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Question for you guys,
I never noticed until my girlfriend tried to call me. I was streaming videos on youtube on my touch from Telus mobility and my line was just ringing, not going to my phone. Is there anyone that knows how to enable this? I tried looking online but codes for other phones like the apache dont work.
Thanks,
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I was trying it out on my Bell HTC touch and it works fine (was on IE browsing and called my cell and it came through)
How exactly are you viewing the YT videos? Could be the application your using.
Im using TCPMP and flash media bundle. Found it on PPCGeeks
I don't think that the CDMA Touch can handle concurrent voice & data radios.
Meaning - it is either one or the other.
If you are browsing the internet, and a call comes through, it will drop the data radio and enable voice. Your example of the browsing and a call coming through is an example of this.
Try talking on the phone and then surfing to a new site in PIE. You can't.
Dim-Ize said:
I don't think that the CDMA Touch can handle concurrent voice & data radios.
Meaning - it is either one or the other.
If you are browsing the internet, and a call comes through, it will drop the data radio and enable voice. Your example of the browsing and a call coming through is an example of this.
Try talking on the phone and then surfing to a new site in PIE. You can't.
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100% true, it can do 1 or the other not both
definetly not true...my bell htc touch works while surfing the net, it just switches from the EVDO network to the 1X, and it doesnt just keep ringing...so im not sure about sprint but the bell service allows for them to b working at the same time...
good luck
Dim-Ize said:
I don't think that the CDMA Touch can handle concurrent voice & data radios.
Meaning - it is either one or the other.
If you are browsing the internet, and a call comes through, it will drop the data radio and enable voice. Your example of the browsing and a call coming through is an example of this.
Try talking on the phone and then surfing to a new site in PIE. You can't.
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NOT TRUE AT ALL! I confirmed (as you can see in my post above) that it receives calls even if your in between a data session.
I know on regular 1x phones they are not able to do this but this is a feature of EV-DO where it allows a phone call to come in even while surfing or using data.
To the OP, are you in 1x data mode or ev-do?
K so ive been testing it, while surfing and actually going through links and receiving a call they dont go through as well as streaming. But if Im on a page and not doing anything but reading whats on the page the call comes through. And I am on Ev-DO
From what I understand, if and when Sprint/Bell/Telus upgrades the rom to support EVDO Rev.A, then you can have voice and data concurrently. I find when I am surfing, it really depends on the timing of the call on whether it rings or not. If you are actively downloading data (streaming, accessing a page), then the phone will not ring. If you are just reading/viewing a page after it has fully downloaded, then your phone will ring.
Hi Guys,
I got the Telus HTC Touch about a week ago, and I went through the same thing. I called Telus's tech support as well as HTC's, I kept getting the run around; Telus was telling me it's an HTC issue, and HTC telling me it's Telus's issue, until I finally spoke to an admin in Telus' tech dept and he told me it's a know issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
The only time this happens is when the data connection is "active" i.e. it's downloading something, so if you are streaming, the call will never go through to the phone, it will go the voice mail and your won't get a missed call notice on the phone. If browsing the net, and IE has finished loading the page, the data connection is "idle" and the call will go through.
I have read on a forum that there is a way to fix this by accessing the Data Programming screen using ##8323# and chaging the priority to voice from the default data priority, but I was not ableto access that with my phone.
I am still hoping to find a hack for this; for now I call-forward my HTC to my Blackberry when I know I will be using the internet heavily so I won't miss any calls.
TRY ##DDTM# thats how its done on my sprint touch
ludester said:
NOT TRUE AT ALL! I confirmed (as you can see in my post above) that it receives calls even if your in between a data session.
I know on regular 1x phones they are not able to do this but this is a feature of EV-DO where it allows a phone call to come in even while surfing or using data.
To the OP, are you in 1x data mode or ev-do?
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Ludester - can you try this again?
I know that if you are surfing and a call comes through - you can get the call and answer it. That's what I said in my reply. That's because the phone drops the data connection and enteres the voice connection. If you jump back to PIE - then your previous cached page pops up.
But, try calling your handset from your home phone. Answer it. Leave the line open. (you may want to stand a few feet away from your landline to avoid feeback).
Now, while you have an active voice connectoin from home phone to cell phone, Open PIE and try and start browsing to a new page not cached.
Does it give you a message?
My understanding is that Rev0 doesnt do simultaneous voice and data. Actually i dont think RevA will either, although capable by technology, Sprint's implimentation wont allow it. Only way to get voice and data simultaneous right now is use HSDPA on GSM it does both at the same time currently.
I would love to have concurrent voice and data. I just don't think Rev0 has that feature and don't believ ewe will see Sprint's implementation of this feature through the RevA update either. I surely hope to be proven wrong on this - because that is indeed a desired state for me.
just yesterday i tried going to the other way... while on a call, i tried to access live search to map an address. the call was disconnected.
today i tried to launch internet explorer while on a call and i get a message to 'end the current call... blah,blah'
I'm on Bell and I was streaming music to my phone today and a call rang through no problem.
Gochris said:
I'm on Bell and I was streaming music to my phone today and a call rang through no problem.
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Same here on Bell.
I was streaming music on EVDO network. When I called my Touch, it started to ring. At that moment music streaming stopped and Touch switched to 1X network. When I ended this conversation, Touch switched back to EVDO and music streaming resumed automatically.
Cheers,
Romek
XmentalX said:
TRY ##DDTM# thats how its done on my sprint touch
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For voice as priority should it be enabled or disabled? Sprint Touch.
i believe that all issues with cellphone internet blocking or being disabled when one recieve a call is purely an issue
with old and poor quality equipment of the cellphone operator in the area
Gitano said:
Hi Guys,
I got the Telus HTC Touch about a week ago, and I went through the same thing. I called Telus's tech support as well as HTC's, I kept getting the run around; Telus was telling me it's an HTC issue, and HTC telling me it's Telus's issue, until I finally spoke to an admin in Telus' tech dept and he told me it's a know issue that will not be fixed anytime soon.
The only time this happens is when the data connection is "active" i.e. it's downloading something, so if you are streaming, the call will never go through to the phone, it will go the voice mail and your won't get a missed call notice on the phone. If browsing the net, and IE has finished loading the page, the data connection is "idle" and the call will go through.
I have read on a forum that there is a way to fix this by accessing the Data Programming screen using ##8323# and chaging the priority to voice from the default data priority, but I was not ableto access that with my phone.
I am still hoping to find a hack for this; for now I call-forward my HTC to my Blackberry when I know I will be using the internet heavily so I won't miss any calls.
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You have to call, on a telus touch, ##778 and you gotta have your MSL code to edit things... But I haven't found anywhere that priority you're talking about...
I thought EVDO Rev 0 (like the one Telus is using for now) cannot handle data and voice connection at the same time... It is different for EVDO Rev.A, I've seen that on wiki I think
I had this problem until I realized I had changed my settings to "Force HDR" mode which only took advantage of EVDO.
I changed it back to Automatic switching (at the expense of battery life, however) and tested it out by running Sprint TV and having another phone call and it worked.
I checked the ##DDTM# and it was already disabled.
I've had the same issues... including the girlfriend being pissed off because her calls always went to VM. The problem is related to what network you're using.
The link below explains in details what networks allow both data and voice at the same time:
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0802013/
This should be all you guys need.
-YACO
So I am using my N1 on att so therefor it only works on EDGE. The problem is that whenever I have an active data session open, my phone does not ring and calls just go to vmail. Is there any way to set the phone to take the call and suspend the data connection?
No one has an answer? Not even through rooting the phone can I get it to accept calls over data...
i haven't used my N1 on the ATT network, but i've never head of data overriding voice. on any network. Voice should kick your data connection. I wonder if you have an issue with an APN setting.
I'm looking for the same,
IM in the Netherlands on vodafone. 3g works fine, but can't call and use internet on the same time.
Dont you need to be on at least 3g to have voice and data at the same time?
this has always been my experience on quite a few phones I have had when in an EDGE only area and tethering on O2 in the UK, phone does not ring.
On 3G it does, in fact last night while on a conference call on speakerphone I decided to run the speed test app to see how much a voice connection impacted data and I got 300-400kbps and I normally get 1-2Mbps, only ran it once and forgot to run it again after the call has ended, so it could just be local conditions....
You are correct that you cannot have voice and data working at the same time unless you have 3g (HSDPA). If you only have and EDGE connection, you can use data or voice, not at the same time though.
So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice
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So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice
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Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...
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Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...
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I understand what you are saying and I am the same way. But being such a heavy user I do often get calls when I am on the web. So it is crap that this device is really not a fully functioning phone on EDGE.
Asking your phone to put voice over data as priority on edge is like asking your phone company to put your mom's phone number over others and having her call kick someone else's call off while you are talking.
This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.
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This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.
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That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.
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That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.
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You are mistaken. I've had at least 10 phones that ran edge for data and none of them could interrupt data for voice. You are probably using more data intensive Apps or webpages compared to the blackberry, so its more likely you are missing calls.
Go use the blackberry to download a 7 MB file and see if you can call it.
where i live i'm just outside the 3G areas
my past phones have been HTC and i just end up with a voicemail notification when someone calls and my phones were ALWAYS on data, people used to get pissed thinking i was avoiding them.
google voice fixes this, i can just switch to my notification, listen to voicemail or if i'm lucky read the transcription (usually doesnt match though ) without having to effect what i was doing.
On my winmo phones, if i tried to do this, i would sometimes go back to my browser to find it decided to close while i was on the call to listen to my voicemail and then i would lose what i was doing and have to start all over anyways. so this is just another reason i love the nexus one and google voice, you say useless data>voice, i say a fix to my problem. i love you n1! lol
I can not speak to blackberry phones but this behavior has been the norm for all of my smartphones, to include the G1. If I make heavy use of Edge in a non 3g area then phone calls would not get through. It is annoying but not a problem specific to the N1.
Went to a sprint store (appointment) and they told me that when I am connected via wifi at home, it will not be able to receive text notification and will not be able to see my picture (I have the download button showing but will not open the picture when I click on it). So this means, that when I have wifi connection at home, that disables the 3G connection that I have thus not seeing the Sprint's server where the text are delivered. Aren't the text messages via the 3G or 4G connectivity on the phone. So my wifi connection will not allow the 3G connection on the phone. I tested sending a picture message from my Epic to my Tilt2 (AT&T) windows phone with the same wifi connection and I get the notification and I have to click on the icon to display the picture with no problem. But the epic as I have explained earlier, will give me no notification, it gives me a download button when I open up the text message - but will not do anything at all - not opening the picture. when I disable my wifi - no problem
I need to test this, because if it's true thats bull****, I have Wifi at home on all the time. Heck if Sprint is going to start capping the unlimited plans, why force us to use 3G at all times when there's wifi available? testing this...
yea you're correct, it shows the button if you go into the messages, but it wont notify or let you download it, it says failed. Thats garbage.
Thanks Six-Duece and so I am not the only one. Somehow, if you are connected via wifi, the 3G or even 4G (data connection) is somehow disabled.
Thanks once again.. I am going to return my phone since I am still within the 30-days.
and I notieced even here in Vegas that 4G connection is so flaky and always reverts back to 3G and I pay $10 for something that is not used.
Maybe one day, when 4G connectivitiy is much more stable, then the $120/yr would be worth it. $120 is not joke nowadays
This is a problem for me also. People have told me it has something to do with sprint/android users, which I dont see how thats the case when I have been with sprint for over 3 years now and this is the only phone that has happened to me on.
I have owned the HTC EVO, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, and Palm Pre on Sprint's network and non had made me turn wifi off in order to recieve pictures. (HTC EVO = Android device)..
Also it seems to let me SEND pictures with wifi on just not RECIEVE.. It sucks & hope someone will figure out a way to get by this non-sense.
yea this could be a deal breaker for me, I think I will weigh my options and decide if I want to keep hanging on to this or say screw it. It bothers me because it makes no sense.
Typically the way things works is like this, calls and text go over the voice network (or on 1x), so you can be disconnected from 3G and still send and receive plain sms.
Now MMS are sent and received (downloaded) over the data network, either 1xrtt or 3G EVDO. Whether you're on wifi or not shouldn't matter as long as you're connected to the cell network.
The issue with the Epic seems to be that if you're connected to wifi it seems to disconnect from the data network (either to save battery or for some other reason INSTEAD OF KEEPING A DORMANT CONNECTION TO THE DATA NETWORK) and as such MMS can't be downloaded or fail to.
Now I don't receive a lot of MMS so I've never really been affected by this enough to annoy me but I can say that other Sprint phones I've had with wifi do receive MMS even on wifi because I assume they keep a dormant connection to the 3G network.
Either way, for heavy MMS folks who conncet to wifi a lot this must be annoying.
Just one more bug we need to alert Samsung and Sprint to for a furure fix. It might be a bug or the phone was just designed that way for some reason.
i will have to try that this is bs
if they wont do anything i may have to get an evo instead but i wish not to have to
The reason I brought this up, is because I connect wifi most of the time (at work and at home), and family sends a lot of picture messages. So this is a big issue for me especially since you don't receive any notification.
Maybe if they fix this issue then I might go back, since I am still in the 30-day return guarantee. I will be monitoring this thread.
Thanks for all for testing and confirming my problem.
Hi,
Has anybody of you who had the same problem as I did, has this issue been addressed and fixed now..
Thank you for taking the time to respond back
I just noticed that my mms pictures are now downloading when on wifi. Maybe Sprint quietly fixed this bug? Anyone else notice the change?
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This is a problem for me also. People have told me it has something to do with sprint/android users, which I dont see how thats the case when I have been with sprint for over 3 years now and this is the only phone that has happened to me on.
I have owned the HTC EVO, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, and Palm Pre on Sprint's network and non had made me turn wifi off in order to recieve pictures. (HTC EVO = Android device)..
Also it seems to let me SEND pictures with wifi on just not RECIEVE.. It sucks & hope someone will figure out a way to get by this non-sense.
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It was a problem with the hero. Its not exclusive to theepic. Apparently it has something to do with adroid
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No problems here. Just tested on my epic, wifes Evo, and my old Hero. Everythings working fine over wifi regarding mms. I wilk say tho that the Hero and Evo received the mms withing a minute, while my Epic didnt for about 8 minutes.
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I'm kinda glad T_Mobile finally took the step to made it official [sort of]
The idea is that T-mobile will introduce UMA-Wifi calling app which can be installed on the phone and will allow users to switch.
This is great news for people who live under low reception area and can use their homo wifi routers to make calls at no extra cost!
P.S. The second picture in the post looks like the G2 rom... so we're good fellas!
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/is-i...y-coming-to-the-android-platform-on-t-mobile/
Its not true uma though. Its more like skype. Still good news for novice android users and those with poor home reception.
Prefacing this with I have no idea how UMA really works and this may be something impossible to do, but if there's the capability to make regular calls over wifi, would it be possible to combine that with google voice and somehow not use your minutes in some way or use google voice like skype but using your own handset?
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Prefacing this with I have no idea how UMA really works and this may be something impossible to do, but if there's the capability to make regular calls over wifi, would it be possible to combine that with google voice and somehow not use your minutes in some way or use google voice like skype but using your own handset?
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That CAN be done already, as long as its over a data line (ie, wifi, 3g, HSPA+)
I believe skype is already capable of placing calls over wifi, 3G. [Correct me if i'm wrong]
But you can also use stand alone SIP Apps like 3CX or NetDial and configure them to you VOIP provider settings and make calls...
www.voipbuster.com is a really good, FREE/CHEAP VOIP provider
yes you can but in general the connection is not very good. Just my experience though
One of the difficulties in making a UMTS/wifi switchover is the lag time between the loss of one and gaining the other. Typically, going from UMTS --> wifi will work OK since it will typically ensure that the wifi is good before actually disconnecting the UMTS. The other way though, depends on the wifi signal FAILING, and then establishing the UMTS connection as a fallback.
If the network switch overlap could be extended in both directions, especially to start to initiate UMTS connection BEFORE the wifi signal vanishes (i.e., when the signal strength drops to 1-bar), then it would be fairly trivial to set up a PBX and SIP client to automatically follow the network, including seamless switchovers.
The days of regular phone service are already numbered. All you really need on your phone is a DATA plan -- SIP service tends to be less expensive and just as robust as any other kind of voice service. And it certainly kills everything else in terms of FLEXIBILITY.
So I just picked up a couple of WM phones HTC743 and an AT&T Tilt 2.
I've been using one of the early windows smartphones for a number of years just for the the contact manager because it uses activesynch nicely with Outlook. Too damn small for any network access though.
I'm not terribly interested in a big data plan for a lot of internet access. I might pickup my email and surf a bit while I'm traveling though. I had wanted to use the wifi for that.
Th HTC s743 gave AT&T a bit of a startle because the didn't know what it was.
It's functioning but even though I have Data Conn. turned off it still manages to automatically turn on once in a while. I see daily very low volume charges even though everything says I'm accessing via WIFI.
I just plugged the simm into the Tilt 2 and though I haven't called AT&T as yet about this phone it did allow calls in and out but I can't seem to get the internet connection working even though wifi shows as being connected. It takes a long time for it to connect compared with the S743.
So ... is there a way to use either of these phones via wifi only?
Just turning off the Data Conn. on the s743 doesn't seem to completely work. The pre loaded GPS app appears to automatically turn Data Conn. back on. I know it does this if wifi & Data Conn. are both turned off.
A neat little AT&T billing trick?
From what I have read on here I think I maybe screwed on the TILT 2.
It also appears that until I register the Tilt 2 with AT&T my WIFI internet surfing just isn't going to work or do I have something else wrong?
I just have Data off, and no Data plan, but I'm using a android phone. I'm using the HTC Aria.
I was able to fix the S743 by just deleting the "APN"? in the configuration menu. I can always reload it quickly from AT&T if need be. But that phone also let's me pick between AT&T or Tmobile so I think it's more flexible to begin with. It's WM6.1 whereas the AT&T Tilt 2 is WM6.5 and there's no such configuration page where you can download the network configuration from AT&T. I've looked but maybe I missed something?
I also can't get this phone to work on WIFI either yet.
If you can, just change a character in the apn. This will stop it connecting, and it will let you easily switch it back on by changing it back if need be