it's refreshing. I really don't miss Aero at all, most programs that work with win 7 work well with win 8, except some AV software. No I do not have a touch input device.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/feature-packs
Thanks for the great input guys! Now with finding files and folders and such is it all still there? Is there instructions on how to use windows 8?
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Thanks for the great input guys! Now with finding files and folders and such is it all still there? Is there instructions on how to use windows 8?
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It's not immediately obvious but in the start screen you can start typing and it will search. Also there is a search button on the charms bar but that is pretty pointless unless you want to search within an app like iHeartRadio for example.
Replying from so bare with me.
I work in a retail environment and I had to teach older adults about windows 8. I've learned that I'm not very fond of 8 on touch devices.
Truth is I've just gotten use to my mouse with windows 8.
Just remember the 4 corners get you around. Windows key gets you back to the launcher and windows+d gets you to classic mode .
I didn't explain it very elegantly but its pretty simple
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IMO it's not worth upgrading if you have Windows 7 already (especially if you don't have touch) but if you're going to buy a new PC you should just get Windows 8
For 40 bux that's a steal! Touch screen or not at least having a legit copy for future use is totally worth it. I remember almost getting a copy of Windows Vista Home Premium for 299... 2 effing 99!! for a crappy version of Windows, and this! Windows 8 for 40 bux! Officially! Not to mention it works either way, touch screen or not.
Here's a summary I posted elsewhere:
Multimonitor support overhaul
File Explorer improvements with ribbon
Shorter boot times
Security enhancements
Faster file copying that can be paused and maintains a single window
Redesigned task manager
Integrated social and calendar applications
Native .iso mounting
Better battery usage
Cloud synchronization
File History continuous sequential backups
Backups to network drives
chkdsk that will take 10 secs each and every time rather than hours
Storage spaces for multiple hard drives (Like an OS-based RAID 0 or 1)
50% less RAM usage
Tighter CPU control
3G data monitoring
Vastly superior conflict resolution when copying files so you know exactly which files will be replaced and the exact differences
Copy/delete jobs that never stop halfway with an "are you sure?" message while you're AFK
Easy refresh and reset options in case of operating system failure
Windows Update which is now COMPLETELY automated and will never show a single popup ever again
UEFI motherboard support
Native USB 3.0 support
With the other, miscellaneous stuff like HYPER-V and other things that don't affect me- but may be of great use to others.
It's all the little changes that are everywhere that make the update worthwhile.
I have to agree. Make sure you try storage spaces. I have a bunch of drive installed now with all my media and I can add and swap drives as my media library grows.
We'll see how much I like once the first drive fails though.
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Here's a summary I posted elsewhere:
Multimonitor support overhaul
File Explorer improvements with ribbon
Shorter boot times
Security enhancements
Faster file copying that can be paused and maintains a single window
Redesigned task manager
Integrated social and calendar applications
Native .iso mounting
Better battery usage
Cloud synchronization
File History continuous sequential backups
Backups to network drives
chkdsk that will take 10 secs each and every time rather than hours
Storage spaces for multiple hard drives (Like an OS-based RAID 0 or 1)
50% less RAM usage
Tighter CPU control
3G data monitoring
Vastly superior conflict resolution when copying files so you know exactly which files will be replaced and the exact differences
Copy/delete jobs that never stop halfway with an "are you sure?" message while you're AFK
Easy refresh and reset options in case of operating system failure
Windows Update which is now COMPLETELY automated and will never show a single popup ever again
UEFI motherboard support
Native USB 3.0 support
With the other, miscellaneous stuff like HYPER-V and other things that don't affect me- but may be of great use to others.
It's all the little changes that are everywhere that make the update worthwhile.
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Thanks for putting it down in a way that people could truly understand. I kinda think people just look at the surface (no pun intended) and don't take into consideration the overhauled system. The day to day performance gain is noticeable.
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Easy refresh and reset options in case of operating system failure
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IMO best feature ever for Windows. Never thought i'll see this in windows.
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IMO best feature ever for Windows. Never thought i'll see this in windows.
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Reportedly it doesn't work too well...
This review is on Windows 8 w/o touch on a multi monitor setup.
http://www.davejunia.com/2012/10/windows-8-a-detailed-review/
Broken down to traditional desktop, modern ui and windows store.
That was a good review. It made high lights of the good without sounding like a cry baby afraid of change
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installed and adopted at office and home
- many people at office installed it on their laptop, and desktop and no complain/
Totally worth it,
and YES we can play STEAM game (for those who would like to know)
But my advice... installing windows 8 should be done on SSD.... a huge difference from office and home startup and program starting...
Home : Intel 520 - 240GB SSD
Office : poor old HDD sata 2 160GB
Enjoy
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This review is on Windows 8 w/o touch on a multi monitor setup.
http://www.davejunia.com/2012/10/windows-8-a-detailed-review/
Broken down to traditional desktop, modern ui and windows store.
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That was a good review. It made high lights of the good without sounding like a cry baby afraid of change
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Thanks. The main idea was to give a direct non biased objective view.
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Thanks for the great input guys! Now with finding files and folders and such is it all still there? Is there instructions on how to use windows 8?
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There are instructions during the last few steps of installation.
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So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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Anyone?
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johnnyham89 said:
So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.
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I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.
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I had no idea that something like this existed!! Thanks! You were not lying about it being pricey. I'm really looking to put Android on a Windows 8 tablet myself. Have you heard anything about the Acer w700?
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Yes, the Book Trio is about the ONLY option, even because seems Google and MS and effectively killed the prospects of future dual-boot hardware. Despite its overprice and some ridiculous low-end specs such as slouch-slow spinning hard drive and low RAM, the Trio is an amazing device overall and I've been wanting to buy one for long time myself.. specially now that all the kinks are gone and works very well under Windows 8.1.1.
THE ONLY NO NOs are:
1) Asus positively doesn't care about this device and will NEVER publish any Android Firmware updates so you will be forever stuck with 4.2.2, and worse.
2) No one can get this rooted! No root, no deal. Period.
I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
Am I wrong?
Uncle Scrooge said:
I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
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Unfortunately yes you are wrong. There are numerous apps that are not available for Windows that are available for Android that do not work in any of the emulators. I strongly considered getting a Surface Pro 2 and using an emulator for the apps that I must have, but all of my must have apps refused to run, or run properly, in the various emulators I tried.
I solved the issue by buying my Trio and have no regrets. I get all of my Android love and can still switch over to Windows to do the work related tasks when I need to. I have actually found some nice apps in Windows, as well as some less than stellar ones. I am a fond user of Tapatalk and can tell you that I prefer to use Tapatalk on Android than Windows. Although Tapatalk is prettier in Windows it is significantly slower. I can puruse through the forums on Android with ease, but the same actions are painfully slow in Windows.
I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
Obviously, you are a fan of Windows based on your subjective statement that there isn't anything you couldn't do in an even better way in Windows than Android and that is great. Choice is what makes technology wonderful. I recognize that both platforms excel at certain tasks and fail at others so I focus on using the OS that is the best for each task.
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I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
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Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.
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Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.
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I have no wish to argue, but can you archive Gmail content using Windows mail client? Metromail cannot, despite being the top ranked Gmail client in the store.
Additionally, I intentionally used terms that were objective to keep personal opinion out of my post. I compared the performance of apps across the two platforms and referred to apps that are not available natively that I use regularly. I also acknowledged that both platforms have good and bad points.
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I'm not a fan of Windows in general, I just think that Windows is much better for tablets (just because you have almost a full-featured PC) than android, in general.
I think the Mail app in Windows 8 works just fine for Gmail, but this is just my personal opinion.
I'm a fan of Android for my smartphone instead and wouldn't ever consider replacing it with a Windows Phone
I think my Windows Asus T100 and Android Nexus 7 each have their pros and cons - but I think the hassles of dual boot would be more annoying. E.g., even if there was an app for a website on Android, rebooting to use that would be more annoying than simply viewing the website in Windows. And even if say Gmail is better on Android, do I want to have to reboot just to check email?
The Trio is more interesting in that it can apparently run both together, but because the Windows portion relies on technology in the keyboard, this only works when in laptop mode - you can't access Windows at all when in tablet mode. I think this would lose one of the big advantages of a convertible - being able to pull off the tablet from the keyboard to say, show/view some photos, or a PDF.
Also consider that the Trio is significantly more expensive than say the T100 and a Nexus 7 put together. It's also heavier too (1.7Kg for Trio; versus 1.1Kg for T100 and 0.3Kg for Nexus 7). So one option if you want the best of both platforms is just to get two devices.
Gmail works with IMAP, so use any email client you like.
There are less website-wrapper apps for Windows, but I never really understood this - if using an app is so much better than the website, why aren't there apps for Windows laptop/PC users? I though the whole point of mobile apps was because devices were too rubbish/underpowered to support the website. But if you've got a PC tablet, not an oversized fisher price phone, you can just run the website