HTC and Android - One (M7) General

Its been several years since I owned a HTC but was tempted back because of the HTC ONE (M7). The handset is excellent but why have HTC dumbed down Android and the stock options? I've installed CM 10.1 (4.2.2) just to regain more control of this handset, is it just me that's very disappointed with the stock rom?

Any details would be great.... Just saying "dumbed down" without giving a single example is well...not helpful.

There are various options in 'Settings' that are hidden/missing in HTC's Stock Rom compared to Stock Android.
Plus widgets on the lock screen don't function on HTC's 4.2.2 rom.

Personally I prefer sense, the look and the extra features like zoe and the beats that actually helps the speakers this time.

Dumbed down? Sense has more features than stock Android, not the other way around. Note, CM 10.1 is not stock Android.

I'm very satisfied with Sense - HTC did a great job - but what i find really annoying is the missing possibility of horizontal scrolling
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SimonCraddock said:
There are various options in 'Settings' that are hidden/missing in HTC's Stock Rom compared to Stock Android.
Plus widgets on the lock screen don't function on HTC's 4.2.2 rom.
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You have to remember that the 4.2.2 Sense ROMs aren't official. HTC is still working on that update, so hopefully lock screen widgets and quick toggle customization will come with the 4.2.2 (or 4.3 if they skip 4.2.2) update.
HTC builds Android a certain way, just like every other OEM. Personally, the camera options are the only reason I've stayed on a Sense ROM instead of going back to SlimBean or CM/AOKP. It's certainly not perfect, but I wouldn't exactly call it "dumbed down" either.

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Note, CM 10.1 is not stock Android.
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That's right. CM isn't just about taking the Android source and bringing it to devices. They also add many features. It's just that they are so well integrated, they seem to be part of the source.

The majority of HTC buyers , do it for the built quality and sense ui , for me to replace a sense Rom with cm room is unthinkable

I have to agree with this... I can't imagine CM @ my HTC... wouldn't be a One anymore.. more like any other phone.
For me my One is something really special just the way it is
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Bernd_21 said:
I have to agree with this... I can't imagine CM @ my HTC... wouldn't be a One anymore.. more like any other phone.
For me my One is something really special just the way it is
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+1

Without sounding like I'm bashing sense (each to their own), I feel as though cm is under represented here. Cm10.1 has only improved every aspect of my m7. Lockscreen toggles, speakers are louder, camera quality is the same as stock, customizable soft buttons, apps definitely run heaps more smooth and Nova launcher runs as smooth as smooth. Cm team are kicking ass at trying to improve our Android experience
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This is quickly becoming a CM/AOSP vs Sense comparison thread, so closed.

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pure ICS on galaxy s3?

mod edit: i don't like the touch wiz UI
Lol at least give it a chance before making such a claim. Use it when it comes out then we can say if it is shyte... There are other launchers like apex and etc..
ok good point, i like the concepts though like if you are messaging then put to your ear and it calls, but im talking about the pure visual aspect of it, the icons look like they come from a 2001 nokia colour phone
Icons are always customisable though with root access. I always wonder why people complain about a UI or skin when it can always be changed or removed.
Ive never used any of the previous versions of touchwiz for more than a few minutes at a time on friends' phones but have always preferred it over the other mfr UIs ive tried. Its actually one of the things im looking forward to with this.
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pure aosp will take atleast a month or 2, team hacksung have not yet received enough donations for getting the mobile yet.
and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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Indeed.
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Wow wait.. so you've already used the new Touch Wiz? You must have to make a claim like that..
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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Not the entire UI.. little clips here and there but the fact is NONE of us have it and NONE of us have actually used the new Touchwiz UI. Its not just an icon pack
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
I always use Go Launcher but will run with TW on the S3 to see how I like
What's wrong with TouchWiz, I would rank it second after TimeScape of Sony (dont like HTC Sense)
And I would give TouchWiz 4.0 the crown
vanilla rocks!
i got a warning for swearing, sorry for swearing
Pure ICS is definitely coming to the S3. Some developers have already said it.
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
Look aosp is cool, but i am that type of human that i will hardly live with only one type of ui for more than two months, first there are themes and than its big jump (like tw->cm9 or cm9->MIUI....)....so i expect i will try to stick with stock as long as possible and than go out and try some modifications
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Im going to change just one thing , I square icons at the bottom to stock ics, and that's it. Love the drop down toggles. And some of the touchwize apps I'll just not use.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
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I couldn't agree more to this!!!
No more carrier delays for me... and I really look forward to PURE AOSP! The closest I ever got to that was with CM 7 resp. CM 9 on my S2 and Nook tablets... and I liked it a lot!
Certainly better than st*pid HTC Sense..!
Can't wait for next week to arrive!!!!!!
why would you use a feature`less software like stock ics? i had galaxy nexus and it was boring ... tw may have bloat but it has nice features ... if you want stock buy google phone if you want sense buy htc ... simple...
plus if you look in the app drawer is ics stock like
It's a matter of preference. look at the stock ICS E-mail, Contacts and messaging apps. a combination of a Beautiful, modern design with the maximum possible functionality. It just looks, feels and works so well, exactly how a modern UI should. Google really hit the ball out of the park with holo.
Now look at the TW ones - they're basically the same FroYo ones used in the previous galaxies - they don't have that stremlined, modern look of stock ICS. They look dated and ancient and do not feel like ICS at all. The messaging app especially. Black background with grey borders and ugly buttons - and yellow and cyan chat bubbles.. seriously samsung?
having said that, TW does have a very, very good launcher - very smooth and very flexible - i have no issues with that. The TW UX launcher is even better in that regard. it's the core apps that piss me off because they look ugly and dated.

Pure Android JB on GS3?

Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?
Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
☞ sent from GS3 or Nexus
Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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delsus said:
Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?
Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
You have been zooo==>ted
Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
yken said:
All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.
One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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leoni1980 said:
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
XeactorZ said:
btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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markdj57 said:
I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.

I love Sense... Confessions of a AOSP lover

I've been a die hard AOSP guy. Came from a OG Droid then went to the Tbolt and helped port AOSP/Miui with that RIL but I hated it because it wasn't a full AOSP supported device. I got the Galaxy Nexus then a N7, N10 and finally a GSM Galaxy Nexus.
I swore I would be on AOSP the moment I got the device, but I held out. I tried it and I love it. There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything) and a few quirks here and there. But I am in l am in love with the beautiful interface, perfect keyboard (AOSP, Swype, & Swiftkey had a three way and this is it's baby) and most of all I am in love with the gallery and camera app. It's a very intuitive interface on the camera although autofocus can be wonky. BUT that's all made up for by the gallery.... The events (initially annoying) is fantastic. I love Zoe because it adds just that little bit to the memory and I am loving the way highlights creates a montage of images to music. I wish the music had more choices but it is almost perfect. I have a 10 month old and it makes the memories that much more special...
Thanks HTC for putting your heart and soul into this device and coming out with the best smartphone I have ever used
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altimax98 said:
There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything)
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you can expand some notifications in sense by zooming (pinching) out, there are no toggles though (altough older versions of sense used to have quick toggles before anyone else got them but somehow htc decided to ditch them in sense 4...)
Until we get 4.2... I have WidgetLocker and NiLS that gives me notifications on the lock screen.
Honestly, i am also an AOSP lover and i was pleasently surprised by sense 5, the only things that i miss now is the notification panel for my shortcuts, but i can get by pretty easy.
Also, hi there One community
There is messing a lot of things on this unfortunate and basic sense 5. Widgets, most practical sense widgets gone, skins (there are not any) only three different a kinds of unlock, application list never gone, always there. If you close your phone and open it, application list is there. Like blink feed but useless if you cannot add more feeds... So sense is very nice but there is munch things that missing...
godutch said:
you can expand some notifications in sense by zooming (pinching) out, there are no toggles though (altough older versions of sense used to have quick toggles before anyone else got them but somehow htc decided to ditch them in sense 4...)
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Use Power Toggles or Notification Toggles apps... download from PlayShop
I agree, Sense 5 is much better than previous versions of sense, but the app drawer really doesn't do it for me, still prefer almost everything about AOSP
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I've been a die hard AOSP guy. Came from a OG Droid then went to the Tbolt and helped port AOSP/Miui with that RIL but I hated it because it wasn't a full AOSP supported device. I got the Galaxy Nexus then a N7, N10 and finally a GSM Galaxy Nexus.
I swore I would be on AOSP the moment I got the device, but I held out. I tried it and I love it. There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything) and a few quirks here and there. But I am in l am in love with the beautiful interface, perfect keyboard (AOSP, Swype, & Swiftkey had a three way and this is it's baby) and most of all I am in love with the gallery and camera app. It's a very intuitive interface on the camera although autofocus can be wonky. BUT that's all made up for by the gallery.... The events (initially annoying) is fantastic. I love Zoe because it adds just that little bit to the memory and I am loving the way highlights creates a montage of images to music. I wish the music had more choices but it is almost perfect. I have a 10 month old and it makes the memories that much more special...
Thanks HTC for putting your heart and soul into this device and coming out with the best smartphone I have ever used
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I'm right there with you. I usually prefer the look and feel of AOSP - I couldn't stand Sense 4 or Sense 4+ - but Sense 5 is surprisingly good. It's almost as coheisve of a user experience as AOSP, if not more so.
I prefer a few things about Sense to AOSP – most notably the camera and the e-mail app. It also has some nice widgets, though nothing I couldn’t live without. I’ve actually come to kind-of like Blinkfeed when I have a few minutes to kill, but again, it’s nothing I couldn’t live without.
Occasionally, it even feels more cohesive than AOSP – for example, you can swipe left and right through e-mails in the e-mail app, the same way you can in the Gmail app. The last time I tried the AOSP Android mail client, it still didn’t support that, which was mildly infuriating.
Finally, Sense 5 is at least polite enough to try and compliment the Holo theme of AOSP – TouchWiz and Sense 4, on the other hand, look and feel like someone glued Gingerbread to Jellybean.
(I will still be SwiftKey 4 Life, though )
I never even setup Blink Feed... Thought it was stupid from the get go.
I installed Nova and have been loving the drawer and all the other great features.. the stock app drawer is lame though
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Yeah I'm not a fan of Sense and put another launcher on pretty quickly. I would love to move to something like CM10 but until I hear things like the camera has no loss in quality or the IR sender is working then it's a no go. I just hope that HTC at some point change the layout and allow the notification panels. Also their lockscreen is like arse!
What do you mean with notification panels, you mean the extended notifications with reply, read etc? Because these have already been implemented in sense.
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(I will still be SwiftKey 4 Life, though )
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I do find HTC's keyboard really great and full of features but I too think SwiftKey is the greatest (wish they had more themes)
...at least till Minuum takes over the wold
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I never even setup Blink Feed... Thought it was stupid from the get go.
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I think BlinkFeed is awesome. No more "what to do I'm bored" whenever I have a 2 minutes to check my phone. All the content I'm interested in is right there, waiting for me on the homescreen
I absolutely love sense 5 on this phone. I admit I have had to as Nova and other launchers run like ass on it, but it's faster and smoother than any other launcher anyway, and blinkfeed is brilliant.
AOSP CM etc are so ugly and featureless compared to sense. There is no single feature on 4.2.2, CM, AOSP or any launcher, I would now take over sense.
All I would take is the gallery app fom HTC One X or from the Xperia Z
Well done HTC.
+1 to the OP!
I love Sense 5, running my device stock/unrooted for a week since I got it and really don't miss full AOSP atm. Great work by HTC devs with Sense 5.
Ok... Here's my confession... I love TouchWiz. Sense too. These two skins are far better than AOSP.
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Hi, my name is xcomputerman and I'm a Sense lover.
My previous phone was a Galaxy S II. I managed Touchwiz for a few months but couldn't stand it anymore, so I finally went back to AOSP. For a while I spent time with ParanoidAndroid, then later gave up the joys of hybrid phabletism for the sheer purity of CM10.1. It was Android nirvana. Or so I thought.
HTC's Sense 5 has blown me away. It is better than stock Android. Flat out better. I'll say it. I do have a couple of niggles with it (I'd rather have BlinkFeed as a home screen widget instead of the way they have the launcher set up), but man. Sense is slick. Slick, refined, polished. The email client is five times better than the stock Android one. The SMS app is gorgeous. The dialer is so sexy. The fonts are clean. I had this longstanding annoyance with AOSP email in that the formatting in Exchange email replies was always a little different/weird, but HTC does it right. Everything looks cohesive and well thought out. The camera app is brilliant. The syncing is really well done.
I'm not looking to go back to an AOSP ROM anytime soon. As it is, despite my annoyances with the sense launcher, I'm even hesitant to replace it with my favorite (Nova).
Well done, HTC. Well done.
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I do find HTC's keyboard really great and full of features but I too think SwiftKey is the greatest (wish they had more themes)
...at least till Minuum takes over the wold
I think BlinkFeed is awesome. No more "what to do I'm bored" whenever I have a 2 minutes to check my phone. All the content I'm interested in is right there, waiting for me on the homescreen
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For me though BlinkFeed doesn't seem grown up enough. The selection is very limited and the app drawer is a nightmare lol
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The things you like have nothing to do with the skin of the phone. HTC could have just made a new gallery, camera and keyboard app without changing anything else.
Just because someone is an AOSP lover doesnt mean that they love all the stock android apps as well.
And lol at the person who said that cm10 looks bland, well you know you can just theme it however you like!
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The things you like have nothing to do with the skin of the phone. HTC could have just made a new gallery, camera and keyboard app without changing anything else.
Just because someone is an AOSP lover doesnt mean that they love all the stock android apps as well.
And lol at the person who said that cm10 looks bland, well you know you can just theme it however you like!
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Most themes are horrid . If you like a clean theme your going to have hard time with cm. And sooner or later everyone gets over flashing. I did it for 3 years but now I know it's not even worth it and for such people sense is more then perfect. Clean simple and elegant.
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I love Sense 5 too, but I miss the big Gallery widget very much! Don't understand why they threw out so many of the old widgets.

Well done HTC, very well done...

So I sat there last night, excited as a schoolboy on Xmas eve, waiting for the first fixed GE edition ROM to be uploaded, and there it was, before my very eyes....
Downloaded, installed and setup in the blink of an eye, Vanilla Android goodness...
24 hours later in back on Sense 4.2.2, and here's MY moral of the story, HTC have made such a good job of Sense 5 and how it runs on the One, that vanilla feels boring, plain, underpowered and undertooled.
Again I say well done HTC, first time I have ever missed using a manufacturers software.
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So I sat there last night, excited as a schoolboy on Xmas eve, waiting for the first fixed GE edition ROM to be uploaded, and there it was, before my very eyes....
Downloaded, installed and setup in the blink of an eye, Vanilla Android goodness...
24 hours later in back on Sense 4.2.2, and here's MY moral of the story, HTC have made such a good job of Sense 5 and how it runs on the One, that vanilla feels boring, plain, underpowered and undertooled.
Again I say well done HTC, first time I have ever missed using a manufacturers software.
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I will have to agree with you except I didn't run the ge version. I had the nexus 4 before and never rooted the thing. I feel that Samsung and HTC are doing a great job with their stock roms now that flashing stock android just feels plain.
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Right there with you but only because I had a couple of random reboots and tethering is broken, but I'm sure these issues will be ironed out when we get a real rom from a shipped device.
It was supposed to read "im back on Sense on 4.2.2"
Basically if I had brought the GE version and was sat next to a friend with the Sense 5 version, I would feel a little let down with my purchase. Im so happy we have such great devs and community here because I was seriously considering selling my non-GE and buying the GE, now i have basically had it for 24 hours, I won't be bothering.
If the ir blaster worked in aosp I would be using it over sense, I bought this phone for the hardware, completely planning on flashing an aosp Rom as soon as there was one I liked. To be honest though, I did kind of fall head over heels for sense after I got it themed a little but I still have all intentions to flash stock android on it when everything works right. I will miss my BlinkFeed and my sense widgets. Lol
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It's funny. I keep reading blog and forum posts calling this this thing a failure and bashing HTC and Samsung for this Google Edition stuff and the way they are handling it.
Maybe I'll come off as an apologist, but seriously... really? I've owned both the S4 and the One. I prefer the one, but they are both great phones, (Even with Touchwiz the S4 is a good machine).
I always find myself in the same boat... take a stock current version Sense (Or Touchwiz) Rom and debloat and desense it as much as possible. I always try and get the AOSP lockscreen, MMS, and Email working (I hate the manufacturer apps usually). At the end of the day I try really really really hard to get an AOSP experience on the manufacturers frameworks for stability.
Yesterday I installed the GPe leak that bigxie released...and blamo...here is exactly what I've been going for. The quick setting error and tethering will be fixed...hell the leak just leaked yesterday.
This is the opposite of a failure in my eyes. This is exactly what I wanted.
Thanks HTC and Google.
Agreed with OP. I installed the GE rom last night and it feels boring and lacking now that I've used sense 5. I used to love running aosp roms but I found myself missing tethering, the IR blaster, the camera, blinkfeed... the list goes on. Sense 5 is really polished and highly funtional and the aosp camera doesn't even come close, aside from photosphere. The main benefits for me to run aosp roms in the past have been for speed and battery life, but that is no longer necessary as Android Revolution with sense 5 perfoms every bit as good, if not better.
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So I sat there last night, excited as a schoolboy on Xmas eve, waiting for the first fixed GE edition ROM to be uploaded, and there it was, before my very eyes....
Downloaded, installed and setup in the blink of an eye, Vanilla Android goodness...
24 hours later in back on Sense 4.2.2, and here's MY moral of the story, HTC have made such a good job of Sense 5 and how it runs on the One, that vanilla feels boring, plain, underpowered and undertooled.
Again I say well done HTC, first time I have ever missed using a manufacturers software.
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Google edition doesbt have ir blaster ?
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ac3kill said:
Google edition doesbt have ir blaster ?
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Not baked in like it is with Sense. You can get 3rd party IR apps I have read and they will work.
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The GE ROM does have the cool 4.2.2 lockscreen widget capability. Hopefully that feature comes to the Sense 5 4.2.2 ROMs. So far, 2.17 and 2.19 based firmwares don't have it enabled yet.
I downloaded the GE straight away it's very nice however I would replace with a stable pacman rom in a heartbeat.
Am going to stick with the GE for a bit though but of all the things I miss it Blinkfeed that stands out.
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There will always be 1 reason for me personally why I can't use sense and that is issues it has with LCD Density (DPI), it just doesnt work right and I can't stand default densities on phones they look too big for me lol.
Overall I have to agree. I do love the smoothness and look of the GE Rom but the camera falls well short of what is capable of on Sense. A couple of things that still baffle me about vanilla android is the lack of an option to have the battery percentage built into stock as well as no drop down volume adjustment option. Sure I can use the volume rockers but it should be standard on the drop down menu. I believe we have reached a point where the manufacturer skins are just more functional than we like to give them credit for.
henrybravo said:
The GE ROM does have the cool 4.2.2 lockscreen widget capability. Hopefully that feature comes to the Sense 5 4.2.2 ROMs. So far, 2.17 and 2.19 based firmwares don't have it enabled yet.
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Actually ViperOne just got it in their new update. There is a bug where if someone calls you you have to input your password to answer. I actually don't mind cuz then no prying eyes can see who's calling or answer on my behalf
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jhonsok said:
Actually ViperOne just got it in their new update. There is a bug where if someone calls you you have to input your password to answer. I actually don't mind cuz then no prying eyes can see who's calling or answer on my behalf
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Yeah that password bug is a show stopper for me personally. TrickDroid also has has an AOSP lockscreen option with the same bug. It will be nice if/when Sense ROMs support lockscreen widgets natively so the AOSP-like lockscreen works properly.
I can haz lockscreen widgets. (With no phone call bug.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343150
iElvis said:
I can haz lockscreen widgets. (With no phone call bug.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343150
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That is..... AWWEESSOOOMEEE. i find the widgets look so much better than the AOSP widgets :laugh:
I agree with the statement of the OP... sense for me is (since sense 4) the best integration with android that a Smartphone could have, thats why i leave SGS3 and change it for the HOX, and why i selected the one, GE give us the opportunity to probe that pure stock android is somewhat overrated, but do not misunderstand me, I like the pure android, I even using it right now and I gonna use it for a good time; it has its own advantages, but eventually I know I gonna return to sense...

Sense 5 vs Google Edition Discussion

What do you guys think, normal HTC One because its features or the Google Edition for fast updates and a better look?
At first point I was really excited to see HTC One GE thinking that I'll definitely buy that version. But, I ended up buying Sense version of this phone and have to say that by using my brothers Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7 all the time, I love Sense 5.
The biggest problem for me with previous handsets, even One X was that Sense slowed down the whole device. I felt like it's stopping some of the great power which is hidden inside the gem so I kept rooting the phone straight away.
With One, I haven't thought about rooting it ever before. Sense 5 is very light, modern and fast. As a fan of Flipboard I am also loving blink feed.
So I guess Sense 5 wins for me but I it's only a matter of taste.
I went back to sense 5 its just that good! and theres nothing like the speed of Aosp on a dedicated nexus device. its just not the same on a non nexus device
I did a comparison
jwtrockz1998 said:
What do you guys think, normal HTC One becuase its features or the Google Edition for fast updates?
(Just tell me if there is another thread about this and I will delete this one)
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Flashed the full GE rom and ran it for 3 solid days. I have to honestly say that
Sense is better. Here are my observations:
1 - Battery life - BOTH excellent
2 - Lag - Sense has less lag
3 - Sound - This one to me is very important. Listening to mp3's on the device
both with Beats Audio ON the Sense rom has MUCH BETTER sound. Everything sounds
richer, more bass just sounds great. On the GE rom the sound was tinny. no comparison.
4 - Remote is back - controlling my complete home theatre.
5 - Email system on Sense is better for my corporate account
6 - Call quality - Again MUCH better on the Sense rom. Louder and clearer. Had calls fade in and out as reported on this and other threads with
the GE rom.
7 - Video recording - NO comparison - Sense is MUCH BETTER
8 - Camera - Again Zoe and the Sense enhancements - No comparison the Sense is better
9 - LTE speeds on the Sense rom blew away the GE rom, same exact location yielded almost 50% increase
in speed on ATT using speedtest.net.
I am glad I did the trial so I would not wonder how the GE rom would perform.
I did manage to get my 64 gb. Developer Edition back to Stock. I am S-off, unlocked, and super CID. I am a happy camper.
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If I didn't already have the ATT version I would probably opt for the GE version. I have been running the GE ROM since the first one was cooked up the day after the GPe's went on sale. I just love the look and feel of it, and there isn't anything I really miss about SENSE. I will tell you that Sense 5 is by far and away the best manufacturer skin/overlay I have ever used. It is light and fluent and it's much better to look at than TOUCHWIZ. The post above me stated many compelling reasons to stick with Sense, but for me personally I am happy on the GE ROM. I was perfectly happy before the GE version was even announced and I could be just as happy running Sense 5 permanently.
I noticed that anyone that already has seen the nexus experience, is kinda happy to see the change and likes sense. Personally I am an example of it. Went from the n4 to this, and I didn't even feel the need to root this unroll like the 4th day of owning it. Usually I do it the first few hours.
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I believe Paul over at [email protected] is working on a switch which allows users to have both on the phone at the same time and then just switch between the 2, so basically best of both worlds
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Google edition for me. I actually ordered one, but when I saw how long it would take to get it, and since I had an upgrade, I just cancelled, ordered one from ATT, and flashed the google edition rom.
I just like vanilla a lot more than any skin.
Sense sucks. I despise it. But too many of this phone's features rely on it. So I continue to use it.
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For the first time, I actually like using a OEM skin, Sense 5 is great, I'm probably flashing a new ROM every day since I can't decide.
I switched over to the GE ROM. Having used Cyanogenmod for the past two years or so, I've grown accustomed to vanilla Android, and much prefer its aesthetics and familiarity (even if it's missing the CM tweaks.) As far as Sense goes, I did not find myself fully exploiting it while I used it; some features not even being used once (Blinkfeed, highlights.) Using Zoe felt foreign to me. Other aspects of the UI felt too busy for me. Didn't like the white menus and the font. Aside from this, I liked Sense as much as the next person. I liked the way the camera app was setup, and preferred the stock web browser over Chrome.
In my experience so far, the GE ROM performs just a touch better if, for any reason, its better app integration. For example, Poweramp's lock screen overlay would sometimes not show up on Sense, and a number of one-button headsets wouldn't properly control the app. Both of these features are fully operational on the GE ROM. Another example; Chrome performs noticeably better on the GE ROM (smoother scrolling, on par with the stock Sense browser.)
On the downside, I do not care for the GE camera at all -- especially its UI. It performs up to snuff, but seems to lose its footing in extremely low light situations, unlike the Sense camera. The GE camera opts for flash much more often, as well.
Finally, I should add that I get better battery life on the GE ROM.
At the end of the day, for a device I typically interact with for 45 seconds at a time, I'd rather be using the GE ROM over Sense. I really think a lot of it just comes down to the familiarity.
i prefer sense style and apps, google edition look very poor. :S
I'm glad someone started a thread like this.
I've always hated Sense (since the Windows Mobile days!). Every time I bought a new HTC the first thing I did was see if a AOSP rom was available for it. I just didn't like how ugly the UI was and how sluggish it made the phone feel. AOSP just seemed simpler, faster, and cleaner. Minimalism is my thing.
When I got the HTC One the first thing I did was change the launcher and tried to get the UI to look as close to AOSP as possible. I didn't even give Blinkfeed a chance. In my head it was gonna be just like the other bloated crap HTC put on their phones. The camera was nice and took decent pictures. I didn't care too much about Zoe's mostly because I just didn't see the hype surrounding it, but maybe I'm using wrong lol. The speakers are awesome.
Then the GE ROMs came into play. I was so excited I could barely contain myself. I flashed the GE ROM and instantly loved it. I had it for about a week or two. I then started to miss the camera from Sense, and the audio, and the power saver feature, and the gallery. I loved the GE ROM and it's minimalism, but I felt that my phone wasn't being used to its full potential. So, I gave myself a challenge. I was going to flash back to a Sense ROM for a week and use it as HTC had intended. Well, a week had gone by and I still have a Sense ROM. I actually love it! Blinkfeed is very handy. All of the HTC apps are actually really useful. I find myself using my phone a lot more now. I think I'm just gonna stick with Sense for a while.
I'm using the GE ROM right now but once I saw there was an Android Revolution ROM I instantly downloaded it and made a backup of GE. I've been on a Nexus S for a while and I'm starting to get bored of the AOSP look and feel. At least until the new version is out.
I prefer Sense, but I just wish some things were done differently, especially on the UI front. For example, I wish that the dock on the homescreens was the same as the one in the lock screen, instead of having that hideous black background. Also, they need to better optimize it for high pixel density screens; everything looks too big, especially the menu bar! Speaking of menu bar, why did they change the notification shade to fully black, instead of the see through AOSP one? I definitely prefer the AOSP gallery app and its better Picasa/G+ integration, so I'm running stock Sense, with the AOSP camera/gallery app apk installed, so I can choose whichever one I want I love Sense music player, especially the karaoke mode! Overall, is say that Sense I'd better for me, especially UI issues aside, I can't think of anything that AOSP does better.
I love HTC Sense5 more than Google Edition, because the BlinkFeed is very friendly for me,
it can show me lots of information in the same time.
Went from sense to GP edition with logo as recent apps. Its just absolutely no contestb I don't miss a single thing.
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I brought the sense version and used that for a while and didn't mind it, but last weekend I did the conversion to the Google Edition and it's great, I do miss the highlights and blinkfeed, but I have been using flipboard which is much better than blinkfeed and the google look feels less heavy than the sense rom lol if you know what I mean. Most people don't like the google camera app but funny enough I actually like it lol.
vash1053 said:
Sense sucks. I despise it. But too many of this phone's features rely on it. So I continue to use it.
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lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DInQuPll0

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