Related
Anyone seen where to buy extra power adapters? Be nice to have one with a longer cable. Stock one is very short.
Wish it was USB charged....
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/acer-iconia-tab-a500-forum/13840-chargers.html
Found another forum discussing the lame power cable.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
I couldn't stand it anymore so I snipped my wire and added another 4 ft.
I have been trying to get an additional PSU and car charger for my Acer. Went to Frys, tried almost EVERYTHING they have on those Universal PSU and NONE of them work in the pin connector for the Acer. What gives!
Try to get a free tip for my Energizer Xpal and also result in zero search. Any fellows have a pointer to where in getting the right tip? Thx
So far the ONLY one that I have found that works is the Enercell 12 / 1.5 with the 'G' tip, but it's like $30 at RadioShack. The tip itself is a little long and if it wiggles it will stop/start charging off and on.
I'm working with a few people to find some at decent price for us.
anyone measured the dimensions of the charging tip at all? If worse comes to worse we could always buy a generic 12v 1.5a AC adapter from ebay and buy the tip separately to solder on.
The USB port wont be able to charge the tablet fast enough and the battery will still drain. I've found that this happens on my Xperia X10 mobile phone. I have to disable 3G data in order get it to start charging.
julz said:
anyone measured the dimensions of the charging tip at all? If worse comes to worse we could always buy a generic 12v 1.5a AC adapter from ebay and buy the tip separately to solder on.
The USB port wont be able to charge the tablet fast enough and the battery will still drain. I've found that this happens on my Xperia X10 mobile phone. I have to disable 3G data in order get it to start charging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 'g' tip for the Encercell is 1.1mm x 3.0mm
Hope that helps
thanks for hte dimensions... unfortunately they don't sell that brand over here in Australia. I'm also reluctant to pay ~$30 for a charger.
I wonder if one of the round tips on this USB charger would fit:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/10-in-1-usb-powered-charging-cable-for-ipod-psp-cell-phones-34674
It may still charge if the device is switched off completely.
atomicwedgie said:
I couldn't stand it anymore so I snipped my wire and added another 4 ft.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah nice one, I was thinking of doing the very same thing as it should not cause any problems.
So did it go ok, what did you use for the extra wire?
________________________________________________________________________
ZTE Blade - Rooted OC 729mh - CM7 RC2 V/nice
Advent Vega - Rooted OC 1.4gh - Corvous5 rom gorgeous smooth and qqqick
Iconia A500 - Rooted - HComb Sweet
I can confirm the Radio Shack Enercell (12vdc, 1.5a) with the 'G' tip works. Picked one up today for $29 (get the tip for free) and its currently charging the Acer as I type this.
Tip: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3807935
Plug: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3807944&numProdsPerPage=60
MJ-12 said:
Yeah nice one, I was thinking of doing the very same thing as it should not cause any problems.
So did it go ok, what did you use for the extra wire?
)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No charging difference at all except I don't have to have my face mashed up against the wall while it charges.
I used a piece of wire from an old 1amp charger I had. The extra piece doesn't even get slighty warm. 1.5 amps isn't all that much juice. I did solder the connetions too.
huh and it is only $10 for a new one.
http://us-store.acer.com/product.aspx?pn=LC.ADT0A.024
atomicwedgie said:
huh and it is only $10 for a new one.
http://us-store.acer.com/product.aspx?pn=LC.ADT0A.024
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even at $10 it is grossly overpriced
Acer needs to offer a PS with a six foot cable that is not crazy thin like the stock PS.
rushless said:
Even at $10 it is grossly overpriced
Acer needs to offer a PS with a six foot cable that is not crazy thin like the stock PS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True story
Did a quick google on my powersupply PSA18R-120P.
Came up with http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/284284/PHIHONG/PSA18R-120P.html
or
http://www.phihongusa.com/html/pr_psa18r-120p.html
"The PSA18R-120P is priced at $10.23 per unit at OEM quantities"
Assuming they bought off the shelf:
DC Output Connector
2.1x5.5mm Center Positive Standard
For us australians: Going to see if I can visit Jaycar and will report back in with what I find.
Wal-Mart Car Charger
The Wal-Mart Car charger for portable DVD players works perfect.
a quick look at the wall power supply says that it it needs 12V at 1.5 amps with center of tip positive.
The Wal-Mart car charger puts out 2000ma (2amps), and has a tip that works.. It works PERFECT and it only costs 15 bux.
usb charging is out.. usb is only 5V at 500 ma (.5 amp).. not sure why everybody complains about wanting USB to charge their tablet. Even if they did add it, it would take so terribly long to charge it, you would get mad. With the proper charger and voltage, it only takes about 2-3 hours to fully charge the thing...
Good luck!
mikldom said:
The Wal-Mart Car charger for portable DVD players works perfect.
a quick look at the wall power supply says that it it needs 12V at 1.5 amps with center of tip positive.
The Wal-Mart car charger puts out 2000ma (2amps), and has a tip that works.. It works PERFECT and it only costs 15 bux.
usb charging is out.. usb is only 5V at 500 ma (.5 amp).. not sure why everybody complains about wanting USB to charge their tablet. Even if they did add it, it would take so terribly long to charge it, you would get mad. With the proper charger and voltage, it only takes about 2-3 hours to fully charge the thing...
Good luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This has been a topic of discussions for a LONG time hopefully you'll know.... Couldn't there be a potential issue with charging at 2 amps when it calls for 1.5?? I was told you could use less but not ore without causing damage to the battery?
I have a 'demo' on the way from overseas to try that I should get Wednesday. I will let you know ASAP.
This is a big issue with me as I prefer a charger at home and the office and I'd like something that I can charge on my desk 'without my face mashed up against the wall' (as atomicwedgie so perfectly put it)
it2steve said:
This has been a topic of discussions for a LONG time hopefully you'll know.... Couldn't there be a potential issue with charging at 2 amps when it calls for 1.5?? I was told you could use less but not ore without causing damage to the battery?
I have a 'demo' on the way from overseas to try that I should get Wednesday. I will let you know ASAP.
This is a big issue with me as I prefer a charger at home and the office and I'd like something that I can charge on my desk 'without my face mashed up against the wall' (as atomicwedgie so perfectly put it)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Amp rating on wall chargers is what the charger is CAPABLE of outputting, not what it is always outputting. As long as there is current limiting built into the charging circuit (which is a must), then the charging circuit in the A500 won't pull any more amperage than it needs to charge. Don't worry about buying a higher amperage charger than is needed, but do worry about buying one that is lower as it can overload the charger.
silic0re said:
The Amp rating on wall chargers is what the charger is CAPABLE of outputting, not what it is always outputting. As long as there is current limiting built into the charging circuit (which is a must), then the charging circuit in the A500 won't pull any more amperage than it needs to charge. Don't worry about buying a higher amperage charger than is needed, but do worry about buying one that is lower as it can overload the charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely correct.
silic0re said:
The Amp rating on wall chargers is what the charger is CAPABLE of outputting, not what it is always outputting. As long as there is current limiting built into the charging circuit (which is a must), then the charging circuit in the A500 won't pull any more amperage than it needs to charge. Don't worry about buying a higher amperage charger than is needed, but do worry about buying one that is lower as it can overload the charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes... pulling too much amperage is a very bad thing.
Anyone else surprised at how thick the Sync - charge cable is compared to the GT-N8000 series cable.
Does anyone know where to get a spare just like it except in black at a reasonable price?
.
kkretch said:
Anyone else surprised at how thick the Sync - charge cable is compared to the GT-N8000 series cable.
Does anyone know where to get a spare just like it except in black at a reasonable price?
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really. The cable for my S4 is pretty much exactly the same. The charger for my S4 has the highest current output of any of my chargers and I put the size of the cable down to a need for low resistance so the tablet can benefit fully from the high current.
i did a big ole test with various chargers and cables with different devices and found this cable:http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5459&seq=1&format=2 to be just as good as the stock cable on the stock charger according to kill-a-watt. the s4 and gnote 8 cable only pulled 10W while the monoprice and gn 10.1 2014 pulled 11W.
madsquabbles said:
i did a big ole test with various chargers and cables with different devices and found this cable:http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5459&seq=1&format=2 to be just as good as the stock cable on the stock charger according to kill-a-watt. the s4 and gnote 8 cable only pulled 10W while the monoprice and gn 10.1 2014 pulled 11W.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Odd that you had any kind of real world success with those cables. I have used Monoprice cables for years and love them, but I have several of those same cables in lengths from 3-15 feet and every one of them charges at half the rate or less of the stock cable. I normally get >1000 mAmp with the stock charger and cable, but only get ~500-750 mAmp with stock charger and any of my Monoprice cables I wish they charged at the same mAmp rate b/c I like having a longer charging cable. Has anyone else had this issue or found a 6 to 10 foot cable that still charges at the same mAmp rate of the stock cable?
If you double the length of a cable, you double its resistance. It's not possible for a longer cable to pass as much current unless it is proportionally thicker. The stock cable is both short and thick; that is why it works so well.
mollybc said:
Odd that you had any kind of real world success with those cables. I have used Monoprice cables for years and love them, but I have several of those same cables in lengths from 3-15 feet and every one of them charges at half the rate or less of the stock cable. I normally get >1000 mAmp with the stock charger and cable, but only get ~500-750 mAmp with stock charger and any of my Monoprice cables I wish they charged at the same mAmp rate b/c I like having a longer charging cable. Has anyone else had this issue or found a 6 to 10 foot cable that still charges at the same mAmp rate of the stock cable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was surprised myself. I have a lot of the six feet monoprice (or 5) and none of those pulled as much wattage. I was actually trying to see which workedmwith my t100 and found that the t100 3 footer and gn101 2014 and the monoprice 10footer were the only ones that pulled 11 watts. the 5 pulled only 8watts.
if I have time tomorrow I'll redo all my tests with various chargers and devices and list the killawatt results. I dont know how much current actually gets to the device, only whats being pulled from the wall. the charge percent per hour reported by bmw pro seems to show they equal though from a small sample.
Is it bad to use the note charger to charge my s3?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
johnny tsunami said:
Is it bad to use the note charger to charge my s3?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not at all. Any charger should work; the only difference between chargers is their maximum current output but the device determines what current it draws so there isn't any risk in using a charger with a higher maximum current than the supplied charger.
i was corrected when i stated the same. the output of the gn10.1 charger is 5.3v while most others are 5v. it may not be enough difference to cause any harm, but be aware that there may be a chance of damage over time. the voltage will be constant, but the amperage is what is controlled by what the phone requests.
that said, i haven't had any problems with my s4, t100, gn8 or gn2 yet.
madsquabbles said:
I was surprised myself. I have a lot of the six feet monoprice (or 5) and none of those pulled as much wattage. I was actually trying to see which workedmwith my t100 and found that the t100 3 footer and gn101 2014 and the monoprice 10footer were the only ones that pulled 11 watts. the 5 pulled only 8watts.
if I have time tomorrow I'll redo all my tests with various chargers and devices and list the killawatt results. I dont know how much current actually gets to the device, only whats being pulled from the wall. the charge percent per hour reported by bmw pro seems to show they equal though from a small sample.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any results from the monoprice cables? I need a few new cables as half of mine decided to go bad all at once
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
ChrisNee1988 said:
Any results from the monoprice cables? I need a few new cables as half of mine decided to go bad all at once
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my tests would actually be inconclusive since the killawatt can only judge the amount of current that the charger is delivering and not the final amount that the device actually gets.
from a short test last night i found the actual amperage that the monoprice 10' ferrite core cable is arounf 1700mAh where the 3' stock is 1900mAh.
those results are from battery monitor widget pro. i'd consider it a good trade off for getting 7 extra feet. the 10' is only a few dimes more than the cheap 5' cables. for some reason the 5' wouldn't coax the charger to pull as much from the outlet as the 10' did.
madsquabbles said:
i was corrected when i stated the same. the output of the gn10.1 charger is 5.3v while most others are 5v. it may not be enough difference to cause any harm, but be aware that there may be a chance of damage over time. the voltage will be constant, but the amperage is what is controlled by what the phone requests.
that said, i haven't had any problems with my s4, t100, gn8 or gn2 yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a fair point but I don't actually thinks it's an issue.
The USB 2.0 standard requires that the voltage be 5.0V ± 0.25V so the maximum voltage (which any USB compliant device should be able to cope with) is 5.25V. The Note charger is rated for the output at the charger not the cable since the cable is not an integral part of the unit. There will be a small voltage drop caused by the cable so the actual output at the phone will be within spec and therefore safe.
I just got a new OnePlus One over the holidays. I've noticed that periodically it was getting very hot when I was charging it, both when using a car and wall charger and multiple different cables. On Saturday night I left it on the charger overnight and in the morning the phone was melted around the charger cable! Check out the pics below.
Only thing worse is that OnePlus says that it's likely because I was using a 3rd party charging cable (from my Samsung Galaxy S3) so they won't provide a refund or replace it. But they will let me pay $350 for a new mother board. So I'm out $400 and a brand new phone.
Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
geokilla said:
Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I just got it. Didn't root or anything. When it got hot I rebooted the phone .. what is strange is that it didn't seem to always overheat. But it happened more than once on different chargers and cables.
I've been using a Samsung charger and cable that came from a galaxy s4 on so many different phones and nothing ever happened to them. Even have charged my one plus one with it. It was charging very slowly so I just used the one it came with and it charges at full speed.
Try talking with a different person and not mention using a different cable and charger. Its definitely not because of that. You deserve a new one.
Sent from my A0001
How??
abhishekv09 said:
How??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly...
abhishekv09 said:
How??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
Transmitted via Bacon
timmaaa said:
Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
Transmitted via Bacon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kinda like using a skill saw on one of those two dollar 12' household extension cords. everything gets hot.
It's really odd. The One itself uses a pretty powerful 2A charger :/
Sent from my A0001 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Hmm... did you charge your phone directly when it was still hot?
timmaaa said:
Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
Transmitted via Bacon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results). Seems like OP used the OnePlus One charger rated at 2A with a cable which was probably rated for 0.7-1A (that seems to be the standard S3 charger's output).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
sabrefresco said:
Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
Transmitted via Bacon
timmaaa said:
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
Transmitted via Bacon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
Red5 said:
Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Convenience of not carrying that same cable everywhere? OP seemed to be using chargers at home and in his car, so it's easier to have a cable for each of those chargers.
Maybe the phone is defective. I hate it when OEM'S being cheap.
C'mon One Plus. Don't be like the ****ty samsung. Make the difference
Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
freeewilly said:
Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He needs to change the fried motherboard
sabrefresco said:
I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Leaving it on charge overnight isn't good for the battery anyway, the more time a lithium battery spends at peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it degrades.
Transmitted via Bacon
WHen you don't have the official charger/cable with you, I ALWAYS tell people to charge it via a computer USB port (0.5 A) instead to be on the safe side (with whatever cable you plan to use).
And never mix/match your USB cable/charger ports.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung...shipments-for-more-quality-testing-1472647803
Sorry if you can't read it
Those damn cheap microusb to usb-c connectors and cheap large voltage chargers .. sheesh. I've had no trouble with mine but then again I have quality chargers and cables I bought for my 6P. My Note 7 doesn't even get warm when charging .. at least nothing noticeable.
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
-BoneZ- said:
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Seems to be a problem with the international models.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not that it's unapproved. It's that they are using cheap cables and chargers. We went through this crap with the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P. Cheap chargers and cables can do damage.
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
twe90kid said:
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use these with my Note 7 and Nexus 6P. Unless I just got lucky and got 6 good cables .. I use them everywhere .. work, car (Android Auto) and home .. then these are good. I highly doubt a USB-C cable that works brilliantly with the Nexus 6P would fry the Note 7. I've had mine for 12 days and when I hook the Note 7 up in my truck for AA it's charging as well and it never gets much warmer than if it were on the wireless Samsung charger.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YQFMWK6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
---------- Post added at 01:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:36 PM ----------
-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm. I don't think fast charging is the issue with this. The guy in China who reported this which later was picked up on Reddit .. his cable was just some black microusb cable with a while adapter on it and no further info. If the cable was a piece of crap and he was using a cheap wall charger .. Samsung adapter or not I think this was the cause of the boom. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Like said about .. the usb-c cable/charger subject was discussed to death about the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P (Macbook as well) .. and it's always the same thing. Don't use cheap junk. :good:
just be careful what ur using
http://www.slashgear.com/anker-recalls-refunds-usb-c-cable-over-faulty-implementation-28453688/
aergern said:
Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your phone is at 100%, then it's not charging. Therefore, it won't be warm. When the battery gets low, 30-40% and it's on fast-charge, it gets very warm. I don't know about the wireless charger, but it's warm with the cable. Either way, I disabled fast-charge and no more warmth.
Are we far away from FW update limiting charge current? I turned off fast charging due to phone getting hot, which is not healthy for batteries, especially if those are hard to replace and I charge overnight anyway, but on some occasion I could be in rush to charge and fast charging is the solution and I want fast charge as option, but if things go like that, the easiest fix for Samsung would be to eliminate fast charge for now.
All phones should get warm while fast charging. S7 Edge did the same thing, so did the nexus 6p.
I charge mine with fast charging every single time.
i use quick charge no problems here
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk
It could be they are using these cable that's being recall?
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
Some Anker USB C cable sold at Amazon last month could blow you note 7 up.
Guys please check if you have these Anker cable and return it back to manufacture.
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
If that cable delivers 20 volts designed for PC, to the phone designed for 9v max, that would double the amperage and quadruple total power drawn, I can easily see how that could burn the whole phone to crisp.
Going back to fast charge on N7, I'm sure it's well designed and the heat well within specs (it's even mentioned in manual), but the fact remains that higher operating temp of battery, the lower (slightly) life span of the battery. With battery sealed inside and rather difficult to replace I want to prolong it's life to maximum and if I charge overnight, which I do often, don't care if it even takes 6hrs. BTW if the faulty cable is the real culprit, it's a very good news and shipping of N7 should resume soon. It would be shame if such a good phone got bad reputation undeserved.
http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
The latest...
-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ian1 said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
The latest...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, it's not. It was reported on quite a few sites that Samsung sourced the battery packs locally for it's variations. So the South Korean company that made the battery packs for the South Korean release is the one that is possibly the cause of all this hoopla. The few handsets out of the millions produced that have had issues with these crap cables and chargers have been in South Korea. None of the EU/NorthAm phones have been reported to have had this happen at all. Maybe unnamed sources that aren't Samsung themselves should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe we should wait for an official statement from Samsung before running in circles and screaming the sky is falling. It's a thought.
I'm not saying it couldn't be a massive, global recall but based on the 30+ articles I've read .. most of which messaged to me by my iPhone owning friends .. this seems like a bad batch in South Korea. I had a gasket issue on my motorcycle that was part of a recall .. will I stop buying that brand because of it. No. And before you start talking about fire and explosions .. oil spewing out of a gasket onto a tire while doing 70mph ... same thing.
-BoneZ- said:
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oh yeah? turn off a key feature of the phone, and problem solved?
if the camera was faulty, would you simply not use it, and be okay with it?
the iris scanner, if it didn't work, would you just disable it?
I have a couple of spare batteries for my V20, but can't find an external battery charger that works. I've bought a couple that claim to be able to charge V20 batteries, but neither of them do.
Does anyone know of the charger that can be purchased in the UK which actually works?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/327...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
I have both of these but they shipped china (on the slow boat 30+ days)
jimjim79 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/327...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
I have both of these but they shipped china (on the slow boat 30+ days)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first one looks like one that I already have (and doesn't work). I haven't come across the 2nd one.
So have you tried them, or are you still waiting for them to be delivered?
Like I say i have them both, they both work fine. The second one charges faster than the first but I like the small form factor of the first one linked, it's very good for travel.
I'm using the LG OEM external charger in the US. It works great. It was sold only as a package including a new battery. I would be surprised if LG didn't make a version for the UK market. If they do, I would recommend it.
jimjim79 said:
Like I say i have them both, they both work fine. The second one charges faster than the first but I like the small form factor of the first one linked, it's very good for travel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm....odd that the first one doesn't work for me. There is a voltage from the pins on the charger but the neither of my batteries charges when I insert them (and I have even left them overnight).
I've ordered the 2nd one to see if it's any better.
LG did have the BCK-5200 charging kit for the V20, but it seems to be discontinued. It's certainly unavailable in the UK.
itm said:
Hmmm....odd that the first one doesn't work for me. There is a voltage from the pins on the charger but the neither of my batteries charges when I insert them (and I have even left them overnight).
I've ordered the 2nd one to see if it's any better.
LG did have the BCK-5200 charging kit for the V20, but it seems to be discontinued. It's certainly unavailable in the UK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I received this charger this morning, and left a battery charging in it for 3 hours. The LED on the charger changed from blue to pink, but the battery didn't charge at all. I checked the pins with a multitester and the charger was delivering current, but the battery charge wasn't increasing.
Any ideas??
itm said:
So I received this charger this morning, and left a battery charging in it for 3 hours. The LED on the charger changed from blue to pink, but the battery didn't charge at all. I checked the pins with a multitester and the charger was delivering current, but the battery charge wasn't increasing.
Any ideas??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Faulty batteries
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
cnjax said:
Faulty batteries
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What, all 4 of them? (I have tried charging 2 batteries in the new charger, and all 4 batteries in the other 2 chargers that I have bought and tried). None of the batteries have charged in any of the chargers.
All of them charge fine in the phone.
I've had the external battery charger from the first link for three years. Pretty much since the phone came out. It is always work for OEM and aftermarket batteries for me.
jimjim79 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/327...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53
I have both of these but they shipped china (on the slow boat 30+ days)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cnjax said:
Faulty batteries
s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kaluna00 said:
I've had the external battery charger from the first link for three years. Pretty much since the phone came out. It is always work for OEM and aftermarket batteries for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I also have that charger - it doesn't charge any of the batteries that I've tried with it (only 3 of my 4 batteries will physically fit into it, and none of them will charge).
I really can't work this out - how come these chargers work for others but not for me? Surely all 4 of my batteries can't be faulty, particularly when all 4 charge perfectly well when they are in the phone.
????
itm said:
Yes I also have that charger - it doesn't charge any of the batteries that I've tried with it (only 3 of my 4 batteries will physically fit into it, and none of them will charge).
I really can't work this out - how come these chargers work for others but not for me? Surely all 4 of my batteries can't be faulty, particularly when all 4 charge perfectly well when they are in the phone.
????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The light is blue when it is not charging. And red when it is charging. You could try to check the voltage if you have a meter. Or it might be a faulty charger. Just to guess.
kaluna00 said:
The light is blue when it is not charging. And red when it is charging. You could try to check the voltage if you have a meter. Or it might be a faulty charger. Just to guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes the light is blue on mine when I plug it in, then switches to pink when I insert a battery. I checked the voltage across the charger pins and it is 5V.
???
itm said:
Yes the light is blue on mine when I plug it in, then switches to pink when I insert a battery. I checked the voltage across the charger pins and it is 5V.
???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And its not charging your batteries?
kaluna00 said:
The light is blue when it is not charging. And red when it is charging. You could try to check the voltage if you have a meter. Or it might be a faulty charger. Just to guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kaluna00 said:
And its not charging your batteries?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct - the batteries are showing the same (or slightly lower) % charge after 2-3 hours left in the charger.
itm said:
Correct - the batteries are showing the same (or slightly lower) % charge after 2-3 hours left in the charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe a bad charger... Sorry i can't help more.
kaluna00 said:
Maybe a bad charger... Sorry i can't help more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm....4 different chargers and 4 different batteries tried. This is really bizzarre :0(
itm said:
Hmmm....4 different chargers and 4 different batteries tried. This is really bizzarre :0(
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What Adapter are you using? I normally use a 5 Volt 2 Amp output adapter.
kaluna00 said:
What Adapter are you using? I normally use a 5 Volt 2 Amp output adapter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried two power sources - one is 5V 2A, the other is 5V 2.4A.
Is it possible that the batteries are actually being charged, but that the phone isn't reporting the correct level of charge when the batteries are inserted?
itm said:
I've tried two power sources - one is 5V 2A, the other is 5V 2.4A.
Is it possible that the batteries are actually being charged, but that the phone isn't reporting the correct level of charge when the batteries are inserted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to leave one in over night and see if the light on the charger goes back to blue.