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whether you can put the firmware in i337 from i9505 ?

riven60 said:
whether you can put the firmware in i337 from i9505 ?
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What?
Are you asking if you can flash i9505 firmware on to the i337?
If so answer is not until the bootloader is unlocked, then you will likely need to flash a custom i9505 ROM and everything 'should' work but it would not be guaranteed.
Short answer, not yet.
(If you have an AT&T i337 uour bootloader is locked, Canadian i337's are not)

Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.

Jonnyredcorn said:
Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.
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The international ROMs work great as long as you flash an i337 loki'd kernel directly afterwards. The kernels and modems are incompatible, but the international ROMs are absolutely recommended to avoid the AT&T garbage (and get updates)

Jonnyredcorn said:
Now that Loki has been released, would it be safe to flash a i9505 custom ROM as long as a Loki'd kernel is flashed immediately afterward?
If that is possible, would anything need to be done for the radios to work properly for mobile data 3g/4g?
Also, I found this thread by searching...it was the only thread that came up, although I thought this would be a big deal for the community being able to flash international ROM's across all devices.
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Radios are not included in ROMs for compatibility reasons.
The kernel needs to have loki patch applied so just grab a kernel from the AT&T threads (TW for stock or touch wiz ROMS and AOSP for CM or AOKP based ROMs.)
I'm on Wanam lite and everything works.....though I get force closes every so often (probably something I've done not the ROM's fault)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

I9505 firmware on AT&T S4?

Hi
I wanted to know- is it possible to run the original I9505 firmware on the AT&T Galaxy S4?
Let's say i really don't care about LTE, and going to use only HSDPA data. Should there be any problems doing this?

Yes, I did a tmo stock on att no problem. So the i9505 will run on att also.
Good luck.

TheAxman said:
Yes, I did a tmo stock on att no problem. So the i9505 will run on att also.
Good luck.
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U didnt Odin install it did you? Im assuming you installed it from CWM.

TheAxman said:
Yes, I did a tmo stock on att no problem. So the i9505 will run on att also.
Good luck.
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Could you provide more details? Did you use odin to flash, or some other way?
What i', asking is about full stock i9505 firmware, no modded kernels and whatnot.

Pika007 said:
Could you provide more details? Did you use odin to flash, or some other way?
What i', asking is about full stock i9505 firmware, no modded kernels and whatnot.
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You can only flash official firmware for your specific device with odin. If you want to flash a rom based on the firmware of the i905 or t-mo then you need to flash using a custom recovery. Twrp or cwm
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium

Is there any benefit on getting the I9505?

Just wanted to know if there is any benefit in getting the S4 I9505 when it comes to flashing roms?
It's unlocked so I know that's one good thing but is there any difference from just getting the regular ATT version? Thanks...

Its more expensive. Lol.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

9505 is unlocked, att us not.

LuRock said:
Just wanted to know if there is any benefit in getting the S4 I9505 when it comes to flashing roms?
It's unlocked so I know that's one good thing but is there any difference from just getting the regular ATT version? Thanks...
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Absolutely. The bootloader is unlocked therefore you can flash any kernel (I9505), any roms, modems, firmwares without any worries. However I dont think the I9505 supports at&t's LTE but I may be wrong so dont quote me on that.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

barondebxl said:
Absolutely. The bootloader is unlocked therefore you can flash any kernel (I9505), any roms, modems, firmwares without any worries. However I dont think the I9505 supports at&t's LTE but I may be wrong so dont quote me on that.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks I was trying to decide which to go with, I was being offered both I337 and I9505 but the 9505 was dented at the bottom bezel. Oh well I went with the 337 and im now rooted and ready to flash away
S4 I337

LuRock said:
Thanks I was trying to decide which to go with, I was being offered both I337 and I9505 but the 9505 was dented at the bottom bezel. Oh well I went with the 337 and im now rooted and ready to flash away
S4 I337
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I have tested all of the roms that will work with the I337..in my guide.

TheAxman said:
I have tested all of the roms that will work with the I337..in my guide.
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In that case what do you recommend? Winamlite or Infamous? I usually try the TW roms before heading to aosp.
Im not an addict I just flash a lot.

LuRock said:
In that case what do you recommend? Winamlite or Infamous? I usually try the TW roms before heading to aosp.
Im not an addict I just flash a lot.
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Omega rom all day everyday.

LuRock said:
In that case what do you recommend? Winamlite or Infamous? I usually try the TW roms before heading to aosp.
Im not an addict I just flash a lot.
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I have tried many that are solid..Omega is what I run. Wanam is outstanding..Wicked is good.
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barondebxl said:
Omega rom all day everyday.
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+1

TheAxman said:
I have tried many that are solid..Omega is what I run. Wanam is outstanding..Wicked is good.
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Thank u downloading Omega now!
S4 I337

LuRock said:
Thank u downloading Omega now!
S4 I337
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here you go, all the roms in one place...I have flashed every rom in my guide on att i337
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
enjoy.

LuRock said:
Thank u downloading Omega now!
S4 I337
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Also dont forget to flash Kastoonez kernel soon after flashing omega ( before rebooting).

barondebxl said:
Also dont forget to flash Kastoonez kernel soon after flashing omega ( before rebooting).
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Let me get this right, I can flash omega on attUS I337?
S4 I337

LuRock said:
Let me get this right, I can flash omega on attUS I337?
S4 I337
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Yes you can. BUT ( and this is very important), you need to flash Ktoonez kernel ( from the ATT forum) right before rebooting ( when youre done flashing omega its going to prompt you to reboot, make sure you uncheck reboot to go back to TWRP or CWM and then flash the kernel. We have to do this because the ATT S4 has a locked bootloader and uses a bypass called Loki. We need a Loki'd kernel in order to have roms from the I9505 to work properly on our phones.

barondebxl said:
Yes you can. BUT ( and this is very important), you need to flash Ktoonez kernel ( from the ATT forum) right before rebooting ( when youre done flashing omega its going to prompt you to reboot, make sure you uncheck reboot to go back to TWRP or CWM and then flash the kernel. We have to do this because the ATT S4 has a locked bootloader and uses a bypass called Loki. We need a Loki'd kernel in order to have roms from the I9505 to work properly on our phones.
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Thanks for all the info. So I only need a loki'd kernel for 9505 roms. What about when flashing the I337 roms? The stock kernel dont have to be loki'd considering I already bypassed it when I rooted with Casual loki+motochopper?
S4 I337

LuRock said:
Thanks for all the info. So I only need a loki'd kernel for 9505 roms. What about when flashing the I337 roms? The stock kernel dont have to be loki'd considering I already bypassed it when I rooted with Casual loki+motochopper?
S4 I337
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Every rom that you flash must be flashed with loki-doki afterwards unless the rom itself is already Loki'd. You'll in each rom thread whether it is loki'd or not. If it is then you're fine just flashing the rom, if it isn't then you must flash loki-doki. Here it is
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/files/loki-doki.zip
Make sure you read the installation for each and every rom and don't hesitate to ask in the thread itself if you're confused

barondebxl said:
Every rom that you flash must be flashed with loki-doki afterwards unless the rom itself is already Loki'd. You'll in each rom thread whether it is loki'd or not. If it is then you're fine just flashing the rom, if it isn't then you must flash loki-doki. Here it is
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/files/loki-doki.zip
Make sure you read the installation for each and every rom and don't hesitate to ask in the thread itself if you're confused
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Thanks baron! I see what you mean. I had not flashed since March when I was on the S3. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Damm bootloaders!!
Thanks again appreciate it..
S4 I337

LuRock said:
Thanks baron! I see what you mean. I had not flashed since March when I was on the S3. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Damm bootloaders!!
Thanks again appreciate it..
S4 I337
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You're welcome bro. Its because of ATT locking the bootloader that we have to go through this but still, thanks to the amazing devs we are able to flash things even with this locked bootloader. Have fun!

You can run more than just Omega.

TheAxman said:
You can run more than just Omega.
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I see that
S4 I337

[Q] Would I be able to use a I9505 rom for a I337m S4?

Hello,
Just as the title suggests I am curious if I am able to use a I9505 rom on a I337m S4? It seems that theoretically it would work considering the hardware is the exact same (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'm just curious if it were to work could I potentially run into issues with the baseband being different? Sorry I'm really new to this whole flashing thing
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
PhantomMango

Yes. I used foxhound for a while on my i337. I had to use an auto-loki recovery but you won't need to if you have an i337m. Just make a backup and don't flash i9500 roms.
Sent from Alpha S4 courtesy of Jamison904, mrimpossible, gharrington, tunasty and other great devs.

Really? I had a whole thread on this question lol well atleast someone answered it somewhere else. I had the impression you could not since i tried to flash a rom from the i9505 section and it did not boot after that. I had to use one from here , It didnt make much sense why they wouldnt be compatible in the first place. So you can use roms that are from i9505?? Maybe I had a bad flash ??

Did you flash a kernel from here right after flashing the rom? I would download a kernel and the loki-doki zip. Try the kernel first and if it doesn't boot, try Loki-doki zip then boot. Like I said, I used foxhound for about a month not one issue.
Sent from Alpha S4 courtesy of Jamison904, mrimpossible, gharrington, tunasty and other great devs.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

Wow thanks for the replies everyone!
But I just have some more questions, when choosing a custom ROM do they already come with a kernel or do I have to "supply" my own that made for my is particular carrier? And I assume it would just be trial and error to find out which kernels work best with a particular ROM. Or should I just use the custom Kernel that the ROM developer suggests since I337m has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks,
PhantomMango

Nanafy said:
Really? I had a whole thread on this question lol well atleast someone answered it somewhere else. I had the impression you could not since i tried to flash a rom from the i9505 section and it did not boot after that. I had to use one from here , It didnt make much sense why they wouldnt be compatible in the first place. So you can use roms that are from i9505?? Maybe I had a bad flash ??
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You may have run into these issues if you have the ATT i337 -- as posters above have said, you'll need to apply the loki patch or otherwise your device won't boot.
i337M (Canadian) users, to my understanding, should be able to flash i9505 ROMs as is, given the unlocked bootloader.

PhantomMango said:
Wow thanks for the replies everyone!
But I just have some more questions, when choosing a custom ROM do they already come with a kernel or do I have to "supply" my own that made for my is particular carrier? And I assume it would just be trial and error to find out which kernels work best with a particular ROM. Or should I just use the custom Kernel that the ROM developer suggests since I337m has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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I believe some stock kernels will work, not sure if all will. I used Omega on my i337m with KTs T-Mobile Kernel and it worked really well.

Thanks for the feedback so far,
But I just want to be 100% sure that I am able to flash this ROM on my phone after rooting. I am wanting to flash this ROM using this guide so can somebody again provide reassurance to me that this would work on my I337m phone and not brick it. I just don't want to cause any confusion with what I meant by custom ROM (In this case AOSP).
Thanks,
PhantomMango

I wouldn't follow guides outside of XDA. There are plenty here that have been proven to work. Read the ROM's OP and first/last 20 pages at least. Your're bootloader is unlocked so no loki-doki needed.
For Canadian, you want the TMO kernel from here--the TW Jellybean 4.3 one and follow flash instructions in KT's OP there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Always Nandroid before flashing new things and have sdcard backups on pc as well as the Nandroid
And if still uncertain--READ READ READ

rugmankc said:
I wouldn't follow guides outside of XDA. There are plenty here that have been proven to work. Read the ROM's OP and first/last 20 pages at least. Your're bootloader is unlocked so no loki-doki needed.
For Canadian, you want the TMO kernel from here--the TW Jellybean 4.3 one and follow flash instructions in KT's OP there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Always Nandroid before flashing new things and have sdcard backups on pc as well as the Nandroid
And if still uncertain--READ READ READ
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Thanks for the reply and for showing me a kernel I should be using. You have earned a thanks once it allows me to give thanks again :laugh:
Just one last question should I be worried about a unsecure root abd with that kernel?
Thanks,
PhantomMango

PhantomMango said:
Thanks for the reply and for showing me a kernel I should be using. You have earned a thanks once it allows me to give thanks again :laugh:
Just one last question should I be worried about a unsecure root abd with that kernel?
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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I don't know about unsecure root. But, again would root here, not off web--

rugmankc said:
I don't know about unsecure root. But, again would root here, not off web--
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Alright, and yea that's what I'm going to do its just that I was curious with that kernel you posted as that's one of the features
Thanks,
PhantomMango

PhantomMango said:
Alright, and yea that's what I'm going to do its just that I was curious with that kernel you posted as that's one of the features
Thanks,
PhantomMango
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Oh, OK then. I had heard that term and probably read about it. Just forgot. The kernel is OK for you. Just don't use his ATT ones. Just the TMO.

[Q] Galaxy S4 i337/i337m/i9505 ROM compatiblity

Just wondering about the safety of installing roms made for the i337 on the i337m or i9505. I recall reading a big thread on XDA talking about this earlier. Thanks.

I've got the i337m and I've never had a issue. On a i9505g Rom now. You can flash anything to anything as long as bootloader isn't locked
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tombeach22 said:
I've got the i337m and I've never had a issue. On a i9505g Rom now. You can flash anything to anything as long as bootloader isn't locked
Sent from my GT-I9505G using xda app-developers app
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Except Exynos?

jtl999 said:
Except Exynos?
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No exynos, correct.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Hyperdrive

Hi friends: as you know a 4.4.2 leak for SGH-I337 is on XDA, thanks to designgears. Actually, there is a .tar version, odin flashable. Can anyone tell me if this is compatible with unlocked canadian I337M and can be safely flashed?

guerouig said:
Hi friends: as you know a 4.4.2 leak for SGH-I337 is on XDA, thanks to designgears. Actually, there is a .tar version, odin flashable. Can anyone tell me if this is compatible with unlocked canadian I337M and can be safely flashed?
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im runnig i9505 on my i337m right now

ron31 said:
im runnig i9505 on my i337m right now
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first thx a lot.
but I'm on MK6 (4.3) right now, would there be any issue with Knox?

guerouig said:
first thx a lot.
but I'm on MK6 (4.3) right now, would there be any issue with Knox?
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The leak won't work for you because it's a full ODIN package. It's signed for I337 and not the I337M, and is not in a flashable zip form. Even if you could use it, you'd have a locked bootloader afterwards and never have recovery again. You'll have to use some other 4.4.2 ROM, maybe check the i9505 development section for a recovery flashable one.

DeadlySin9 said:
The leak won't work for you because it's a full ODIN package. It's signed for I337 and not the I337M, and is not in a flashable zip form. Even if you could use it, you'd have a locked bootloader afterwards and never have recovery again. You'll have to use some other 4.4.2 ROM, maybe check the i9505 development section for a recovery flashable one.
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there are defenatly lots of roms to choose from here

DeadlySin9 said:
The leak won't work for you because it's a full ODIN package. It's signed for I337 and not the I337M, and is not in a flashable zip form. Even if you could use it, you'd have a locked bootloader afterwards and never have recovery again. You'll have to use some other 4.4.2 ROM, maybe check the i9505 development section for a recovery flashable one.
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Thx so much. It's clearer now for me; it is indeed a tar file signed for I337 I was wrongly thinking that since I337M and I337 both share the same hardware rom compatibility might be possible, but I guess the AT&T factor plays the game otherwise. I'll check what's cooking in i9505 thread.
So, If I understand you correctly, an i9505 flashable zip, like wamalite for example, would work for i337m, is that so?

guerouig said:
Thx so much. It's clearer now for me; it is indeed a tar file signed for I337 I was wrongly thinking that since I337M and I337 both share the same hardware rom compatibility might be possible, but I guess the AT&T factor plays the game otherwise. I'll check what's cooking in i9505 thread.
So, If I understand you correctly, an i9505 flashable zip, like wamalite for example, would work for i337m, is that so?
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Yes. Any ROM in a flashable zip for any variant of the S4 except the i9500 (exynos model) will work on your device. I9505 are the easiest to get working, some other variant ROMs may need tweaking to work well. There's a thread about running other carrier ROMs in the general section.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Hyperdrive

DeadlySin9 said:
Yes. Any ROM in a flashable zip for any variant of the S4 except the i9500 (exynos model) will work on your device. I9505 are the easiest to get working, some other variant ROMs may need tweaking to work well. There's a thread about running other carrier ROMs in the general section.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Hyperdrive
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last, would there be any knox issues if I flashed I9505 roms or do I have to simply remove knox? I also read that someone who flashed I9505 rom onto his I337m tulred his device to I9505 as well; is that "normal"

guerouig said:
last, would there be any knox issues if I flashed I9505 roms or do I have to simply remove knox? I also read that someone who flashed I9505 rom onto his I337m tulred his device to I9505 as well; is that "normal"
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I don't know much about how knox affects custom recovery or if you can flash without tripping it. I know for sure it won't stop anything but would just simply void warranty. If you flash an I9505 ROM then because of the build.prop it will tell you it's an I9505, but it's still an I337M, you can't like use the i9505 ODIN files or anything just because you have an i9505 rom.

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I don't know much about how knox affects custom recovery or if you can flash without tripping it. I know for sure it won't stop anything but would just simply void warranty. If you flash an I9505 ROM then because of the build.prop it will tell you it's an I9505, but it's still an I337M, you can't like use the i9505 ODIN files or anything just because you have an i9505 rom.
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you've been extremely helpfull, thx a lot bro.

I've been trying to get either carbon Kitkat or aosb 1.2.7 on my i337, but when I try to flash the rom in twrp 2.6.3.1 it keeps giving me an error saying that the rom is only for jflte, jfltexx, i9505, gt-i9505. I don't know how to remedy this problem, am I stuck out?