After reading some of these rom installation instructions it seems to me the SGT roms are a lot "harder" to install than the android cell phones. Even with running Clockwork mod 3.0-beta it would seem you should be able to install straight from the sd card, but I haven't heard anything saying this is possible.
Guess my question is why is the installation of rom's so different from phones and tablet?
Also i really wish this forum was seperated into 2 catagories CDMA tabs and sim versions of the tab.
Errrr you can install roms from the SD via cwm
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I too wish it was separated....i have a Sprint tab and are now more confused than ever and I flash roms on my DInc every couple of days.
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Well, it is pretty much like my HTC Desire for me now. Just use ODIN to install MoDaCo's Kernel (either RFS or ext4 version, ext4 conversion is well worth it though) and then you can use CWM, included with the Kernel, to install new ROMs, Kernels, etc, just like normal.
I do agree there is a lot of conflicting info but that is kinda expected with development on a new device. It is all starting to mature, which is sweet.
Thanks Good info
Ya I know its a maturing device but hopefully in the future we can have is ether separated into separate forums or have sticky's with links to most popular stuff for each version of the device.
So I'm kinda in between if I want to root my nexus 7. I have rooted a lot of phones before but that was all just to get stock android. Seen as how this is stock already I can't seem to find a good reason beside putting Ubuntu on my nexus. Can someone tell me there exprinces with having a rooted nexus 7 and what the advantages are besides root apps and the such.
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In all honesty I have had my nexus for a couple of months now and I find no need to root it. It gets updated with the latest firmware and I notice little to no glitches or mistakes with the stock build. If I were to root it them I'd only do it so I can over clock.
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I also think about rooting mine. My only reason is Adaway.
Heard about unrooting/unlocking in case of waranty. So whats holding me?
I'm just satisfied with my N7. I also own a TF-201. Stock it was horrible laggy. Tried some custom-roms and it felt like a new, faster device.
My stock/unrooted N7 is even better. Atm I don't really care about it...however, someday I'm gonna root it and try multiboot/ubuntu and so on.
So it's up to you. But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?
I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
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The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
And as ixemerix said above, "But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?".
You should therefore consider the advantage of rooting against your warranty. If you ever need it repaired (and you're still able to flash the device), just "unroot" it, lock the bootloader to remove the "unlock"-icon (you'll get that icon when rooted).
Some advantages, in a break-down-module :
Better overall performance
Underclock/Overclock (I do overclocked mine but some might for games, I presume)
Greatly increase the battery life, especially standby time
Hacking and modding (such as filming in 720p, adding performance tweaks e.g. in initd and buildprop, themes etc.)
Root it because its a nexus device
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QNBT said:
The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
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You can always unroot and relock the bootloader.
marsyeti said:
I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
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You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.
I think ROOTING is always a good idea... it confers unfettered access to the O/S, and provides considerable benefits... such as, for example --
-- Disabling SCREEN DIMMER/PRISM (eradicates screen flicker).
-- Allows the running of the app LagFix (eradicates lag).
-- Allows the running of the app AdAway (eradicates unwanted advertisments).
You can also run many more diagnostic commands in Terminal Emulater, than otherwise... and several fixes also (either directly, or automated, using ScriptManager).
And finally, you can directly access /system with a ROOT capable file manager like X-Plore, and inspect all kinds of interesting stuff (...and maybe even modify some stuff... if you're feeling brave - it's not without risk!!!!).
All of which confers a fundamentally better understanding of what your Nexus 7 is up to!
If you want to understand Android, as well as to use it, to it's fullest potential - you need ROOT.
Personally, I couldn't envisage using any Android box, today, without ROOT.
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ON THE ADAWAY ISSUE...
AdAway and other Advert blocking apps were recently 'pulled' from Google Play Store as being in “Violation of section 4.4 of the Developer Distribution Agreement."... (a ridiculous decision, IMHO, but not entirely unexpected.).
See here for more details...
http://f-droid.org/forums/topic/adaway-and-other-ad-blocker-removed-from-google-play
http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/13/go...or-violating-developer-distribution-agreement
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But you can still install AdAway from the F-Droid repository, using the sideloaded app, available here http://f-droid.org... it provides a FULLY OPEN SOURCE alternative to PlayStore, in which you can install the latest version of AdaWay, and sundry other apps.
You will of course, need ROOT to run AdaWay.
...and runs great on my Nexus 7...
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Rgrds,
Ged.
I want 5cents everytime someone tell me rooting void warranty, ESPECIALLY on a Nexus device.
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And if I get a hardware-defect, unable to unroot? Will they still repair it under waranty?
I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.
Root it! Loads of advantages and if you do it probably then it is completely safe.
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ucf15 said:
You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.
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Thanks so much for that suggestion about f droid. I don't know how I wasn't aware of that, but it's a nice find since ad blocking apps have been removed from the Play Store.
I always root everything i have...i suggest you do the same ....you have access to a lot of stuff...and the variety of roms and kernelsyou can flash
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Westervoort said:
I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.
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Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?
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Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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I don't need hundred threads just one good thread. Probably for you it's easier to lecture than help.
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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Since English is not my mother tongue I can't handle hundred threads.
I will appreciate if you can recommend a good one.
I have read some but couldn't understand how to do it.
I have rooted 3 Samsung devices very easy (s1 s2 note2) but the nexus is different
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I'm also in the boat of having been unrooted for months.. BUT... I finally decided I needed some ad-blocking.
SOOOO... my one remaining question is how far the rooting path can I go and still be able to get OTA updates? (other than having root, I am happy enough with stock).
- can I get OTA if I just root ? (I think the answer is yes, but I may need to install rootkeeper before I OTA)
- can I get OTA if I also install custom recovery (I think the answer is no)
thanks!
If i root my nexus will my apps still work? Or does rooting disable them?
Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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Will someone please help me answer my question?!?!?!
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Hey. I am relatively new to the nexus 7 atmosphere, but have plenty of experience with the original kindle fire, and Android workings. My question is do I want TWRP or do I want CWM as a recovery. On my kf I had TWRP because I don't like the look of CWM, so I was wondering which I should do for the N7. It appears that some ROMs are built specifically for one or the other, so I was wondering which is a more popular/better choice.
Also, as a side note, I see lots of posts on kernels. I never had to deal with this on the kf, so can someone give me the lowdown on what a kernel does for a ROM?
Thank you in advance.
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i am using twrp recovery at the moment on N7 altho i hav used the cm recovery on my older phone...both worked fine for me....also i have never come across any Rom specifically requesting any recovery...altho i have heard that the new kitkat roms are working on twrp ryt nw...
about the kernel..think of it as the conduit between your hardware and your software...put simply it helps your software (android) to interact with your hardware (n7) to give the output.
First time Android user. I jailbroke several iphones in the past but just learning about rooting. I just did the towelroot, now what????
What is cyanogenmod? Do I need it?
Thanks for everyone who helps out!
Download rom manager from play store and use it to flash a custom recovery.. It should be simple
After that you can flash cyanogenmod which is a ROM that changes your phones interface to almost stock android with some added features
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killyass said:
Download rom manager from play store and use it to flash a custom recovery.. It should be simple
After that you can flash cyanogenmod which is a ROM that changes your phones interface to almost stock android with some added features
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Thanks for the quick reply!!! I downloaded that and the first thing was a recovery setup. It said I needed to install clockworkmod Recovery. I attempted to do that but it said my phone is not supported..
Welcome! What phone do you have?
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killyass said:
Welcome! What phone do you have?
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Galaxy s5 on ATT
scholls22 said:
Galaxy s5 on ATT
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oh right cwm doesn't support S5 yet. anyway there's another recovery other than cwm you can use which is twrp.. download goomanager from playstore and use it the same way to install twrp
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As far as I know the ATT S5 has a locked boot loader and hence cannot use custom recoveries or ROMs. For now you are stuck with the ROM you have. You are able to modify your ROM now though.
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First time Android user. I jailbroke several iphones in the past but just learning about rooting. I just did the towelroot, now what????
What is cyanogenmod? Do I need it?
Thanks for everyone who helps out!
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Two things you should consider..
First of all, if you install a custom kernel/recovery, it will void your warranty (this is called as tripping the KNOX flag). Currently, this is something that you cannot fix by yourself and if your phone breaks Samsung may or may not fix it. But that doesn't actually matter since your phone is on ATT and that one is bootloader locked anyway (which means that currently you cannot flash that recovery anyway).
Second thing is that currently CM11 is pretty broken and some features like GPS and Camera aren't working. It will take some time before people manage to iron out all the bugs and even then it might not be perfect.
My advice is that you should first try to get familiar with the phone and then start thinking about modifying it since you aren't used to Android phones. While rooting might give you some functionality you normally wouldn't have, it's not really something that you'll absolutely need. Even out of the box Android is still way more capable and customizable than iOS and most of that stuff doesn't need rooting.