LTE on the GT-i9500? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am purchasing a Samsung Galaxy S-IV GT-i9500 and I was hoping that I could somehow get it to work with LTE on AT&T. Is this possible. Like by flashing a new modem or something?
Thanks in advance.
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Pure+ said:
I am purchasing a Samsung Galaxy S-IV GT-i9500 and I was hoping that I could somehow get it to work with LTE on AT&T. Is this possible. Like by flashing a new modem or something?
Thanks in advance.
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not possible
if you want LTE get i9505
this was made clear in a lot of posts here

Blackwolf10 said:
not possible
if you want LTE get i9505
this was made clear in a lot of posts here
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I'd rather have eight cores than LTE. Thanks though.
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Pure+ said:
I'd rather have eight cores than LTE. Thanks though.
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That's a shame, because you won't be getting 8-cores. You'll be getting two sets of 4 - there's a difference.
Just another sucker to the marketing machine.

BJ van Beethoven said:
That's a shame, because you won't be getting 8-cores. You'll be getting two sets of 4 - there's a difference.
Just another sucker to the marketing machine.
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You owned him lol

BJ van Beethoven said:
That's a shame, because you won't be getting 8-cores. You'll be getting two sets of 4 - there's a difference.
Just another sucker to the marketing machine.
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4 + 4 = 8. I am very aware of how the technology works. I would still rather have the Exynos 5 Octacore processor.
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You owned him lol
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No, he didn't own me. He thinks he did. But you can't own someone for having a preference.
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Pure+ said:
I'd rather have eight cores than LTE. Thanks though.
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Actually: CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Krait 300 (I9505) VS. Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7 (I9500).
In tests it seems that I9505 was only some very small steps behind the 8 core... so I would think carefully. If you plan to change again the phone in next year or so, then yes, go for the 8 core. Otherwise, bear in mind that LTE will become more and more used... and cheaper

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I'd rather have eight cores than LTE. Thanks though.
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I'm the opposite but still I would have loved the Octa to go with the lte.
I still believe that Samsung will release an Octa with lte in a few months time.
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okty2k said:
Actually: CPUQuad-core 1.9 GHz Krait 300 (I9505) VS. Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7 (I9500).
In tests it seems that I9505 was only some very small steps behind the 8 core... so I would think carefully. If you plan to change again the phone in next year or so, then yes, go for the 8 core. Otherwise, bear in mind that LTE will become more and more used... and cheaper
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Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy LTE speeds. But I almost always on WiFi. Probably 90-95 percent of the time I'm using my phone is on WiFi. So LTE is not a big deal to me. And like you said, if I plan on getting a new phone in a year then get the octacore. I get a new phone at least once a year sometimes more.
sxi200 said:
I'm the opposite but still I would have loved the Octa to go with the lte.
I still believe that Samsung will release an Octa with lte in a few months time.
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If your right and Samsung does release the us octacore version with LTE then I'll simply sell the one I'm getting and get the us variant.
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sxi200 said:
I'm the opposite but still I would have loved the Octa to go with the lte.
I still believe that Samsung will release an Octa with lte in a few months time.
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Not a chance. There really isn't any reason that Samsung would do that. They have already manufactured and moved millions (tens of?) of the lte version. Why on earth would they create another? Octa is just going to appear in their future tablets
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lambstone said:
Not a chance. There really isn't any reason that Samsung would do that. They have already manufactured and moved millions (tens of?) of the lte version. Why on earth would they create another? Octa is just going to appear in their future tablets
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To add to your statement. I just read several articles that discussed how the snapdragon processor is designed for the LTE bands used by USA carriers. The Exynos processor requires a lot of work by Samsung to make it work on lte in the us. The note 3 may be the first samsung phone to have the octacore and LTE in the us. But I don't want a 6 inch screen in my front pocket. That would be almost like putting an ipad mini of your pocket. Almost.
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One thing I am seeing a lot of is that the GT-i9500 has an overheating problem. Does the GT-i9505 have the same problem or not? I also see a lot more development on the GT-i9505 but I really only want to root to de-bloat and I don't really need custom Ron for that.
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Pure+ said:
One thing I am seeing a lot of is that the GT-i9500 has an overheating problem. Does the GT-i9505 have the same problem or not? I also see a lot more development on the GT-i9505 but I really only want to root to de-bloat and I don't really need custom Ron for that.
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The i9505 will only get hot under intensive use such as gaming or the likes. I had no choice in choosing an i9500 or i9505, but I don't mind. The octacore is all nice when the technology works as Samsung advertised it, but it doesn't, and the i9505 doesn't lag at all for me. Plenty of development and debloated ROM's to keep you happy.
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lambstone said:
Not a chance. There really isn't any reason that Samsung would do that. They have already manufactured and moved millions (tens of?) of the lte version. Why on earth would they create another? Octa is just going to appear in their future tablets
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That's what people said about the S3 then the i9305 was released.
They do this around the time a new iPhone is released.
Pure+ said:
The Exynos processor requires a lot of work by Samsung to make it work on lte in the us. The note 3 may be the first samsung phone to have the octacore and LTE in the us.
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Again, that's what was said about the S3. That quad core + lte was too hard but then the S3 4g i9305 was released. Remember from release they had a quad core + lte in Korea so why people were saying it was too hard beats me. And now again the Korean model is both Octa and lte.
My money is on an Octa + lte around September.
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Getting 70mpbs on lte with my gt-i337m
Never got near that even on my school's 100mbps wifi

Pure+ said:
One thing I am seeing a lot of is that the GT-i9500 has an overheating problem. Does the GT-i9505 have the same problem or not? I also see a lot more development on the GT-i9505 but I really only want to root to de-bloat and I don't really need custom Ron for that.
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I am using a I9505. What I can say is that, while it get warm/hot under certain circumstances (mostly games + charging in parallel), it is the 'coldest' phone I had until now. Compared, even the S3 is getting much hotter. So far, I did not find the temperature as a disturbing point (as with several other phones).

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Korean Note to be released on 11-29

To All who are interested (TMO ppl) The South Korean Note is scheduled to be released on 11-29-11. This will be a variant of the Euro version and is scheduled to have penta-band capability (1700/2100) It also is a LTE version capable of 42 mb d/l (theoretically) You can read more here:
http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/24/sk-telecom-to-release-galaxy-note-in-south-korea/
This will be the version that is supposed to be compatible with T-Mobile USA.
No exynos though.
5150Joker said:
No exynos though.
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They are using the snapdragon?
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xandermpls said:
They are using the snapdragon?
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The article says 1.5 ghz dual core, Exynos doesn't make 1.5. Take a look at the Galaxy Skyrocket...
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xandermpls said:
They are using the snapdragon?
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Yeah its the same Crapdragon as the one found in the AT&T ****rocket.
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Provided by SK Telecom, wiki says they are CDMA based provider not GSM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom
If some people think there is lag on the Note with the 1.4Ghz Exynos they'll really think it lags with the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon.
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No exynos though.
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Which means it uses Qualcomm S3 which means will likely support T-Mobile band. Great.
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If some people think there is lag on the Note with the 1.4Ghz Exynos they'll really think it lags with the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon.
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I doubt it'll be a problem if you root and get rid of the bloats and after developers get rid of Carrier IQ.
Questions is who's selling their 1.4hz to get the new 1.5hz. I know Im really looking at getting this one as soon as it becomes available in the us. EBAY here i come...
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getmouse said:
Questions is who's selling their 1.4hz to get the new 1.5hz. I know Im really looking at getting this one as soon as it becomes available in the us. EBAY here i come...
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Unless your in an LTE market that this Korean Note will work on and you have an Unlimited data plan there's no reason to get it. The 1.5Ghz Snapdragon is slower than the 1.4Ghz Exynos in the current non-LTE Note. It's slower than the 1.2Ghz Exynos in the SGS2 and people have commented on how the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Skyrocket which also uses the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon isn't as snappy as the SGS2.
Hold on you know what we should try first, the modem file. Lol
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Twohothardware said:
Unless your in an LTE market that this Korean Note will work on and you have an Unlimited data plan there's no reason to get it. The 1.5Ghz Snapdragon is slower than the 1.4Ghz Exynos in the current non-LTE Note. It's slower than the 1.2Ghz Exynos in the SGS2 and people have commented on how the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Skyrocket which also uses the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon isn't as snappy as the SGS2.
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I know but Im looking at the fact that Im a t-mobile user with 3 phones on a family plan and Wish my note worked on t-mobile 4g. And I didn't have to run to at&t for service.
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oka1 said:
To All who are interested (TMO ppl) The South Korean Note is scheduled to be released on 11-29-11. This will be a variant of the Euro version and is scheduled to have penta-band capability (1700/2100) It also is a LTE version capable of 42 mb d/l (theoretically) You can read more here:
http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/24/sk-telecom-to-release-galaxy-note-in-south-korea/
This will be the version that is supposed to be compatible with T-Mobile USA.
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If it is Korean wont it be 29-11-11?
seepage said:
If it is Korean wont it be 29-11-11?
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Cute Touche' Does anyone Know a Korean a website in English they have run into for ordering from the USA
As far as the snapdragon being slow, remember I have tried both chips and unless you are a gamer it is not that noticeable of an issue especially, when new roms start rolling out.
Has anybody found out what bands this new Galaxy Note from Korea will support I can't find anything.
I heard all bands, 1700 aswell.
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anyone know if it'll come with nfc?
Not really worried about NFC yet until more stuff works with it I just want it to work with T-Mobile
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Another problem I just thought of is that Korea is kinda locked down its going to be hard as hell trying to get a phone internationally shipped but I may be wrong
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Samsung Galaxy SIII inbound for At&t, official coming soon page

Here it is. Hopefully the SIII will start shipping this month at some point.
http://www.att.com/galaxysiii/?#fbid=HTbkKrPm8LU
Nice. I tried telling an AT&T rep that ill be available this summer and he kept saying no itll be next year.. Pretty sad when a common John knows more than a "committed, seasoned rep"
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And also even told him that it would be dumb-downed to dual core and he insisted quad core.. Smh. Maybe ill apply for a job there and take all of his customers haha.
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JxWayne89 said:
And also even told him that it would be dumb-downed to dual core and he insisted quad core.. Smh. Maybe ill apply for a job there and take all of his customers haha.
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Not dumbed down. Nothing wrong with dual core with superior architecture
I wonder how the dev support on this bad boy is going to be
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I just checked out the specs on PhoneArena .. impressive .. 4.8" 720 .. 32GB built-in WITH (and I must bold that WITH since the HTC One X doesn't have) .. microSDHC/XC support to 64GB more .. wahoooooo
However, in the radio information .. doesn't state anything about LTE !!!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-AT-T_id7131
EDIT: whoops .. it states it in the description about the phone in regards to LTE support. Wonder why they didn't list in it the frequency listings !!
Hopefully AT&T follows suit with the others and announces the June 21st release.
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Here it is. Hopefully the SIII will start shipping this month at some point.
http://www.att.com/galaxysiii/?#fbid=HTbkKrPm8LU
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I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm very excited for this. The whole skyrocket community needs to jump ship for the s3. I'm pre ordering as soon as I can. I've been saving my upgrade just for this! I just hate leaving such an amazing community!
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I'm wondering if I'm going to flash anything on the s3. Sammy packed some damn nice software into this one!
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Why is this post in SII forum? There is a forum dedicated for SIII.
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WIZARDfan said:
Why is this post in SII forum? There is a forum dedicated for SIII.
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You I'm the resident troll not you and even I know why its here so quit being a pain
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WIZARDfan said:
Why is this post in SII forum? There is a forum dedicated for SIII.
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Cuz
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Huh? AT&T to release a red s3? That I gotta see.
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Honestly seems a bit weak for a such a huge release for AT&T... Not only did they cut the quad and went with a dual core processor for LTE, they also cut the internal storage. Sure, the processor has better architecture and has more ram, but worth it...? I wouldn't entirely think so.
Fortune090 said:
Honestly seems a bit weak for a such a huge release for AT&T... Not only did they cut the quad and went with a dual core processor for LTE, they also cut the internal storage. Sure, the processor has better architecture and has more ram, but worth it...? I wouldn't entirely think so.
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They had to cut the quad. Everyone did.
BaconStep said:
They had to cut the quad. Everyone did.
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I know, but still, just saddening...
This also makes me sad:
Thought Gorilla Glass was damn-near indestructible? Remember them doing similar drop tests with the original GSII and the screen didn't crack at all...
Fortune090 said:
Honestly seems a bit weak for a such a huge release for AT&T... Not only did they cut the quad and went with a dual core processor for LTE, they also cut the internal storage. Sure, the processor has better architecture and has more ram, but worth it...? I wouldn't entirely think so.
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Because right now the quad core is not LTE friendly.
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xlazaruzx said:
Because right now the quad core is not LTE friendly.
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Lol, I know. Hence the "went with a dual core processor for LTE."
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Not worth the upgrade...
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SIII US release announced

Post on Samsung US Facebook page with link to press release. 5 major carriers beginning June.
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where is it?
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA
Can't find it.
nevermind
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
T-Mobile Announces Galaxy S III Retail Availability For June 21st
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Post on Samsung US Facebook page with link to press release. 5 major carriers beginning June.
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My Sources tell me that it is not the first of June, but more on the 21st.
quad core?
The Samsung Galaxy S® III is optimized for peak performance on the nation’s fastest 4G LTE and HSPA+ networks, and will launch with AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular.
Its says HSPA+, which equal non 4g right. Maybe quad core for some American carriers.
I think Samsung will make them Quad-Core all of them.
Also the designs will NOT be tampered like the past 2 Galaxy S Variants. We can probably guess that T-Mobile will be one of the better carriers to include it (highest selling) as the other carriers have iPhones and the release of the new one right around the corner will even out the GS3 sales.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
I think Samsung will make them Quad-Core all of them.
Also the designs will NOT be tampered like the past 2 Galaxy S Variants. We can probably guess that T-Mobile will be one of the better carriers to include it (highest selling) as the other carriers have iPhones and the release of the new one right around the corner will even out the GS3 sales.
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Actually I'm pretty sure all the us versions are going to be dual core
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Actually I'm pretty sure all the us versions are going to be dual core
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Yea, sadly I'm thinking the same ^^;;
But on a main note....God I'm excited! Though, I'm already kinda missing my vibrant :'(
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Actually I'm pretty sure all the us versions are going to be dual core
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I dunno if the variants are LTE compatible must be quad core.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
I dunno if the variants are LTE compatible must be quad core.
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Dual core for everyone
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/sams...or-five-us-carriers-begins-launching-in-june/
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Usa gs3 selling for $500

Anybody got ideas why this price drop?($150 less than the international version)
We handle our currency differently than Europe. Our dollars are less than euros so it translates to more money to import it.
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He said selling for less not more. we have different hardware and therefore different costs for one. second the phone is well into production now. where did you find the us version for 500? also the t-mobile version has the same chipset as the skyrocket that sells for 330. the us s3 is overpriced and i expect sudden drastic price drops. Its being subsidized for 150 + contract for a reason.
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He said selling for less not more. we have different hardware and therefore different costs for one. second the phone is well into production now. where did you find the us version for 500? also the t-mobile version has the same chipset as the skyrocket that sells for 330. the us s3 is overpriced and i expect sudden drastic price drops. Its being subsidized for 150 + contract for a reason.
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this info is inaccurate. the skyrocket has s3 chip and tmobile sg3 has s4 chip
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this info is inaccurate. the skyrocket has s3 chip and tmobile sg3 has s4 chip
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Msm8260 right? or msm8260a. they clock close. do you think the t mobile s3 radio/ modem may work on the skyrocket?
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Msm8260 right? or msm8260a. they clock close. do you think the t mobile s3 radio/ modem may work on the skyrocket?
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they are two completely different chips based on different. technology. if anyone is confused go to qualcomm website. the only difference. between the s4 chips including the 8260a is the modem chip. as far as flashing those modems i dont know... try it and find out just have odin ready
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they are two completely different chips based on different. technology. if anyone is confused go to qualcomm website. the only difference. between the s4 chips including the 8260a is the modem chip. as far as flashing those modems i dont know... try it and find out just have odin ready
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Interesting, im going to continue looking into it. Wonder why theyre using the same model number. Doesnt the t-mobile version clock less? I have the 747 and the 727 skyrocket in front of me. The skyrocket benches 3600 quadrant and 6000 astute. Not sure if these similar scores to the t-mobile variant are due to different resolution. Skyrocket is Qualcomm 1.5 dual core.
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Interesting, im going to continue looking into it. Wonder why theyre using the same model number. Doesnt the t-mobile version clock less? I have the 747 and the 727 skyrocket in front of me. The skyrocket benches 3600 quadrant and 6000 astute. Not sure if these similar scores to the t-mobile variant are due to different resolution. Skyrocket is Qualcomm 1.5 dual core.
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if your talking the tmobile gs2 it is the same as skyrocket a snapdragon s3 chip. the tmobile gs3 is a completely. different snapdragon s4 chip. which i get about 5000 on quadrent both chips are clocked at 1.5 but the s4 chip uses a newer technology. which makes it faster and more efficient
The T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T GSIIIs are not using the MSM8260a. They use the MSM8960 Krait chipset. I am unsure of the Sprint because I can't find the specs. I am pretty sure it utilized the MSM8960 as well. The MSM8960 has been shown to keep up with the current Quad-Core processors. Mainly, the Nvidia Tegra 3 chipset. If you do a Vellamo benchmark, you will see that it scores very close to the HTC One XL which uses the same chipset and beats the One X which is Quad. The GSII 4G and Skyrocket both had the MSM8260 Scorpion chipset. S4 stands for nothing more than Series 4.
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The T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T GSIIIs are not using the MSM8260a. They use the MSM8960 Krait chipset. I am unsure of the Sprint because I can't find the specs. I am pretty sure it utilized the MSM8960 as well. The MSM8960 has been shown to keep up with the current Quad-Core processors. Mainly, the Nvidia Tegra 3 chipset. If you do a Vellamo benchmark, you will see that it scores very close to the HTC One XL which uses the same chipset and beats the One X which is Quad. The GSII 4G and Skyrocket both had the MSM8260 Scorpion chipset. S4 stands for nothing more than Series 4.
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the msm8260a is the hspa+ version of the s4. the MSM8960. js the lte verion of the s4
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all the info is readily available on qualcomm website
Where did you see the phobe for $500
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bmoreboy02 said:
Where did you see the phobe for $500
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Craiglist the 16gb tmobile for 500 and 550
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the msm8260a is the hspa+ version of the s4. the MSM8960. js the lte verion of the s4
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all the info is readily available on qualcomm website
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This phone is using the S4 Krait MSM8960 for sure. Its not using the S3. That was for the GS2 ans Skyrocket. Get your facts straight bro.
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Serious_Beans said:
This phone is using the S4 Krait MSM8960 for sure. Its not using the S3. That was for the GS2 ans Skyrocket. Get your facts straight bro.
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Yeah that was said like four time like five hours ago with a lot more substance.
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Serious_Beans said:
This phone is using the S4 Krait MSM8960 for sure. Its not using the S3. That was for the GS2 ans Skyrocket. Get your facts straight bro.
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im not sure what fact is incorrect...... bro
How is this price surprising when you can buy ATT GS3 off contract from Amazon for $550
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im not sure what fact is incorrect...... bro
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Our phones are using the same soc every other us variant is using S4 krait msm8960
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rakeshchn said:
How is this price surprising when you can buy ATT GS3 off contract from Amazon for $550
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Amazon says backorder.
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Our phones are using the same soc every other us variant is using S4 krait msm8960
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never said it wasnt... simply stated qualcomm makes three versions of the s4 krait chip the 8260a and the 8960 are both s4 krait chips.
S4 krait dubbed msm8260a bro, get your facts straight. Its the model # that been causing confusion.
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Some help before buying?

Hello, at the end of the month I'm playing in buying this phone, I've seen you can get the i9500, I9502, i9505 I'm not sureif there's any more, what's the difference? Cheers
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9500 is the exynos 8 core without LTE
9502 is the dual sim version
9505 is the snapdragon SD6000 quad core with LTE
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Lte is 4g right? So the i9500 doesn't have 4g? Is the i9505 the best without duel sim?
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calum96 said:
Lte is 4g right? So the i9500 doesn't have 4g? Is the i9505 the best without duel sim?
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Yup. 9500 doesn't have 4G.
9500 is better than 9505 (if 4G is not a factor); Exynos 8 core, wolfson DAC and (some said) better camera sensor.
However, if 4G matters to you, go with the 9505. The difference is not a lot.
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But the processor on the i9505 is 1.9 instead of 1.4? :S also does the i9500 have 2Gb of ram? I rang the guy at the shop and they said the phone had 4G capabilities? :S haha! Thanks for your help guys
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calum96 said:
But the processor on the i9505 is 1.9 instead of 1.4? :S also does the i9500 have 2Gb of ram? I rang the guy at the shop and they said the phone had 4G capabilities? :S haha! Thanks for your help guys
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1) Different architectures (Krait for the 9505, A15/A7 for the 9500), so the frequency isn't directly convertible to speed. The 9505 is clocked at 1.9GHz, and the 9500 is clocked at 1.6GHz (1.2GHz for the small A7 cores)
2) All Galaxy S4 models have 2GB of RAM.
3) Some telcos call HSPA+ "4G", despite it being more properly called "3.75G". BTW, LTE is also not officially 4G: that would be only for LTE Advanced, with downlink exceeding 1Gbps. If you want the "4G" people are getting excited about now, that would be LTE, supported only by the 9505 among international S4 models.
So the standard one is 1.6ghz? Really was looking forward to 4G, can't find the i9505 on contract though :/ unless anyone knows how to get them? So might end up buying an unlocked i9505
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