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me and my universal had an accident/coaxial cable ?

hi,
some time ago had car accident and my universal was my sat nav at that point. since it was a serious thing (my car is scraped in germany now ) my uni got demaged. i lost battery and back cocer but all the rest looked OK untis i switched it on. i mean when it does switch on the screen is white and that is all it does. i think the rest is ok cos i can hear some voices made by my uni and the leds are working.
i did some research and it maybe due to the coaxial cable. so i took my uni apart , localized the cable but it seems ok..i mean how do i know if it is its fault ?? if anybady gat a spare one or other sugestions then i am always willing to hear some. the cable costs around 70 GBP so i am not sure if i want to heve a go
cheers,
cudo

Are you sure?
Coaxial Cable? What would it be doing inside a cellphone?
Those are used to transmit TV signals, since they are shielded against radio-frequency interference. Plus they are about as thick as the Uni's base, and very rigid.
Are you sure you read it right?(No offense meant...)

hi, thank you for your wisdom mate but i am sure. try searching "coaxial cable" and you will learn something new....
can someone tell me if the white screen of my uni is caused by this cable or there may be other cause of this problem. after i took it apart and took out the cable it looks as if it is OK. i mean it is not broken or snatched...
advice please !
cudo

mzalan said:
Coaxial Cable? What would it be doing inside a cellphone?
Those are used to transmit TV signals, since they are shielded against radio-frequency interference. Plus they are about as thick as the Uni's base, and very rigid.
Are you sure you read it right?(No offense meant...)
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Best to post 'facts' when you're sure your right.

cudo said:
hi,
some time ago had car accident and my universal was my sat nav at that point. since it was a serious thing (my car is scraped in germany now ) my uni got demaged. i lost battery and back cocer but all the rest looked OK untis i switched it on. i mean when it does switch on the screen is white and that is all it does. i think the rest is ok cos i can hear some voices made by my uni and the leds are working.
i did some research and it maybe due to the coaxial cable. so i took my uni apart , localized the cable but it seems ok..i mean how do i know if it is its fault ?? if anybady gat a spare one or other sugestions then i am always willing to hear some. the cable costs around 70 GBP so i am not sure if i want to heve a go
cheers,
cudo
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I've seen posts about the white screen before on here. It seems to happen when people drop them too. Since it has received a strong 'shock' in the car accident, I'd look up posts on dropped phones. Try a search on stuff like 'dopped' + 'white screen'. Hope you can fix it. There are also posts about very cheap repairs being done at local phone repair centers.
Good luck.
Try these for starters - the first one asks a guy who dropped his phone if he can still see inside it on active sync - if so it looks like a screen connector problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1096630&highlight=white+screen+dropped#post1096630
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1094440#post1094440

All right, all right, mea culpa...
Up till now, I thought that was what coaxial cable meant. I didn't know the screen connector was called coaxial too.
So, once again, sorry for posting without knowing...

hi, i am happy now - i took my uni all apart then put it all together acording to mannual and what i have read after c.a hour of strugling with uni i managed to put the batter in and switch the uni on and ...it strarts up normally , no white screen ...everything seems to be alright now. i think it was caused by lose contection of cables and fortunately not the 70 quid coaxial cable itself ...
cheers,
cudo

cudo said:
hi, i am happy now - i took my uni all apart then put it all together acording to mannual and what i have read after c.a hour of strugling with uni i managed to put the batter in and switch the uni on and ...it strarts up normally , no white screen ...everything seems to be alright now. i think it was caused by lose contection of cables and fortunately not the 70 quid coaxial cable itself ...
cheers,
cudo
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Great news! I bet you're happy. I would be. It seems that strong shocks like being dropped (or being in a car crash mounted on the dashboard) can shock the thing so that the cables become slightly disconnected. Well done for fixing it.
Reading this forum lets me know what I'm in for when I drop mine... It is bound to happen sooner or later. At the moment, I'm keeping a very tight grip on it.

mzalan said:
All right, all right, mea culpa...
Up till now, I thought that was what coaxial cable meant. I didn't know the screen connector was called coaxial too.
So, once again, sorry for posting without knowing...
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OK. Good luck.

Okay, I opened my Hermes and need some help (pics inside)

Hey,
Which one is my part number ? the one starting with 50H ? If yes why does it not start with 60?
I can't find any replacement on the internet or ebay.
Where can I get a new screen?
another question, All the cables and modules stuck to the screen, do I need to remove them and put them on my new screen or do they come with the replacement ?
thanks
please look at the pics and tell me which one is my part number
thanks

Okay I removed the Orange film and found it!
But darrrnn I twisted the orange display cable, it has a little twist in it now, did i damage it ?

Although i do not recognize the partnumber, it looks exactly like the Hermes 2 gen screen.
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/HTC-Cingula...10364QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
This is the one i bought and it works perfectly.

exxi said:
Okay I removed the Orange film and found it!
But darrrnn I twisted the orange display cable, it has a little twist in it now, did i damage it ?
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Probably not, those things are pretty strong.

Good, one more thing
My device has a 60H00037-01M Screen
on ebay I can buy 60H00037-00M
Will it still work ?

Yes it will, i had the same number.

Touchscreen doesn't work when slider open

hi,
since yesterday, my niki doesn´t response to touchscreen tapping if the slider is opened. i hear a very quiet metallic clicking sound if i open it up... if i try tapping the touchscreen before this little click appears, the touch works... but with slider open completely, it doesn´t. i guess this is hardware specific. i´ve tried a hardreset now, but still doesnt work any advice?
EDIT: i didnt flash any other radio...
EDIT2: sometimes it does work.

Sounds like a ribbon cable has come loose to the touch screen - send it back if it is under warranty, if not, Mike Channon has collected links to the service manuals somewhere on here which should show you how to correctly take it apart, fix it and put it back together again
Cheers,
Smiffy

I had the same problem. In my device it was: cable that goes to touch screen contacted metal on back panel.
I've solve it by finding manual to take my niki apart (http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch_dual/ - but it is in russian). I've done everything till 6 point. Then I put my v-card between this cable and metal. Now it's ok

I've got extra service on mine.
6 euro's a month.
handed in the phone today (same issue), and got given an new one! ;D

_Zorro_ said:
I had the same problem. In my device it was: cable that goes to touch screen contacted metal on back panel.
I've solve it by finding manual to take my niki apart (http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch_dual/ - but it is in russian). I've done everything till 6 point. Then I put my v-card between this cable and metal. Now it's ok
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You ROCK! I had this exact same problem happen on my NIKI100 after I put Tom's Niki Project ROM on & immediately blamed it but after flashin back to stock the problem still occured & I was really bummin! I found this thread, tore my NIKI apart to step 6 as you described & I could see the spots on the metal of the inside back of the back cover where the cable was rubbing along with the protective plastic worn off on the cable a little bit so I suspect it was touching the metal & shorting out causing the problem (heck I'm surprised it didn't do some real damage!) so I cut about a 1" length of electrical tape & taped it to the area of the metal that it was rubbing on (I didn't see any legit reason for anything to make contact to that area for a ground so I figured it was OK. I started at the edge & ended just before the gaps where you would be able to see the tape from the other side in the battery cavity) and VOILA! it fixed it! To me it looks like a nasty design flaw on HTC's part but not expecting a recall any time soon. I suspect this fix will out last the phone & hopefully this thread will help others. I am 1/2 tempted to tear apart my NEON to see if the same design exists or if they put a piece of tape in that area.

the_fish said:
hi,
since yesterday, my niki doesn´t response to touchscreen tapping if the slider is opened. i hear a very quiet metallic clicking sound if i open it up... if i try tapping the touchscreen before this little click appears, the touch works... but with slider open completely, it doesn´t. i guess this is hardware specific. i´ve tried a hardreset now, but still doesnt work any advice?
EDIT: i didnt flash any other radio...
EDIT2: sometimes it does work.
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well i got the same problem as u have/had... But i also need to align my phone like ten times a day, because its always out of alignment... I think i got to get back to the phoneshop to fix(replace) my phone. I do have the touch dual for 6 months now.

PhoenixNLx said:
well i got the same problem as u have/had... But i also need to align my phone like ten times a day, because its always out of alignment... I think i got to get back to the phoneshop to fix(replace) my phone. I do have the touch dual for 6 months now.
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Hm, same problem here. Thought first that it was an error of the ROM that I used..
Btw: isolated every contat that I could find (nearly ) but no result -> still my touchscreen doesn't work when my slide is open..
EDIT: has anyone PHOTO'S of their disassembly and isolation work? I the problem is different on my device 'cuz the cable hasn't worn off...

Ok,
Now I took my device apart to the last piece, took the display cable apart, taped it in completely and my touchscreen WORKS once again :-D.
Woot! Thumbs up for XDA-developers!
EDIT: Now my touchscreen doesn't work when slide's closed... Any suggestion?

kvstrien said:
Ok,
Now I took my device apart to the last piece, took the display cable apart, taped it in completely and my touchscreen WORKS once again :-D.
Woot! Thumbs up for XDA-developers!
EDIT: Now my touchscreen doesn't work when slide's closed... Any suggestion?
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ive brought my dual to a vodafone shop and they have fixed my dual. Replaced a part and software update, got windows 6.1 now, legal and my screen is working like a champ!

I have had the same problem with my touch screen except mine stopped working completely, it didn't matter if it was slide out or not. I could get the phone replaced on warranty though.
Just posting so people know this isn't just isolated case.

mine slowly stopped working.. im gonna disassemble later and try this. im glad im not alone
edit: worked a treat. some insulation tape on the metal shielding worked great.

That did't work for me! Can it be something else or is it the flex cable for shure? I'm considering buying a new flex cable on ebay! Will that fix the problem with touchscreen dos'nt work when slide is open?

theres a 99% chance that its the flex cable.. did you check it for any damage? mine had tiny tiny little dots with wire exposed. barely noticable but it was enough. try taping the cable. i dont know. if not, i'd get a new cable for sure.

It's worth a try. I've just bought a new cable. Hopefully it will make my
Dual working again. Now I just have to wait a week for it.

The cable arrived today and my dual now works perfect. Now the question is which phone i'll use, my dual or my new Diamond.. =)

hey, where did you get yours from? and how much did it cost?
i have seen ebay, but they are over 30$US including shipping.
Cheers,
palitu

Klingan said:
The cable arrived today and my dual now works perfect. Now the question is which phone i'll use, my dual or my new Diamond.. =)
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[HOWTO] [REF] Get Download Mode without 3-button combo using homemade JIG

This guide is for the situation where your phone is not booting and the three-button combo for getting into download mode is not working for some reason, and you have tried all the other solutions in the FAQ. It won't help you if you can already get into download mode but something else is going wrong with the flashing process, for example you can't get Odin to communicate with the phone.
If the phone's bootloader is still intact, that is you see at least the white Galaxy S/Samsung/AT&T logo or the "PC ! Phone" logo on the screen, you should be able to force it into download mode by connecting a homemade jig that simulates the Samsung "Anyway" field test jig. You can buy these jigs online, or make them using a micro USB plug and a resistor.
If your phone screen is always black, that is it does not display the white Galaxy S/Samsung/AT&T logo when you switch it on, then sorry, this jig will not help you.
If this helps you recover your bricked phone, please donate to the CyanogenMod developers: go to this thread and click the link under "SUPPORT US". Thanks.
If you don't want to buy a pre-made jig, you can build one yourself from a few parts. You will need:
1. a micro USB plug that you can solder onto. If you are not confident with soldering or you just want a tidy solution, buy this micro USB breakout board from Sparkfun.
Otherwise, get a cheap micro USB cable and cut the sleeving off the plug with a sharp knife. You cannot just wire onto the cable because this jig uses a normally-unused pin (pin 4) of the micro USB plug which will not be connected to the cable.
2. a 301k resistor. You can buy one from Digikey, or make one up by joining several resistors together in series, for example 3x100k and 1x1k. The resistor value does need to be fairly accurate (I would guess within 1% of 301k) to trigger download mode. 300K seems to work for everyone so far.
Procedure:
1. Solder the resistor across pins 4 and 5 of the micro USB plug. Do not do this with the plug plugged in to the phone as the heat could damage the phone's USB socket. The pins are shown in this diagram ("Micro-B"). On the Sparkfun micro USB breakout board they are labelled "ID" (pin 4) and "GND" (pin 5). When the plug is plugged in to the phone they will be the pins closest to the headphone socket.
2. Make sure the phone is fully switched off by pulling the battery, waiting 5 minutes, then replacing the battery. Do not switch the phone on.
3. Connect the rigged USB plug to the phone. Try not to touch the pins on the back of the plug or the resistor(s) as you are plugging it in, as your skin resistance could affect the resistor value seen by the phone. You do not need to press the power button. After a few seconds the phone should go into download mode.
4. Disconnect the rigged USB plug and connect a regular USB cable from your PC to the phone, then you should be able to flash using Odin.
For more information on how this works see this thread and this thread.

I knew you guys would figure it out - well done. I will build one before I attempt rooting and flashing
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

If this works then thats amazing, I will have to make one!

Well we only have one confirmation so far. If it does work for you please let us know what state your phone was in prior to using it as I'm interested to see what problems it can repair.

TheBeano said:
Well we only have one confirmation so far. If it does work for you please let us know what state your phone was in prior to using it as I'm interested to see what problems it can repair.
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I would try but my phone is with samsung and I'm not all too handy with a soldering iron =)

Hi, anyone have pictures of the cable with the resistor soldered? I am just unsure where to solder it, is it on the micro usb cable side or the standard usb (on which end of the cable?) and which part of the cable do you need to cut open? (i heard there is a pin/wire that usually isn't used?)
Also, if i decided to go with the breakout board, i would only have to get the board+301k resistor plugged in the 4 and 5 pin and plug it in the galaxy and would boot in download mode?
Thank you very much!

Thank You!
TheBeano said:
you should be able to flash using Odin
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Oh, man, You are cooool It works like a charm for Me. Thank You!

This is awesome!
added to the wiki

sackofnoise said:
I am just unsure where to solder it, is it on the micro usb cable side or the standard usb (on which end of the cable?) and which part of the cable do you need to cut open? (i heard there is a pin/wire that usually isn't used?)
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Only the micro USB plug has 5 pins (regular USB plug has 4) so it has to be the micro USB plug. You have to cut the sleeving (insulation) right off the plug. You can disconnect the cable from the plug or leave it attached, but don't plug the other end (the regular USB end) into anything.
sackofnoise said:
Also, if i decided to go with the breakout board, i would only have to get the board+301k resistor plugged in the 4 and 5 pin and plug it in the galaxy and would boot in download mode?
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Yes that's all there is to it.

Tried it, worked once. now phone not doing anything. no lights or boot screen......

MarkyG82 said:
Tried it, worked once. now phone not doing anything. no lights or boot screen......
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Were you able to flash it after it went into download mode? Did you try pulling the battery for a while?

Thanks for your reply. I got it working by your suggestion. Seen many others saying leave the battery out for a while and also seen peeps saying do the 3buttonbootwhile inserting the battery.
As my home made jig was soldered with the pins out of the plug I wiggled it/them about in the socket to ensure a connection was made, then I inserted the battery.
Panic over. Flashed JP1 with 512. not been on for long so cant confirm all is working but looks promising.
I am putting this gadget in a !!!!!!S.A.F.E!!!!!! place.
Also will be available for borrowing in the S/SE UK if anyone is interested.
Im gonna leave playing firmware for while as my heart cant take much more at the mo
Many thanks to OP and others for various tips.
The short answer is yes

MarkyG82 said:
Thanks for your reply. I got it working by your suggestion. Seen many others saying leave the battery out for a while and also seen peeps saying do the 3buttonbootwhile inserting the battery.
As my home made jig was soldered with the pins out of the plug I wiggled it/them about in the socket to ensure a connection was made, then I inserted the battery.
Panic over. Flashed JP1 with 512. not been on for long so cant confirm all is working but looks promising.
I am putting this gadget in a !!!!!!S.A.F.E!!!!!! place.
Also will be available for borrowing in the S/SE UK if anyone is interested.
Im gonna leave playing firmware for while as my heart cant take much more at the mo
Many thanks to OP and others for various tips.
The short answer is yes
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Can you take a pictures of the micro usb soldered and about the procedure or a short video to youtube

haha
d47 said:
If this works then thats amazing, I will have to make one!
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and if u make one ill have to come see you soo i can get mine done since your only in bris haha

celtichazard said:
Can you take a pictures of the micro usb soldered and about the procedure or a short video to youtube
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1+ yess please so we know what we are doing thnx

natao2nv said:
and if u make one ill have to come see you soo i can get mine done since your only in bris haha
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haha gladly, I've ordered all the parts (i had to get a soldering iron and the whole kit lol).

d47 said:
haha gladly, I've ordered all the parts (i had to get a soldering iron and the whole kit lol).
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Haha i have a soldering iron how hrd do ya rekon it will be to make this thing do u rekon it wil boot a non 3 button download on black screen of death ph-!-pc into download mode soo i can get a stick rom back on it i realy miss my galaxy this xperia x10 cost me more but nothing the same haha
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

celtichazard said:
Can you take a pictures of the micro usb soldered and about the procedure or a short video to youtube
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Ill see what i can do when i get home. The hardest bit was to make sure the soldered tops of the pins dont touch. Had to redo them a few times. Resistors got hot too but as it worked im confident i didnt bust them.
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MarkyG82 said:
Ill see what i can do when i get home. The hardest bit was to make sure the soldered tops of the pins dont touch. Had to redo them a few times. Resistors got hot too but as it worked im confident i didnt bust them.
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Looking forward to see this
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Thanks everyone who helped solve this problem. I have a i9000 and flashed it with the captivate rom. I could not charge the phone so I tried to reflash with original software, I used the 803 pit file. It stopped and i waited for about 10 minutes and disconnected the phone and I got the screen of death.
I did this last week and was going to take it to Samsung after the Froyo upgrade came live and I was going to say that it happened when I tried to upgrade.
Guess what I made this USB factory jig and I was so happy that it went into download mode. This made me so happy many thanks and i will wait until the official upgrade comes.
I used a old nokia USB connector stripped the plastic off and bought a 300k resistor from Jaycar for 45 cents and this must be the best 45 cents I have ever spent.
harry

Vibrant T959 Only Turns On With Charger Connected

I have a Samsung Vibrant T959 TMobile US with 2.1-update1, Baseband T959UVJI6.
The battery is fully charged, it registers in the phone as fully charged 100%, but when I hit the power button I get a progess wheel that gets stuck, then the phone just turns off. It never gets passed that wheel, it only displays for a second then dies.
However, when I plug in the USB and hit the power button, it comes right up like it should. Then I can unplug the usb and use the phone just fine. Its almost as if I need to jump-start the phone with a power source.
I have reset the phone, even re-flashed the stock firmware using Odin. Same results. I have even swapped batteries with a buddy just to see if that was the case, but I still got the same results.
Any advice or suggestions is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Very Much In Advance!

Anybody? Any ideas?

Well, that is new to me...
I'll preface with, I have no clue how/why that is happening. But, this is what I would do:
1 - If really opposed to rooting, I'd call T-Mo / Samsung and get a replacement.
2 - If I liked my phone and wanted to make it better, I'd root it and flash a custom ROM. It likely would take care of the issue, as it clearly is not a hardware thing (well, I say clearly).
Worst case with #2, ODIN back to stock and then do option 1.

possible solution
also it says "USB connected" even when cable is unplugged? I had similar problem.. I tried everything, flashing, changing batteries.. none of that was useful. Then I find some post on some forum that says it might be corrosion, so i scratched my USB with thin wire and everything worked fine, but also scratching USB I was doing one more thing. In my opinion, I think that it's not corrosion. I think that USB is slightly bent (middle part of it), try to bent it in other direction, possible that it's too close to edge. That solved my problem. Tell me if this helpful for you, sorry about my english

we87 said:
Anybody? Any ideas?
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did you ever figure out? im in the same boat...
admirh said:
also it says "USB connected" even when cable is unplugged? I had similar problem.. I tried everything, flashing, changing batteries.. none of that was useful. Then I find some post on some forum that says it might be corrosion, so i scratched my USB with thin wire and everything worked fine, but also scratching USB I was doing one more thing. In my opinion, I think that it's not corrosion. I think that USB is slightly bent (middle part of it), try to bent it in other direction, possible that it's too close to edge. That solved my problem. Tell me if this helpful for you, sorry about my english
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i think i can get what you are saying, cleaning the usb port on the phone right??
BUT how does this affect turning the phone on?? if usb port is rusty, it will only affect charging, not turning the power on?

I experienced this identical issue last fall -- the USB would always say it was connected, wouldn't startup unless connected to actual USB, but otherwise worked fine.
Take your phone apart and look at the solder joints on your microUSB port... mine all had cracks in them or had broken free. I re-flowed the solder while holding the port down and it resolved my issues. (put on some flux, and run a hot soldering iron across the joints, clean up... it's not very difficult. just be sure you don't short out any of the pins.) I also added additional solder to the four points that just hold the mircoUSB to the circuit board. It's been rock solid since

Rahhstah said:
I experienced this identical issue last fall -- the USB would always say it was connected, wouldn't startup unless connected to actual USB, but otherwise worked fine.
Take your phone apart and look at the solder joints on your microUSB port... mine all had cracks in them or had broken free. I re-flowed the solder while holding the port down and it resolved my issues. (put on some flux, and run a hot soldering iron across the joints, clean up... it's not very difficult. just be sure you don't short out any of the pins.) I also added additional solder to the four points that just hold the mircoUSB to the circuit board. It's been rock solid since
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that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?

lazi punk said:
that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?
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See if there is a TV or electronic repair place still in business in your area. Or post an ad on CL asking someone with knowledge and skill to do it. Be careful they aren't an idiot just wanting 20 bucks and happen to own a soldering iron.

lazi punk said:
that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?
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you could see if Cell Phone Repair/ is near you and describe to them what you want to do.

I would go through these guys they are top notch helped me when i soft bricked my wife's phone. He even convinced me that i could fix it myself when i was ready to send it to them for a jtag.
They can replace the usb plug if thats the issue.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-vibrant/

I would test to see if my battery is bad first before i went about resoldering, it could easily be a bad battery.

Xdogg said:
I would go through these guys they are top notch helped me when i soft bricked my wife's phone. He even convinced me that i could fix it myself when i was ready to send it to them for a jtag.
They can replace the usb plug if thats the issue.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-vibrant/
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thank you for the response. I definitely think the usb port is an issue. what is a jtag? haha
ferhanmm said:
I would test to see if my battery is bad first before i went about resoldering, it could easily be a bad battery.
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No my stock battery is charging and i did buy a separate battery. same issue.