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October 6th:
Im working on the website now for us. I'll be changing this thread from "gauging interest" to the "development thread" for users of the portal to post comments and such on this thread.
a good idea my friend, but a question:
A webpage containing info for herald users, or a kind of startportal with links?
If so, that is a good idea, because there is portals, like htc's one, but it sucks big time, there is never any new stuff there, and the links provided is not so good.
I have done alot of webdesign myself, but im a better graphics designer then a coder so if you need help, just say so
Great idea, am also a web page designer and would be glad to update the page with new links as they found.
A few basics to start with would be good such as:
blogs in mobile version (engadgetmobile,gizmodo,msmobiles,modaco...)
not sure if its possible but some sort of e-mail client would be nice such as google has done with their homepage.
ofcourse you can't forget to add your fav vidz for the week or month (or atleast what you would type to search cuz everyone uses their own means for viewing videos)
of course everyone would love to see some apps on there (i'm guessing if this became widespread you could only add freeware)
the main one would be a link to the herald forum here on xda dev (im sure i ain't the only who would use this)
Thats all I can think of now, keep us updated and I'll b glad to help with anything that I can.
Great idea btw
cheers
Yes, more of a portal idea.
I'll get to work on it tonight!
Please share links you believe would be of value to have in this portal.
Suggestions anyone?
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Great idea, am also a web page designer and would be glad to update the page with new links as they found.
A few basics to start with would be good such as:
blogs in mobile version (engadgetmobile,gizmodo,msmobiles,modaco...)
not sure if its possible but some sort of e-mail client would be nice such as google has done with their homepage.
ofcourse you can't forget to add your fav vidz for the week or month (or atleast what you would type to search cuz everyone uses their own means for viewing videos)
of course everyone would love to see some apps on there (i'm guessing if this became widespread you could only add freeware)
the main one would be a link to the herald forum here on xda dev (im sure i ain't the only who would use this)
Thats all I can think of now, keep us updated and I'll b glad to help with anything that I can.
Great idea btw
cheers
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I second those ideas! Joystiq.com blog would be awesome.
I can offer you webspace so you don't have to use your school's server. I can also register a domain. Let me know if you need anything. Send me a PM and we can discuss things. Good idea you have there.
id like to built a small, only herald based forum. if you got a webspace with php imma do my best to get a fresh designed mobile device board
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I can offer you webspace so you don't have to use your school's server. I can also register a domain. Let me know if you need anything. Send me a PM and we can discuss things. Good idea you have there.
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Sounds good man!!!
Can you rigester .com's?
In this event, I'd like to leave suggestions open for website ideas..
www.HTCPortal.com?
Whats nice is, this could be used by ALL browsers of XDA, not just us Herald guys.
Tha1nonly,
If you would like to design a forum that will run in 320x240 that we can post messages from our device, that would be AWESOME! Let me know what you plan on doing with that, and I'll be sure to include the link in my portal.
Yes, of course. Send me a PM
Hi again guys,
We were just wondering,
Do you know any GOOD, USEFUL books, tutorials, materials about promoting apps and development brand that you could recommend?
If you know, lets make a 'library'! Share a link, some info etc.
Nothing? Anyone?
We know this one, hope it helps:
http://www.amazon.com/Android-Apps-Marketing-Secrets-Biz-Tech/dp/0789746336
C'mon, you gotta know something!
I would use http://DroidTweak.com they own http://fb.com/AndroidFans
stilv said:
I would use http://DroidTweak.com they own http://fb.com/AndroidFans
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I will take a look about them tonight... would rather not spend money but, if their service proves to be good... might go for it.
PhilCals said:
I will take a look about them tonight... would rather not spend money but, if their service proves to be good... might go for it.
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contact [email protected] for the latest promo's
This might be interesting: http://droid-blog.net/category/aso-2/
great
thay you guys for the links :laugh:
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Nothing? Anyone?
We know this one, hope it helps:
http://www.amazon.com/Android-Apps-Marketing-Secrets-Biz-Tech/dp/0789746336
C'mon, you gotta know something!
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Attention, one comment on Amazon says that this book was badly port from Apple App Store to Google Play.
Exchange Reviews with other developers
Lets face it, become successful on Google Play market is nothing easy, yes you need a very unique app but you also need a good marketing campaign in order to get enough downloads and a good rating, most indie developers can't afford that. But wait... there are many apps submitted everyday to android market, that means there are many developers trying to show their own apps, so that means... we are a lot.
Why not help us each others?
Join AndroidKi community and Exchange reviews with other developers!
How it works?
In order to submit your app to get reviewed, you need to review other 3 apps too. Each review gives you 5 AndroidKi points, you need 15 to submit your app. Simple, effective and SEO friendly.
AndroidKi[.]com
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If you are just starting out, I suggest you to read this blog post: http://www.techibiz.com/2/post/2013/02/the-app-developers-checklist.html
For more posts, go to the section on mobile apps where there are posts of various categories like app store optimization, marketing, promotion etc. Here is the link to all other posts: www.techibiz.com/mobile-apps.html
Akshat
Community help with marketing
Here on XDA I have seen many members collaborate which is great. Nobody is perfect but we can combine our knowledge and create something which is really amazing. This is one of the reasons I like XDA for. :good:
Currently there are threads for developers who are looking for testers, translators and designers.
However, it is a shame if we create fantastic apps and nobody is downloading them.
To bring the collaboration to the next level I set up this thread.
Developers, here are your marketing experts.
This thread is divided into different sections for different purposes.
If you want to participate, send me a PM with a link to your profile and tell me what you are skilled in. I will add you to the list.
Search Engine Optimization (SEO):
Your app needs to be found using search.
Waiting for you to be the first one...
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Demo videos and screenshots:
If you present your app in an app store, the first thing in addition to the description your consumers see are the screenshots and the demo video. Providing a demo video is a huge advantage. It is one of the best opportunities to present your app to your costumer.
Mrtoxicgamer10
Waiting for you to be the second one...
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App reviews:
One of the most important criteria for the user will be app recommendations and reviews on websites. So here is a list of people with app review sites:
kornett (http://androidki.com)
out of ideas (http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php)
Hectopixel (http://www.appdorado.com)
More to come...
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(Check out this thread as well: Beam me Up Scotty !)
Reserved.
Big thanks to @QuantumFoam for the idea. :good:
By the way, if you have got ideas for new categories, tell me.
Cheers. This will help us app developers a lot
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Yooo man you always come up with something special for us Developers...
Cheers!!
Really great idea and something i could do with right about now! Hope this goes to plan
Cheers
If I have the time, I'll see if I can write up a more comprehensive marketing guide covering the pricing and promotion strategies and aspects of marketing. Both are really important, especially for this market, and quite a few times I've seen apps that seem to have potential hindered by a not-so-smart/appropriate pricing/promotion strategy that the dev have in place :/
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If I have the time, I'll see if I can write up a more comprehensive marketing guide covering the pricing and promotion strategies and aspects of marketing. Both are really important, especially for this market, and quite a few times I've seen apps that seem to have potential hindered by a not-so-smart/appropriate pricing/promotion strategy that the dev have in place :/
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Would be amazing! :good:
Added app reviews category.
Exchange Reviews with other developers
Today Android marketing is very expensive right now, so why not a review exchange?
androidki[.]com
Androidki is a exchange review web totally for free, your app can be reviewed by the web authors and also by other users in the web.
Also reviews are schema.org standarized so the reviews will also appear on google results
Best of luck with your android app!
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Today Android marketing is very expensive right now, so why not a review exchange?
androidki[.]com
Androidki is a exchange review web totally for free, your app can be reviewed by the web authors and also by other users in the web.
Also reviews are schema.org standarized so the reviews will also appear on google results
Best of luck with your android app!
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Looks like a cool website. Thanks.
I will add it.
(Sorry for not answering before. I was not at home, so I was unable to answer.)
Thank you! It is hard marketing an app! Specially when there is SO MANY!! This is a very helpful subject
Gabilheri said:
Thank you! It is hard marketing an app! Specially when there is SO MANY!! This is a very helpful subject
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Yeah, I hope that there will be more people participating.
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Yeah, I hope that there will be more people participating.
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Well I guess I'll toss my hat into the ring for some more reviews.
I'm doing a little android blog/review thing. It's in VERY early beta and i'm playing with it everyday so it'll be changing plenty.
http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php
That's the reviews page, I already got a few big apps up, and bunch more I have to upload.
Basically its gonna be the standard bigger apps, and I want to have a good section focusing on the smaller and indie developers. Give some love back to XDA and all that.
Every little bit helps, so if you need a review feel free to message me on here or mail me at [email protected]
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Well I guess I'll toss my hat into the ring for some more reviews.
I'm doing a little android blog/review thing. It's in VERY early beta and i'm playing with it everyday so it'll be changing plenty.
http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php
That's the reviews page, I already got a few big apps up, and bunch more I have to upload.
Basically its gonna be the standard bigger apps, and I want to have a good section focusing on the smaller and indie developers. Give some love back to XDA and all that.
Every little bit helps, so if you need a review feel free to message me on here or mail me at [email protected]
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Thanks a lot.
Added. :good:
Great idea, I just sent an app for review to the links you provided. Thanks!
instalatorapp.co.nr
Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.
Hartok said:
Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.
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Yeah, that's right. I hope that more people will be participating.
Thanks!
Thanks for this great thread! I have sent a link for Review to androidsexplained of my game Number Play Free on google playstore. This game is published by Kjas Labs.
It is a Educational Brain Game suitable for all age groups.
Mispost
Hartok said:
Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.
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Seeing your avatar, I guess that it is Feed the Sheep.
if i have an android phone, am i allowed to download and rate my own apps? or is this against google play policy?
Ive searched around and cant find any solid answer.
the reason i am asking is because if i upload a new app and give a 5 star rating, it will drastically increase its visibility in the Google play store.
anyone have any experience with this? because i do not want to risk getting my dev account suspended for something as stupid as a couple of 5 star ratings (multiple apps).
This is a good question, why not create a new Google account, and rate your app?
What is the name of your app? I can rate it for you.
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TheGTS said:
This is a good question, why not create a new Google account, and rate your app?
What is the name of your app? I can rate it for you.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
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I believe that rating your app from a different account is not very honest, but you can do it. But you have to install the app and Google has a way of detecting fake reviews (e.g. coming from a combination of same device/same IP address).
Also a completely different story is rating your app from your dev. account - I believe it is possible because you have the app INSTALLED, but I did not have the guts to click on the review icon
To be honest one review will not affect anything...usually reviews are taken seriously with couple thousand downloads on the app.. at which point your own review wouldnt even matter...
AppDevProject said:
To be honest one review will not affect anything...usually reviews are taken seriously with couple thousand downloads on the app.. at which point your own review wouldnt even matter...
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Well, good ratings are one of the factors which place your app at the top of the search results. If your rating was the first one, it could have a serious impact. But asking your friends might be better.
Not sure if it's against policy, but as mentioned above - it's not very honest.
Do you really need to rate your own apps? Are they not good enough or enticing enough to make others rate it legitimately?
Very good points. Get family and friends to rate your app.
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tomed said:
Not sure if it's against policy, but as mentioned above - it's not very honest.
Do you really need to rate your own apps? Are they not good enough or enticing enough to make others rate it legitimately?
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You need to get some ratings quickly. Especially when you are zero budget indie. Even if you don't appear in Top games/apps it still influences the search rankings. E.g. when I released my game Mr. Dandelion, I ranked so low, I had to scroll down very far. Searching for "Dandelion game" I was ranked as 21. I managed to get some friends, family and fellow Indie developers to rate it and it bumped me to place 10. Now my goal is to appear on the first page after searching for "Dandelion". Unfortunately there's a million live wallpapers about dandelions
Are politicians allowed to vote for themselves? Of course! Rating your own app isn't that dishonest and won't have a real impact. Creating more accounts to rate your app is definitely dishonest (and probably doesn't pay off anyway). Writing reviews for your own app without disclosing that you made the app is shady imho.
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Are politicians allowed to vote for themselves? Of course! Rating your own app isn't that dishonest and won't have a real impact. Creating more accounts to rate your app is definitely dishonest (and probably doesn't pay off anyway). Writing reviews for your own app without disclosing that you made the app is shady imho.
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And since when are politicians honest :laugh:
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And since when are politicians honest :laugh:
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Touché! :good:
Personally, I've only gone as far as +1 and sharing my own app. Like others have said previously, in the long run, rating your own app won't have a major impact increasing visibility, but you SHOULD encourage your friends/users to rate it so it begins to be noticed by Google's search algorithm.
I just reread Google's Developer Distribution Agreement[1] and Developer Content Policy[2] and found the two places where they mention app ratings.
Neither of the terms say a developer can't rate their own apps. But, I have more to say after the quotes...
In the Developer Distribution Agreement:
"4.9 Product Ratings. The Market will allow users to rate Products. Only users who download the applicable Product will be able to rate it. Product ratings will be used to determine the placement of Products on the Market with higher rated Products generally given better placement, subject to Google's ability to change placement at Google's sole discretion. The Market may also assign you a composite score for any Product that has not received user ratings. A Developer Composite Score will be a representation of the quality of your Product based on your history and will be determined at Google's sole discretion. For new Developers without Product history, Google may use or publish performance measurements such as uninstall and/or refund rates to identify or remove Products that are not meeting acceptable standards, as determined by Google. Google reserves the right to display Products to users in a manner that will be determined at Google's sole discretion."
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In the Developer Content Policy:
"Developers must not attempt to change the placement of any Product in the Store, or manipulate any product ratings or reviews, by unauthorized means such as fraudulent installs, paid or fake reviews or ratings, or by offering incentives to rate products."
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I take it from these two policies that is is okay for you to rate and review your own app. But, creating a new account, then installing the app to rate it would be considered a fraudulent install. So, don't do that. There are many websites (and spam emails I get every week) that break these policies and if you use any of them, then you are risking your development account and apps.
Another note: You can not buy your own apps from Google Play, therefore you can not rate or review your own paid apps either. The error message you will get when trying to buy your own app is "Your order was cancelled because you can't buy from yourself."
Though, personally, I have never rated any of my apps. And, I don't ask my closest friends to rate all my apps, just in case Google is trying to link accounts together (they do have the ability).
Your best bet is to create apps that people truly want. I have an app in the market now with over 100k installs without doing any real marketing. I guess people just like it that much. Though, I do believe in my app, and if I actually advertised it, then I could probably get 2-10x more daily installs.
(As a new user with less than 10 posts, I can't post outside links yet.)
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Code:
play.google.com/about/developer-distribution-agreement .html
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play.google.com/about/developer-content-policy .html
I am a new developer and this is quite informative. I want to ask the other way. If someone is intentionally giving bad rating to your app, how do u track it? If there is no "Google +" account who has rated the app, it will say "A google user" only.
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I am a new developer and this is quite informative. I want to ask the other way. If someone is intentionally giving bad rating to your app, how do u track it? If there is no "Google +" account who has rated the app, it will say "A google user" only.
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If the comment is obviously mean and unhelpful you could try to report it to Google and hope for the best.
I usually respond to the comment on the console. Users don't mind bad comments as long as we take actions.
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If the comment is obviously mean and unhelpful you could try to report it to Google and hope for the best.
I usually respond to the comment on the console. Users don't mind bad comments as long as we take actions.
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But then, when you have unhelpful comments, reply to them in the console, report them to Google after not getting any response, and then nothing happens, you know you just have to live with them.
On OP's topic, I have reviewed my own app, as I think it is very good at what it does, so I want to support it with my vote. Is that not a fair review?
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Another note: You can not buy your own apps from Google Play, therefore you can not rate or review your own paid apps either. The error message you will get when trying to buy your own app is "Your order was cancelled because you can't buy from yourself."
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I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to add some relevant information here for future viewers, considering I found this post and used it for information too. While you can't buy your own apps, you can create a promotion in the developer console, and use a promo code to give the app to yourself. I've done this for my own apps, and it worked successfully.
Nothing wrong with giving your app a decent first rating to kick things off. Remember that reviews and ratings are a useful tool to find out what people like or dislike about your app, and often offer guidance on how to improve it. Read it, digest it, and let the guys giving feedback know that you're doing something about it.
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
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Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
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The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
Hello there,
I have a few things
Firstly when will there be a update as there are many bugs on the device
Secondly do you guys plan to support this device in the long term.
Sent from my NX659J using Tapatalk
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
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The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
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Any chance this update will include the ability to use an alternate launcher (eg. Nova Launcher)?
About the Pulse version
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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I heard that the Pulse version used to have problems like flickering and shut downs because of the incompatibility between the rom and its hardware (RAM and storage). I want to ask if it's fixed in the new batch of stock that have just arrived and what version of the rom it's on. Thank you.
@Veroxious
Hi, as a pulse owner I can answer your question.
I have the EU version and am on 4.05 and don't have the problems your mentioning here.
It's solid and the only "problems" I have are the few missing software parts like the battery stats / percentage and the disappearing status bar.
Other then that I don't have any problems and I use my phone a lot (during the day for work (80%) and private (20%) and after work I play some games, watch YouTube etc...
@JerryYin please allow use of alternate launchers like Nova and release kernel sources so development can be better
@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
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@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
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Probably by Friday
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Probably by Friday
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He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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Jerry
lanoblesse said:
He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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He says NA and European are the same rom.
Crossing fingers for a Software Update
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Probably by Friday
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The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
neo9596 said:
Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
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Some bug fix and new features will comes with the new security patch
enzone17 said:
The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
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It will add in future updates.
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Probably by Friday
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Today is Friday :fingers-crossed: And probably not but definitely :angel:
Global ROMs have arrived guys!
Check the ROM/DEV section
@JerryYin I would like to ask about Screen projection function,
I would like to do screen projection to PC but when I choose PC , it open QR Code scan and suggest to download Lebo screen projection client, so where can I download this program?
Regards