Will Google Edition take Touchwiz ROMs? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I'm definitely going to buy the Google Edition of S4.
I know they have the same hardware as the rest of the US Variants but I'm just wondering if Touchwiz STOCK rooted ROMs can be ported to the Google Edition.
I will be using AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM anyway but I just want to know just incase I want to test out TW.
Thanks

of course they can, and the other way around is also true, AOSP roms will be ported to TW versions of the phone

See the thing is. There are more devs who will work to port aosp onto the gs4. I can't say the same for devs working to port touchwiz onto google edition. It seems like everyone here tries to get rid of touchwiz

i haven't checked any roms lately, but if there are any existing TW roms, i'm pretty sure it'll be very easy to port them to the google edition since it's the same phone

No.
It will work but it won't work 100%
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175663
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Nexus 4 and optimus g were pretty much the same.

but these are the same phones.. externally and internally as far as i know.. the N4 doesnt have hardware buttons and the G does.

jetlitheone said:
Nexus 4 and optimus g were pretty much the same.
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being pretty much the same is not the same as being IDENTICAL. Anyways, only time will answer this question

XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
but these are the same phones.. externally and internally as far as i know.. the N4 doesnt have hardware buttons and the G does.
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Truth. There's no "pretty much" about it in this case. It's the same phone. Shouldn't even require much porting, if any at all. Just look at all the tmo, sprint, and i9505 ROMs we've been flashing - no porting. No different here.
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It be nice to get a hold of the google firmware and flash it just to see what happens

You guys have no clue if it's identical. They could change one tiny thing internally and mess it all up, which I could see them doing

What maybe different is most of the sensors maybe disabled like in the HTC GE version.
Wayne Tech Nexus

thatsupnow said:
It be nice to get a hold of the google firmware and flash it just to see what happens
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You have no idea how much I'm looking forward to just trying this.

zelendel said:
What maybe different is most of the sensors maybe disabled like in the HTC GE version.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Physically disabled or disabled due to lack of software?
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Thanks for input guys. I guess time will tell.

jetlitheone said:
You guys have no clue if it's identical. They could change one tiny thing internally and mess it all up, which I could see them doing
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the ultimate troll.. :silly:

4G LTE
I just got a 4S I9505 and can't get LTE only H+.
(AT&T says it's because it's not AT&T branded)
I guess they'll try to add my IMEI to their data base in the next couple of weeks.
I wonder if the Google phones will have the same issue?
The info I've seen listed AT&T and T Mobile, so maybe not.

jaxboater said:
I just got a 4S I9505 and can't get LTE only H+.
(AT&T says it's because it's not AT&T branded)
I guess they'll try to add my IMEI to their data base in the next couple of weeks.
I wonder if the Google phones will have the same issue?
The info I've seen listed AT&T and T Mobile, so maybe not.
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do you have the correct apn settings for the att lte? if not, add it and you will get lte

s1l3nt said:
do you have the correct apn settings for the att lte? if not, add it and you will get lte
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also make sure your account is provisioned correctly and you have an LTE-Enabled SIM card from them.

s1l3nt said:
do you have the correct apn settings for the att lte? if not, add it and you will get lte
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Yes, I've changed the APN settings.
Problem is AT&T doesn't recognize the new IMEI.
I put the SIM in a old Inspire (using a adapter).
When I logged into my account I could see my three lines and phones (2 Vivids & the Inspire).
But as soon as the SIM is back in the S 4 my account updates and the Inspire picture is replaced a general picture.
I have even tried to change the phone info on line. I selected Samsung but the i9505 isn't listed.
I'm thinking about using the IMEI from a broken vivid I have, but suspect it would be noticed.
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
also make sure your account is provisioned correctly and you have an LTE-Enabled SIM card from them.
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Yes on both.
But IMEI isn't listed with AT&T yet.

jaxboater said:
Yes, I've changed the APN settings.
Problem is AT&T doesn't recognize the new IMEI.
I put the SIM in a old Inspire (using a adapter).
When I logged into my account I could see my three lines and phones (2 Vivids & the Inspire).
But as soon as the SIM is back in the S 4 my account updates and the Inspire picture is replaced a general picture.
I have even tried to change the phone info on line. I selected Samsung but the i9505 isn't listed.
I'm thinking about using the IMEI from a broken vivid I have, but suspect it would be noticed.
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Yes on both.
But IMEI isn't listed with AT&T yet.
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This is one of the things with getting off network devices. Like my carrier only allows their devices to use the LTE network. Any IMEI in the network that is not theirs goes to get on LTE.
Also don't talk about changing your IMEI. It is Illegal.
Wayne Tech Nexus

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Band Selection

Coming from a Android phone, just wondering if there is an option to change the band from 3G to Edge on WP7? On Android phones, it prevents excessive battery drain.
Thanks
turn 3g of in settings.
Vico100 said:
turn 3g of in settings.
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Thanks for the reply but where is the 3g setting under? In cellular section there is only turn off data switch and no 3g setting.
There is no such setting for AT&T Focus. And there is no such setting for AT&T Captivate Android phone either.
huh ? I have a setting on my focus where i can turn off 3g!. Tho it will turn back on if you reset the phone. Put there is a setting to turn 3g off.
foxbat121 said:
There is no such setting for AT&T Focus. And there is no such setting for AT&T Captivate Android phone either.
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Maybe your Captivate doesn't have but mine does. Being on Xda you should be familiar with your captivate's function where you can toggle between GSM/Edge and 3G.
MRWRANGLERS1 said:
huh ? I have a setting on my focus where i can turn off 3g!. Tho it will turn back on if you reset the phone. Put there is a setting to turn 3g off.
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Kindly share how you can turn 3G off?
hey_joe said:
Maybe your Captivate doesn't have but mine does. Being on Xda you should be familiar with your captivate's function where you can toggle between GSM/Edge and 3G.
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Sans custom ROMs or secrect diag codes, the stock ROM does not have such settings. Yes, I'm very familiar with my Captivate's function.
You could just dial ##3282# and under settings you could change to 2G or 3G.
IHTH
foxbat121 said:
Sans custom ROMs or secrect diag codes, the stock ROM does not have such settings. Yes, I'm very familiar with my Captivate's function.
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As I said, mine has the option to change from 3G to Edge/GSM ( or auto which is the default for most Android phones ) even on a stock ROM which is from Rogers.
idloco said:
You could just dial ##3282# and under settings you could change to 2G or 3G.
IHTH
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That's exactly what I'm looking for.
Thanks
hey_joe said:
As I said, mine has the option to change from 3G to Edge/GSM ( or auto which is the default for most Android phones ) even on a stock ROM which is from Rogers.
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Didn't I already said in my original post that AT&T versions of the phones don't have such options?! I knew Canadian versions have it. Even though two phones carry the same name, the firmware are different and hardware are also slightly different. That applies to both Focus and Captivate.
foxbat121 said:
Didn't I already said in my original post that AT&T versions of the phones don't have such options?! I knew Canadian versions have it. Even though two phones carry the same name, the firmware are different and hardware are also slightly different. That applies to both Focus and Captivate.
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I read that but how did you know I or the others posting here have the AT&T version for you to post that? Custom roms or secret diag codes are not out of the questions since this is Xda after all. And yes I know that phones for different carriers have variations.
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I read that but how did you know I or the others posting here have the AT&T version for you to post that?
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Since you didn't mention what version you have. I specifically mentioned AT&T version to avoid the confusion. Whatever on the AT&T versions of phones don't apply to Canandian versions and vice versa.
foxbat121 said:
Since you didn't mention what version you have. I specifically mentioned AT&T version to avoid the confusion. Whatever on the AT&T versions of phones don't apply to Canandian versions and vice versa.
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You yourself said ( and I agree ) there are minor differences of the same model of phones to different carriers. So you're now saying one function from one doesn't apply to the other? Even though some people here post ( and proved ) that there is a way to select between the two bands I'm asking about?
The ROMs are different with settings added or removed per carrier requirement. Diagnostic code may or maynot be the same. What others posted is about using the diagnostic code which you can refer to the sticky thread.
foxbat121 said:
The ROMs are different with settings added or removed per carrier requirement. Diagnostic code may or maynot be the same. What others posted is about using the diagnostic code which you can refer to the sticky thread.
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Then there is a setting for changing the band frequency after all even on stock firmware, AT&T or not.
Check the sticky thread above called 'diagnostic code'
foxbat121 said:
Check the sticky thread above called 'diagnostic code'
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I went through 7 pages of that sticky before posting my question here ( did not go any further as posting my query will illicit specific response than having to go through all the pages ). Found about 3 people asking the same question as I did but no answer.
The issue between you and me is that you keep claiming there is no option in setting the band on either Edge/GSM and 3G on Focus and captivate ( whether it's AT&T or not, standard or custom firmware ) when in fact there is. Whether it's diagnostic or custom firmware is beside the point, I was asking for just that setting.

Evo and freedompop

Has anyone been able to get their Evo to connect to freedom pop?
I have changed the realm and Mac, just like the S2 phone, but to no avail.
johnmjohnson said:
Has anyone been able to get their Evo to connect to freedom pop?
I have changed the realm and Mac, just like the S2 phone, but to no avail.
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It's probably possible if you have a wifi network set up with them as your isp. I don't know much about them, and I don't have FreedomPop availability anywhere near me, so I can't really help you. Sorry
did it work?
ant news on this post??
I have an old EVO 4G and considering it's a free service, I'll give it a shot when I get home.
I got it to work a few hours ago.
I had to revert to stock and then update profile.
Works though, I am also not in the coverage area. But I can make calls.
Thanks for the tip frogman, I had to update profile as well but it worked. Another note for others: The MSL password freedompop gave me during its setup instructions did not work, but updating profile afterwards did.
Here's a speed test on 4G in the Houston area. Not too shabby for a 100% free service!!
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/653272762
I just flashed my old bedside Evo 4g (it's seriously been an alarm clock for months) back to Sprint from Cricket and activated it with FreedomPop. I bought it a couple years ago thinking it had a bad ESN and I could save a few bucks using it on Cricket. I would have never imaged that today I would be activating it for totally free service.
My alarm clock has just become highly capable off wifi again lol.
Crazy.
It's time to get back in to developing on this thing again.
Update: Seems to work nicely so far. The only things I'd note are that the VoIP is a tad slow. If I make a call in the same room with someone I notice about a 1 second delay between them actually talking and me hearing them on the phone. Also I really don't like the text messaging app. It cuts off part of the text message with the balloon graphic. Not sure if there's any way around that. It'd be nice if they'd hijack the default messaging app in the same way they did the phone app so it'd be truly seamless. But oh well, it is FREE.
Has anyone tried this with a non-stock ROM like Cyanogenmod?
i got it working, finally. i had to get my own msl unlock code.
Anyways, i just got the phone off of CL. I want to root it.
before i can root it, i need to unlock the bootloader, and it would factory reset the phone. Would the factory reset mess up the freedompop setup?
thanks
cfli1688c1 said:
i got it working, finally. i had to get my own msl unlock code.
Anyways, i just got the phone off of CL. I want to root it.
before i can root it, i need to unlock the bootloader, and it would factory reset the phone. Would the factory reset mess up the freedompop setup?
thanks
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I just got my (retired) OG set up on this. Was pretty straightforward. Once the device is activated, you should be able to unlock/S-OFF/whatever. I'm about to check and see if it's possible to use a JellyBean ROM with it. It should be fine.
Works on CM10.1. And I can still use Google Voice for my other number through the native dialer, if I want. Very nice.
Captain_Throwback said:
Works on CM10.1. And I can still use Google Voice for my other number through the native dialer, if I want. Very nice.
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Which rom did you flash? Would the 422 aokp rom work?
cfli1688c1 said:
Which rom did you flash? Would the 422 aokp rom work?
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Any ROM should work, as long as you activate it on stock first. Once it's activated it should stay that way.
Keep in mind though that you lose WiMAX once you flash a non-Gingerbread ROM. Call quality did seem adequate over 3G, though (surprisingly).
Would someone mind sharing the search terms you used to find instructions on how to flash to Freedom pop? I've searched Google and even on Freedom pop's website. I'm willing to search, but just need a little help to get started.
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you dont need to flash to it, but you do need to have the right phones:
Phones you can bring:
- Source Gizmodo
HTC EVO 4G
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Epic 4G Touch
Samsung Galaxy S III 16GB
LG Optimus S
Motorola Photon 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Boost Prevail by Samsung
Galaxy Nexus by Samsung
Nexus S 4G by Samsung
http://freedompop.com/byod
- after you put your address, you will need to put the meid of the phone, then it will tell you if you phone will work with them
Many thanks!
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cfli1688c1 said:
you dont need to flash to it, but you do need to have the right phones:
Phones you can bring:
- Source Gizmodo
HTC EVO 4G
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Epic 4G Touch
Samsung Galaxy S III 16GB
LG Optimus S
Motorola Photon 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Boost Prevail by Samsung
Galaxy Nexus by Samsung
Nexus S 4G by Samsung
http://freedompop.com/byod
- after you put your address, you will need to put the meid of the phone, then it will tell you if you phone will work with them
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EVO 3D doesn't work - I tried it. I think the EVO 4G might be the only phone they're supporting initially (since it's the one they offer). And you have to use the MEID DEC - HEX won't work.
Loading went well. Speed test over 1mb down. Made a test phone call... Unbelievable! This can't be real. Lol All, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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Captain_Throwback said:
EVO 3D doesn't work - I tried it. I think the EVO 4G might be the only phone they're supporting initially (since it's the one they offer). And you have to use the MEID DEC - HEX won't work.
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Yep, the only phone you can activate right now is the Evo 4G or the Evo design. Some people are having luck with the Galaxy SII, but it's not universal. Long thread here:
http://slickdeals.net/f/6449794-fre...sprint-byod-phones-for-voice-text-data-plans?

What the crap 5.1 in Verizon N6?

http://phandroid.com/2015/02/26/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-march-12-android-5-1-volte-support/
Does voLTE require a hardware upgrade or is this potentially a feature that all n6s can enjoy?
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My house phone is better than your iPhone.
T-mobile is actually testing VoLTE on N6. I think it will be in the OS. Time will tell.
Band 12 volte and WiFi calling I hope but I'm more interested in performance and battery improvements
dodgebizkit said:
Does voLTE require a hardware upgrade or is this potentially a feature that all n6s can enjoy?
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My house phone is better than your iPhone.
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It's all software side.
Phandroid=Clickbait
When in doubt remember the rule above.
RW-1 said:
Phandroid=Clickbait
When in doubt remember the rule above.
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While that may or may not be accurate they at least have some good news. I won a Nexus 9 from them during the 20 days of giveaways in December so they aren't all bad.
As far as 5.1 goes if its out on VZW then it will be out on all Nexus 6's as far as I'm concerned. Whether or not google posts the ROM devs can likely extract the files and incorporate them into a ROM. Let's see what happens because I would like to use B12 and WiFi calling on T-Mobile. I know T-Mobile has to enable some things in their end for it to work but at least we would have the software here ready and waiting.
With all the issues the N6 has on Sprint I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon wants that fixed before releasing on their network. Maybe the texting and call issues are CDMA related rather than Sprint specific?
I've had my N6 on Verizon for months, and everything works perfectly.
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MG386 said:
I've had my N6 on Verizon for months, and everything works perfectly.
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Same, with the exception of the network extender. On the extender, no 3G data and the signal indicator goes wonky. It also tries very hard to connect to an outside tower rather than the extender...
Hope they fix the data icon and connections taking long to actually connect
Have Verizon actually got a n6 with 5.1 or is it just hearsay.
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pifsworld said:
Have Verizon actually got a n6 with 5.1 or is it just hearsay.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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Well, at this point, until the device is announced, it's just hearsay.
beachbum40 said:
Hope they fix the data icon and connections taking long to actually connect
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Hell, my wifi doesn't want to connect if I toggle it off, then back on later. Gotta do a reboot most times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/verizon-nexus-6-march-5-1-t3041938
Some discussion at the thread above.
Edit: hit return too quick.
I don't recall seeing anything official from Verizon or Google that it will be 5.1. I think that's what everyone is guessing based on the features posted by Verizon for the phone, T-Mobile comments and that 5.1 has been spotted somewhere in the world on some handsets. I'm looking forward to it as I have a lot of problems with WiFi and Bluetooth which I hope this will clear up. Also, if rumors are true and we get wifi calling, band 12 (t-mobile customer) and VoLTE, all the better.
mgerbasio said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/verizon-nexus-6-march-5-1-t3041938
Some discussion at the thread above.
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Pfft, our thread was first
kvnhmmd said:
Hell, my wifi doesn't want to connect if I toggle it off, then back on later. Gotta do a reboot most times.
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Yes that's exactly what I have to do ..
beachbum40 said:
Yes that's exactly what I have to do ..
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Are you still on stock rom with this issue?
kvnhmmd said:
Are you still on stock rom with this issue?
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Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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beachbum40 said:
Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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I am on the T-Mobile variant
beachbum40 said:
Yes I'm on stock 5.0.1 and it seems to happen also on any custom rom
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I am on the T-Mobile variant
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I'm on Chroma 5.0.2 with the newest radio file (as of this post) with the issue. Glad I'm not the only one

Verizon Bloat in 5.1

Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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stooley said:
Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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That is disgusting to see. Then again, like SprintDM, the phones will have all of this so that all the models with have the same OS and therefore one model for all networks.
stooley said:
Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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Somehow I think you'll survive.
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Can it be uninstalled?
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Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter
Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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biggiestuff said:
Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.
nxt said:
Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.
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When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.
biggiestuff said:
When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.
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You know what, I think Verizon shows up because I have the My Fios app installed, yeah that's why.
My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"
Daveoc64 said:
My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"
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YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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Exactly. People need to get over this.
Think isn't that bad ?
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stas333 said:
Exactly. People need to get over this.
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Yeah, it's really not bad. It's not like the apps are even being used at all. I mean, you can always delete the apks with a file manager if it hurts that much.
SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.
biggiestuff said:
The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.
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All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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david279 said:
All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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Good to hear they fixed that in 5.1 . every ounce of RAM counts hahaha. I'm just OCD when it comes to memory management hahaha.
biggiestuff said:
YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell
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Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.
I think its funny people are calling it bloat. Like its bing maps, skype or the samsung S apps.
oldblue910 said:
Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.
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We are smarter than that. That's why we freeze it. . It's just one of the things friends ask me is. Why do you like nexus phones and why should I switch? I tell them that nexus phones don't have all that bloatware carrier phones come with. And while it's still free of bloatware for the most part, I hope it's not a trend in the wrong direction. If they can install carrier apps depending on what carrier Sim, why weren't they able to keep these apps carrier specific? It's not THAT big of a deal for now but like I said I hope it doesn't go in the wrong direction.
My theory is that eventually the upcoming Google wireless service will be compatible across all 4 carriers. Imagine never having a coverage issue because you have a phone that works on all 4 concurrently with one service.

Nexus 6 Android 5.1 different versions discussion

We are having 3 official versions of the android 5.1 showing up. LMY47D, LMY47E, LMY47I. Some say they are carrier specific, some say they are not, and others have no idea what is going on. So, let’s discuss all the versions here and why some may or may not think that each one is carrier specific.
My main questions to those that say they are carrier specific is, I though Nexus 6 was not carrier locked and can work on all 4 carriers just by swapping the sim card. If that is the case, the how can we have carrier specific updates? I guess in theory it can be related to the sim that we have in our phones, so then by changing the sim from one carrier to another we will need to/offered the other software version?
There was a thread pointing to a twitter from someone at T-Mobile that explained this. As I understand it, Google changed the way it handles the minor network tweaking carriers need to make for their network and SIMs. Any OS would work with any phone but the carrier specific version will work slightly better. They can't make any changes to apps or the OS, just some network parameters. I'm oversimplifying but that's what I got out of it.
mgerbasio said:
There was a thread pointing to a twitter from someone at T-Mobile that explained this. As I understand it, Google changed the way it handles the minor network tweaking carriers need to make for their network and SIMs. Any OS would work with any phone but the carrier specific version will work slightly better. They can't make any changes to apps or the OS, just some network parameters. I'm oversimplifying but that's what I got out of it.
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hmm, i need to find that.
I'll assume because of the N6's "all carrier compatibility" they have released carrier specific optimizations in their different builds. Unfortunately, and in my opinion, Google caved with the N6 to get better sales. It is what it is and I'm just thankful I have a phone that I can still do as I please with it. It would be nice, and thoughtful, if the Goog would release official information on what the heck they are doing with these different builds.... is that so hard?!
So does anyone know which one matches which carrier?
kdoggy said:
So does anyone know which one matches which carrier?
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if its carrier specific, D is sprint, E is verizon, M is t- mobile.
edit, since canada is getting version D right now, D must be just general. Who knows. lol
So nothing specific to AT&T yet? Just curious to try a carrier specific one and see if data is faster.
stas333 said:
hmm, i need to find that.
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Try these...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59535507&postcount=90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59535608&postcount=92
Not so much. 47e brought in new camera proprietary binaries too so it isn't just carrier specific
stas333 said:
if its carrier specific, D is sprint, E is verizon, M is t- mobile
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Can't be carrier specific, I am on 3 Uk and have the D variant.
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I would weigh in and say that if a carrier makes a change needing a new build, it gets submitted to Google, tested and the changes only affect those with that carrier, likely due to SIM detection.
The fact that the phone has radios for all the carriers means that this can be possible, tweaks to a radio or band your phone may not use won't affect you ... and at the same time Google can toss in some tweaks across the board for all of us. I suppose that what makes it confusing is that while any of them can be flashed, they'll only push out the one to a carrier specific imei set, like E to Verizon.
For the normal user, they get an update that makes their specific network functionality better, and the others are not pushed for that, but may get the overall tweaks in the next update to their phone in general, or if before that there is a carrier requested tweak for them that requires a build release.
But we here, see all of this because we have that "wanting to have the latest build" mentality, the questions arise.
westers035 said:
Can't be carrier specific, I am on 3 Uk and have the D variant.
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What was suggested was that every build would work but a specific variant would be slightly better. For example m would be better for t mobile but any variant would work. For carriers other than sprint, verizon and t mobile I don't know if there'd be any real difference.
Has anyone on ATT received a 5.1 OTA?
If so, which one?
sykopompos said:
Not so much. 47e brought in new camera proprietary binaries too so it isn't just carrier specific
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I knew something seemed different about the camera. Photos in low light looked better to me.
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stas333 said:
if its carrier specific, D is sprint, E is verizon, M is t- mobile
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Exactly. But some will never admit it
The real question is this:
Can someone on T-mobile who is on 47D or 47E see if they get an OTA update to 47M?
If the builds are carrier specific, would google push them based off the the SIM or the IEMI? It would have to be the SIM right? For people that purchased a phone through Google/Motorola and are using it on Verizon. Or switch networks, whatever the case may be.
buschris said:
Exactly. But some will never admit it
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Admit what? If it it carrier specific then explain why E has Camera updates that D does not? What does that have to do with the carrier?
If everything was the same except for the Radio.img then I'd buy the carrier only thing, but there are more that's changed.
buschris said:
Exactly. But some will never admit it
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i edited my post. D is not Sprint. It must be general version since Canada is getting it right now.
buschris said:
Exactly. But some will never admit it
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Because its not true, then why did i get the 47D version in the Netherlands Europe. Btw i also have Sprint and Verizon files in my firmware, so that tells me they are universal roms that contain specific (network) optimisations that will be triggered when using a specific carrier.
phoenixus said:
The real question is this:
Can someone on T-mobile who is on 47D or 47E see if they get an OTA update to 47M?
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According to the T-Mobile Support page, the requirements to upgrade to 47M is that your current build must be LRX22C, so I'm guessing that those with 47D or 47E won't be able to get an OTA update to 47M.
I'm on T-Mobile with 47D, and I didn't receive any OTA update as of now.

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