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[Info]Galaxy S4 is coming ...don't go for any other phone.

According to an article in Korea times ...s4 will be released in Feb 2013...so most of us who did not upgrade to galaxy s3 should wait about 6 more months to get the most powerful beast in our hands...
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/09/133_120024.html

This is to destroy the so fana iphone 5 benchmark im sure ,! But please not too big Samsung !
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If they go for anything larger than the S3 they can forget about me buying that.
S3's size is utterly ridiculous (can't find many people who can 100% interact with it with only one hand), anything larger that that will be just sad.
Only thing left is to pray to the electronics god that Google makes their next Nexus in the size of the current one / S2's! can't imagine a better phone size, bigger than the tiny iPhone (yea, talking about the new fella) but easy to play with using one hand only.
if only the'll be able to also make it Super AMOLED Plus (like the S2's non-PenTile, but with S3's resolution).

S4 might not have a screen larger than S3 since the current size distinction gives proper difference between the S and Note lines. If size goes beyond 4.8 will impact sales of either of them.
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The more I use my S2..the more I feel it's the perfect size. I had a GNex for a bit and it was just a tad too wide. I think something the size of the s2 with a edge to edge screen would be great.

Yeah then we wait for the S5 next year :banghead: and S6 the year after that
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S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)

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Prashanthme said:
S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)
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May I ask, why Nvidia GPU? I should say that most benchmarks say that our mali-400mp4 clocked at 266mhz is just as powerful as the full clocked tegra 3 gpu variant, plus we have a much lower resolution screen than any tegra 3 powered deice I have ever seen, meaning our device can end up playing better games that quite a few of the devices with the tegra chip in it. Like with full effects enabled on dead trigger, it is so much smoother than my nexus 7 with it's gpu overclocked from 416mhz to 520mhz. Personally I would take the overclocked 440mhz mali-400mp4 in the s3 anyday over any nividia GPU. Althoug, the gpu going to be used in some of the new exynos 5 chips which should power the s4, looks incredible.

Prashanthme said:
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
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Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.

sahibunlimited said:
Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.
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Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?

Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Prashanthme said:
Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?
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Dead trigger is optimized from tegra 3 and the mali400 in s2 is a bit weaker from terga 3's gpu

TheSniperFan said:
Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Ya ur rite S2 is the Best screen size which fits perfectly in hand.. mainly robust Tablets max 10"

well samsung wants to keep a one year product schedule so its not news,but this reports states the phone will be 5 inches from 4.8, i wonder if the note will be bigger

According to Sammobile latest news, Samsung denied an S IV release in february or march. Link from source: http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/18/samsung-debunks-galaxy-s-iv-rumor/. Another link is http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_responds_to_galaxy_s_iv_rumors_debunks_them-news-4819.php

If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".

jackierobinson said:
If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".
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Sadly you're kinda right.
I've already made my decision. My next phone will be a Nexus, period.
I could forgive the longer wait for updates, if I'd actually use them. At the moment the only reason I'm waiting for updates is because the cm team can make a proper one with those.
There is only one manufacturer that does great modifications to android, but those phones aren't available here. :'(
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Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE = SnapDragon 800

we've see in the news the South Korea only GS4 with the Snapdragon 800 beast
I hope Samsung release a 800 powered Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE in September :good:
Who else :highfive:

It's surely gonna be in the note 3.
unless there's a better one at that time
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Has Note series ever used SDragon?

tuxonhtc said:
Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does

tuxonhtc said:
Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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cirian75 said:
nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does
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That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493

jeffs99 said:
That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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ok, there has been a snapdragon dual core note.
The 3 kings of CPU the hill right now are
the LTE quad core Snapdragon's
600 as used in the LTE S4 i9505 and HTC one
800 beast as used in the South Korea only S4
and the
Non LTE Exynos 5 Octa 5410 8 core
I hope Samsung will put the 800 in the Note 3

what's wrong with Octo core?

FinancialWar said:
what's wrong with Octo core?
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big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2

tbb1mb said:
big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2
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My wife own a S4 (i9500) and never had a heating problem or any problem at all. Yes it's a little bit hot when the A15 kicks in for a long time but summer in Shanghai is really hot and nothing to freak out. I also sold a couple of them to people I know and none of them have issues. They all love it. I think you highly exaggerate when you say "lot of issues".

Note II/III LTE with Snapdragon 800
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?

New octa would be better than S800 imo.

86Dragons said:
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?
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No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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jetbruceli said:
No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me

mat9v said:
Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me
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Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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jetbruceli said:
Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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I say it's perfect. I have both to compare as I wrote @5.5 inch 720p and 1080p are almost indistinguishable from normal use distance. You say it's not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unless you put your nose almost to the screen you won't see any difference. Of course, given chance I would take FHD but to pay premium for it? No way Reading books - I do it every day on Note 2, playing games - with current GPU it would be suicide to try FHD gaming @ full details. Note 3, whatever they put in it will have to be much faster to handle FHD, the only reason I'm happy about that is because I will use MHL to play on my TV and then it will finally use full resolution. Other than that FHD on screen this size is useless, companies have limited numbers to compete with, so they up the display resolution (putting further strain on battery because higher res requires faster GPU and CPU to drive it well) or camera megapixels.
It drives my all the closer to switching to Chinese phones - 1/2 the price, almost the same hardware - you can get Note 2 lookalike (although with MTK CPU, but almost equal in speed) for about 300$, of course, no SPen, but that was only an example.
Oh, and you get FHD display that you like so much

Nexus 7 (2013) vs Samsung Galaxy Note 8

So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.

189 ppi on Note is meagre. If the device will be used for viewing media, e.g books and videos than better screen is critical.

I doubt the processor is actually better on the note and the screen is that bad on the note? Really? Nexus all the way
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I doubt the processor is actually better on the note and the screen is that bad on the note? Really? Nexus all the way
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In fact, the processor in the Nexus is FAR better than the one on Note 8 -> it uses 4x cores of Krait A15 instead of the older A9 present in the Note.
Not that the Note's CPU is bad, but you can see this in the many benchmarks popping out these days.

True. The new nexus 7 trumps note 8 processor. Which was discovered to have Krait 300 cores. So although they call it S4 pro, its a variant that's really a lower clocked/lower binned snapdragon 600. Like other poster said, most all new benchmarks popping up are showing that nexus7 is top notch in processing power compared to other android devices and ipad4/mini. Plus it has Andreno 320 GPU.
Clearly.new nexus 7 brings the best bang for buck. If you really into the Spen, note is what u want. For everything else, Nexus7 beats it out.
I have a galaxy note 10.1. Although a nice.feature, I rarely use.the pen. Its a great tablet even.without.the pen. Its your choice though. IMO, I'd say.save the extra cash and get the new nexus7.

I have both and have just started to compare. First impressions in reading this forum with the dark theme (white type on black)
and large font on the nexus and normal font on the note, the black background is dark black on the note and grayish black on the nexus with same brightness level.
The font is just as easy to read and clear on the note. Practically speaking they read the same. But the real black background on the note is more pleasing to my eyes.
Holding each with one hand while reading, the note is more comfortable and feels lighter probably because of the size and balance.
So I this use case I prefer the note.
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dhuewes said:
In fact, the processor in the Nexus is FAR better than the one on Note 8 -> it uses 4x cores of Krait A15 instead of the older A9 present in the Note.
Not that the Note's CPU is bad, but you can see this in the many benchmarks popping out these days.
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I searched the interwebs for these bench marks, both on quadrant.
The only place where the note 8 is bad in is the freeze issues, because of the touch-whiz lagging it.
I'm not sure if what you were talking about (Krait A15, A9) makes a difference to the benchmarks on quadrant, I believe that the nexus 7 is .1 GHz lower than the Note 8, that may not make a big difference.
Scores:
Nexus 7 (2013): 5501
Note 8: 6848
There's many other benchmarks out there which may vary, but I thought that quadrant would be the best to look at.
I could be noobing out here about processing power and benchmarks, if I am, please correct me.

GreatLachlan said:
I searched the interwebs for these bench marks, both on quadrant.
The only place where the note 8 is bad in is the freeze issues, because of the touch-whiz lagging it.
I'm not sure if what you were talking about (Krait A15, A9) makes a difference to the benchmarks on quadrant, I believe that the nexus 7 is .1 GHz lower than the Note 8, that may not make a big difference.
Scores:
Nexus 7 (2013): 5501
Note 8: 6848
There's many other benchmarks out there which may vary, but I thought that quadrant would be the best to look at.
I could be noobing out here about processing power and benchmarks, if I am, please correct me.
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Just taking one benchmark won't guage power best. Just look at anandtech mini review. He did a very thorough benchmarking. It's enough different benchmarks to show a wider range of where nexus7 power lies at. Actually anandtech has done the most thorough benching yet.
Quadrant alone varies from test to test.
I can tell.you're on.the fence about which one to get. Ask yourself, how badly.do you want that Spen? If new n7 wasn't out, the note8 would be the small tablet to get. I.wanted one..lol

I had this same dilemma when I was in bestbuy but I got the Nexus because there is much more development for the N7 over the samsung tablet. Last year when I was buying the original N7 and the galaxy tab was out also there wasnt much development going on so I went with the N7. Both are great though :good: Just not as much development with the galaxy tabs like the phones

If neither has an sd slot, seems a 32gb N7 2 is the better buy.

I have both right now, and I'm having a really hard time deciding which one to keep. The N7 definitely has better specs, and the Anandtech mini-review removed any doubt about which processor is superior, but the overall experience I'm getting on the Note is the same, if not better. The bigger screen makes the Note really feel like a tablet, whereas to me the N7 just feels like a giant phone. The screen on the N7 is noticeably better when looking at them side by side, but when using the Note by itself it's easy to forget that it's only a 1200x800 display. In terms of weight, the Note is a tad heavier but the difference is negligible. The expandable storage on the Note is also a huge bonus. I'm still trying to decide if I'll use the S-pen; I took it to class the other day and tried to take notes, and while that worked, I'm not sure I won't get sick of it after awhile. My biggest issue with the Note is the price. If they dropped the price on the Note, I would probably keep it, but as of right now the $150 savings I would get by choosing the N7 is really tempting. The N7 also has NFC, wireless charging, and better support from Google. But I hate the N7 form factor, so I don't know what I'm going to do. As I said earlier, I'm having a great experience with the Note, so if price isn't an issue for you, and you could see yourself using the S-pen a lot, then I would recommend the Note.

1280*800 on a 8"? that's pretty bad. the gen1 N7 has the same resolution and you can see some pixelation.
plus the n7 is cheaper. this should be a no brainer unless you REALLY like spen.

Thanks for the detailed post, I'm most likely going to get the note 8 now.
I am 13 years old (yeah, I know, a kid...on XDA) meaning I will be getting the tablet from my parents, if they tell me that the note 8 is a tad to expensive, I will definitely ask them to get the new N7.
I'm not really looking for a whole ton of speed anyway, I will root the device I get, but will mostly be using YouTube, flip board, and possibly other note features if I get it.
Again, thanks for all posts helping me decide which one to get.
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The big thing here is the Nexus 7 will get lots of updates. With KeyLime Pie right around the corner... the Note will lose its luster fast. Plus the Note has a Pen.
Big things to leave out.
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If you plan to use the pen for drawing, note taking, filling out and signing PDF documents, etc. the pen outweighs the higher resolution. As for performance, the Note 10.1 I had was very responsive while the Note 8 is even better. If you don't plan to use the pen then it's a toss-up between the two best 7 to 8" tablets on the market.

For work = Note 8
For Home = Nexus 7

I love the Idea of the S Pen (Have have a Note II currently), I've been wanting and smaller tablet to complement my 10.1" tablet (that currently works but needs a screen replacement, due a crack is making the touch interface very wacky). Like the Idea of an 8" S Pen enabled device and been keeping an enye on the new Nexus 7 recently.
Here are my thoughts on the subject after looking at both:
Galaxy Note 8:
+ S pen (comes in handy though I really don't use it very often on my Note II)
+ 8" screen is a nice size (but makes it a little less portable vs a 7" tablet)
+ Samsung has some nice multi-window features and other customizations on the devices
+ expendable memory with microSD
- Too big with a thick bezel all the way around making for a harder one hand hold.
- Performance is not competitive with newer devices
- More expensive
- lower resolution on a larger screen (not bad but doesn't compare to the new Nexus 7)
- Android update is always slow.
Nexus 7 (2013)
+ Performance best in class in the small tablet form factor at the moment
+ Thinner bezel on the sides makes it easy to hold in portrait mode and bigger bezel on top and bottom gives you a place for you hands in two handed landscape mode.
+ Beautiful 1920x1200 screen that is just AWESOME
+ Fast updates straight from Google
- Smaller 7" display (I do like the size of the 8-inchers)
- No S-pen (though I don't use it as often as I thought, still nice to have)
- No cool multi-window functionality like Samsung adds
- No MicroSD card slot
In the end I decided the I could live without the S Pen, larger display and Samsung added features. The new Nexus 7s display, performance and updates made it an easy choice for me. I already have an S pen enabled phone anyway. I do miss the MicroSD card, where I usually store music, photos and videos, but I never come close to using all the space. I figure 32 GB will suffice.
Today I walked out of Best Buy with a Nexus 7, and no regrets. I love the screen, the resolution is fantastic, and is much smaller than I expected (in a good way). So far it has been FAST and SMOOTH.
Bottom like, if you need or REALLY want the S Pen get the Note 8.... If not the Nexus seven is the best small Android tablet currently available.

GreatLachlan said:
So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.
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Grab the Note 8...it's a no brainer..don't let anyone tell you differently!
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GreatLachlan said:
So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.
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I actually returned my note 8 for the nexus 7
I miss the SD card, the extra inch and that's about it
I mostly use tablets for reading and video. Hence, having more dpi was important to me. Plus this thing is super smooth compared with the note 8.
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Oh and, why do you need the sPen so bad? I have never found a good use for it other than being able to scroll while hand were messy, so as not to worry about getting oil on the screen from eating, etc
I hated the resolution in the note 8, this became very evident while trying to read and zooming in on stuff
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Also, the note 8 felt cheap and I already have the s4. It just felt like a bigger s4 with a crappier screen.
I guess i went with nexus 7 becuase I wanted to have a new device that worked differently and wasn't just a bigger screen twin of my s4
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I had the note 8. Returned it for the nexus 7 2013.
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A show down: Note 4 vs Note 10.1 vs GS5

So Ive had my Note 4 for a nice bit, but now its time to stack it up against its in house brothers. Ive got in my stock an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5 and a Wifi only Note 10.1 2014.
Both are the newest in their segments from Samsung, both packing some pretty great hardware. Lets break down how they compare with a few benchmarks. The two of which I decided to use was 3D Mark and Vellamo.
First I want to go over a brief overview of the specs for the unfamiliar.
Note 10.1 -Wifi only
Screen: 10.1" WQXGA Clear LCD (2560 x 1600), 299 ppi
CPU: Exynos® 5 Octa (1.9GHz Quadcore + 1.3 GHz Quadcore)
GPU: ARM Mali T628MP6 (6 Core)
RAM: 3Gb
Memory: 16GB with 32Gb Class 10 Micro SD
Sprint Note 4
Screen: 5.7” Quad HD Super AMOLED (2560 x1440), 515 ppi
CPU: Snapdragon 805 Quadcore 2.7GHz
GPU: Adreno 420
RAM: 3Gb
Memory: 16Gb with 16Gb Class 10 Micro SD
Galaxy S5
Screen: 5.1” FHD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080), 432 ppi
CPU: Snapdragon 801 2.5 GHz
GPU: Adreno 330
RAM: 2Gb
Memory: 16Gb with Class 10 Micro SD
I would like to note that all of these devices are stock, used often, and not enhanced from their factory setting in any way.
LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!
3D Mark:
Note 10.1 This unit scored a number of 13513. I do want to make note that 3D mark has removed the device from caparisons as it was flagged for unfair modification to boost benchmark results. That being said, this turned out to be the runt of the litter despite the Octa-Core CPU in this benchmark.
Note 4 This device scored a whopping 20159 on this benchmark. With superior hardware to its brothers it bests even the iPhone 6 Plus which is scored at a modest 17843 and the iPhone 6 which is ranked even lower at 17307 on 3D Marks comparison charts.
Galaxy S5 This device ranked at a nice 18217. Besting both of Apples newest attempts and bumping along just short of Note 4.
Vellamo
This benchmark measures things a little differently, which I like. It has Browser benchmark, obviously for the borwser(For this I measured the stock Samsung browser and Chrome). It has Multicore which is exactly as it suggests, an advanced multicore benchmark. Lastly, it also has Metal, which measures maximum power of the device.
Note 10.1
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3524
Chrome: 3214
The Note 10.1 seemed to really blaze along here, both results coming in with hot numbers ranking above HTC's M8.
Multicore The Device ranked a very nice 1570, it show up short of the G3 at 1711 and ahead of the nexus 5 at 1525.
Metal Once again, no disappointment. The device ranked in at 1374 beating out the Nexus 5 (1271) and coming in below the LG G3 (1497).
Galaxy S5
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3278
Chrome: 2908
Bumping along a little slower than the Note 10.1, still scoring in with some nice results. This however was my daily driver for quite some time so cache and cookies may be hindering some performance here.
Multicore This device scoring a nice 1701, which is just ahead of Vellamo's score for the GS5 at 1647. Chugging along ahead of the Note 10.1 as with the 3D Mark, but not crushing it quite as bad. The Device ranks in just below the G3 as well, and has some significant distance ahead of the Nexus 5.
Metal Scoring an impressive 1518 this device is once again besting Vellamo's score for the GS5 at 1464. It tops everything on their comparison list except for the OnePlus One which ranks at 1653.
Note 4
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3546
Chrome: 3377
Crushing the competition here, the Note 4 is the clear winner.
Multicore Dropping it like its hot at 1870, this bad boy is killing everything on their list.
Metal Going in for the finishing blow (Que mortal combat announcers "Finish Him") the Note 4 is sitting at staggering 1823. Surpassing the Galaxy S5 by over 300 points in this segment, and the top chart comparison the OnePlus One by 170 points.
With that out of the way, I do want to say benchmarks are not the end all be all. The devices are all great and id recommend all of them to anyone, but I figured this was interesting to see on a numbers game just how they matched up. I recommend reading up into the two benchmarks I used if your interested in testing things out for yourselves. I find them both interesting and they both seem to keep interest in accurate results. Hope you guys enjoyed this! Let me know what you think and feel free to share input you've found along the way!
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Interesting, Chrome is slower on each device. I wish I actually liked the stock browser...
On a side note: is the Quadrant benchmark still a thing? Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2002

I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.

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chevyhighrider said:
I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.
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I had a choice of brand spankin new Note 5 or a mildy used Note 4 from swappa, Note 4 hands down, Its not as pretty as Note 5 but I always slap a case on my phone anyways. The 64 bit processor in Note 5 is awesome gd investment for future but the Note 4 being 32 bit will be supported till 2020 at least. Removable battery is always required for me, sd slot, ir blaster....I have this thing tweaked every which way...thanks to awesome devs on xda.

chevyhighrider said:
I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.
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Lollipop brightens the screen and makes it clearer as well. Got both the T-Mobile Note 4 and Note 10.1 2014 and Lollipop looks amazing on my tablet, downloaded a beach picture from a website in 2560x1600, and it looks clear. Definitely use the tablet with the spen more than the spen in my phone
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Thanks for the input. Ya pretty sure now that I'm going to use my money for a tablet not a phone. I just wish Samsung had or will have something to replace my Note 8.

what's a good benchmarking test aside from quadrant?

[Q] Where should i buy my Galaxy s4, is galaxy s4 the best option ?

OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!

s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.

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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.

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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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